Bonus Episode: 9-1-1 Mini Series #1

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You're listening to fandom on
the rocks.

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Hello, welcome to phantom on the
rocks.

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You have found us for a new
bonus episode miniseries about

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the hit Ryan Murphy Show 911.
I'm Emily.

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And I'm Allison.
And we are dragging you down

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into the depths of our depravity
with us.

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I'm I pitched to Emily that this
series should just be called

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Ryan Murphy on the rocks because
it feels like every couple of

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years Ryan Murphy comes up with
a new show to ruin me.

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And whether that's, you know,
ruining my life specifically or

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just ruining fandoms life at
large, I don't know.

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But it does have one common
theme, and that common theme is

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Ryan Murphy.
You're not wrong, I just don't

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want to give him that much
power.

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I've given him power.
I've given him that much power.

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I've been involved in Ryan
Murphy fandom for like 10. 15.

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Years now.
I know, I know, it starts well.

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I mean, I watched some of Nip
Tuck, but like, not really.

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So I mean, I guess Glee was the
real money.

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Yeah, Glee was the big money.
Yeah, and, and to be

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transparent, while I'm watching
911, I am also watching Doctor

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Odyssey.
I.

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You don't have to watch it.
Don't do it.

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It's not good.
No, it's not.

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But you want to give me a, you
want to give me an OT three.

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You want to give me a threesome
right there on my TV screen,

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I'll take it.
I'll throw.

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I'm so mad about it.
OK sidebar on the sidebar.

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They did it.
They did the thing on screen and

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then immediately gave it a
pregnancy plot.

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No.
I know immediately they kiboshed

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the OT 3 and gave it a
pregnancy.

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Who's the daddy?
And I was like oh gross.

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That is a season 8 problem.
That is not the.

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Daddy, both of them.
Both of them, there's twins and

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they're both the daddy.
They're both the daddy.

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I agree.
Like, there's gonna be twins and

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they're both a daddy and then
they she miscarries and doesn't

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have to give up her dreams of
being a doctor.

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Like, how does this go?
We know how it goes because you

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cannot have her pregnant in the
first season.

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That is garbage storytelling.
So.

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Bad I I just.
Yeah, yeah.

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That's A season 8 problem.
That is not a season.

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That's not a mid season one
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No, that's a We've all been
dancing around each other for,

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you know, five years and all of
a sudden you're finally

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pregnant.
Are we gonna be a real family?

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Are we all gonna come together?
Is it finally time?

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Or like, we've run out of things
to do on this ship.

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Uh oh.
Pregnant 'cause it's it's a

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telenovela, right?
Like more so than 911?

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Which is such a telenovela.
Yeah, OK, so back to 911, 'cause

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that's what we're here to talk
about because I've been watching

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it since the beginning.
Allison resisted.

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I have not.
We can tell that story, So,

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yeah.
I was watching, I was not really

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involved in the fandom because
I've been in enough fandoms.

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I just wanted to watch a TV show
and not play in the sandbox and

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just have something to enjoy.
Except, you know, season 2 rolls

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around and they bring on Ryan
Guzman as Eddie Diaz and oh

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look, a ship is born in mere
seconds and now what are you

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supposed to do about it?
What are you going to do about

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that?
So.

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So.
And here we are.

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And here we are.
I mean, I know it's season 8 and

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only now are we talking about
it, but that's because this

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podcast has been about 19 other
things and like, why make it

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messier with another Ryan Murphy
Brad Falchuk fuckfest?

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I do believe I also saw Joaquin
Sedillo in the credits.

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He OK?
Yes motherfucker, he was the DP

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for the first seven seasons.
He is not the DP for the 8th

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season.
And as much as we love Joaquin,

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the the cinematography for the
8th season is.

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Better.
It's really good.

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It's so good.
And like, we love us, Joaquin.

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It did the job for the first
seven seasons.

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It was a look, it was a style,
it was a thing.

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And also we pay reverence.
To we pay reverence to Joaquin,

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he is plain king king shit
Joaquin.

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If you ever want to come talk to
us, we would love to pick your

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brain.
Oh my gosh, I just want to sit

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at your plain.
I want to sit at your feet and

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feed you pie and thank you for
everything you've ever given us.

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Yes, you were there for us in
Glee and we.

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In our time with need.
But there's something about the

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cinematography in Season 8.
I don't know if it's different

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directors, if a budget change
happened, if there was a mandate

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to do more, to make it more, to
change the style, basically.

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But there are shots in Season 8
where you're like, that is a

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movie.
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Like it's just different.
So RIP Joaquin, we would love to

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talk to you.
We want to talk to you about

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Glee.
Like, Oh yeah.

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But yes, he gave us seven
seasons of 911 and we are

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forever grateful to the Holy
Ghost.

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So.
Indeed.

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But I don't know.
So we're just here to talk about

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911 because Emily finally
succeeded in dragging me in.

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And the thing you need to know
about me is that I am an

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incredibly anxious bird, right?
I have been dealing with big,

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big feelings in my little bitty
brain for most of my life.

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And I try really hard,
especially in the days now that

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we are medicated and going back
to the baseline of not trying to

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stress myself out too much,
right?

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I'm trying because my brain
stresses me out enough.

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And so one of my cardinal rules
is to not get involved with TV

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that's still going.
I watched my mother fall in love

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with Lost.
I watched her fall in love with

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The Walking Dead.
I watched her fall in love with

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Justified and The West Wing.
And they all broke her heart

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every single time.
And I was like, you know what?

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I can't really control my love
life because boys are dumb, but

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I can't control my TV watching
habits.

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And so I don't want to get into
shows that aren't finished.

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And for a long time, I've been
able to do that.

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And something happened a couple
of weeks ago and I finally

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cracked.
I think it may have been the

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Eddie Diaz Pink Pony Club risky
Business scenario that finally

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leaked onto my Tumblr dashboard.
And all of a sudden I was like,

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well, all right, we're eight
seasons in.

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It's going to be done anyway.
Like, let me just start.

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I'm here now.
I'm I'm here.

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I'm here and I am in pain
because I have now officially

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started and have fallen in love
with ATV.

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Show that isn't finished you.
Have doe dived?

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I always forget that dove is not
a real word.

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You have dived in so fast.
Oh my gosh, it's been like that

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thing that happens to divers
when you go, when you sink too

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quickly and you doesn't have
enough oxygen.

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Yeah, yes, you're going to
experience the bends coming up.

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You know what?
It would not surprise me.

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Yeah, Yeah.
So the this these are going to

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be a series of bonus episodes.
It's not going to be 911 on the

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rocks simply because we do not
have the time.

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We have jobs.
You have a life.

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I don't.
OK, I'm correcting her to say

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it's not 911 of the rocks yet.
It's yes, fair.

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It's not 911 on the rocks yet.
So.

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Because we have to finish Glee
before I fucking die.

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We do have to finish Glee and we
just, we just wrapped up Season

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3B of Pack Dynamics.
That's it.

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That's recorded.
It's recorded.

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It's in the can.
So we have seasons 4-5 and six

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of Teen Wolf left to go still.
Plus the movie.

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Oh my God, we have to watch the
movie.

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But that's only one episode.
That's it.

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That's.
Only one episode, but then we're

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done.
And so we still have a lot of

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content to go before we get to
911 of the Rocks.

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But depending on how many
feelings and thoughts and stuff

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we manifest over the next like
hour or so, we it may be on the

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IT may be on the agenda,
frankly.

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Yes, So yes, and and the first
seasons of 911 are short.

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You know, there are 1012
episodes, so that does go

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faster.
But yeah, we, I know that we are

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so behind on Glee and we
apologize.

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It's just that you know, some of
those episodes are bad and it's

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hard to get through when you
have newer loves in your life.

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Better TV, Better TV to watch?
OK, better.

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Different.
Different TV.

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Different TV.
Is 911 better?

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I don't yes.
I don't know why it is.

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Well, it is better because it
doesn't hurt as much yet.

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Yet yes, we.
So for those of you who are just

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tuning in the timeline as we see
it right now, we have just

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finished the mid season season 8
finale.

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So we have just closed out 8A
and we will be back in I think

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four months with 8B.
Which is OK.

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And there are scheduled 18
episodes of season 8 of 911.

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So it's this is they're not
equal haves and they're not

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really defining them as 8A and
8B, right?

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So this is a this is a winter
finale, which is like a new

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phenomenon.
It's not quite mid season, but

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almost.
Yeah, it's a whole thing about

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like ratings versus the holidays
and when are people watching And

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like, it's a whole thing of
because sweeps don't really

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happen anymore, right?
I kind of wish they did because

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like networks really pulled out
the big cliffhangers for sweeps.

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I'm sorry, are you saying that
the that what happened at the

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end of 88 wasn't a big
cliffhanger?

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Are you saying that like a
bigger board hanger?

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Eddie Diaz making life caltering
decisions is like.

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So a bigger cliffhanger would be
the next episode of 911.

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For sure which they preach.
Which they.

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Yeah, which they previewed and.
With my third born daughter,

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Maddie Buckley.
Yeah, we'll get to her.

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Well, we probably won't get to
her because this is like an

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intro to the what this is going
to be and what this is going to

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be is just talking about the
show.

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We're not going to talk about
every episode until we get to

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9111.
The Rocks.

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Which we, yeah, Emily and I have
very little self-control when it

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comes to this so.
Listen, if I didn't have a full

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time job, this is what I would
be doing.

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Dude I don't have a full time
job, this is what I do.

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I know, writing a fic finally
after like a decade.

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Yeah, so am I It's been a it's
been a journey.

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I apologize.
It's.

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All her fault.
So the plan is, you know, topics

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that we want to discuss, that is
a lame essence.

