A Glee Christmas In May

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Well

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hello and welcome to Billy on
the Rocks eye mask, I'm Santa

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and I'm Mandy.
And this episode is on a very

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Glee Christmas which obviously
what better time.

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Talking about Christmas then may
indiscriminate Dayton May

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whenever this would never this
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uploaded.
All right.

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We got so very Glee Christmas.
This is the tenth episode of

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season 2.
It premiered on December 7th,

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2010 and was viewed by 11 out of
11 Point. 1 million people

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though, starting to go back up,
I'm going to consider this the

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Blaine effect side note.
This is the Episode before a

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deal whole like winter break
season.

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Pause sort of thing in between
like, in the middle of season,

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which reminded me how much I
fucking hated that when watching

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live.
So see the little summary,

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casing may need a little
refresher on on the episode

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itself.
The Glee Club celebrates

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Christmas will saying that
trees.

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And Gifts is not true.
The true meaning of Christmas,

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they prepare a plan to help out
With children and raise money.

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Well, the Christmas season
progresses, the Glee Club

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attempts to help Brittany forget
about Santa as she has truth.

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Faith, that he is real.
When the Glee Club brings her to

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sit on Santa's lap and asked for
a gift.

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She asked for R&D to walk again,
giving new directions and to the

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problem to solve to conduct a
devious plan to destroy new

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directions Christmas, while
Rachel tries to win back, her

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lost love with Finn meanwhile
curtain Blaine exist happily

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over indulgence.
This episode was written.

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Written by Ian Brennan and
directed by Alfonso, Gomez real.

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So it's Christmas who has the
Christmas spirit me.

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If someone would like you to buy
me with presents, I'll find the

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Christmas spirit.
Yeah, something something stuff.

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My stocking something something.
All right, fair enough.

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The Best Buy of these is way I
split those up with sort of kind

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of going going.
This is going I couldn't lie,

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this is what's going on a
deltan, which is, I think how

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I'm going to end up splitting, a
lot of things as I watch them

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moving forward, as gotta just
like a here, here are here like,

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to, like lines of, of store
lines here working exploited,

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actually.
I enjoy the Christmas episodes

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just because they're for the
most part fun.

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There they do, like every Glee
episode.

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I'd have have things that make
you go seriously.

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Yeah, Buffy and fun.
My my first know that I have

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here because I my notes, I just
wrote as I was worried, as I was

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watching, it was literally a
whole rant on Emma, which I feel

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like is a slight deviation from
my normal characterization of

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ranting on to actually don't
have a rant on shoo.

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This episode.
Wow.

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And I'm sorry, not at school.
I know different.

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It's different.
I felt I didn't want anyone to

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like you know pigeonhole myself.
But yeah, I felt well acts like

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he always acts in this episode.
Not nothing.

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Just I mean just buffoonish and
annoying but I'm like well

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that's just him so but what was
frustrating to me was it soon as

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we are opening with the episode,
you have Emma Cohen.

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Trying to convince well to come
to her Christmas party.

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You know, and just kind of
really wanting to be to be close

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and good friends with him and
despite the fact that she's now

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married.
And I just kind of wanted to

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just sit there and shake her a
little bit.

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Partly one going, you don't need
him as a friend but also it's

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clear that he can't handle and
or deal with this and you

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pushing it is not a good thing
and in fact, you should just

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kind of let that go but I think
they, right Emma as such an

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idiot.
And so childlike Like she is

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not, doesn't even really make
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And I kind of I was comparing
that to Brittany.

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As far as just like you have
this stick of her being like a

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little dumb and a little Dixie
and I feel Emma is that way but

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more like on an innocent not
necessarily dumb but more just

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like very innocent and you've
played on it so much that you've

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made this character on but you
know, unviable as a person

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because people aren't Like this,
and it's infuriating.

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And just, I like Emma and
Theory, but like just the

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opening of the episode with that
frustrated, me and I ended up

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just kind of renting.
So I just like how they lean in

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on a stick so hard that you that
you destroy a characterization

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and make it not a character and
in.

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And in today's episode that that
red was focused on us.

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Yeah, I mean, I think especially
for this episode, it was a

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little bit of a caricature.
Sure of herself which Glee did

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well sometimes because Sue is
also a curvature in this episode

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but it's funny.
Am I?

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It's just sad well freely you
agree with.

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It was Emma.
It is that and it is that in I

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think other episodes where it's
almost like we need.

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We don't know how to get her to
do X because we've written her

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characters so much to do, why?
So it's like it doesn't, it

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doesn't Mark and with the way
they've Runner it is it is just

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kind of sad and pathetic in a
way.

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And yeah I hate using those
words as just a friend because I

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want to like her but you guys
aren't helping you with your

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writing.
Yeah, I think it's gonna make

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you say.
Oh yeah, I think that they were

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trying to show Emma as wanting
to like maintain a friendship

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even after actually I would have
loved if Lee had done, that one

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successfully.
I had people like interested

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romantically it didn't work for
really valid reasons, they just

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left it alone and became
friends.

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Eventually that would have been
like Monumental for this show.

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Yeah, the only time we actually
did that well is when they

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actually just forgot two
characters used to date, The

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same thing they did there was
Kurt Mercedes but he'll yeah,

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any wedding circumstances there.
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It would be interesting if it
was both romantically attracted

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didn't work and then, yeah.
Just became friends wonder if

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they forgot Tina and Artie dated
and that's why I actually think

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that sometimes when they did
that, well, it's just because

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they couldn't bother remembering
what their minor characters

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used.
You do.

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Yeah.
They needed to have, you know,

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that that board that they were
explaining, like here's the new

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directions.
Like romantic relationships are

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like the relationship.
Entanglement board yesterday

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needed.
That Gators room they needed in

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the writers.
Here are the lines, their

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friendship.
You're the lines to the dating

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here.
People that have hooked up

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together.
Here's who cheated on who with

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who with other people.
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Just to make their relationships
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Flashed out because it's
interesting when two characters

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used to date and now they're
just friends and how that

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Dynamic changes and how that
Dynamic even works.

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And in many cases, it feels like
for many characters when they

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used to date and they're no
longer dating, they just don't

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have them interact because I was
thinking I'm thinking of like

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Quinn.
Yeah, with Finn I don't think

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she really interacts with him
outside of when they were gay.

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Dating for like breaking up.
Well, like just casually don't

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think they really interacted the
friends?

