Bonus Episode #44 - WGA Strike and a Swift Rant

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You're listening, particularly
on the rocks.

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Hello, Welcome back to another
bonus episode of Fandom On the

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rocks.
I am Emily.

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And I'm Mandy, and this is a
bonus episode about the WGA Sag

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after a strike.
You're not gonna be talking

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about TV shows right now?
No.

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Fuck those execs, CEO's, People
in charge.

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Yep.
Got the acronym AM PTP.

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Amptpa.
Yeah, Amptpa, the AMPTP.

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AMPTP, Yes, Yes, AMPTPA, The
Alliance of Motion Picture and

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Television Producers.
Yep.

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And as of the time we are
recording have not come to an

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agreement with SAG or THE WGA.
They have not even resumed

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negotiations as of August 6th.
So we, and I'm sure people

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listening to this, have seen
other podcasts make statements

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and say things like this.
And we are as well choosing to

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stand with the WJAWJWGA and SAG
AFTRA in solidarity with the

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unions, which means that we will
be abiding by the strike rules,

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which means we will not be
posting new episodes about

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struck work.
Yeah.

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And that's.
That's TV shows.

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That's Glee and that's
Supernatural.

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The we're.
So close to recording another

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episode of Supernatural, we can
watch them and we can record

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them.
That's true, which we will be

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doing.
We will be recording new

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episodes during the Strike.
However, there is a whole

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section in the SAG Astra FAQ's
around podcasting about rewatch

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and companion.
Podcasts are considered

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promotional material because
they drive people to struck

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companies platforms to watch
shows that are promoted by

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podcasts.
And even though we are not union

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members ourselves, we are
devoted watchers of union

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material of we are devoted
supporters of the writers and

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the directors and the actors.
Although the the directors

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themselves struck a deal earlier
this year and are maybe going to

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regret that down the line.
But we think it's our duty to

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stand with the the unions in
search of a fair contract.

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Because they deserve to get paid
and get paid on time.

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Yeah, and have a decent, livable
working conditions.

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They deserve not to have their
likenesses scanned in a truck

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and then used in perpetuity.
Yeah, and Fox is one of the

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struck companies.
Obviously.

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It's maybe not the most
profitable of the struck

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companies between Netflix and
Disney and Paramount and Warner

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Brothers and whatever, but they
they do make money on those

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programs that we talk about.
And so until the strike is over,

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we won't be posting new content
about those struck shows.

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However, we will be posting new
bonus episodes about non struck

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material.
Books, music, food, birds.

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There is a wealth of material
that in fandom that we are well

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we're allowed to do anything,
but we will be following the

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rules and can talk about.
So that is what we are doing.

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You can go to websiteslikewa.com
cannot talk WGA contract

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2023.org to find out ways that
you can support the strike and

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learn more about what they are
campaigning for.

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And there is also sag after
strike.org to read more about

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what is going on because it's
garbage.

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And I know a lot of people look
at celebrities like the A

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Listers and think, but they're
fine, They're not fine.

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It's what is it?
Something like 80% of 80

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something percent of actors
don't make the minimum to get

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health insurance through.
26,000, 26,000 a year to get

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health insurance through.
No one is striking for the A

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listers.
The A Listers are like a vast

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minority of people in these
unions, and the same is true for

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the writers.
The people are not striking

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because they want fucking Ryan
Murphy to have more money.

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They're striking because writers
rooms are being taken away and

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because Netflix isn't giving
royalties anymore, and because

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these stupid six episodes
seasons are ruining the way

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media is being created.
And it's it's not good for you,

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the viewer either and whether or
not you real not to tell you

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what you like or don't like, but
it's it's not good for the

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industry as a whole.
And it has such a ripple effect,

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like on things you probably
wouldn't even realize unless

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you've, like, bred up a lot on
this.

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But even things like if you go
to look for a show you liked a

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few years ago, you're not going
to find it on a streaming

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network because they pulled it
because they pay residuals for

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it.
And one of the things I was

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reading earlier, this is
actually the link I pulled up is

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pop Great posting about how Joe
Bragg, I don't actually know who

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that is, but I guess he was on a
Disney show.