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We're going to talk about the
show, We're going to talk about

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the ships, we're going to talk
about the characters and the

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Ryan Murphy of it all.
Because it is so obvious that

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this is a Ryan Murphy show.
Even though given that it's

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season 8, Ryan Murphy's hands,
his little raccoon hands are

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probably miles away by now
because that man can't stay

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invested in a show past season
like 3.

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Yeah, he gets really good ideas,
but then he gets bored.

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He gets bored, he moves on.
Clearly he's on to Doctor

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Odyssey, but it's still Ryan
Murphy.

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He's still there.
It's in the DNA of it.

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Tim Minir, who's a long time
collaborator of Murphy Murphy.

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All I had with Doctor Odyssey in
my head of Murphy is the

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showrunner and creator,
executive creator.

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Yeah, every, every credit we get
Brad Falchuk and Ryan Murphy.

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And I'm like, oh, it's the Glee
cast, OK.

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Yes, and they were also the
creators, executive producers of

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the 911 spinoff.
Lone Star.

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Lone Star and they are
apparently creating a Lone

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Star's been cancelled.
They are apparently creating a

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third spinoff whose location is
TBD.

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The rumors were Las Vegas or
Hawaii.

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I think those are garbage
choices.

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I think it needs to be a small
town in a cold setting.

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Give me give me like 911.
Yeah, or 911 Twin Peaks, and

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you've got an X-Files crossover.
Outstanding. 911 Scranton Like

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somewhere cold so that you get
cars falling through the ice,

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you get frostbite, you get
avalanches, you get like a 22

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car pile up because someone
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hill.
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going over overpasses like.
Would be new and exciting bad

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things to happen.
Yes, exactly.

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Because Las Vegas, it's going to
be high rises falling over, it's

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going to be drought, it's going
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their hands stuck in slot
machines like.

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And then Hawaii is going to be,
you know, ocean stuff.

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Oceans and fires like I got like
they're going to be hot and

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lava.
But there's good there's.

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Lava in in the show, like I got
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Yeah.
Anyway, so today we are going to

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be doing like the the preview
today is the the intro page of

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the podcast.
I am going to ask Allison a few

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questions.
We are probably going to talk

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over each other and try to keep
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As best as she and I can keep it
together, If you're here, you've

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probably heard us talk before.
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If you haven't heard us talk
before, let me direct you to the

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like slew of articles directly
beneath this podcast to listen

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to our shenanigans.
If the algorithm, are there

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algorithms on Spotify and Apple
podcast?

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I don't know if the algorithm
somehow brought you to us and

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you've never heard us talk
before, so sorry.

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We love you.
Thank you for being here.

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This is how we talk.
If we love a show, we talk shit

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about it because if we love it,
we want it to be better.

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And we want to participate I.
Want to?

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Participate I am a Not that this
is relevant at all, but I'm a

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big pro wrestling person.
I love pro wrestling.

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I'm what they call a mark.
I fall for it hook, line and

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sinker every time.
I'm here for the drama of it

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all.
And one of the things they talk

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about is something called heat,
which is the noise that an

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audience will make when a
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will do something.
So whether they get cheered or

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whether they get booed or
whether they, you know, as as

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long as you're making noise, you
can have good heat or bad heat,

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but as long as you're getting
the audience to interact and

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participate, it's good.
OK, That's.

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My theory of fanfic.
Like the thing that you don't

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want is for them to like present
a thing, like a match in the

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ring or a promo or some
something and the audience is

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just dead.
It's just crickets, 'cause it

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means they don't care.
They're not invested in the art

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that you've made.
And so whether we love it or

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hate it, you want to feel strong
feelings.

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It's the ambivalence that kills
you.

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It is.
And so we will shout and scream

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about things that we adore.
Apparently my third and 4th born

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sons manifest in this TV show.
They do.

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They do, and then the things
that we hate because there are

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some choices that they've made
that are dumb as hell, but it's

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about being engaged and
involved.

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If there's something that you're
passionate about, it means that

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the circle continues, the
transformative circle, the works

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that come out, the interactions,
the passion stays around and

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that's what's important.
That's what we're excited about

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and excited to share.
Yes.

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And, and that coincides with my
theory of fanfic, where if the

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show is like perfect, you're not
going to write about it because

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it's done, it's complete, it's
whole.

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There's no reason to continue
your interaction with it.

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Right you.
Have to if it has, if it has

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flaws, you're filling the gap.
So the fact that there is oodles

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of fanfic around 911, it means
we're invested because you want

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to fill the gap.
We want to fill the gap and

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whether or not it's, you know, a
permanent gap or an on purpose

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gap is we're finding gaps.
One of the things that I love

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best about the 911 fandom is
that it is weekly television, as

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opposed to something like The
Umbrella Academy, which takes 8

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episodes and just dumps them in
your lap.

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You're not quite as 'cause you
get all the gaps filled and then

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you can kind of go back and fill
some gaps or whatever.

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But like these writers and these
givers and these, these, these

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vidders, there's so many AVS
going out, it's incredible.

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But they are getting little bits
of story every week and they're

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being inspired to like what's
next?

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How do you fill those gaps?
How does this, what happened in

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this episode, fill the gaps from
4 episodes ago?

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And it doesn't matter whether or
not they're right.

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You know, it doesn't matter
whether or not anything happened

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after the Risky Business Pink
Pony Club moment.

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It doesn't matter because in
that moment we could fill it

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with whatever we wanted.
Yeah, and as long as the rest of

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the fandom isn't being like, no.
Yeah, well, that's about fandom

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behavior, and we'll do a whole
other podcast on that.

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Just don't.
Just don't be weird, guys.

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Don't be weird.
Keep it in your living room,

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keep your group chats.
Don't be weird.

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Freaking stop it.
Keep it off the streets.

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Keep it off the streets, keep it
off the streets, keep it off the

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streets.
But I have gained so much

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respect for so many people in
this fandom and just the

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creative power and process
that's coming out of it, and so

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much of that is drawn directly
from the fact that this is

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weekly TV.
Yes.

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And they understand what a
cliffhanger is, and they

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understand little sprinkles.
They get the sprinkles.

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And you get, you know, given
what happens at the end of this

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last episode, episode 8, Ouch.
Like the anticipation of a

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midwinter break.
You get fandom creations like

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it's, it sucks that you have to
wait for another episode, but

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like you fill the you fill the
time with content.

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And like, let me tell you the
number of things that I have

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seen about like, I guess it's
our countdown.

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It's day 104 until the spring
finale.

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Like I'll be paying attention
isn't the I think the I think

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the spring premiere is March
6th.

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Something like that, yeah.
And I'm paying attention.

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I will be ready.
This is the time.

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I did this is the time.
Yeah, this is the time you do

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fic exchanges and all that kind
of good stuff.

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Yeah, this is where, you know, I
found fic that was named for a

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song that I'm deeply inspired
by.

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And now I want to go and remix
like that song because somebody

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else tapped into the same thing
that I was seeing.

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And it's a big circle.
And because because it's a big

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circle, we're all getting each
other supported and excited

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about the things to come.
Yeah.

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I love it, I love it.
Is the good?

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Is the good shit.
It is the good shit, all right,

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but you had questions, my
friend.

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Yes, and we might have answered
some of them, but the first

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question to pose to you is when
did you start watching 911?

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So when did I start watching on
purpose?

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Yeah.
Sure, about two weeks ago.

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About two weeks ago, I started
watching on purpose.

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I think it was because so at the
end of, I think it's 86, I think

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Eddie Diaz, my, I guess 4th born
son has this Risky Business

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moment where he completely
copies the Tom Cruise

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choreography from Risky
Business.

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And it's just such a sweet fun
moment.

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And my timeline exploded.
My timeline has like, or my

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dashboard has not been
particularly 911 coded, but for

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whatever reason on that night,
it just took over.

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It completely took over.
And I was like, well, OK, I

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guess I'm invested now.
And so I started dipping my toes

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in.
And then whether or not it was

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the algorithm or like the Amazon
gods or like whatever, but I saw

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911 pop up on my Disney Plus.
Okay.

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And I was like, hi, I guess it's
on Disney Plus.

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And so I went into season 8
because I wanted to watch the

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episode where the pony club
moment came in.

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I keep calling it that it's
risky business, but in my heart

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of hearts, it's Pink Pony Club.
And they have they have season 8

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episodes one through 5.
And I was like well okay so I

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can't get this one but like I
can try this.

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And I started with season, I
started with season 8, episode 1

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and blazed through season 5 or
season 8.

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I blazed through those first
five episodes and within like

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half an hour, I was completely
enamored with absolutely every

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single character that works at
the 118.

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Absolutely enamored.
I was in love with Cap and and

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and and Chimney and Hen and Buck
and Eddie and I was just, I, I

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was in like, I guess Tommy and
bits and pieces.

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I was in source, I was in source
old and I was like, well, OK.

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And it spiraled from there.
What I have been trying to

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reconcile is I lived with Emily
in 2018 when this premiered.

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And I remember the TV
commercials and if you see the,

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if you see like the, the trailer
for season 1, it's like Peter

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Krause who plays Captain Bobby
Nash and Connie Britton, who

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plays Maddie Clark, who's the
911 operator.

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And so, and the whole preview is
just picking up the phone 911,

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what's your emergency?
And people like screaming for

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help on the other side.
And my at the time, unmitigated,

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uncontrolled, unmedicated
anxiety was like, absolutely

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not.
No, thank you.

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I can't handle this.
And so as I go back through now,

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I'm halfway through season 2 in
my in my first watch through,

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some of the scenes and scenarios
look familiar.