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I mean, yeah, I heard the
interacted when they were

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dating.
There's that guess it's kind of

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hard to interact outside of it,
too.

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It's hard to have two
characters.

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Talk to each other when they
have the same classes in the

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same activities and then the
same plea Club, they just have,

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you know, nothing in common.
No Common Ground there.

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No Common Ground.
They don't have the same

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friends.
Okay, I don't want to derail

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this, but I am going to lie
about do fit in Quinn, had way

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more in common than Rachel and
Finn this oh yes.

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So it's clearly they would have
had like way more to talk about.

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I'm like way more actually going
do.

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But you know actually do we see
Rachel and Finn like having

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conversations of.
Here's what we do outside of the

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club and high school.
I don't I don't think so.

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The only girl that you are When
they're expressly showing you

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that they don't have much in
common, like the pig.

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Gift thing keeps coming into my
mind like that, they don't

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understand another supposed to
be the comedic value.

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Like look, look how much he
doesn't know her because I'm he

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is because he doesn't
understand.

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It's like that.
That's not, that's not good,

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notice.
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Well, it's been a fun job down
in down, talking about their

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they lack of character is a
characterization.

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Lack of flushing characters out.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what

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really set me off with this
episode because, I mean, like I

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said, the most part, I like all
the cousins episodes and I like

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this one.
It's just that literally just

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sent me off.
So I do think it's funny that

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you mentioned earlier.
Mandy that stick not working

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versus istic working.
You said, you know Sue in this

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episode is funny, but in the for
Emma she's kind of pathetic I

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got.
My other rants is is And so a

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really are you trapped?
Yeah, I can sue.

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I'm not just talking with it.
But okay.

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So pulling my rants up because I
literally wrote it out for me.

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Hercule accusation felt way off.
Well, I mean yeah, like

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referring to the caricature in
this episode is definitely

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saying that this is not, you
know, this is not

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characterization.
I'm going to hold accountable

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for other episodes because it I
guess it was more.

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I was assuming.
You were saying this is this is

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her playing into her
characterization as opposed to

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you saying.
It's just she's they've taken an

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aspect of it and blown out of
proportion as well.

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Yeah.
And I think that's that's

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something that I can forgive a
show doing four episodes that I

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understand the motivation for it
on like a Christmas episode is

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going to be like a little bit
set outside the norm because

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they're trying to do something.
Like specific with it.

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Mmm.
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That makes me, I guess more
forgiving of some

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characterization.
But only when I see how it

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relates to the actual thing.
Like, so being a grinch

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literally was, you know, who
being a grange am a trying to

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force things with Will did not
contribute to that at all?

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Yeah, especially because she has
been very clear in a previous

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episode that like that made,
Carl uncomfortable and she

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understood that it make Carl
uncomfortable, and it hasn't

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been that much time as far as we
know between that for like their

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marriage to settle and for her,
and Will's relationship to

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change enough to make it a
little less weird if she's like,

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come over to our house and have
a Christmas party.

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And let's all get drunk.
And surely, nothing weird will

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happen.
There are all these are minor

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and Mama, he's good deal.
Don't do it all.

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I could do just relax help.
You can probably get free dental

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care.
And that you're a teacher.

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Am I let's not turn your nose up
at that.

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Yeah I know right now the we
have no The Ransom might my ran

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onto is just essentially like I
felt her characterization is way

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off and I just kept getting
frustrated with her storyline of

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her stealing presents from like
homeless children visiting film

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like that that's not too that's
not what she would do.

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Because she's mean but she's not
mean to people that are like

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super that are already.
I like down and out, and have

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their own problems.
Because you've seen her with

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Kurt, and we've seen her like
with her sister.

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And I feel like I could heard
rigging the, the, the Secret

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Santa so that everybody has to
give her presents 100 percent of

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to thing and her saying this
presents are now all mine, I'm

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now going to take them also
could totally see her doing it

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when they're like we're going to
give these students to children

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that don't have much.
And she's like no I'm taking

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them that's when I was like,
okay but that's not, that's not

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her.
It's like not what she would do

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and that made me frustrated.
I do I do appreciate her dress

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up as the crunch with Becky as
Max.

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I found that hilarious.
I mean I was like well that's

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just ridiculous that she would
like literally put just put all

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that makeup on her to go steal
the presents but I appreciate

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it.
I was amazed as hell for that.

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It does seem to feed the episode
more than it feeds character.

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Bill it does and I mean I get
Manny your point if I said

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something like this is an
illness an episode out of time.

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Yes, really.
This is more for.

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I just got her audience being
able to enjoy as well.

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I'm assuming, right?
I assume the Christmas episodes

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are not things that I mean like
they don't move anything along.

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They're strictly.
Like, how can we shoehorn in

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Christmas references and
Christmas songs?

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The only thing that happened
actually not did anything happen

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in this episode, that movie,
Sorry line.

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Permanently long.
You know well what recite okay.

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I realized that they didn't sing
together.

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That's still not like no I will.
I will argue and I was at that

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they did 100% move some of Kurt
and Blaine's characterization.

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I don't know, I mean, I'm only
outside of just being able just

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having a duet.
So I will say yes I feel Kurt

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comment about saying when You
asked, is that someone special,

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who does know, we're just
friends, but I was like, I want

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him to be a number of things.
At least, gay is movement of

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saying of actually saying, hey,
Kurt actually has a crush on

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this man.
It's minor Movement.

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Like, if you cook this episode
out of the Kurt and Blaine

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story, it wouldn't affect you
understanding their story, which

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is kind of my definition for
like, does it, you know, does it

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do anything permanent like you
could, you could take away, Kurt

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saying that because he's going
to say it again.

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Multiple other times in other
episodes.

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Yeah but not now don't love it.
That's just my argument for like

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why why Sue didn't bother me
that much and then it didn't

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yeah I mean the impermanence of
this episode is also in like all

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of a sudden already can walk and
then hit happen.

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And then the exact never this
like thousand dollar piece of

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equipment is never used again.
Yeah, and they do actually

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mention it.
It in another episode they do,

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but they mentioned it in such
like a bullshit way of like, oh,

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it broke the next day like okay,
come on with Tiny.

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Tim like, what the fuck?
Well, that was that was in the

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last rant.
I had this on Artie.

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I think you should.
Yes, Should get all of our like

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Brittany already rants out of
the way because I want to save

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the joy, Baby, it's cold
outside.

