Bonus Episode: 9-1-1 Mini Series #2

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I hit the button and I have no
intro other than to say hello

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and welcome back to this Fandom
on the Rocks and 911 bonus mini

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episode mini series.
I Am Emily.

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And I'm Allison.
And we're going to freewheel it

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through this second episode of
our miniseries where we just wax

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all things 911.
Because you know, you get on the

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phone with your friends and
you're like, Oh my God, did you

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see this thing?
And then all of a sudden it's

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been 90 minutes and you're still
talking.

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And so we talked to each other,
but we also want to talk to you,

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so.
And it's frankly, you know,

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we've, we've been texting our,
our poor thumbs have been

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reworked into texting appendages
since, you know, I don't know,

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20 years, but frankly, it's just
much easier to talk into a

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microphone.
So much easier.

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You know, we've, we've adapted
through many different types of

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phones and texting apparati, but
talking is faster, so we're just

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going to do this instead.
Indeed.

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And while I can't put a bunch of
emojis in my voice, I, you know,

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I can't put tonality into text,
so you know, it's 6 1/2 dozen of

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the other.
It is.

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No, that's different, Yeah.
English doesn't really do

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tonality.
It's not really different.

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Languages actually kind of do
put emojis in their voices,

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don't they?
Yeah.

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They do, in a strange way that's
kind of interesting to think.

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About English can, but it's
mostly if you're an emotive

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speaker.
That's the no, Yeah, yeah, no.

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Yeah, no, no, yeah, tight,
tight.

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Simply an emoji in a word Tight.
If tight were an emoji, I don't

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even know where to start.
Tight.

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All right.
Well, Speaking of things that

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are tight, well.
Not gonna say it.

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Not really.
I'm not going there.

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I'm just not going there.
I could, but I'm not.

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That's that's.
Not even too early.

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That's for me and my bookmarks.
OK, guys, Yeah.

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That's between me and my AO3
bookmarks.

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You know what though?
It's not because if anyone knows

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our AO3 accounts, those
bookmarks are not private.

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No, they're not.
So you know, go enjoy.

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I hope you have fun.
If you get attached to Starek on

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the way in, we're we're still
here.

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We got a whole podcast about
that too, and season 3 on the

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way because they're getting
edited.

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Yay, but no.
So let's see what has evolved in

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our own personal 911 fandoms
since the last time we recorded.

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I know I was gonna say you have
blown through some more episodes

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is what's happening.
I am now like a third of the way

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through season 5.
Right now the Grant Nash family

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is preparing to prepare to to
preparing to propose to David.

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Love this for them and it does
occur to me that his name is

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David Hale.
And I was like, fantastic,

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that's Derek's dad.
What a weird mash of family that

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would be.
That would be a very interesting

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the the Grant mash Derek Hale
hassle.

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Derek Hale would make an
excellent firefighter paramedic

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though.
Correct.

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And nobody could scare Uncle
Peter straight like Athena

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Graham.
Absolutely.

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So I'm OK with that.
That to you?

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Loving it, but that's where I am
right now.

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So we've gone all the way
through the tsunami arc, all the

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way through the shooting arc.
I'm so sorry.

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Do I think about I want in terms
of buddy?

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Of course I do.
I mean, we can't really let the

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shooting arc go unaddressed.
They do.

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They do, which is bananas.
Like there was a text post on

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the Internet talking about how
there I think now are more post

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shooting episodes with Eddie
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they still haven't talked about
it like in a real way.

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Yeah.
Like gentlemen.

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I know it.
This remains the first,

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Literally the first word that
came to mind was bugaboo with

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this show.
And that's because I'm old as

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dirt.
These poor people are thrown

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through so many situations and
nobody talks about it.

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And they occasionally have a
therapist and you're like, no,

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I'm sorry.
He was sniped in front of his

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husband and they're not talking
about it.

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And they're not talking about
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He bled out on the streets of
Los Angeles and Buck had this

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man's blood in his mouth and
they're not talking about it.

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What do you want me to do with
that information?

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As even a can even casual
viewers just let that go?

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I don't understand.
I know we're not casual viewers

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and that's a difference, but can
a casual viewer let that go?

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They must, right?
They must.

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They must I've.
Never been a casual viewer of

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the.
TV show like.

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I don't understand.
And it's just, it's just to me,

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it is wild that they don't ever
talk about any of it, any of it.

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I was talking to one of my new
delightful fandom friends about,

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you know, well, you know, some
people are really good at

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writing the sex stuff.
Some people are really good at

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writing the like, emotional
fluff stuff.

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And I just need them to talk.
And I'm sitting here going like,

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yes, he's literally just your
blower boat lock him in a car.

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Just lock these two men
together.