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And I'm like, oh, I guess I was
in the living room when Emily

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was watching this back in
2018-2019.

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Oh.
I mean, to be fair, I watched a

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lot of stuff just like on my
laptop in my room.

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Yes.
You didn't look to like scar me

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or anything, but like every once
in a while there was something

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upstairs and I was like, Oh
yeah, I remember this happening

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when it was happening live, but
it's been going on for what is

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that six years now?
Yeah, yes.

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And I'm just now really starting
to tap into it.

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How about you?
I don't remember if it was the

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first or second season.
I feel like it was the first,

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but those years are a blur.
Anything that happened in New

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York is a blur.
Correct, Just like in Glee.

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Literally.
So it was somewhere in the very

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beginning.
Because if you say here's a Ryan

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Murphy show, but it's disasters,
I'm going to be like, hell yeah.

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Yeah.
Whereas I was like, ha, no thank

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you.
Yeah.

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So I was like, yeah, I'm going
to watch that because like, I

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watched Grey's Anatomy.
I watched ER, back when I was a

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small child who probably
shouldn't have been watching it.

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I watched Rescue 911.
I don't know if you know what

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that is.
It sounds vaguely familiar.

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It also sounds like a show I
should not be watching.

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So so Rescue 911 was a docudrama
like it was a documentary, but

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they did reenactments hosted by
William Shatner.

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Outstanding.
Oh, congratulations to William

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Shatner on going Canon, by the
way.

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OK, going Canon, William
Shatner.

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I yeah, it didn't didn't, didn't
Spock, Kirk and Spocko Canon.

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Oh, I assume that was like,
always Canon.

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It should have been always
Canon, but I think they went

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like Canon a couple a couple of
days ago.

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Oh sperk sperk sperk.
Canon 2024.

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I think, yeah, well.
I mean the DESDL meme didn't

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tell me.
Right, the DESDL meme I think

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died with the election in 2024
so.

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I think that's true, yeah.
Which is, I think that's how I

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got all my World News.
Yeah, I think it had something

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to do with one of the books.
I don't know.

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I'd have to go back and find it.
Yeah, it popped up on Tumblr and

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I was like, isn't this always
true?

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It should have been but.
Yeah.

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Shout out to our fandom 4
mothers who knew.

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Exactly.
But yeah, so Rescue 911 was a

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docudrama in the, if not the
80s, at least the early 90s,

448
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,480
where it focused on like first
responders and the emergency

449
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,680
calls that they did.
And then it just like ran

450
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,840
through the call, right?
So the 911 call and then how

451
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,880
they responded and like into the
ER or something.

452
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,720
So I watched, I watched that
shit as a kid.

453
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,560
As an impressionable young child
and adrenaline speaking medical

454
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,240
drama.
I don't know why I didn't go

455
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,280
into the field of of this,
probably because I'm not that

456
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,360
good at math and I just knew
that I would never pass the chem

457
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,440
classes to become a paramedic or
a doctor.

458
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,800
I actually think being a 911
worker would be interesting like

459
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,680
a a dispatcher.
I just, I would probably cry all

460
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320
day.
I think that that would be among

461
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,840
my least favorite jobs of all
time.

462
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,560
Yeah, like I, I, Maddie cries
every episode and I think that

463
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960
would be me as well.
Yeah, for sure.

464
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,400
For real.
So yeah, I started, I started

465
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,800
the show real early.
Also the cast, I mean Angela

466
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,280
Bassett and Peter Krause are in
it, so I'm like hell yeah.

467
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,280
They're so good.
Yeah, so it was an easy show to

468
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,120
get into.
And then Ryan Guzman shows up in

469
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,920
the second season and Buddy
appears and you're like, well,

470
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,880
you got me again.
You got me shit.

471
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,720
The the the secret cast, you
know, hook that really got me is

472
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240
kind of Choi.
Oh, he's adorable.

473
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:35,320
He's like a secret weapon.
He's a freaking secret weapon

474
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,320
and I love him.
But many, many, many, many moons

475
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:44,480
ago, there was a Disney Channel
Original Movie called Halloween

476
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,120
Town.
I remember this.

477
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:49,080
Remember Halloween Town.
Yeah.

478
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,120
And rumor has it, and I could
probably check it out, but, you

479
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,400
know, I don't.
Yes, I was correct.

480
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,640
So Kenneth Choi plays the plays
a role in Halloween Town.

481
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,800
He is like the cool creature who
sells the, the brooms.

482
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,640
And I'm like, so you're telling
me that I have loved chimneys

483
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,440
since I was like 11 years old?
You're telling me that I've been

484
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,160
obsessed with Chimney Han since
I was like 11 years?

485
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,200
Like, that tracks.
OK, Fantastic.

486
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600
And just the cast is so good.
It's so good.

487
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,960
Do you want to know something
awful about Kenneth Choi?

488
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,280
No, I don't want to know
anything awful.

489
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160
He's a he's has to be a precious
pumpkin, otherwise my whole

490
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,480
life's gonna fall down.
He appears in an episode of

491
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Glee.
That doesn't surprise me.

492
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,920
Which one?
Showmance.

493
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,560
He's Doctor.
He's one of.

494
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,320
He's the doctor.
That that delivers Quinn's baby.

495
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,200
Yeah.
Really.

496
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Oh man, I gotta go watch that.
He's in there for like 30 what,

497
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,760
15 seconds?
Maybe.

498
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800
Yeah, outstanding.
The common thread.

499
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,400
The thread ties us all together.
The you know the string, the

500
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800
red.
String of fate as OK.

501
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,160
The red string of Ryan Murphy.
So there's.

502
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,920
I don't considering the.
Carol.

503
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Considering the Carol Hudson
guest stars in She's like in

504
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,400
episode of season 2.
And I OK spoilers for people who

505
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520
haven't moved on.
She reappears.

506
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,360
She keeps on.
She has.

507
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,200
She comes back for a multi
episode arc with her husband

508
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,120
Norm.
Good, I hope she survives.

509
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:33,680
As as much as I I hate that Ryan
Murphy reuses so many actors so

510
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,840
often because I think I think
one, it actually keeps younger

511
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,920
new talent down, right?
Like he populates his universe

512
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,240
with the same people and it
prevents these shows that get a

513
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,680
lot of attention from exposing
new actors, right?

514
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,720
And.
He, he has selected people who

515
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,480
are not necessarily the the
greatest talents out there,

516
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,200
right?
I'm not going to name names

517
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,680
because everyone your mileage
may vary.

518
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,280
And you?
And we all know that neither

519
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,120
Emily nor I would be good
replacements.

520
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,160
What?
Are you talking about I'm a

521
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
great actor?
I am a terrible actor.

522
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,520
I am I I.
Would hate it.

523
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,120
No, I don't want to be an actor
in any way, shape or form.

524
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,960
It's.
It is a lot harder than it

525
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,320
looks.
But it's awful.

526
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,400
No, terrible, but you know,
reusing the same American Horror

527
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,440
Story as an example, reusing
some of the characters.

528
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,160
Fantastic idea.
Great by like the ninth season.

529
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960
You're like, Oh my God, OK,
Jesus isn't.

530
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,960
Sarah Paulson in like 6 of the
nine seasons.

531
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,000
Yeah, and she's one of the ones
where I'm like, get her the fuck

532
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,840
out of here.
I'm so tired of her.

533
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,080
It's great, but like.
I'm so tired of it.

534
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,680
It's the same person.
It's the.

535
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Same person every time and and
then the first couple times

536
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,720
you're like great.
And by by 9 and 10 stop, I'm

537
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840
done.
Like bring in some new people

538
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,200
and or like skip seven seasons
and then bring her back, right?

539
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,680
Like everyone over and over.
No, bring her.

540
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,680
OK, whatever.
Now, if it were Kathy Bates,

541
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,640
sure anyway.
But giving Ryan Murphy's ability

542
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,680
to give actors a shot is great.
Like, like giving Kenneth Choi

543
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040
this guest part and then, OK,
he's been rehired.

544
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440
Like, it's a double edged sword,
right?

545
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Yeah.
Because his shows are populated

546
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,760
with a lot of Pocs.
Yeah, they are.

547
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,400
And that's fantastic.
It is actually one of the things

548
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,400
that struck me in Season 1 of
911.

549
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,240
It's not weird or bad.
It's it's in fact very, very

550
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,560
good.
But it does strike me, Yeah.

551
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,600
And I was like, this is such a
choice and I'm it's perfect.

552
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,080
It is so it's for me because it
is a choice.

553
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,240
You don't just.
Stumble into it like any Any

554
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520
actor who has ever looked at
casting notices will tell you

555
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,240
when they say any race or
ethnicity, that's not what they

556
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160
mean.
That's not they just mean they

557
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,040
have to put that on there so
they don't get in trouble.

558
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,120
That's not what they mean.
And the fact that this show is

559
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,880
populated by SO, so many
different people who look so

560
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,600
many different ways is really
striking in the best of ways.

561
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,320
It.
Honestly is and there's times on

562
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,960
screen where it's like Hen and
Karen and.

563
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Denny.
Denny and, like, their whole

564
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,400
family and like, there's not one
white person on screen.

565
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880
Yeah.
And there's like, OK, great.

566
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Great.
Fantastic.

567
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,600
And that, yeah, I love it.
Now they need to stop fucking

568
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,480
around with Hen and Karen.
Leave them alone.

569
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Leave those ladies alone.
They have been so much.

570
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,640
They deserve the entire
universe.

571
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Leave them alone.
There'll be like a scene with

572
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Hen and and Eddie and Chimney,
right?

573
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,160
And like not a white person to
be found.

574
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,840
Not a white person to be found.
It's fantastic, it's so good.