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I can do, I can do that.
All right, so maybe I'll just

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take a moment and discuss Artie.
Yes.

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Okay, so like I get that brings
is one of the hell party, but I

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also feel sad story line was Joe
clumsily.

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There was just I feel they are,
there was intention and then

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there's execution and I feel
like the intention here is is to

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to show something like happy and
like sort of makes everybody

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like warm and fuzzy on the
inside but you didn't really do

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that.
I kind of appreciated the way

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they handled Brittany still
believing in Santa because I

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feel like that could have easily
been played for like mean laughs

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and it's sort of like
disillusion in her it is another

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nail and the why won't you Heard
actually be like a full-grown

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person.
But at the same time I'm like,

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okay, well at least we're
leaning in on she believes in

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Santa so but allow her to keep
that which I thought was nice

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but the way they want her the
way the way they basically go.

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If he's she's going to ask santa
to have already walk and was so

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therefore we're going to put
this whole storyline together

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when she loses some faith and
she gets it back in.

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A band already gets to walk.
It's like I don't.

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Yes, I get I get where you think
that that sounds heartwarming

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but I don't want to do for those
who are differently abled.

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So I'm not trying to assume but
based off of my understanding of

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a lot of the arguments that I've
seen, as far as how, you know,

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differently abled bodies are
depicted in media is stop trying

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to put a focus on having us
being Go to do certain things

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that able bodies do like we can
do a lot of other shit and we

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can also fully, you know, able
to do stuff it.

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Everything doesn't revolve
around being able to save them.

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That's not, they don't
necessarily need saving and

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that's what I felt that this was
it was like Brittany saying hey

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you need to be able to walk so
I'm going to do that and even

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though that was done for me
positive you know place It was

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not handled.
Well in my opinion.

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Does this all make sense?
Yes.

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Yeah I disagree that.
I like the Britney thing because

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it for me, Brittany still
believing in.

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Santa is such like it points so
much towards her being dumb.

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I can't think of a print the
moment but like it her naivete

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about things was like such So
highlighted here in that she's a

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grown while just not grown,
she's a teenager but she's at

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least 16 or 17, still believing
in Santa and yet she's out.

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She's also doing adult things
like having sex with other

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people and operating in the
world but she believes in Santa

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and everyone around her is
totally behind this.

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Like let's let's keep lying to
this girl who's supposed to be

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our friend and just letting her
live a lie.

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Yeah, I mean, it's so weird.
Like, the older.

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I get the matter.
I did about it like that tell

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these fucking people, the truth.
Jesus stop lying to them.

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For no reason, it's
uncomfortable.

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And I don't think I've ever
found it.

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This uncomfortable like watching
individual episodes in the past.

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Yeah never stood out to me how
consistently they swap between

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Arias, how inconsistently they
swap between her being sexual

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and like mature.
In that sense and having them,

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the child.
Yeah, like a party story.

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Life is not cute to me because
I'm like, you are having sex

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with her but also acknowledge
that she's not even at the level

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of knowing senses.
No, I totally agree with you

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guys on that which is probably
why I say like, there's the it's

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a nail.
It's another nail in the coffin

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of.
Why won't you let her be a

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person because you're so focused
on making her.

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A bimbo that it's like you were
gone too far.

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I just like that it wasn't
played for me laughs and it was

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almost done as like.
All right.

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We're going to be supportive of
some sort.

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I disagree.
I agree with you guys.

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I like, we probably should
actually not that's not the

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right support of you should be
but I think it was sweet.

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I mean, I would think it would
be great if she weren't also

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having sex with him like Fair,
Were like it's Britney isn't

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mature enough to understand.
Santa isn't real and yet we have

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jokes about her being like
drugged and having is it wasn't

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that the reference in an
earlier?

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Episode drug do this?
Yeah, I'm like, like the alien

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crawl into our tent.
Yeah.

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This should not be like a thing
that is used for humor if you

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know, but it would be if we if
not That if we could actually

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have maintained any consistency
with it, I think the thing, I

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think the thing there is, it's
the dichotomy of you're making

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her childlike while also giving
her not childlike activities.

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So it is very upsetting for some
people to go.

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Wow, I'm seeing this person as a
child, but you guys are not

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treating her like which is good
cycle.

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What?
Yeah, I don't know that's living

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lot like and even going so far
as everyone goes to sit on

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Santa's lap and ask for things
and nobody's just like break

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into her house about break-in.
But you know, they even her

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parents or behind it.
Like yeah.

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She still believes in Santa
because we're not good parents.

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Yeah.
Cause you can still be like a

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kind sweet person and understand
that Santa is a myth.

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They aren't Julie exclusive.
And if that would even make for,

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like, a better story line to me,
if Britney was like, I want to

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like aspire to be what Santa is.
And she was just a really

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positive person who wanted to
give people gifts.

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Yeah.
Yeah, yeah yeah.

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I mean we just cold hearted
people, maybe.

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So we're I know you have
I agree with you guys on all

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time you come how she how
carrots?

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Like it's you terrible parents.
We could have said something

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that being especially because
people are like mixing yeah.

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Like we just saw her believe in
a magic comb to.

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Yeah.
They leaned in really hard on

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the naive.
Brittany this season.

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Yeah.
It just like I feel like she's

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not necessarily as naive as she
is just dumb.

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Well, I thought the wait to see
Because I remember feeling quite

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as naive as she does here,
because this is very innocent

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dumb, but innocent.
I feel like in other Seasons,

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it's just dumb, but we'll wait.
I'll wait to see what it's like

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police admit.
You know, some of her

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non-sequiturs that she says, and
I can actually think of one

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right now, but her little like a
sides where she says random

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things were.
She gets words wrong or like

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that that's one level of her.
And then there's Believing in

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Magic homes and Santa Claus.
And there's just like a wide gap

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between what's funny?
And what's kind of sad?

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Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think, I
think we all know people that

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are at heart, very, they aren't
this Innocent but have a have

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that sort of sweet spirit and
wanting, to think the think

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positively on everybody and
everything.