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Talked about how because Disney
had a deal where the Writers

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Guild got 88% of scale for the
first three seasons of a show.

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Then on the third season, Disney
would apparently regularly

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reboot their shows as a new
show.

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It would be like they use the
example of like the Sweet Life

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of Zack and Cody was on for
three years and then it changed

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to the Sweet Life on deck so
that they could reset the deal.

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So I think it might fit for
years.

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They need not doing that.
And it was strictly just to keep

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the writers from passing that
three seasons like point where

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they would get paid more.
Yeah, it's it's wild.

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And you know what they're trying
to do with what I mean, it's it

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gets called a I.
It's really large language

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models.
So there are union minimums in

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the contracts about what writers
get paid for a script and a

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Polish based on the budget of
the TV show, if it's 1/2 hour,

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if it's an hour, if it's
streaming, if you know whatever

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the category of the show is or a
movie, if it's a low budget, if

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it's a high budget, etc.
And the concern, one of the big

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sticking points right now that
it looks like the a MPTP don't

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even want to negotiate yet on,
is being allowed possibly to

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have like something like chat
cheap PT to spit out a what

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would be called a draft of a
script.

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And then you bring in a writer
to then perform a Polish on that

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script.
And that minimum is far lower

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than if the writer is given
credit for the rough draft and

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the Polish itself.
So then they're only being paid

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and aren't giving credit for the
script and the Polish.

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They're only being given the
minimum for the Polish and no

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credit.
That's like they're going so far

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out of their way to try and,
like, not pay these writers.

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And then again, literally not
paying them.

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Because even what they do owe
them, they'll wait years to

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actually, yes, follow through.
And as if in the vast budget of

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a movie, what they're paying a
writer is even like, yes, it's

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above the line in in a budget,
but like the bulk of your movie

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budget is not your writer.
It's your CGI and it's the it's

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so much more.
It's your insurance and the

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thousands of people.
You pay for location and and

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everything else.
It's not the one, well, it's

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often not one person writing a
script, but it's not your

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writer.
You're not paying that person

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$10 million to write a movie.
So they're looking for, I think

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an 11% general wage increase in
year one, 4% in year 2 and 4% in

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year three.
And the latest counter was 5% in

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year one.
And this is trying to adjust for

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inflation as well.
Yeah, because they haven't been

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able to strike a new deal that
actually was substantial in a

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long time.
Yep, off of living has gone up

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exponentially.
Yep.

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And you know part of the the
contracts, the negotiations that

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SAG after have proposed are per
diem increases partly to match

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inflation because that hasn't
been adjusted I think since

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2001.
That is I think they did agree

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to a tentative agreements to
schedule breaks.

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So that's nice.
So there were a few agreements

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that they have been making, but
some have just been like

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straight up rejected or refusing
to speak at all about it.

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One which I thought was like
there's a whole section about

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basic respect and fairness
around background actors and the

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the union the producers side has
really seems to be like digging

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in about background actors which
is so like disrespectful around

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the business of background
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They the SAG AFTRA wants to
there right now there are terms

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for East Coast and West Coast
they're separate for some reason

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and SAG after wants to bring all
background actors under one

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agreement so that they're
treated equally.

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And the AM PTP was like, no,
don't want to do that like what?

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Why I don't?
Yeah, like what they've gotten

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away with for so long is wild.
Is it just so that they could

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not pay New York people the same
Like what what is happening here

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that's so strange.
So, you know, we could, we could

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spend 9 hours talking about the
strike and why it's important.

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Maybe we will.
Maybe we'll just keep going.

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I don't know.
It's important, you know, for

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our podcast, I think because has
consumers, I think it's really

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easy to think that this stuff is
a given, right?

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That like, all right people make
film and theater and TV and you

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consume it.
And it doesn't mean anything

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until you try to go find any one
of the shows that Netflix has

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now taken off the air and you're
like show like, well, This is

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why this is, this is the one of
the end results of these

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companies getting away with
things.