575
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,080
So Eddie or Murphy is a a double
edged sword for me in his

576
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,200
casting 'cause it's like yay and
also.

577
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Yeah, And you know, at some
point I think we're going to

578
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,280
have to do an entire episode.
Just there's a scene.

579
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,040
I think it's in season, either
season 7 or season 8 with one of

580
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,800
the 911 operators who talks
about the impact that Glee had.

581
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,800
Oh, that's season 8.
It just happened.

582
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,920
It's before Glee and after Glee.
Yeah, it's before Glee and after

583
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Glee.
And like, on the one hand, is it

584
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,960
masturbatory for a Ryan Murphy
show to talk about another Ryan

585
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Murphy show in the way it
changed the world?

586
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Yes.
How however?

587
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,720
He's not wrong.
He's not wrong and the the the

588
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,080
children on the Internet have
been disagreeing about that.

589
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,920
They're like he, it's just a
stupid child like it is and.

590
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,440
And also.
And also the number, like I was

591
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,640
talking about about it to
somebody today and talking about

592
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,840
how Bert Hummel for a lot of
queer kids in our generation was

593
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,160
the first time they've ever seen
a parent on TV take a coming out

594
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,680
well.
Yeah, that Bert, He's president

595
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,000
now, right?
Oh, he'd better be like Bert

596
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,880
Hummel was the first experience
that a lot of those kids had

597
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,640
with somebody coming out and it
turning out OK.

598
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,720
And so like, you know, we look
at this and like, oh, well, you

599
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,440
gotta forgive what they've done
in a in a pre Glee world.

600
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,520
But like, actually for a lot of
millennials, especially the ones

601
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,800
who are in things like theater,
they're in things like dance,

602
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,120
they're in things like show
choir where your sexuality may

603
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320
be a little up for question in
bits and pieces.

604
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Like this was a thing.
This was a tool that we use.

605
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Yeah, it was, and it was
important.

606
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,080
Yeah, unfortunately Glee was God
damn it.

607
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Yeah, I know.
Sorry dude.

608
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
OK, so I guess we can go to the
next question.

609
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Yeah, which I got.
I think we covered it was why

610
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,360
did you stop, watch, start
watching?

611
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,720
Sorry, my fault.
Because it took over my Tumblr

612
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,840
timeline, it took over the
dashboard, it took over my

613
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,960
dashboard.
And then all of a sudden, like I

614
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,760
learned that Emily is also into
this thing.

615
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,760
And I was like, oh boy, here we
go.

616
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Here we go one more time.
That's right.

617
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Yeah.
No, it, it, it snuck up on me.

618
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,120
It's like falling in love.
It was like slowly and then all

619
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,960
at once.
Never read that.

620
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,920
I mean no, that that's the fault
in our stars.

621
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,800
It wrecked me every time.
OK, So next question, it's it's

622
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680
not a two parter, but they are
two separate questions.

623
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,800
So this is who are your favorite
characters slash storylines on

624
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,160
the show like Canon?
Because the follow up is like

625
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,160
characters and tropes in fic.
So like, not what's happening in

626
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,480
people's brains and in the
tropes, but like on the show

627
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,960
with the storylines, like what
is happening in the text.

628
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,200
So to clarify, I know what
happens in the show based almost

629
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,240
exclusively on Tumblr.
I have seen the entirety of

630
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,560
season 1.
I think right now I'm on season

631
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,720
2 episode like 14, and then I've
seen season 8 episodes one

632
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,320
through 5.
So I don't have yet a complete

633
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,719
textual understanding of the
document so far.

634
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920
You're farther ahead than I
thought you would be, honestly.

635
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,000
I got through a couple of
episodes today, frankly, let's

636
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:27,679
be real honest.
So I am head over heels, head

637
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,520
over heels, in love with Maddie
and Chimney.

638
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,320
Great.
Chimney is a soft boy who just

639
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,560
wants to be good.
He just wants to take care of

640
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,080
people.
He just wants to be funny.

641
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:49,239
He just wants to help and he
falls in love with like, Maddie

642
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,280
Buckley, who is going to be just
who's breaking out from these

643
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,280
real awful, horrible things.
And the two of them together are

644
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,160
just so good.
And I love them.

645
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,720
I love the almost instantaneous
father son relationship between

646
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:10,600
Captain Bobby and Buck.
I know, I I thought, I thought

647
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640
they were kidding.
I thought the Internet was

648
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,560
kidding about Bobby being Buck's
dad.

649
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,240
And they are not kidding.
They're not kidding.

650
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,280
And I just, we're going to talk
probably in several episodes

651
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,640
from now about Bobby and the the
family he had and then the

652
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,360
family he's trying to build and
the families that he receives.

653
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,960
And is it a fair comparison?
No.

654
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,160
Does he deserve what comes to
him?

655
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,280
Like, I don't know.
It's a.

656
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,840
Complicated.
It's a complicated question, but

657
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,880
he loves Buck and takes care of
him like a son and it's really

658
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,920
hard to reconcile.
But it makes them both so happy

659
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,400
and I just, I love them so much.
I love them so much it.

660
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,960
Is insane that the main
character of this show is a

661
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,080
murderer A.
Straight up murderer and an

662
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,720
alcoholic.
Like.

663
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,880
A.
Bra bro OK, what what kind of

664
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080
murder is this?
It's not aggravated.

665
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,600
It's what second degree because
he didn't it wasn't intentional.

666
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,920
It was, I mean, it's.
Yeah, I don't know.

667
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,280
What's the other word?
It's not on purpose.

668
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,480
Murder.
Manslaughter.

669
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Manslaughter, I think.
Types of murder I don't.

670
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440
I don't know, there's some, some
lawyer can come on here and tell

671
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,320
us exactly what he should be
charged with and the fact that

672
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,800
he wasn't charged for it.
Did he not tell anybody like I?

673
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,760
I don't think he was charged for
it.

674
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Third degree.
Oh, maybe it's manslaughter.

675
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,480
I don't unlawful killing that
doesn't involve malice

676
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,400
aforethought.
Yes, unlawful killing that

677
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,800
doesn't involve malice
aforethought.

678
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,600
He didn't mean to.
He didn't mean to, but like he

679
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,240
did a.
Little bit, yeah.

680
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,840
And so the complications of
Bobby Nash is just a whole other

681
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,520
thing in and of itself.
But I love Maddie and Jimmy.

682
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,760
I love Buck and Bobby.
I love Eddie Diaz.

683
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,360
I.
Love Eddie Diaz.

684
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,560
I.
Will fight you for him.

685
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,720
I My first born son is Derek
Hale of Teen Wolf.

686
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,240
My second born son is Luther
Hargreaves from the Umbrella

687
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,120
Academy.
You.

688
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,000
Can have him, I don't know him.
And then I get Buck because I

689
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,760
get Buck in season 1, but then
Eddie comes in in season 2 and

690
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:29,440
Oh my God, Eddie, baby.
Like that man has so many things

691
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,160
happen to him and then he
decides to take them and make a

692
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,520
bunch of choices.
And whether or not I agree with

693
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,960
those choices, I probably would
have made similar choices.

694
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,880
And it's just like that man and
his entire character like arc is

695
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,840
a telenovela in in absolutely
every way.

696
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
And he is so interesting to
watch.

697
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:57,440
And like I am I I am excited to
get excited about Buck and

698
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Christopher.
Haven't haven't gotten there

699
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,920
yet.
That really takes place in

700
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,040
season 3.
But like, I am so ready to get

701
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:11,160
there in Canon where Eddie's
aunt is like, dude, this my my

702
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,880
nephew is raising his son alone.
And Buck goes, OK, I'll compare

703
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,120
it with him.
Yeah.

704
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,400
And I am so ready to see Buck
and Christopher and that father

705
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,160
son relationship that they
build.

706
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040
I'm so ready for it.
As soon as Eddie's like, I have

707
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,040
a kid, Buck goes.
I love kids.

708
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480
I am seeing, I am seeing
interpretations of the texts

709
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,240
that are like Buck doesn't love
children.

710
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,200
I'm like my friends, have you
seen Season 1?

711
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,200
My my Bros in Christ, my Bros.
In Christ.

712
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,720
I don't.
I don't like children.

713
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,040
Like everyone knows this about
me.

714
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,800
Well, OK, the the nuance of this
is I don't like children's

715
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,680
parents.
Oh God, no parents the.

716
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Worst, do you know what I mean?
Like kids themselves, what it is

717
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,920
about them is they're loud and
they're messy and.

718
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,080
They're sticky.
They're.

719
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Sticky and like I don't even
like my own hands being sticky

720
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,000
as a whole thing.
So like, I don't like other

721
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,960
people's bodily fluids and their
stickiness and they smell their

722
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,680
fault.
They're just kids, right?

723
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,800
And like when I'm grossed, you
know what I mean?

724
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,800
Like I don't want other people's
gross, but like kids can't

725
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,760
regulate, right?
So you just have to do they have

726
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,120
to learn it.
But I don't like kids parents

727
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,920
and kids don't come without
their parents.

728
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,520
So it's like a whole thing.
It's a whole thing.

729
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,320
But like kids on their own, you
can generally like steer them

730
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,200
better.
Like if a kid is by itself,

731
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,280
you're like, all right, we can
work with this.

732
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000
I can make you better.
The scene where Buck gets the

733
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400
little girl out of the claw
machine and then.

734
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Gives it a little stuffed cow.
Face the entire time.

735
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,400
I don't know if that's actor
bleed and if Oliver Stark also

736
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,880
loves children or if that's just
excellent acting.

737
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,200
I don't know what it is, but
that scene I could watch

738
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,880
9,000,000 times.
It is so cute and so soft when

739
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,320
Buck in season 1 gets the baby
out of the pipe.