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No touching, just talking.
Keep your hands to yourself.

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After you've spoken.
Where's the episode where?

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Well, I mean they've already
been sort of kidnapped and they

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didn't have a conversation like
hands tied, they're back-to-back

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to a pole, half kidnapped
conversation, 5 minute scene.

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What are we doing here?
Like, I just.

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You remember I was there, right?
Yeah, I remember you were there.

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You didn't see me.
No, I saw you.

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Like, come on.
Dudes.

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Dudes.
My dudes.

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My special friends.
My special friends.

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What are we doing?
Something else we were talking

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about, and I just want to like,
smooch their big beautiful

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brain, is that, you know, we're
all talking the fandom at large.

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We're talking and bubbling about
the Eddie coming out arc now.

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Whether or not he ever does, I
don't know.

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But looking back at it now, kind
of re watching it for the first

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time and looking back at the
things that I've seen, his

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almost everything he does can be
either explained or made better

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by him being not sexually
attracted to women.

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Literally all of his choices
still make sense.

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Some of them make more sense.
The way he reacts to trauma

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makes sense.
Some of it makes more sense.

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And we were talking about like,
I just need a Buck or Eddie

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begins again.
I needed, I needed, I need

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another one.
I I love a straight man having a

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panic attack at the thought of a
woman.

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Like it's not, it's not even
just a woman.

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It's like, is this woman
attached to your family?

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Eddie has like 30 seconds before
he just like passes out on the

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ground.
Just fully incapacitated by the

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thought of of this person being
part of his family.

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Like where he literally gave
custody of his child to his best

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friend.
I don't understand it.

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I don't understand it.
So either the writers are having

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psychotic breaks in the writing
room and just don't know what

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they've put down on paper.
Or they're writing the greatest

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like 9 season.
Will they?

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Won't they ARC of all time?
I mean maybe, maybe there's a

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Glee style gas leak happening in
the writers room and they just

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don't know what they're doing.
Perhaps.

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Maybe.
But no, I'm, I'm holding, I'm

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holding an obscene amount of
hope for something that isn't

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going to happen.
But in my little heart of

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hearts, we get an Eddie begins
again where he kind of whether

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he's talking to Frank or if he
gets hit on up by a guy in Texas

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or it if it's his coma dream
when he gets crossed.

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By his tree.
He's going to he's getting

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crushed by a tree and having a
nice coma dream.

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I don't know what it is, but he
goes back and is like

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reminiscing about all of the
compet throughout his life.

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And then, because Joaquin Sidio
loves us and wants us to be

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happy, the episode ends with
just like 10 minutes of

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flashback of unseen shot footage
that Joaquin was doing the doing

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the thing the whole time and
that there's just like a bucket

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of unused footage.
Yeah.

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Of the two of them.
He just keeps it on the hard

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drive at home.
You know what?

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It was a.
Little part over it just says B

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+ E and it has a little.
Little heart on it Little.

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Heart on it.
But that would be such an

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interesting thing.
I so it'd be so interesting.

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And am I smashing my blurbos
together?

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Of course I am.
This is what Blurbos do.

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This is the point.
I maintain that Eddie would not

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have married Shannon had it not
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Correct.
That's not like his greatest

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love.
No, no, literally as someone who

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has been in love in before in
their life, never once does it

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feel like you're drowning in
melted chocolate.

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Yes.
Never once.

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That's the sign you need to get
divorced.

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That's the sign.
What is it he says when they're

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sitting around a table with like
hen and he's like, I feel like

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I'm performing.
Yeah.

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Are you budding?
Feels like a performance.

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Yeah, OK.
A little special friend there.

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Does it bud?
Does it?

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Does it?
Does it's?

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Not something Buck has ever
said.

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No.
And you know, you watched

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Chimney and Maddie fall in love,
you watched Bobby and Athena

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fall in love and none of this,
none of this feels fake or acted

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or not.
Huh.

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Huh.
Odd.

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How about that?
So.

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Weird.
How about that?

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And I mean, we can go on for an
eternity, an eon an epoch of,

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you know, is Eddie straight?
Does it matter?

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Does it matter if he's gay?
Does it matter if he's just not

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straight?
Does it matter all the little

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different flavors and shades
that queerness can take on?

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I mean.
It doesn't.

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It doesn't matter if they've
been doing it on purpose.

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Exactly.
It does matter if we're doing it

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on purpose, but if this is just
how they're writing him and his

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clearness is inherent, then we
get to kind of figure it out

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because it changes.
Of course it does.

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That's how that's that's how it
works.

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You get new information and then
you make a new judgement based

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on the new information.
Do I like men?

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Huh.
I don't really know.

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No, probably, do I?
Then I get this particular man

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in front of me going like yes.
Yes.