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And This is why it should matter
to you and the argument that

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entertainment is somehow less
valuable or oh, they already get

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paid too much.
They get paid more than me.

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Like well, they don't though.
These writers rooms have now

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been whittled down to these
small rooms that they work 6

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episodes and that's all they get
for the entire year.

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Yeah, I would need to
necessarily find a job again.

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And not only are they not
getting paid what a lot of

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people think they're getting
paid, but it's extremely

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unstable work.
Extraordinarily, yeah.

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And there used to be kind of
this track where you get into a

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writers room and you there's a
mentorship process and you get

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to learn how to write and create
a show and and you followed A

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trajectory that maybe
potentially led to you

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showrunning And it's that's like
breaking down that that route is

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just falling apart and that's
not good.

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We you don't.
There's there's a lot of talk

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out there about like the auteurs
of even like the Ryan Murphy's

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or the Tyler Sheridan's from
like Yellowstone, of these, like

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one man running the entire ship.
Like that's actually not good.

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It doesn't feed into a healthy
atmosphere around a show if it's

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just one person kicking a can
for a TV show or a movie.

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The lack of collaboration does
not mean something is

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necessarily good just because
there's like a white guy at the

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helm.
I would.

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Say it usually means something
not good.

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It usually means that there's
maybe a problem.

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And the scenes, at least it
means it's probably not good.

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So these, you know, when you
look through the contract of

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what they're just straight out
rejecting, it seems to speak to

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what the producers value.
You know, one of the art of one

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of the points in here is
performance capture work.

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And the sag after aside is, you
know, saying finally acknowledge

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that performance capture is a
sag after a covered category of

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work and the producers are like
rejected, not even coming.

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Back What do you mean by
performance capture?

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This is me not being as so like
the the work in the the green

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screen suits like.
Yeah, yeah.

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So actually saying that the work
that Andy Serkis did in the

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Gollum suit is sag after work,
it's acting work.

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Yeah, that so.
I wasn't even aware that was a

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debated thing.
Yeah, yeah, that it that it is a

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skilled form of performance that
makes projects like Avatar and

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Lord of the Rings and absolutely
everything that gets made these

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days possible.
And the Producers Guild is like,

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fuck you guys, Yeah, so if you
thought your workplace was

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toxic.
Yeah, that's nothing here.

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How long do you think the strike
is like?

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What do you think will be their
breaking point?

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Will it be when, like, you know,
upfronts are supposed to happen

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and suddenly there's nothing to
show off?

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Or will they crack before that?
I have no idea cuz like they're

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not even resuming negotiations.
Are we just gonna have like an

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entire season of, like, reality
shows?

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Maybe, Yeah.
So the part of the problem, I

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think, is that the AMPTP is not
the Producers Guild itself.

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Like they are an intermediary
who does the negotiations on

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behalf of the studios.
So they they have like a set of

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things that the studios have
said these are our what we're

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willing to do and and agree to.
But if if they're in the in the

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negotiation room and something
comes up that the producers

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haven't explicitly told them
they don't have the power to to

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barter, they don't have the
power to wiggle.

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They then have to go back to the
member studios, talk it through

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with them and then come back to
the to the room, which is

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stupid, It's like.
I'm wasting a lot of time that

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could be used like productively
working through things if you

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think.
Inclined, Yeah.

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And I don't know why that that's
a history lesson that I haven't

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taken yet.
Like, I don't know why it got

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set up like that.
Yeah.

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So I think this was a few days
ago, that it was their first

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meeting in a few months between
the Writers Guild and the AMPTP,

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that they failed to reach an
agreement to resume

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negotiations.
Not even like a new negotiation,

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just failed to come back to the
table at all.

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So I I don't know.
I mean it's it's money.

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Yeah, you know, it's it could
last a long time.

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It could go on.
That's going to be interesting.

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Not just like to see how they
try and cope, but also like

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there are indie studios who are
capitulating to all of the

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agreements.
If the side effect of this was a

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rise of like, indie projects
that might not have gotten off

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the ground otherwise, yeah.
So A 24 is an independent studio

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who agreed to the terms despite
the strike.