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And and have that sort of thing
that's around somewhere, it's

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like I'm going to I was it was
Disney but like the best parts

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of Disney not like the the
working people to the Bone and

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make money off of them Disney.
But like the the magic of Disney

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as a person and as a
personality, very still like

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cool.
I understand there are dark

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sides to people and Society but
I'm just going to try to always

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be some a positive and think
hopeful happy things and be in

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be continually, you know,
inspired and and pleased when

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happy things.
Ben parents, we all know people

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like that.
But they're also like full

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people and don't necessarily
believe in magical comes, you

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know, and I don't know if it's
because we can't write that.

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We're just going to go so far
over the edge or it's like,

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okay, would they really does
what they always do?

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Which is, let's, we've made a
personality type for bringing,

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which is dumb, kind of blonde
bimbo, but we're going to lean

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so hard on to certain It's of
that where it's literally pushed

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off a cliff Rose.
Like you've linked so hard in

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that one particular aspect of
her being naive that you've

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literally forgot every other
part of his characterization and

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so now it's just the stereotype
of a certain thing a certain

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emotion or personality traits.
It's I think Bernie is one of

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the what best ones to get to
Showcase how poorly they do

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characterization.
Yeah I agree with that.

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Pretty pretty bad.
And this doesn't even kind of go

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into again, as we're just
talking, the whole, the whole,

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you know, nature of what you
asked for, which is, I know

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you're totally.
I thought that was definitely

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agree with showing art, like,
Artis cannot be defined by

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whether or not he walks and is
it right for a group of able

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bodied writers to like the best
gift, he could receive this toe.

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I walk like it honestly it would
have been a really good moment

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if they had spun that and had
Brittany really want that?

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And then had an episode where
already was like, here's why

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it's okay.
Yeah.

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It's like here's the other
perspective of that and made

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that his hairline.
Yeah I grabbed it.

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Well, I would have loved that.
It was already say, I don't like

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I don't need to walk.
I need other spaces to be more

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Open to how I get around because
I can get around.

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Homeboy, doesn't like dances in
his right?

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Yes.
On the stage like he's more than

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just people that walk.
I think I would have been a

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really interesting story line if
they.

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So really wanted to go into
already walk.

451
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,700
I would have liked to have
actually seen him say he wants

452
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,500
To otherwise I'm like and even
then, I'm still going to get

453
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,100
tired.
You know, writing staff of

454
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,500
able-bodied people, having a,
having a somebody who's

455
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,600
differently-abled talking about
how badly they want to be able

456
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,800
to walk.
I still question that, but

457
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400
actually, because Kevin McHale
can walk.

458
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,500
Yeah.
You know, like later on Ali

459
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,600
stroker will be in the what was
that the Glee?

460
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Oh my God, this is even called.
Old, I guess the Glee project.

461
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:23,300
Well.
Yeah.

462
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:26,500
And because I she's on my mind
because I just saw Oklahoma and

463
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:31,500
she was fantastic and show.
It doesn't doesn't reference her

464
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,300
being in a wheelchair.
It just makes light

465
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:35,600
accommodations for her to be
able to perform like everybody

466
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,600
else.
Yeah.

467
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,200
And it just yeah because later
on she'll have a guest

468
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600
appearance on the show.
As someone who is in a

469
00:29:42,608 --> 00:29:47,200
wheelchair.
It highlights the problem of

470
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,400
Kevin McHale being Artie.
But you know, it's far too late.

471
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,000
I don't think they would do it
today.

472
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:55,500
If they're reading today.
No.

473
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:56,800
Agreed.
Yeah, I don't think Kevin would

474
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,800
take the role to thank you said
that before.

475
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,800
Yeah and I get that.
But yeah.

476
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,100
So having his r&d's girlfriends
biggest wish being that he could

477
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:13,000
walk and that her she's not.
She's not all there.

478
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,700
It's just it.
Yeah it's got a weird.

479
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,000
It's got a weird tone and I feel
like I don't have the vocabulary

480
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:25,000
to really Get out of it properly
but ya know and it also is it's

481
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,700
also another one of those.
But then at the end of the day,

482
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,700
like the only one to do anything
with it.

483
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:32,700
Yeah.
No, that's not it.

484
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:37,700
It's not like you know okay
already got it be walk which is

485
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,300
a couple thousand dollars and
can walk.

486
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:44,500
And now that's going to be a
storyline where he you get to

487
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:46,200
explore.
What?

488
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,200
That's like for somebody that
differently abled On how you

489
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:55,900
figure out to maneuver in a
world that's built, literally

490
00:30:55,900 --> 00:31:01,000
for just like your body people
and okay that is a very nuanced

491
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,300
conversation that I do not hate
truck.

492
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:07,100
These Riders to be able to
handle but that is an idea but

493
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,400
it was really just like we're
going to have already walk

494
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,300
because that's going to make
everybody part.

495
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:17,700
Happy to see somebody who's
differently-abled finally get to

496
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,600
walk because that's What people
should really want to be able to

497
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,100
do and I'm like, that's
literally what you're writing is

498
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:27,200
for.
And I just I just have to admit,

499
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,700
I have some issues with that and
I think you could have like,

500
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,700
it's a sweet sentiment.
That was not handled at all, of

501
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:38,000
thinking of other groups of
people.

502
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:44,500
Oh yeah, it makes me on my life.
I like having her really want

503
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:48,800
that and are giving already the
ability to them talk.

504
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:52,000
About, you know, why he doesn't
need it.

505
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,100
I think that would have been a
very interesting then that would

506
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:58,800
have been a fabulous way to
like, totally, you know, go,

507
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:01,400
hey, I don't need this.
It's okay.

508
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:15,600
Here's why.
And what a shame, that's the

509
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:22,500
last we'll ever have with a Glee
Christmas episode Yeah, how dare

510
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,000
you?
I'm going to also throw in one

511
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,300
last great.
Before we before we shift adult

512
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:34,100
them, Rachel in this episode.
I just have a note here that

513
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,700
says Rachel.
If you were a dude, this would

514
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,200
be this would be harassment and
Ami to situation.

515
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,400
Yeah, I need to stop trying to
make fetch happen and I do, I do

516
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,000
feel Maybe not.
Maybe not quite Tammy hashtag me

517
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
too.
I was just frustrated watching

518
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:58,000
her because I want to help them
but if it were, yeah, if it were

519
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,100
a dude, pursuing a female
character, the way that she is

520
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,400
going after Finn and like
getting him to meet her places

521
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,300
alone when he did clearly
doesn't want to and touching him

522
00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:11,800
a romantic.
Yeah.