740
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,880
Yeah, even.
Though his first instinct is to

741
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,240
like slice it open.
Yeah, idiot.

742
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,000
Like he is so immediately
protective that.

743
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,200
When they open the truck full of
those people that have been

744
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,120
locked inside and the father
hands his son to Buck, and Buck

745
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,080
is like, yes, I will care for
this child, other people.

746
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,960
Trust him.
Other people trust him with

747
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,640
children.
Buck freaking loves children.

748
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Buck loves kids and the act the.
The little girls who play G like

749
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,560
the actor, so like clearly he's
got good vibes for kids.

750
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Like they wouldn't, you know,
kids know when you're a Dick.

751
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Yeah, kids know like it is.
It is so clear.

752
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,200
And I just can't wait to see
that actually happen in Canon.

753
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,560
But yeah, so and also I just, I
can't not shout out, shout out

754
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,600
Henrietta Wilson and her entire
family of preciousness.

755
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,960
I freaking love Hen.
I love her.

756
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
I love her.
I want to be in on the Hen

757
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,680
Athena wine night.
I want to be there.

758
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,280
Yes, their friendship is
fantastic.

759
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,040
It's so special.
It does get forgotten about a

760
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,240
little bit and then it luckily
comes back a bit in Season 8

761
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,200
because it's there are not
enough just solid female

762
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,360
friendships in media.
Right, and this is a solid

763
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,520
female friendship.
Yeah, because like, their

764
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,880
friendships aren't going to be
rocked by men because like, she

765
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,240
don't give a fuck.
Don't know.

766
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,240
It's like, no, whatever.
OK, Yeah, I loved you.

767
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,240
Now I love you.
Then like, let's go.

768
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,640
Let's go.
Yep, so I love their scenes

769
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,880
together and there's a lot of
fic where Eddie joins Wine

770
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,000
night.
God bless.

771
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,160
So I like I kind of want to see
that, but I also don't want like

772
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,680
men interrupting their why night
so he can have like special why

773
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,640
night.
I think it would have to be a

774
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,160
why night that comes to him.
Yes, it well, it would be like a

775
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,520
Maddie, Karen, Hen, Eddie.
Why night?

776
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,360
Yeah, but it would be like, you
know, Maddie hears from Buck

777
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,080
that Eddie's kind of spiraling.
And so Maddie and Karen and

778
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,840
Athena and and Hen just storm
the gates and it's like, look.

779
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,080
Hey, it seems like you're about
to jump off a bridge.

780
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Can we help you?
Can we help you with that?

781
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,200
Like it sounds like you need a
friend right now.

782
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Like, let's talk about it.
Totally.

783
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,720
They're so special, they're so
special, they're all so special.

784
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,040
And hen and chimney and the
like, because I've just, I

785
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,160
finished hen.
Hen begins and chimney begins.

786
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,400
And just the.
Way that their relationship

787
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,200
builds over time and like the
steadfast determination that

788
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,280
that Chimney has to take care of
Hen because nobody took care of

789
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,640
him.
And like, I just I love them.

790
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,640
This is a bond.
This is a bond forged I this is

791
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,560
forged family, forged family.
And I just, I love them so much.

792
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,000
I love it.
Those are such good episodes.

793
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,640
They're so good.
But yes, so for me, the the

794
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,560
emergencies are less important.
For me, I guess what's important

795
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,320
are the relationships that each
character is dynamic and

796
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,920
interesting on their own, and I
love seeing them cross and

797
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,080
interact.
How about you?

798
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,640
Obviously Buck and Eddie I like.
I haven't really gotten there

799
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:07,000
yet, but I'm ready.
I love them separately so as a

800
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,040
duo they work for me.
Dude, I mean like.

801
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,920
Oh yeah.
I think that's why the ship

802
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,480
works for people, that it works
for the people who are like, I

803
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,600
don't see it.
I think are being obtuse,

804
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,680
obstinate and obtuse because
like.

805
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,320
OK, we'll.
Talk back, we'll talk some.

806
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Of that in a minute, so sure.
So Buck is such a fun character

807
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,480
for me because he starts out
they they name him in the show

808
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Buck one point O and two point O
like they are aware that he has

809
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,160
made big changes in his life.
And I think that was purposeful.

810
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,200
I think they set out to do that
from the jump.

811
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,840
So Buck one point and and I
agree.

812
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,560
I'm someone who I think it's bit
cunty of me, but I do think if

813
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,720
you're going to be actively
involved in a phantom, you

814
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,680
should probably engage with the
text.

815
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,200
And I know there's a whole.
It's not transformative if you

816
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,520
don't read the.
Text, right?

817
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:07,800
There's a whole set of people
and maybe there are people

818
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,800
listening to this podcast and
like, this is not a hate

819
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000
statement.
This is just a me statement.

820
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,800
But there's a whole section of
people who just like in

821
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,720
participate in phantom but don't
watch the show.

822
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,080
And I don't get that.
I I I don't get that.

823
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,120
It's it's how I got into this.
Like so I started seeing pink

824
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,120
pony club on my dashboard and
then I read fic and I was like I

825
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,440
can't read this in good faith
without string text.

826
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,160
That's the thing about fanfic is
that it's a shortcut.

827
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,600
You have to if if you're reading
fic, you're it's.

828
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,040
It really is the difference
between like fic and a novel.

829
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,800
Fic usually doesn't have the
back story of the character

830
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,200
because you don't.
Need it right, you don't need

831
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,680
it.
And so like I had gotten

832
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,520
probably 50,000 and words into
FIG before actually getting to

833
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,720
engage with the text.
So I'm looking at the things and

834
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,400
based on my time in Glee and on
my time in Teen Wolf, I'm

835
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,320
looking at the at the at the fig
and going like, well, based on

836
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,680
the number of times that this
specific thing occurs across

837
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,480
FIG, this must be Canon.
Yeah.

838
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,480
And so getting kind of using my
critical thinking skills to pull

839
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,480
textual analysis from the fic,
but then I have to go and I have

840
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,160
to go and absorb the source.
You have to.

841
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,840
I mean, you don't have to.
You don't have to, I just think

842
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,080
you I find it more.
Fulfilling.

843
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,560
I find it more fulfilling.
I think you get so much more

844
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,400
depth like and and and it's that
thing of like if you don't, if

845
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,000
you can't love Evan Buckley as
one point O, you can't love him

846
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,160
as season 8.
No, right?

847
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,840
Like if you don't love season.
One is I like I knew guys like

848
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Buck one point O in college.
Would I have dated them?

849
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,280
No would I have slept with them?
Probably not, but would I have

850
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,440
gone up to them at the formal
and hugged them big because

851
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,240
they're just good dudes?
He's trying speaking, they're

852
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:00,400
trying.
He's.

853
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Cute.
And he's trying.

854
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,320
You're he's trying.
And did he succeed?

855
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Absolutely not.
Did he do stupid things like

856
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,440
only really when it came to his
job?

857
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,720
Yeah, I mean like.
Buck's never been cruel.

858
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,680
No, he.
Obviously has parent issues.

859
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,880
His sister leads one of the
worst lives he left home.

860
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,600
He felt well he actually didn't
know as Buck went 1.0 why his

861
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,480
parents were the way they are.
He learns that later.

862
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,880
But he's always felt like an
outsider in his own family.

863
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,720
He runs off.
He actively tries to get hurt

864
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,120
doing dangerous things so his
parents will pay attention to

865
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,920
him.
He goes off to be like a

866
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
bartender in Costa Rica or
wherever the fuck he was.

867
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,240
He does all these weird jobs.
He's a ranch hand, like trying

868
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,800
to figure himself out, and
that's like a common story for a

869
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,840
lot of people.
Yeah.

870
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,200
For sure, but he's not, he's not
like he's a bit of a douchebag

871
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,320
for how he treats women, but he
is trying to feel something,

872
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,640
right?
Like the whole firehose thing.

873
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,080
Even that it like he doesn't
seem to in my reading of season

874
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,040
1 he doesn't seem to like the
lady that he's in a relationship

875
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,960
with.
Like he's just sold.

876
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,280
Oh.
But his hookups, his hookups are

877
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,520
like set up as hookups.
Yeah, Buck is so into Abby that

878
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,640
he waits for her after she
breaks up with him.

879
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,800
He just doesn't see it.
He just doesn't know it.

880
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,320
And she's a twat for doing that.
Like she just leaves and doesn't

881
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,960
tell him.
It doesn't tell him like it.

882
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,400
Yeah, I have a lot of feelings
about Abby Clark.

883
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,840
Let's.
We'll talk about that in a

884
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,680
minute.
Like.

885
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Well, I mean well, we can't make
this a nine hour episode.

886
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,120
I.
Mean we can't it's Ryan Murphy,

887
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,040
but it'll.
Be another episode.

888
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,560
We'll talk about it later.
It'll be the relationship

889
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,960
episode.
Oh goodness.

890
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,800
This is the This is the intro
episode, do we?

891
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,840
Need to do we need to switch
from Canon to fanon?

892
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,520
For for buck.
For your question.

893
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,240
Oh, well, no 'cause I have like
Eddie.

894
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,560
Well, you talked about Eddie.
I love Eddie.

895
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
I love.
I mean, I, we talked a little

896
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,200
bit about Cap.
I, I am just endlessly

897
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,640
fascinated by his character arc,
I kind of think.

898
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:11,640
I think the writers didn't
really, they didn't really think

899
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,480
about the consequences and like
what it means to have a

900
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,600
character with that back story.
It's rough because like, the

901
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,840
thing about his particular back
story is like, he can absolve

902
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,520
himself all he wants.
Yeah.