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So 824 gets to continue on like
a couple of productions after

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they got an exemption from SAG
AFTRA.

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I that's like the end of my
knowledge of how the strike

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works.
So they get to they get to film

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those movies.
I I assume that also means they

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get to like edit, cut produced
etcetera finish them but then I

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don't know what happens is if
I'm assuming they also then get

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to release them theatrically,
but do they so then do they

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stream them because then what
like what's with the royalty

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situation?
True, so then.

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Yeah.
Ohh, interesting.

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Yeah.
Then then I feel like now I need

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to talk to someone in the know
of Okay.

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So they've made this movie,
let's say it goes into a

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theater.
And they they make some money

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that way, but they're still
going to want to release it on a

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streaming platform.
But if the streaming platforms

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aren't according to the
streaming residual, now what?

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Can we get a return to physical
DVD's with all the extras?

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Yes, give me.
That's not it.

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I will.
Pay for it like I will do the

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money.
That like, fairly compensates

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for that, yes.
That is not in the.

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The contract is a return to DVD
extras.

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There's there's a unnamed
colorful project being released

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on a streaming platform very
shortly.

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If you know, you know, and all I
can think is like, man, I kind

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of want to buy it on DVD, just
in case there are DVD addresses,

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because they're not.
There won't be any on streaming.

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It's not like, yeah, like, can I
get a Where's the fucking

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blooper reel?
Oh, that would that goddamn

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blooper reel of these idiots
like.

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So good.
Like not only would I feel good

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that, like, supporting something
that wasn't against the strike,

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but also it's like that would be
more fun than the streaming

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experience at right?
Yes, I would pay more to have a

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fucking blooper reel of a couple
of idiots that I enjoy watching.

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I don't even know if our DVD
player works at this point.

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I would buy a fucking DVD player
to buy a DVD to give, and it's

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still a streaming studio.
Put out this movie.

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But I'd still rather that two
cents go directly to the actors.

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Yeah, because it's not a
streaming residual.

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It's a physical production like.
I would be.

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So if that was something the
studios actually ended up like

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the studios that are, you know,
supported in their filmmaking

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were allowed or encouraged to
do, I would be so behind that.

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Yeah, And I know, I know the
strike is costing a lot of

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people down the line.
Like a lot of below the line

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workers.
A lot.

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There are a lot of PA's who
probably don't have savings,

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who, who where they going to go.
I'm sure people are exhausting

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their unemployment benefits and
looking for for gigs on the side

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while this is happening and that
sucks, right?

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But those PA's I I feel like
they must know that trying to

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climb the ladder in Hollywood
right now, it's a upstream

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battle that they were never
going to win.

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No, it's a system meant to keep
everyone from winning that isn't

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already at the top.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, 100% it.
Yeah.

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And you know the streaming to
like no one makes any money but

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the the network.
So like we at one of my

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companies, we had, we we put our
own old backlog like back

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catalog of movies up on like a
indie film streaming platform

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and then you'd get the residual
payments in.

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You're just like, cool.
Thanks for the coffee.

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I was about to say, was it even
enough for Starbucks money?

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Uh, no.
And it's not like they were

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inceptionally popular movies,
right?

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So then you think you try to
extrapolate to a popular movie

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and you're still like, what is
the point?

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Yeah, I do.
I I do a producer right Then you

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have to think of if you cut that
into fractions for the actors

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insane.
Those people I love.

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And I think this strike is I
don't want to say it's doing

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better but it has a different
vibe than the was it 2007 was

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that the.
Yeah.

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Wondering the Lost strike?
Was that the?

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Honestly, in my mind, it's just
the Doctor.

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Horrible strike that.
I think it was the 2007 writers

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strike because of social media
and because writers can and and

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actors and people getting
residual checks can post their

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check and be like look a cent.
And I was the lead writer on an

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extraordinarily popular show
that you watched and were a fan

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of.
And this is how much I get paid

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for it.
Yeah, no, you're absolutely

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right.
Like social media, it just makes

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such a big difference.
Even with billionaires actively

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trying to destroy the social
media platforms, yeah.