523
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:16,800
When he doesn't seem to want to
like it and then being upset and

524
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,700
vindictive when he's not, Yes,
that would be yeah considered

525
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:23,400
harassment wouldn't win that
characters.

526
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,300
Mad at you because you cheated
on me.

527
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:30,700
Like I am like no.
This this is I need you to.

528
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:32,700
I need you to basically
everything you're doing this

529
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,700
episode.
I need you to not need you to

530
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:40,200
understand how this comes across
and then also I realized.

531
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Yeah, like the other characters,
don't look at her and go.

532
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,300
Hey, could you chill for like
get the man some breathing room?

533
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:51,000
Yeah.
He's not into you right now.

534
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,700
Let it go.
You said I'm Just Not That Into

535
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,700
You.
He's Just Not That Into You.

536
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,300
Someone didn't watch that
clearly not.

537
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,800
Yeah.
It it ain't heard me and I felt

538
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,100
bad for Finn and then in the end
of the episode came and they

539
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:13,800
have been making like like
Rachel and I'm just like, of

540
00:34:13,808 --> 00:34:18,400
course, they're the couple that
Glee wants to make happen

541
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,199
whether or not It feels right
but they're not anyone else only

542
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,000
Factor but her not Eddie.
You know, I understand there are

543
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,900
plenty of finchel shippers out
there that's that's on you guys.

544
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:57,500
I just
And she kind of hinted that a

545
00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:00,300
couple times where she's like if
you're not gonna help me, I'm

546
00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:04,000
going to do it alone.
So then when when she fawns over

547
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,800
Finn in a way that affects her
capabilities as like a strong

548
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,500
independent woman who wants to
be a Broadway star and will do

549
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:15,600
anything to get it, it just
feels like Rachel, what do you

550
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:19,200
Don't go to pursue your dreams.
God damn it.

551
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Stop fawning over this do just
go.

552
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,300
They think it to Philip ate the
home.

553
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:30,000
Rachel as the strong woman who's
like, this is my dream.

554
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,500
This is my goal and nothing will
stop me and the insecure

555
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:40,500
teenager girl who needs to have
a the most popular boy.

556
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:44,000
That's a boyfriend and
validation from him.

557
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,300
Yeah.
And I can in some cases, I guess

558
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,800
I can understand why there might
be some of that at the

559
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,000
beginning.
Because we took the teenage girl

560
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,800
and Society tells her that she
needs to have a boy to approve

561
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,500
of what she wants to do.
I also feel strongly that the

562
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,700
way they talked about her
parents would have instilled a

563
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,100
sense of you.
You like, you are, you are whole

564
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:10,200
and good.
You can do everything on your

565
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,700
own because you're perfect.
Yeah, I would.

566
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,900
I do feel like there is a lot of
fun.

567
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,600
With that because I agree with
you that ultimately I see her as

568
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,500
somebody that's like I'm going
to do this.

569
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:28,100
I'm going to be a star and
without you nothing about me and

570
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,200
nothing will stop me.
And then so yeah when she is

571
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,000
more of the insecure, teenage
girl, I'm just like well that's

572
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,800
a choice that I was not
expecting.

573
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,500
That's one way to do it.
I guess.

574
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,600
So, any other thoughts?
Feelings we have on the Kelly.

575
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000
I thought it was funny that
Katie when he sings for Sue like

576
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,600
that I will say I did I get I
have a note here that says kudos

577
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:06,300
for a non traditional Santa
question mark, I'll give you

578
00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:09,100
some points for literally.
You didn't need to have a

579
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,700
traditional Santa but you did.
Oh yeah.

580
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,300
Are we come back to the rest?
The songs do you want to talk

581
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:19,700
about clean and then come back
to the rest of the songs or just

582
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:21,800
talk about the songs and then
still end the clean.

583
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,100
Oh if we talk about the rest of
the songs, now that's kind of

584
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,300
like wrapping up the whole
McKinley section.

585
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,100
Yeah, he want to do that because
I I kind of hate these songs and

586
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:37,500
I am he who will listen to
Christmas songs around Christmas

587
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,700
if not, I mean, Baby, It's Cold
Outside.

588
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:42,800
Ellison do whenever and I'll
fight you on this but the rest

589
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,000
of these songs are like they're
boring.

590
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:50,000
Ying and there are better
fucking Christmas songs out

591
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,700
there than Island of Misfit
Toys.

592
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:55,600
And we need a little Christmas
last Christmas is kind of fun.

593
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,600
I guess, even though again, it's
a little weird that she's

594
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,300
talking him through a Christmas
tree patch.

595
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:03,400
Yeah.
And mean, when we spoke with

596
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,500
otherwise that that's a scary
movie.

597
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:09,200
It is, it really is I was
expecting or come out with an ax

598
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,400
but like the other songs that
the Glee Club sayings like no

599
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
wonder, no one is giving you any
money to help these kids.

600
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,800
Could you sing some better
Christmas songs?

601
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,000
Please, and that's all we're all
very forgettable to me.

602
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,500
Yeah.
And I know, you know, they have

603
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,800
34 more Christmas episodes when
they do sing more classic and

604
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,100
better Christmas songs but like
there's a reason.

605
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,600
Some of these songs are Classics
and some of the songs you've

606
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200
never heard in your life.
I'm not a reason.

607
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,700
When the radio station playing
non-stop Christmas music, they

608
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,800
don't even play some of these
songs, but yeah.

609
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:51,600
Only well and, you know, talking
about on how to phrase this as a

610
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,300
spoiler, but like, you know,
talking about Glee in current

611
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:57,700
pop culture, Baby.
It's Cold Outside.

612
00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:00,500
It's still one of the Glee
covers that I will hear around

613
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,300
Christmas.
I hear that at least one hungry

614
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:04,200
Christmas.
Yeah.

615
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,800
Which I think is great.
It's nice.

616
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,400
That there are things that kind
of stick around and pop culture.

617
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:14,800
When right now, I think it's so
very disposable that like I will

618
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,500
miss entire genre.
Of music because I didn't listen

619
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:20,400
to the radio for three months
and you know and then you come

620
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,100
out of it and you're like wait
that was the thing that just

621
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,800
entirely happens.
Yeah like wait.

622
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,600
This is a whole thing that
people were in love with and I

623
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,300
never heard of it.
I'm not that old well I'm not

624
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:34,500
that old anyway.
So these other songs felt

625
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,700
forgettable and they felt like
they could have done better.