903
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,640
He can go to church, he can work
through his alcoholism, he can

904
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,800
do all the things that he does.
But like at the end of the day,

905
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,120
there are real physical
consequences to his actions.

906
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,440
And I'm so far.
In the text.

907
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,320
So far in the text, he hasn't
been held accountable by those

908
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,560
There's there are.
Some accountability things for

909
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,840
it, but like I, he's not like,
arrested.

910
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Yeah, he's not arrested.
He's not held in like a

911
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,680
mandatory like rehabilitation
program.

912
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,800
I personally, just to add to the
suffering, would like to see

913
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,560
Marcy's parents come in and
confront him.

914
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Sure.
Yeah, that's not going to

915
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,600
happen, but sure.
To make reparations in the only

916
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,480
real way he has left.
Yeah, that, that sure don't

917
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,720
happen, but.
No it doesn't but and it won't.

918
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,280
But like he he seems to escape
any kind of outside world

919
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,360
consequences which like doesn't
feel super right.

920
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,720
It doesn't.
There's something that comes up,

921
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,480
I don't remember what season.
It should be coming up pretty

922
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,200
quick for you about some some
fall back from it.

923
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,920
Good.
Not that I want to see him

924
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,720
suffer, because I don't, but you
know.

925
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,840
And then there's a second, a
second fall back in Season 6 or

926
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,160
7.
But yeah, it's not like the cops

927
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,680
show up and be like, hey, by the
way, you did kill 140 some

928
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,720
people.
Row.

929
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,920
Row.
I like Maddie, I wish bad things

930
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,320
would stop happening to her.
I As much as I want bad things

931
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,920
to stop happening to Hen and
Karen, I want to just put Maddie

932
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,080
in her happy, beautiful little
apartment with her tiled

933
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,040
staircase and her corner
fireplace and her beautiful

934
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:13,400
courtyard and just like, put big
awesome guard dogs in front of

935
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,360
it.
Like stop letting things happen

936
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,800
to Maddie Buckley.
What's what's the last bad thing

937
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,880
that's happened to her for you?
She just killed her ex-husband

938
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,400
her.
Husband.

939
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,880
After being kidnapped.
Got it.

940
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,200
Got so that OK, yes, OK, great.
I wasn't sure if that had

941
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,000
happened yet.
And I was like, oh, about that

942
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,080
apartment.
She and the chimney just

943
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,840
smooched and it was very, very
soft.

944
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,040
And I'm very sad about her
apartment because she probably

945
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,880
can't go back there because it's
where she got.

946
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,320
I love that apartment.
I'll take it.

947
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,400
I'll.
Take it from you, it's fine.

948
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,120
It was mostly like, how the fuck
did she afford that one person?

949
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,360
Damn.
Because it's Glee.

950
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,320
Because it's Glee.
Yeah.

951
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,560
I was like, oh, it's so pretty.
And she just like, walked right

952
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,760
into it.
Fuck yeah.

953
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,480
I I have a lot of questions.
So for writing this fix that I'm

954
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,520
doing, I've been over
researching 'cause that's what I

955
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120
do.
Most firefighters have like

956
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,320
second jobs 'cause they can't
afford to live on a firefighter

957
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,000
salary.
So now I'm like, how do these

958
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,760
people live anywhere?
In Los Angeles.

959
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:19,840
In Los Angeles, like God damn
they Eddie has a house how is he

960
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,080
affording a mortgage like?
And paying Carla.

961
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,560
And paying Carla, well then I
was thinking like, is Carla like

962
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:34,680
a state?
Service like because of Chris

963
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,960
and whatever.
Yeah, like, is this an insurance

964
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,680
thing?
Does she go?

965
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,040
Yeah.
So then I was like, I can't

966
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,200
think about this too much or I
will explode.

967
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,880
OK, It will explode.
So let's move on to fandom.

968
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:49,760
What are your favorite fandom
like, character moments, tropes.

969
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,720
That that maybe are like too
much for Canon, Like what?

970
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,480
You know what I mean?
Like.

971
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,120
So we'll start, we'll start with
the obvious and then move to the

972
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,680
specifics.
So there was a text post I came

973
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,000
across a few like like last week
that I just put in the queue

974
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,360
talking about how as somebody
new to 911, you know, the OP was

975
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,800
like, I thought it was just like
Tumblr syndrome, you know,

976
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,960
there's two nice looking men.
They're on screen, they're close

977
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,520
to together.
Like maybe Tumblr is just making

978
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:30,560
things up wrong, wrong within
like the so Eddie shows up in

979
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:37,320
2/1 and from the drop you the
first thing you see of him is he

980
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,520
is shirtless.
He is putting a shirt on and

981
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,080
what a man is playing in the
background by salt and pepper

982
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,000
And like from the jump, because
they're not like the whole team

983
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,120
is there, but Buck is in the
center taking it all in and

984
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,520
feeling a lot of like angry
feelings about it because he

985
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,000
feels like he's the hot shit.
And now there's Eddie and Eddie

986
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,320
is really pretty.
But like, this is not

987
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,360
tumbleritis.
This is we are being spoon fed

988
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,600
from Canon.
And so, of course, what we're

989
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,600
talking about is, is the
fictional, currently non Canon

990
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,720
ship between Buck and Eddie,
affectionately called Buddy.

991
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:22,400
And like I thought, you know,
not that like Steric isn't real

992
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,520
in my heart, but we're we're
pulling stuff.

993
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,960
We're pulling little bits and
glances and and cuts and we're

994
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,200
leaping to conclusions.
There are no conclusions to be

995
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,560
leaping with Buck and Eddie, Not
at all.

996
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,200
I, if you were to take that
footage to a class of college

997
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,560
students and be like critically
analyze what's happening here,

998
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,480
they'd be like, those two are
fucking, or at least they will

999
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,240
be by the end of the season.
It is.

1000
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:57,400
It is truly wild the amount of
like development they have put

1001
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,760
in between those things.
So like later in season 2,

1002
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,880
Maddie calls out like, so this
does this boy crush on Eddie

1003
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,520
mean that you're over, You're
finally over Abby, you're ready

1004
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:13,560
to move out from Abby.
And then in season 7, we get

1005
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,000
Buck coming kind of coming out
of the closet.

1006
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,680
He's coming out as bisexual.
Like he's actually a Canon

1007
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:24,080
cannon Buck Canon buy Buck
style.

1008
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,240
Stilinski walked so that Evan
Buckley could run.

1009
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,360
And we go back to that.
And it's like, no, pumpkin, if

1010
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:37,640
you like boys, a boy crush is
just a crush that's a regular

1011
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,000
crush.
So like, all of the support

1012
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,560
system is Canon, all of the
evidence is Canon, and it is

1013
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,920
truly mind boggling.
Truly mind boggling.

1014
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,080
Before I get specific, do you
have anything you'd like to add

1015
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,960
to that?
They'll be cowards if they don't

1016
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,160
kiss.
Cowards.

1017
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,880
Just straight up cowards and
straight up cowards.

1018
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,880
Like the whole Catholicism
thing.

1019
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,760
Like if this is not a setup for
a coming out arc, what are we

1020
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,760
doing?
Like.

1021
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,840
I'm straight.
Yeah, I'm celibate.

1022
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,240
Who says that straight people
don't announce they're straight?

1023
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,240
Straight people don't announce
they're straight even just

1024
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,520
they're being hit on you just.
Don't.

1025
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,720
It's just.
Like, oh, I'm not interested.

1026
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:28,120
You're just like, no, thank you.
It's it it the fact that they

1027
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,360
had they literally in the text,
they had a conversation with

1028
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,520
Buck's, I think current
boyfriend, maybe in the process

1029
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,920
of breaking up with him.
Boyfriend Tommy talking about

1030
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,720
how he was in a relationship
with a woman and that breaking

1031
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:44,040
that she was his beard and that
breaking up with her was the

1032
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,160
most honest thing he'd ever done
in that relationship.

1033
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,480
And then in the same episode we
get Eddie talking to his

1034
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,960
Catholic priest about do you
know why I grew this mustache?

1035
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,640
It's because they wouldn't let
me grow a beard.

1036
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,320
So you're using it as a mask to
hide behind?

1037
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,840
Yeah, I guess I am.
Yes, you are.

1038
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,880
He looked real good with the
beard though.

1039
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,040
Oh my God, he would look so
good.

1040
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,120
But like the scruff.
The scruff gets me every time.

1041
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,560
But like, if this were happening
in real life, if these were real

1042
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,320
people that were having real
conversations, they are real

1043
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,440
thoughts and feelings.
Yeah.

1044
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,680
But if they were like, not
scripted, you know what I mean,

1045
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,320
then it would be funny
coincidences.

1046
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,560
But the fact that they wrote it
and they shot it and they edited

1047
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,640
it in and they broadcast it on
television means it's done on

1048
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,920
purpose.
Yes, that is our our frequent

1049
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,640
refrain about TV shows is that
like if it made it to screen,

1050
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,640
it's on purpose?
If it made it to screen, it's on

1051
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,880
purpose.
Like, like it went in too many

1052
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,920
hands.
It it went the, the few

1053
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,200
accidents that happen in media
are things like a Starbucks cup

1054
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,600
in the background that that's an
accident, right?

1055
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,800
These these comparisons are not
accidents, they are on purpose.

1056
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,720
It is truly mind boggling.
It's very hard to accidentally

1057
00:56:58,720 --> 00:56:59,960
edit something.
Yeah.

1058
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,920
So, you know, I I'm a
supernatural survivor.

1059
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,800
I've been cocked block for 15
seasons, I guess it could happen

1060
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,600
to me again.
That's it could happen.