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Well, somehow it's very useful I
think to be able to see a

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creative that you admire and
support and love and have social

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relationships with go, hey, that
thing that you love and watch

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and support in the door.
I don't make anything from it

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because of these greedy fucks up
the chain, right?

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And I I know there are the same
amount of people who are like

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it's just a TV show, they
already got paid for it.

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Like that's not how this works
though.

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Like you have a nine to five job
and you get a steady income

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whether or not you do your eight
hour day of work.

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But I do think that is it.
I think that for a lot of people

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who aren't exceptionally, like,
obsessive about their media, it

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really is just this assumption
that, like, they're both jobs.

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Their job must be like my job,
and I wouldn't be allowed to do

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that.
So why do they get to do it?

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Yeah, yeah.
Everyone should unionize,

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though.
They should.

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I was It was always so annoying
that assistants don't have a

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union.
Hollywood assistants don't have

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a union.
And it's because part of it is

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because the honestly, the WGA
didn't, at the time anyway, want

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them joining because they
weren't writers.

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OK, there wasn't at the I don't
know if it's changing yet, but

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there was nowhere to put us.
There wasn't anywhere to go that

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fit, but there was always kind
of rumblings of like, where

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could assistants unionize?
Where do they go?

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And I think one group of
Hollywood assistants unionized

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now.
I can't remember what it was.

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No, it's a different someone
unionized.

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Can't remember who it was.
George the Cat should lead

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everyone into battle for unions,
yes?

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Yeah.
Writers, oh, writers assistants

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were able.
Writers assistants and script

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coordinators were able to
unionize under Ayazi.

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But but assistance, yeah,
because they there was you

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couldn't prove that you were
doing like writing writing.

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But yeah, so I don't know if you
are listening to this and you

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love media, which I think if you
are listening to a podcast about

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media, you probably do, Then
take a second to look at those

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websites.
We mentioned the WGA contract

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2023.org and the sag after
strike.org to see if there's

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anything that you want to do to
support your local writers and

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actors.
And not like you don't need to

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support like Ben Affleck.
He's fine.

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Yeah, yeah.
No support.

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The people who are literally,
like, can't afford healthcare.

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Yeah.
And are waiting like a year and

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a half later for a check for a
show they worked on exactly.

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And honestly this this includes
like skipping conventions this

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year which sorry it sucks cuz I
know we all love our cons but.

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As someone who works on a con, I
actually do have a lot of

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insight into how we're handling
it, yes.

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So announcements.
We are not mentioning projects

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Okay.
All announcements like, strictly

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just we've actually been having
kind of fun with coming up with

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him.
Let's see.

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I'm just gonna go to get around.
Yeah, that's actually really.

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Yeah, I'd love to hear about
this because the strike says

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that you can you you can't
participate to promote companies

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that are being struck.
Right.

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So, well, you might be able to
if it doesn't promote your work

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like.
Yeah, and that's what we're

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doing.
Like the panels that we're gonna

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have with celebrity guests will
not be focused on the projects.

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OK, cool.
And like, there's some because

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they, they reached out for like
specific, like instructions.

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And so, like, if someone has
been in Star Wars, they can do a

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panel on, you know?
Women in sci-fi?

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Okay.
Yeah, Yeah.

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But the panel won't be about
what it was like to work on Star

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Wars.
It'll be much more conceptually

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than yeah, so I just picked one
at random.

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Who is Matt Davis?
What is Matt Davis?

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You know what?
Doesn't matter what he's in,

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actually.
Yeah, the announcement was how

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many chickens can fit in Matt
Davis's car.

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We wonder if it'll leave his car
unlocked at Dragon Con 2023.

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Nice.
So like, all of them are like

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that.
Like none of our announcements

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feature like anything about the
project.

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None of them will.
Photo OPS are fine, there's

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nothing different about that.
Autographs.

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They will only be bringing
headshots, they will not be

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bringing specific images from.
Any projects, so none of the

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stuff you can get autograph that
you can buy there at their table

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will feature any product like I
mean any promotion.