626
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,300
I agree.
Dalton

627
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:55,300
The point of this entire episode
comes down to these what four

628
00:39:55,300 --> 00:40:00,700
minutes of episode out of 22.
I forgot how little I know.

629
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
I thought I kept waiting for us
to go back and we didn't and I

630
00:40:04,008 --> 00:40:06,600
was like, wait, what?
But you know what?

631
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,900
It's so good.
We didn't need to go back those

632
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:11,100
four minutes.
I'm not saying they were down

633
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,400
because it's never enough claim.
But like, hmm.

634
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:18,200
Sometimes you just Need to stop
and be grateful that Glee did a

635
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,200
good thing.
And then stocks after the nice

636
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,000
thing.
Yeah, yeah.

637
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,100
Before they ruin it before, they
were like, this was a good

638
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:30,900
thing.
It was, it's so charming and

639
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:37,400
it's so warmly shot.
And it's so flirty, and weirdly

640
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000
sexy, which is odd for like to
high school dudes.

641
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,900
We know they're grown-ass adults
in real life but they're

642
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:45,900
playing.
Hi.

643
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:51,100
Yeah, it's so like out of time
in this point set of filled

644
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:56,300
library that nobody else is in,
he's got like a boom box that he

645
00:40:56,300 --> 00:40:59,300
brings in.
There's a reason that good blank

646
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:02,800
blank travel this way.
Just travels with a Boombox and

647
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,700
a tape player like, and and you
buy it and you're like, yes,

648
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:12,000
that's exactly how this kid
rolls, and the sounds is that,

649
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,600
right?
It's so they sound so good

650
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,400
again.
Picked a song that worked for

651
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,500
them.
I'm not going to get into an

652
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,900
argument about whether or not
baby.

653
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,600
It's cold outside.
There's a creepy song Because I

654
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,500
had to discourse.
I just don't care about unless

655
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:33,100
you guys not really.
I just want to enjoy the song

656
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,600
for Glee icing just lightly have
right?

657
00:41:37,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Can I say one thing growing up?
The tone of she doesn't want to

658
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,500
go.
Exactly.

659
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,800
And even though there are some
lines that are clearly of the

660
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,400
time that that is the joke at
that point, like, is there

661
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,600
something in this drink?
Like, that's not a line that's

662
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,200
funny.
Now But I always took that more

663
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,200
as alcohol, then like, you know,
it worse than that, and I'm

664
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,300
pretty sure it's not one.
Like, let's just talk about, you

665
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,000
know, date rape drugs in it, and
it was the song anyway.

666
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000
So we're obviously girl taking
that too far anyway.

667
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,800
But the point is, she doesn't
want to go.

668
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,200
And that's, I think when people
get really angry at the song,

669
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,400
You're missing that underlying
point.

670
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,400
And while some of the line,
maybe much for Or our current

671
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:51,400
thoughts and feelings on this
because we're battling with a

672
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,200
lot of issues and patriarchal
society and making women do

673
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,500
things that I want to do.
Yeah, didn't want to go, but

674
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:02,000
it's also missing the cultural
context that at the time, she

675
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:08,300
couldn't say let's bone because
of patriarchal requirements.

676
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,300
Exactly.
So she was saying, oh I got to

677
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,100
go even though I want to say
think of you and he's like here

678
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:18,400
A Reason.
Yeah, so if you are if you're

679
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,300
looking for this and he's like
this, so it's terrible.

680
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:24,600
I'm like I thought that all
growing up, but I think part of

681
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,200
it was just because I was
looking at literally the words

682
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,700
and not actually what was trying
to be sad, if you think, well,

683
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:35,900
that's fine, I'll listen to it
for you.

684
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,000
The only thing cautious of with
that song are men.

685
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Who defend the lyrics.
A little too passionate that's,

686
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:49,800
that's true.
If they're taking it that being

687
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:55,300
said the hurt playing this.
Oh no, I've got to go.

688
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,600
And literally Blaine just like,
hop scooting across the back of

689
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:04,400
the couch and have the like a
durable as hell and you about

690
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,700
tell me otherwise the
choreography in.

691
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:09,600
This performance is just so
fantastic.

692
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:15,200
It's so casual but intimate and
I don't know how many times they

693
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,300
were hers but Like little
movements, each of them do that

694
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:23,700
are very specific to their
characters, but that also goes,

695
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:25,600
did, you did the choreographer
go.

696
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,800
Okay.
I want you to do x, y, z, or

697
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,400
that moron.
After going.

698
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:36,600
Okay, I'm going to take this
movement where I go across the

699
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,300
room, and I'm going to do x y z,
because that's what Kirk, you

700
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
have all those questions, and
then I will have to ask them one

701
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,600
day.
Exactly.

702
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:47,900
Let's go.
Yeah.

703
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:52,600
That would be back.
That would be really fun that if

704
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,300
you're listening because I'm
sure you are.

705
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:05,600
Please explain, okay song?
She's just so sweet and

706
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,600
adorable.
You know we're talking about

707
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,700
forward momentum of the
characters in the plot line.

708
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:12,400
Like you do get the moment at
the end of the song.

709
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,600
Well, you get you get when Curt
says they'd never That the two

710
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,800
of us do this together, you see
Blaine clocking, what he

711
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,100
accidentally means.
And then at the end you

712
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,800
absolutely know that Blaine is
like, oh shit, I'm into this guy

713
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:34,400
and it's over.
See, I'm not entirely convinced

714
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,300
that Blaine gets it yet yet
mostly because of this.

715
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,200
In an episode coming up that
makes me think he probably

716
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:51,300
wouldn't have Have done if he
knew mmm that one saying that I

717
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,900
texted you both about to say
holy crap I forgot this was a

718
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:59,600
thing.
Yeah my memory.

719
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:03,600
I yeah yeah.
I mean yeah no spoilers because

720
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:07,300
yeah such a hilariously awful
scene that I can't wait to talk

721
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:10,400
about it.
Which I love is.

722
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,900
It's so like, it's yeah, the
second-hand embarrassment just

723
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,000
makes me cry a little bit but
no, I think that is a good body.

724
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:25,400
I hate.
Maybe it's not.

725
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,500
Maybe it's not Blaine who
noticed something, maybe it's

726
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:39,200
the actors.
Even though.

727
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,400
We want to show Kurt getting a,
an unrequited crush on his kind

728
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,000
of advisor.
The like his mentor?