1061
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:12,920
It could.
It sure could.

1062
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,600
Thing I you know, there's plenty
in in the show to be like, I

1063
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,480
guess it won't happen and Buck
will just be unhappy forever,

1064
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,720
forever left behind and feeling
not good enough for the people

1065
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,920
that he's with.
That's fine.

1066
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,640
That's a way you could play this
game.

1067
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,280
Honestly, I think that might
hurt worse than Buddy not going.

1068
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Canon sure is that they've set
Buck up with his abandonment

1069
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,920
issues for eight seasons.
I know.

1070
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,600
Being constantly left behind,
falling for people, getting

1071
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,600
friendships, having his family
over and over and over again,

1072
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,200
and then constantly being left
behind because he's not right,

1073
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,560
he's not good, he's not good
enough.

1074
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,840
And now Eddie's gonna be like,
bye, I'm going to Texas.

1075
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,680
And now Eddie's leaving his like
his like ride or die partner

1076
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,360
bestie of the last seven years
is just like, I guess you're not

1077
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:08,120
worth it to stick around for
like that Would it's it's if it

1078
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,320
happens, it's gonna kill him.
Yes it would.

1079
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,640
If it he's already.
On shaky ground, so.

1080
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,240
Shaky ground, poor thing.
But like, if that happens, if

1081
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,120
Eddie just like drops off the
face of the planet and moves to

1082
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,840
moves back to Texas, Buck is
going to absolutely lose because

1083
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,560
at this point it will be such a
pattern that he can't shake.

1084
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,000
And that just feels cruel for a
TV show.

1085
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:35,640
OK, but this is the show that
gave Hen and Karen Mara back and

1086
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,760
then immediately crushed Denny
under a car so.

1087
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,760
Yeah, but now Denny's fine, and
it lasted for an episode.

1088
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,720
Exactly.
But that's.

1089
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,600
So they'll send Eddie to Texas
for an episode and then he'll

1090
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,480
come back and not have a home
and he'll have to move into that

1091
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,560
fuck ugly loft with Buck and
their one bed.

1092
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,480
And their one bed, correct.
And if Eddie leaves for an

1093
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,560
episode or two, that's fine.
That's a narrative arc.

1094
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,360
I mean, I I will be very upset
and the fic will be delicious.

1095
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,920
The narrative.
Arc is Christopher being in

1096
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,480
Texas for this long?
Yes, and that's which is bad.

1097
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320
Parenting.
That's bad parenting, Ed Ed

1098
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,960
Mundo, what are you doing?
But I love that his name is

1099
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,120
Edmundo.
Me too.

1100
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,000
I fucking love it.
Because he's like, is it

1101
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Eduardo?
And it's like, no.

1102
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,760
And I'm like, OK, well then what
is it?

1103
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,200
And then Abuela Abuelita is like
Edmundo.

1104
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,000
And I'm like, Oh yes, what a
good, what a good name.

1105
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,200
I like it because I like.
It because.

1106
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,960
I like it because I have a lisp
and it's easier to say.

1107
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,680
Edito or edito?
No, both of them.

1108
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,680
Edito edito, leave the tongue in
the front.

1109
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,280
But yeah, so it just, I think it
would be almost crueler to have

1110
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,280
Eddie just leave it just
straight up abandoned Buck

1111
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760
forever.
And then he rides his motorcycle

1112
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,200
all the way to Texas to follow
him.

1113
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,560
I mean, that sounds great, but
like, you know, that's a

1114
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,360
different problem.
But like if you see if like the

1115
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,600
series ends and Eddie is just
left or not Eddie a Buck, it's

1116
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,720
just like left alone to Stew and
his abandonment, like that's

1117
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,320
just cruel.
That's just bad writing.

1118
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,960
It's bad writing.
We do promise this these bonus

1119
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,640
Eppos won't be entirely buddy
related.

1120
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,120
I I don't.
That's an Emily promise.

1121
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,600
I'm sorry, inclusive.
I mean, OK, we could, I could

1122
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,760
start talking other stuff, but
I'm, I'm not butt in the brain.

1123
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,760
We're in the thick portion of
this.

1124
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,400
We're in the fandom portion of
this.

1125
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,240
Karen and Hen being perfect is
Canon.

1126
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Maddie and Chimney being perfect
is Canon.

1127
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,480
Captain Bobby not really
processing his murder of 148

1128
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,080
people, including his wife and
two young children is Canon.

1129
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,720
I don't have to deal with that.
With with Maddie's second

1130
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,880
pregnancy, I do think it's funny
that between real life

1131
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,160
pregnancies for Jennifer Love
Hewitt and then the the show

1132
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,440
pregnancies, she's like always
kind of pregnant.

1133
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,840
She's always a little pregnant.
Because like she was actually

1134
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,160
pregnant but having to hide it
and then the character is

1135
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,440
pregnant and she wasn't anymore.
It's like back and forth, like

1136
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,400
got to time these better.
Got to time these better guys,

1137
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,120
but I'm sorry anything that
anything generally you want to

1138
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,120
say about buddy before I start
getting specific?

1139
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,480
No, not.
I mean it is, is good.

1140
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,320
I also like that it's not white.
White.

1141
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,760
Yeah, correct.
That's nice.

1142
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,960
That is nice.
I mean, it's like it could be

1143
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,800
better, but it's not white
white, so it could.

1144
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,200
Be better.
But one of the things that I

1145
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,840
love so much about Steric is all
of the AUS.

1146
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:38,080
Steric and Klein both really
lend themselves to in every

1147
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,600
universe A use, yes, which I
love.

1148
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,200
What I love about Buck and Eddie
is that you don't need it.

1149
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,560
No, you don't need to reimagine
this scenario.

1150
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,840
It's it's juicy enough just as
it stands.

1151
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,880
I will say 1 gripe.
This is a this is a me gripe

1152
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,760
with the fic that's out there.
This is a what it what's the

1153
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,240
right not as quick it's not as
quick.

1154
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,400
It's a I can't remember the
terminology at the moment.

1155
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,760
We'll start talking and we'll
find the word.

1156
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:13,760
It's a it's a me issue is a lot
of the longer fix that are going

1157
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,080
through their relationship will
include every single disaster in

1158
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,720
the show.
Every cannon like.

1159
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Every cannon event and it's like
you.

1160
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,200
Fire truck.
The tsunamis.

1161
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,520
Like and and like because
they're trying to include every

1162
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,240
single one.
None of them carry any weight.

1163
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,800
Right.
Because in the show, it's like,

1164
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,400
you know, you spend a year in a,
in a season, right?

1165
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,640
And a week per episode.
But when you're reading a fig,

1166
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,480
it's like, here's a paragraph
and then a chapter and like, OK,

1167
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,920
this is this is too much for one
story.

1168
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,880
Yeah, that's fair.
You don't have to run through

1169
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,000
all of these tragedies.
You can make it like a light AU,

1170
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,560
Yeah, where some of these things
have happened or one of these

1171
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,720
things have happened, and it's
still builds that bond for them

1172
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,000
without needing everything
that's happened for them.

1173
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,840
Yeah, I can.
I can feel that.

1174
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,360
Because then it then for me it
starts to feel like they're all

1175
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,520
the same.
Exactly.

1176
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,040
And that I do that I do
understand.

1177
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,160
Yeah.
I I've been feeling.

1178
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,200
I've been feeling that one.
So that that's a personal like I

1179
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,440
don't it happened in the show.
I I kind of just infer that it's

1180
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,000
happened to them.
If it's a non AU fic, like I

1181
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,840
just kind of you have to tell me
it happened.

1182
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,240
I kind of assume it does.
I I believe you.

1183
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,280
It already happened.
It's cool.

1184
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Yeah.
You don't.

1185
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,160
Have to tell me the whole
scenario again because like

1186
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,040
unless you say otherwise, it
happens.

1187
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Like, yeah, of course Buck has
to get patted down at airport

1188
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,880
security because of course he
always has metal in his leg.

1189
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,200
Of course, he doesn't have to
tell me.

1190
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,160
That's not what they're you.
Don't have to tell me that that

1191
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,560
happened, I know that it
happened.

1192
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:01,400
OK, but but what they're not
doing is like the long lasting

1193
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,320
effects, right?
Like they're going through the

1194
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,960
the the disaster and not the
trauma.

1195
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160
Like, why on earth would you
like?

1196
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,120
Like you need to write about
Buck and Eddie finally going on

1197
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,960
vacation, but Buck can't get in
the pool.

1198
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,040
Why can't Buck get in the pool?
Why does he like?

1199
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,520
Eddie's been shot 4 times.
Yeah, he has.

1200
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,400
Once in the shoulder and then I
think it's three times during

1201
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,040
his.
Tour.

1202
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,560
Yeah.
It was like that helicopter,

1203
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,640
that helicopter.
I think it was all in that like

1204
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,640
scenario like.
When it when it went down, When?

1205
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,720
It went down like that, man.
People die from a single gunshot

1206
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,200
wound.
Yeah, and he's been shot 4

1207
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,920
times.
Like it's there are real things.

1208
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,600
And like I know it's not the
makeup departments fault, it's

1209
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,080
the directors choices, but like
that man's torso does not look

1210
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,960
like that.
No, boy, it does not.

1211
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,280
And frankly, I personally would
love if his torso was a mess.

1212
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,880
I I'm disgusting.
Give me those gunshot scars.

1213
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,920
And those are not.
Pretty Auck got struck by

1214
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,400
lightning.
Give me that Lichtenberg figure.

1215
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,160
Give it to.
Me fortunate is I did the

1216
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,240
research and those disappear in
like 72 hours.