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People are allowed to bring
stuff from home and ask if

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they'll sign it, but it is fully
at the like the, you know,

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writer or Russian.
As to whether they will sign it

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or not, yeah.
But yeah, all the panels will be

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moderated.
None of them will be actually

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about the specific shows or
whatever.

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Okay Okay.
So that's how my con is handling

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it.
I actually know entirely what

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Comic Con did, but I do know
that it's just less guests all

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around.
Yeah, I saw a lot of the big

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things pulling or pulled out of
Comic Con my.

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Hugely industry one anyway.
So it's, I think it much more

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easier for us to adapt.
Yeah.

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You know what we need to do is
have an episode purely about

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Dragon Con.
That would be cool and just let

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you go off on it and talk to
people about it.

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Because I it will be like I do
work on the social media team,

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so like throughout the
convention.

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I also will not be the only
thing I haven't specifically

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asked, Like I'm assuming cosplay
is not going to be considered

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promotion.
Oh, is there a section on

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cosplay?
Yeah, because that that will

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affect like me on like on on the
property.

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So I haven't said that.
Let's see if they say something

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disappoint my fans.
Well, this, you know the sack

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actor is a lot for the actors.
Oh, can I cosplay as my

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character?
Cosplay as a character from

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00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:24,470
struck work can in fact promote
struck work, even if that is not

455
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:27,390
your intent.
If you are cosplaying as a

456
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:31,470
character that is from something
other than struck work, such as

457
00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:34,470
a comic book or television
animation, that is fine.

458
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:37,590
So that's, well, just like me
personally, that's probably how

459
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:39,550
I'm going to handle it with
stuff to put on social media.

460
00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:43,670
I will probably just choose the
cosplayers to highlight that are

461
00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:48,630
not from struck work because I
mean it is, it is a like pop

462
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:50,750
culture convention.
There will be a million, you

463
00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:51,710
know?
Yeah.

464
00:32:52,150 --> 00:32:55,590
Other options.
And it it does say it's you

465
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:59,070
know, what if a fan comes to a
photo op in cosplay as a

466
00:32:59,070 --> 00:33:02,720
character from struck work, we
understand that you do not have

467
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,880
control over what the fans do.
This is OK.

468
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,640
So as the actor, you do not get
in trouble with the union.

469
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,680
If you are in a photo with a
fan, instruct work cosplay.

470
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:15,960
That's good.
Yeah.

471
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240
We're we're not actors.
Thank God.

472
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680
So because you.
No.

473
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Thank you.
OK.

474
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,760
That's really interesting.
Yeah, we should do well.

475
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,480
You should do.
I don't.

476
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,200
I can.
I'm happy to chat.

477
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,970
I don't know anything about.
I mean, I've been to, I've been

478
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:36,010
to conventions.
I have worked at one well over

479
00:33:36,010 --> 00:33:38,370
the years, but happy to.
That'd be fun.

480
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:38,890
We should do that.
We.

481
00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:41,730
Can we can also definitely do
like a follow up on that after

482
00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:43,970
the convention because it's like
a little, it's a little under a

483
00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:46,850
month away.
So to see how like the panels

484
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:50,050
and stuff will go with it, yeah,
they haven't put a schedule out

485
00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:51,610
yet.
So I don't know actually what

486
00:33:51,610 --> 00:33:56,050
the the panels will look like,
but they've definitely been like

487
00:33:56,050 --> 00:33:59,690
crowdsourcing creative panel
concepts for some of the guests.

488
00:34:01,490 --> 00:34:04,610
Listeners, take note.
Dragon Con episodes on the

489
00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:09,090
horizon.
This is how we will be dealing

490
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:13,010
with the strike.
OK, well, that is, you know,

491
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:14,370
it's kind of how we feel about
the strike.

492
00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:16,330
We are pro union in this
household.

493
00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:21,449
Writers and actors getting paid.
Pro writers and actors getting

494
00:34:21,449 --> 00:34:24,690
paid for the work that we all
enjoy and benefit and profit

495
00:34:24,690 --> 00:34:29,949
from.
So, like, yay, fuck Ryan Murphy.