729
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:18,800
Yeah.
Figure on his mentor and then

730
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,800
maybe Blaine as his mentor, you
know, kind of helps him navigate

731
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,800
through his, you know, his
emotions to go.

732
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,800
Okay.
No, that's not, that's not how I

733
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,500
see you.
And then, you know, you can kind

734
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:33,700
of any hole occurred eventually
move on and get a boyfriend.

735
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:38,000
So, this, I'm, this is what when
I look at, I do.

736
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:44,100
If this is flirty, is this Creek
and Darren are playing them.

737
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,900
Flirty is this the writers
going?

738
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:49,300
We want Kurt to have a crush on
Blaine, that's going to be

739
00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:51,400
unrequited flurry.
Or is this?

740
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:53,600
Oh God.
These two kids.

741
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,800
Whose two actors have?
I have chemistry and work.

742
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,200
Well, together.
We're going to just make this a

743
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,700
thing and it's just going to
we're going to build up this

744
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:03,500
curtain blowing storyline and
blames isn't going to be

745
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:07,300
playing.
This is going to be an idiot and

746
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:09,700
that's not real.
Because that's how I see once I

747
00:48:09,707 --> 00:48:15,400
was just like, I love her and
everybody else is like yeah, we

748
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,200
know you're in love with him and
he just has a completely

749
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,700
oblivious that made me basically
how I see all of them.

750
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:26,700
Maybe it's a little bit of all
of it Confluence like actor,

751
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:29,400
chemistry writers, realizing
actor.

752
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,500
Chemistry.
The needs of the plot, some

753
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:39,500
horny ad exec.
Someone's someone had some, you

754
00:48:39,508 --> 00:48:41,500
know, someone's cousin is a fan
of.

755
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
So and so and like, you know
what, you know what I need to

756
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,100
say, I need to see them.
I need to see them.

757
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:59,700
Yeah, Murphy was just Is this it
it watching it makes me because

758
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,200
this is clearly obvious for me
and in no way.

759
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Yeah, and they didn't need to go
that hard with with how they're

760
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,900
flirting with each other.
And I'm assuming I do believe

761
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,400
there are little touches and
little things that Chris and

762
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,100
Aaron did with their
characterizations of Kurt, and

763
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:21,900
Blaine and Kurt, and Blaine that
were unique to them.

764
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,700
Because I think there are, there
are times where you can

765
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:28,000
literally see.
See, Darren mouth, the word kiss

766
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,600
and he gets in a kiss on the
cheek and it's not in the

767
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,400
script, but it's like it's just
a cute little thing that they

768
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,400
like they did as sort of like,
oh, this is established.

769
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:43,500
We are what our relationship was
that firmly and I so I know they

770
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:47,100
do that but I didn't.
I don't know if they would have

771
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:52,200
so early, so I feel like, okay,
maybe there's a little bit more

772
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,700
of just the writers or the p.
The director go to people on

773
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:59,900
set.
Realizing this the way they the

774
00:49:59,900 --> 00:50:01,600
way they play off of each other
is really good.

775
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,200
We should just put keep pushing
it.

776
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,900
And then eventually, and I
simply I was saying you like

777
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:09,700
this is the episode where they
went cool graph.

778
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,500
Anybody else that we're going to
do for Kurt?

779
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:15,100
Apparently, this is what we do.
Wait I wish there was an easier

780
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:20,800
way to do that but like I don't
know, I don't know when that I

781
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,700
mean technically I guess
original song is when they go

782
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:30,600
cool Scott.
Yeah, I would think so.

783
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,000
The best songs in the series and
I'll fight people for that.

784
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,200
It really is one of their best
Duets because it's so it's it's

785
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,500
it's like where they are in
their relationship.

786
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:10,800
It fits the story, it fits the,
their voices, because a couple

787
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,800
of their songs.
You like this, especially in

788
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,500
later Seasons where things are
getting really rushed and like

789
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:22,400
slapdash half a size or even
candles, I love ya.

790
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:50,100
It's really hard to hate.
Is very excited about.

791
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,500
Bong her thoughts and feelings
and that she got very excited.

792
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:07,000
I mean Wesley was scratching
document earlier if only if only

793
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,600
everybody listening new, dalet,
the the frustration and levels

794
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:21,800
we go to innovate that also take
out animal if Revenge yeah that

795
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,800
was not any of us like discussed
or thought about when we Segment

796
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,200
do this.
How do we do this?

797
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,400
How do we shut them up?
We don't.

798
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:36,000
And there have been many, many,
a time where I feel like we've

799
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:43,100
been like well, animals is going
to animals, keep talking.

800
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:47,500
It doesn't matter or continually
pausing my eyes.

801
00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:50,300
I'm using myself as I can throw
a ball when I'm not talking.

802
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:56,900
So yeah, for those of you,
They're like, who are curious on

803
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,000
me.
How to back end this whole thing

804
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,900
work.
There's a little peek behind the

805
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:04,300
curtain.
It's a lot of yelling quietly at

806
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:07,600
our animals, and, and, and good
editing.

807
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:12,100
And like, and to make it seem
like we're not, occasionally,

808
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:15,600
like, knocking things off and
dropping microphones.

809
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:21,200
And sometimes I just assumed
everybody that podcasted just

810
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,200
like, did it straight through it
with a minimal editing and then

811
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:32,200
Lysing later like oh people
don't do that it's fake.

812
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,400
This is a random jaunt down that
that line jump back into how to

813
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,100
jump back into those them.
Some things on podcasts in a

814
00:53:40,107 --> 00:53:42,400
second, but I do want to make
sure we're done with talking

815
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,500
about salsa and do we have any?
I mean we're never done.

816
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,200
I realized after I said that I
think for this episode, we've

817
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,900
covered everything.
Yes, noted.

818
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:55,200
That's a good, that's a good
enough.

819
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,900
Yeah, because you know so little
happens it's just that stinging

820
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:05,200
and yeah that's weak.
All right.

821
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,900
I mean do I need to ask what our
favorite song was?

822
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:12,500
I feel like pretty
self-explanatory there.

823
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:17,400
Yeah.
Yeah I think it's also expand

824
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,300
the story that I hate the rest.
Not even they give you a choice

825
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:25,100
song.
I'm not going to have four.

826
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,100
Pray for I give me.
Give me a.