1217
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,280
So like he wouldn't, he wouldn't
have that, but his leg would not

1218
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,520
look pretty.
Oh no, his leg should look

1219
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,720
mangled.
So like and I think they said

1220
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,320
that the screw, the screws were
taken out because that helped

1221
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,600
stop the blood clots.
Yeah, that tracks.

1222
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,080
But he should still have a a a
beam, a pipe in his leg.

1223
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,960
He's still a pipe.
He does still.

1224
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,400
He should still have a rod in
his leg.

1225
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,200
Yeah.
He.

1226
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,600
They hurt.
These people should hurt.

1227
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,320
Yeah.
And they're in their mid 30s

1228
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,280
now.
Or, well, canonically, God knows

1229
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,320
how well they are because, like,
stuff has changed up until just

1230
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
now when they said that Buck's
birthday was Oliver Stark's

1231
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,400
birthday.
And like, OK, I guess that's his

1232
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,040
birthday now.
I guess OK, here we go.

1233
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,160
It's like, oh, so they're the
same age because Ryan is older

1234
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400
than Oliver, but now their
characters are the same age and

1235
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,960
you're like, OK, fine.
Whatever, whatever, it's fine.

1236
01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,560
It doesn't.
Matter.

1237
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,000
But yeah, the the fic authors
and I, God bless them, write as

1238
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,120
much as you want.
Do it.

1239
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,040
I want all of it.
I want to read it all but.

1240
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,520
But I think at the moment
there's a lot of focus on

1241
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,280
getting the the disasters on the
page.

1242
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,480
But but like, I'm a gross
gremlin.

1243
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,160
I want like, I want the the
trauma after.

1244
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,600
Like how does that shit OK?
Like I've had a breast

1245
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,680
reduction.
Sometimes it still hurts and

1246
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,640
it's been 20 years, right?
Like your nerves hurt.

1247
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:34,080
Like that shit doesn't go away.
And he's been shot 4 times.

1248
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,240
Like sometimes that body is
going to hurt in the morning.

1249
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,560
They get flung around during
their emergencies.

1250
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,080
Like sometimes they spend what,
4 hours fighting a fire?

1251
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,600
Where's the I?
So again, I like I did.

1252
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,800
Because he's after putting all
that weight on his leg for so

1253
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,560
long, like he's going to be
limping around the Firehouse.

1254
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,240
I've been doing deep dives into
Reddit just to see like what

1255
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,040
real firefighters are like.
So I've been in like the

1256
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,040
firefighting subreddit.
They live in ice baths.

1257
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,640
Where are my ice bath scenes?
Not only just to see them

1258
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,040
without their shirts on, but
like, where are my ice bath

1259
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,400
scenes?
For real, like chimney.

1260
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,600
I've just, I'm just now Chimney
has been in.

1261
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,560
One of the things I'm most
impressed about Season 2 is that

1262
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,360
they've kept the scar on
Chimney's forehead the whole

1263
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,600
time.
So far.

1264
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,880
And I'm just so impressed by
that.

1265
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,560
But this man just got stabbed a
lot.

1266
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,320
He went through traumatic
abdominal surgery.

1267
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,960
Like, he's not shitting.
He should be messed up.

1268
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,800
Yeah, that man's not shitting
into a bag.

1269
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,400
What's happening?
Like what?

1270
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,200
Like what is happening?
Like I I'm such a sucker for it.

1271
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaking of things I am an
absolute sucker for in ficc,

1272
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,320
specifically in buddy fic, you
can you can pry praise kink Evan

1273
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,240
Buckley from my cold dead hands.
He does like to be told he's a

1274
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,600
good boy.
He that is I it.

1275
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,760
It's the closest thing to Canon
without me being in Tim and

1276
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,680
yours walls like I.
You can take that from my cold

1277
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,640
dead hands.
Yeah, cold, dead hands.

1278
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,040
It seems right.
It feels right.

1279
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:03,120
It feels so right because he has
been abandoned and left behind

1280
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:09,640
and not good enough forever.
And that is going to be like a

1281
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,760
secret or not so secret key that
gets turned and he's like oh, I

1282
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,520
am loved, I am wanted, I am
beautiful, I am good enough.

1283
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,040
Take it from a cold, dead hands.
Cold, dead hands.

1284
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:24,479
Yeah.
So, you know, I've, there's,

1285
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,760
there's plenty happening in
Victoria that I'm like, yes.

1286
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,760
My goodness.
This is an hour and 15 minutes.

1287
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,120
It sure is.
If you want, if you, dear

1288
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,800
listener, want to talk with us
about 911, or about Eddie

1289
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,359
potentially moving to El Paso
like a like a person who's

1290
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:46,040
making choices, or about real
life consequences for Captain

1291
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,080
Bobby Nash and his apartment
fire, or if you want to be

1292
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:53,319
invited to Hen and Athena's wine
nights, please come talk to us.

1293
01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:57,319
We are on the Internet at
Phantom on the Rocks and we want

1294
01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:00,240
to talk to you.
I there there is no set cadence

1295
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,840
to these bonus episodes.
Apologies for people that want

1296
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,840
like a show dropped every
Tuesday at 8:00.

1297
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,479
That if you don't know by now,
that's really not how we roll

1298
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,800
except for Pack dynamics, which
does have a set schedule because

1299
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,600
we're somehow so much better at
that than the others.

1300
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,279
So those are getting edited and
will be flying once more.

1301
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,800
But yeah, these will be as we
have the time.

1302
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,640
We have so much that we want to
talk about for 911.

1303
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,840
So we will.
If you have questions about 911

1304
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,279
that you want us to answer,
that's probably a good way that

1305
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,200
we can run these bonus episodes.
We will probably ask each other

1306
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,439
episode or questions of like
stuff like we did today.

1307
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,760
Those are my questions for
today.

1308
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:48,560
Those are like the intros.
So maybe we'll try to write out

1309
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,359
other questions for the next
episodes.

1310
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,920
Maybe that's a good way to
structure because we don't tend

1311
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,360
to structure episodes because
we're not professionals.

1312
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,200
No, we're not.
We are professional fans though,

1313
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,640
and that's the point.
Talented amateurs.

1314
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,680
I haven't been paid for it yet.
Talented amateurs.

1315
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,760
Have no sponsors.
Now if Joaquin Sedilla wants to

1316
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,920
sponsor us with his presence.
We would love to talk to you,

1317
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,920
Joaquin and I.
You got I, I will bake you an

1318
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,760
apple cobbler.
I'll put your name on it and

1319
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160
everything.
If Oliver Stark wants to talk to

1320
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,960
us about his photography.
OK guys, he is, He is.

1321
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,120
That man has got such an eye for
photography it drives me

1322
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,880
bananas.
He is so good at any single

1323
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,240
human person who is listening to
this and follows any of the cast

1324
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,960
on Instagram.
Keep it off the streets.

1325
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,800
Keep it off the streets.
Be.

1326
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,320
Nice, don't get weird.
Don't get weird, I want Oliver

1327
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,800
to take my picture just so I
would look nice.

1328
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,360
Oh my.
God.

1329
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,800
I just want like a nice picture
of myself.

1330
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,800
Like, you know, we could just
have like a day and just hire

1331
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,480
like I would love to hire him
just like as a photographer.

1332
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,080
Oh my gosh, he's so.
Good.

1333
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,840
Like a new headshot for work.
Like, could you just make me

1334
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:58,920
look nice?
Yeah.

1335
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,840
Can you just like follow me
around and I'll pay you?

1336
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,440
Come photograph my wedding Like
come do.

1337
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,360
Whatever.
That would look so pretty out in

1338
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,360
the mountains.
Yeah, like, come do, come do

1339
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,720
photography, just Oh my God.
But for real, guys, for real.

1340
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,040
But off the streets fandom has
kind of a rough, a rough

1341
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,440
reputation.
Keep it off the streets.

1342
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,880
Remember, they are people and
parasocial relationships are

1343
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,720
real and they are difficult.
And you've gotten they've gotten

1344
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,480
bad, so.
Like keep it off the.

1345
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:30,680
Streets, guys, lock it up.
Lock it up, lock it down.

1346
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,120
Keep it off the streets.
Come talk to us about it.

1347
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,880
We are not the streets.
We're not the streets you bring.

1348
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,920
Bring your weirdness over here
and we'll bring your weirdness.

1349
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,800
Bring your RPF, bring whatever
it over here.

1350
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:43,920
What?
Bring it over here.

1351
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,200
We'll, it's for us.
Whatever weird shit you wanted

1352
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,120
to tweet at the actors, just
bring it this way.

1353
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,360
We'll absorb it.
We'll turn it around.

1354
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,080
We'll take it with.
You and we'll talk about it with

1355
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,720
you.
Keep it, lock it down, bring it

1356
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,200
over.
Don't take it to the streets.

1357
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,640
Keep it off the streets.
Great.

1358
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,080
I had a great time today on your
side for our next bonus.

1359
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,880
Don't worry, we'll be back with
Glee.

1360
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,320
It's we're haven't forgotten
her, even if we try, because

1361
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:10,920
we're going to make it to the
end.

1362
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,000
We are.
I swear to Ryan Murphy.

1363
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,920
So Atchison, Topeka, Santa Fe,
spectacles, testicles, wallet

1364
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,160
and watch.
We will be back, I guess.

1365
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,920
Yeah.
Bring us your questions, your

1366
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,240
thoughts and comments.
So yeah, we'll catch you next

1367
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,520
time for these 911 bonus
episodes.

1368
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,840
And maybe I'll just put, like, a
little siren.

1369
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,280
No sirens and podcasts are bad
because it makes you like turn

1370
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,160
around in your car and think
there's someone following you.