496
00:34:29,949 --> 00:34:34,190
But, you know, talk.
To me from a 24, it's amazing

497
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:35,550
movie.
Yes.

498
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:37,150
Yeah.
Not struck.

499
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:41,830
So yes, exactly.
Yeah, there are in some

500
00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:44,870
independent studios out there
who are getting exemptions from

501
00:34:45,429 --> 00:34:51,790
the studios or from the the
unions.

502
00:34:52,830 --> 00:34:56,510
Finally, before we go, because
music is not struck, I do want

503
00:34:56,510 --> 00:35:02,860
to lodge a rant a a small rant
about something that has just

504
00:35:03,020 --> 00:35:07,380
bothered me the last couple days
and that is celebrities taking

505
00:35:07,460 --> 00:35:12,740
precious tickets away from the
Taylor Swift shows, especially

506
00:35:12,740 --> 00:35:16,380
the LA stops.
I know it's unavoidable.

507
00:35:17,140 --> 00:35:19,540
I know that it was going to
happen.

508
00:35:19,940 --> 00:35:24,300
However, it's really fucking
annoying to see them all in a

509
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:27,740
box that they probably didn't
even pay for.

510
00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:31,100
I was going to say I know a lot
of influencers and actors were

511
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:34,420
invited.
Someone I follow online actually

512
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:37,660
got an invite from Instagram to
be in one of the boxes.

513
00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:39,980
I will say she was singing
along.

514
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:43,940
She didn't focus all of her
videos on herself.

515
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:49,500
That's a choice to you even
watching the show.

516
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:55,450
But yeah.
Lots of lots of influencers and

517
00:35:55,450 --> 00:35:57,010
and celebrities taking up those
seats.

518
00:35:57,090 --> 00:35:59,970
Huh.
You're taking up tickets for

519
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:05,770
people who could not get them.
And like maybe some of you are

520
00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:09,610
fans and I don't want to have to
ask you to prove that you're

521
00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:14,450
fans, but you know that you
didn't have to work hard to get

522
00:36:14,450 --> 00:36:17,170
those tickets the way a lot of
people had to get tickets.

523
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:20,890
I couldn't get tickets.
I'm insanely bitter.

524
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:25,330
It's fine.
But like, come on.

525
00:36:27,570 --> 00:36:30,170
Ugh.
They just look like a bunch of

526
00:36:30,170 --> 00:36:34,210
tools in a box.
Like Billy Joel can go to Taylor

527
00:36:34,210 --> 00:36:39,290
Swift.
That's fine because you know,

528
00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:43,210
it's Billy Joel.
I'm actually I need you to wish

529
00:36:43,210 --> 00:36:46,750
me luck.
I'm going for Taylor Swift New

530
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:48,750
Orleans tickets.
God damn it.

531
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:51,390
Everyone is gonna get to go but.
I don't know.

532
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:52,950
I don't actually know that I
will.

533
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:57,310
I don't.
I'm not even a big Taylor Swift

534
00:36:57,310 --> 00:37:00,430
fan, but my girlfriend and her
sister are.

535
00:37:01,790 --> 00:37:05,550
And then we're like, we wanna go
to New Orleans if we can get

536
00:37:05,550 --> 00:37:06,910
tickets.
So I was like, all right, yes,

537
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:10,070
I'm trying to get tickets.
I mean, if you go get me a

538
00:37:10,070 --> 00:37:11,750
bracelet.
Yes.

539
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:15,140
But that is still that.
Like even oh, I'm gonna try to

540
00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:17,300
get tickets is obviously not a
guarantee.

541
00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:19,740
Yes, totally.
Access code.

542
00:37:20,180 --> 00:37:22,900
You know bloodbath is gonna
happen in a couple of days.

543
00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:26,300
Absolutely will.
I'm I'm not holding my breath

544
00:37:26,780 --> 00:37:29,980
and I'm also, I mean if I don't
get the access code, I'm it's,

545
00:37:29,980 --> 00:37:31,060
it's done.
I'm giving up.