827
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,100
Give me your favorite song.
Other than this one, I'm like to

828
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:34,000
be that person.
I do have a fun fact that, in

829
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,800
the episode when Mike was
sitting on Santa's lap, he

830
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,500
wishes for Channing Tatum to
stop being his stuff.

831
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:43,900
Yes, that's my favorite line
fabulous.

832
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:47,900
Because perfume was in step up
to, with Channing Tatum and I

833
00:54:47,908 --> 00:54:50,800
find I just find that.
Are they now that I ruined

834
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,900
Emily's, favorite line this
evening but I manage Like the

835
00:54:55,900 --> 00:55:00,400
line where shoe is like you
don't hate Christmas and Sue's.

836
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,100
No, I just hate you.
Yeah.

837
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:04,200
It's a good one too.
Yeah, goodbye.

838
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,700
No shoot.
I think it's fair.

839
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,800
Same same to same.
So what do we what do we think

840
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,800
on the the already scale?
I mean he had a pretty prominent

841
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,000
like storyline.
Yeah, it was not a man of was

842
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,600
well screen time wise.
It was not a bad idea episode

843
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:29,300
that's like a four out of five.
Yeah.

844
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,500
Okay.
Four out of five because he

845
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:33,700
didn't get us.
He didn't get like his own song,

846
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:39,900
I mean, and I can see why maybe
the most be like, you know,

847
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:44,700
you're you're you're treating
your girlfriend like a child and

848
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:48,300
I'm kind of busy.
So we'll give you a fork because

849
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:55,100
you had, you had some time and
you had your character had plot.

850
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,800
Episode, which is apparently,
where are, you know, for our

851
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,300
lines are for like, what we're
looking for here and then

852
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:07,500
claimed X, Ms. Is, I mean it was
such minimal time but it was

853
00:56:07,508 --> 00:56:09,500
such good time.
Yeah.

854
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:15,000
Just like a 6 or a 7 out of 10.
I got six.

855
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:19,200
Yeah, I think quality over
quantity in this case.

856
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,200
Okay.
All right because there are

857
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,300
times we get a lot of them and
reliable that was worthless.

858
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,200
That's not the clean I asked
for.

859
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:33,300
Yeah oh God that was a refrain.
I ended up staying a lot of

860
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,100
compressed.
It gets bad.

861
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,700
You guys gets back.
Sorry boiler.

862
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:42,500
Sorry.
Klain is amazing all the time

863
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,600
right?
All right.

864
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,500
Do we have any any last thoughts
or feelings on this deceptive?

865
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,600
Yes.
When else will agree with but

866
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,800
the very last scene where Sue
Has decorated shuster's house

867
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,700
was just like my deep dark
secret of they go from enemies

868
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:10,700
to friends to lovers and it
really set up if that had been

869
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:12,700
the trajectory of them, this
would have been that episode

870
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:14,900
real like well, they've gone
from enemies to friends because

871
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:18,900
she you know, she had her Grinch
change of heart and she gave him

872
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:22,400
a Christmas and they had that
shared a little, they shared a

873
00:57:22,408 --> 00:57:25,800
moment together.
Made that that Would have made

874
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,300
sense if they started to do
that.

875
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:33,200
Yeah, so in my, in my mind, this
is the turn of their

876
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,600
relationship into act two from
from enemies to friends.

877
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,700
And then act 3 comes like
season.

878
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:42,000
For were they shift into a
relationship?

879
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:47,300
I can't, I can't, I can't like
my deep dark secret.

880
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,700
Don't, don't look at me.
What are the kids say?

881
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:52,100
Don't at me.
Are you doing fellow kids?

882
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,500
My stomach kids.
Go ice my knee.

883
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Well, I think that's all we have
for the episode.

884
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Isn't we have some podcasts on a
whole updates that we want to

885
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:11,200
run through?
Yes, we do, we have updates.

886
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:16,800
I guess we finally, I guess
after much consideration as much

887
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,700
as we consider anything ever
have set up a patreon account,

888
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:25,100
because why not?
Because all the cool kids do it.

889
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,200
So it's literally just
patreon.com slash Glee on the

890
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,100
rocks and there's a couple
low-level tears.

891
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:36,400
With some, we're going to do
some first, listen, access to

892
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,400
the podcasts, as they come out
and, you know, user only content

893
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,800
and news as we have those
things, and then we're going to

894
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,200
do some giveaways.
So you'll get like, entries to

895
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,500
our giveaways, we're going to
have like Glee swag.

896
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,000
Another pop culture swag that we
have accumulated over the years

897
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:58,100
as being pop culture, weird.
Yes, and they have a lot, we've

898
00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:01,600
got a lot of stuff hanging
around and then kind of one of

899
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,000
the higher tiers that we are
going to do are some mini

900
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episodes where we will.
So shorter 10 to 20 minute

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episodes covering current
gleamed news because it's been

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10 years and yet Glee still
shows up in pop culture and, you

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know, covering things that the
cast is doing up to eight stuff

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of the cast like new songs and
new music, and new movies and

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things of that nature.
So, the point of the patreon is

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we would like to shift from our
kind of free service where we

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record this podcast to a much
better paid service called Zen

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Caster, but that cost money and
we don't have money and also

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upgrading our microphones to
give you better.

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Polity every episode all the
time in perpetuity.

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So I mean I guess until the
world ends which depending on

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climate change.
So that is next year.

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So feel like next year who
fucking knows so that is where

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we are right now.
So you can check that out if you

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would like to what is it called
subscribing following paying I'm

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not sure.
Patronizing patronizing.

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That is a patron to to Patron
that is launched in live and

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01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,600
will start posting some links to
that on our various social media

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:38,900
accounts, to get the word out.
And that's my and we, yay!

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Yay for update.
Yay, for having these pieces and

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01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:49,800
you basically want to sound more
professional for you guys when

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you're listening and We just
need a little help doing that.

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Any other?
I had a four-hitter update.

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All right, we've got favorite
songs.

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David lines are Kevin McHale
scale, clean decks never

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realized it until just now.
That is that is why I called it

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the Macadam scale, it's because
I'm Mikhail scale, the Kevin

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scale.
Uh-huh, gotta be Kevin McHale

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and too late to change.
The mains, I will if I can do

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it.
Let's just let's just leave it

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there.
I got you.

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All right.
Well with that I'm going to say.

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Merry Christmas everybody.
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