546
00:37:31,060 --> 00:37:32,940
That's all.
Yeah, totally.

547
00:37:34,940 --> 00:37:39,180
But yes, that that's my slight
rant for the Taylor Swift shows

548
00:37:39,260 --> 00:37:45,440
just like come on, Just so.
My addendum to it is I think

549
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Taylor Swift should play a
celebrity only performance in

550
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:56,040
LA, where tickets are like
$100,000, but the proceeds go to

551
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,760
like a dozen charities.
That would be amazing.

552
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,480
So you just.
Do that, Yeah.

553
00:38:02,330 --> 00:38:05,850
All of the douchebags in one
stadium at one time.

554
00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:08,850
They all have to pony up.
They can all take selfies of

555
00:38:08,850 --> 00:38:11,930
each other.
You get all that bad vibe out in

556
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:13,690
one show, right?
Like.

557
00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:17,770
Even half after the like half
ass the show right?

558
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:26,170
Let's think it for that specific
show she rests right that night.

559
00:38:17,770 --> 00:38:21,130
She can have like 1 chill show
for herself or she doesn't have

560
00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:27,050
to give it 190.
No one's gonna care.

561
00:38:27,050 --> 00:38:28,990
No one's gonna know.
They're not paying attention

562
00:38:28,990 --> 00:38:30,390
anyway.
They're taking videos of

563
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:32,190
themselves.
It's totally fine.

564
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:36,110
Charge them up the wazoo.
Make them feel special.

565
00:38:36,110 --> 00:38:37,910
They're not listening.
They don't even care.

566
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:42,390
They just want to be seen at a
Taylor Swift concert and then

567
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:46,040
you can donate all that money to
charity and then you get them

568
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,120
out of the way for the other
shows that.

569
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,520
And your other shows can be like
actual fans that, yeah, probably

570
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,200
gave up a kidney and, you know,
murdered people to get there as

571
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,480
traveling, traveling thousands
of miles to see something.

572
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Yep.
Anyway, that's my proposal to to

573
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,880
miss Swift.
Hopefully this gets to her.

574
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Hopefully this gets to her.
People is a celebrity only

575
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,240
event.
Get them out of of real people.

576
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,390
Yes, and then everyone else can
have a good time.

577
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:21,030
Okay.
I don't know.

578
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:24,070
Do you have a rant before we?
I don't think I have a rant

579
00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:27,070
right now.
I feel like the WGA was my rant.

580
00:39:27,350 --> 00:39:29,950
It's a good one.
And the actors, too, Yes.

581
00:39:30,190 --> 00:39:34,430
But yeah.
All right, Well, then this was

582
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:39,360
our bonus episode.
We'll be, I mean they will all

583
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,160
be bonus episodes until the
strike is over.

584
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,440
We will come up with as much
content as we can figure out

585
00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,480
without.
I mean we can't cross picket

586
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,840
lines because we're not can as a
non union whatever.

587
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,360
We stand in solidarity, so we
will be even.

588
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,160
If we could, we're not gonna.
Even if we could, we wouldn't,

589
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,040
because entertainment is what we
love and that's what we're going

590
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,800
to support.
So we hope you do as well.

591
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,000
So stay frosty out there.
I know it's August and

592
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,240
disgusting.
It's the.

593
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,360
Worst.
That would be my rant if I were

594
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,520
gonna insert a rant in here at
the fact that it's been like

595
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960
freaking 108 degrees every
single day for the past week.

596
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,120
Foul.
Fucking foul.

597
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:30,880
Yes.
Well, on that note, yeah, cancel

598
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,240
your no, I was gonna say don't
cancel it.

599
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,800
Don't.
You don't need to cancel in your

600
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120
subscriptions.
The Union hasn't asked anyone to

601
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,370
yet.
But be ready to If they do, be

602
00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:45,290
on the lookout for instructions
from the writers and stay tuned

603
00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:47,050
for more episodes on the
pipeline.

604
00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:49,050
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605
00:40:49,690 --> 00:40:52,490
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