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Do I like?
One man do I like one man?

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Yes, I do like oh, OK, and then
maybe this has I kind of have to

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figure it out.
Well, I didn't like him last

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season, but I like him this
season.

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I wonder what changed Like I
just I need I need somebody to

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go through it with him because
it is he is just a struggle

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lesson.
Well, guys.

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Eddie Diaz has never had a good
day.

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Never once.
Which is the children's book I'm

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going to write.
Eddie Diaz and the always,

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always, always awful, terrible
day.

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Yeah, no good.
Very bad day.

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Poor guy.
Which is why this pre call, we

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were talking about squics.
It's not a it's not a squig.

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It's a what?
I don't think it falls under

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squig.
It falls under what are we

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doing?
Yeah, this this obsession the

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current fandom has with near
death experiences from both Buck

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and Eddie.
Like they've had them.

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Let them live.
Give these people a vacation.

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No, I, I know, I know.
You want them both to die twice

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a day.
I would like these two to go on

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a lovely Lake Tahoe vacation.
I would like them to have bubble

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baths and saunas and massages
and some like champagne and

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strawberries and to have a
beautiful little vacation and

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everyone else is like, fucking
kill them with trees.

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Like what is happening?
They've died twice each.

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What are we doing?
I haven't learned their lesson

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yet, Emily.
Literally like 90% of the fam is

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like fucking drop anvils on
their heads like give.

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Them, you know, if they would
just, if they would just learn

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their lessons, we wouldn't have
to do this.

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Every time I see NDE in a post
I'm like what are we?

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Stop it.
Let them live and kill

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Christopher while we're at it.
Like stop no.

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Oh my.
God, leave them alone.

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Yeah.
OK, You guys kill them.

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I'm gonna send them to Vail like
you.

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Should send them to Vail.
Everyone else is like, I'm gonna

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break their legs and do blood
transfusions in the fields and

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I'm gonna send them to little
cabins in the woods and.

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I am going to have Buck and
Christopher doing blood

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transfusions in the field while
Eddie is helpless on the phone

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and.
No, me, I'm sending them to

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Christmas tree farms and
everyone else is trying to

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murder them in the streets.
Jesus Christ.

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We could have, we we could, we
could do two things, OK.

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Apparently the dichotomy that's
happening is like, what?

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When did everyone decide that
these men needed to die again?

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Well, OK, I imagine that it's
like kind of directly

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proportional to what's happening
to them right now in Canon.

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It was like, I'm comparing it,
you know, as I do all things in

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my head to Teen Wolf.
And by the end of the series,

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like, we don't want Derek to
suffer anymore.

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He has suffered enough.
And so a lot of fick has him

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going to therapy and talking to
the betas and, like, being, you

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know, healed in the ways that he
can.

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And then once he does that, then
he gets the styles and

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everything is fine.
But like, the worst thing that

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happened to Buck this season was
he got a new boss who doesn't

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like him all that much, and he
got dumped.

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Yeah, because he's already died
twice.

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Exactly.
And so.

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He doesn't need to die every
season.

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He.
Doesn't.

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But I'm saying that I imagine in
the times where in fannin or I

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guess in fandom, when he's
getting struck by lightning or

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choking on bread or, you know.
Talking about something that had

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no lasting impact was his throat
was literally cut open on The

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Dirty floor with a dirty knife
and he doesn't have a scar.

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Man but like when bad things are
happening to him in Canon, I

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imagine that fan is nicer to
him.

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But by the scale of things on
the curve, he's had a really

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nice season 8 and so fandom has
to be a little meaner to him

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now.
It's a it's a give and take.

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It's a give and take.
I will take him to a lovely

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little vacation.
I'll take him to the Blueberry

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Inn in Vermont.
I just read a little Christmas

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fic where he's the Baker in a
like a little small Christmas.

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I read that too.
It needed to be 90,000 more

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words.
Correct.

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It was beautiful.
Did I send that to you?

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You did.
Good, I should have.

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It was beautiful.
You did.

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But he's just like he's that.
That's the soft life for him and

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that's good.
But I need, I need to, I need it

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to balance out.
It's the salt and the sugar.

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I need the sea salt and the
caramel.

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I need them both.
And I imagine that both Eddie

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and Buck are going to have a
very bad time in AB.

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And so like, maybe, maybe fandom
will be nicer.

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Every character on this show has
died.

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They've got to start hurting
other people.

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There are no other people to
hurt there.

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Are though there are the the
incidences there are the the

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calls, right?
Like this is the my Grey's

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Anatomy problem.
Like stop and that's the

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problem.
Stop hurting the characters.

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They can have other problems.
You don't have to murder them.

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They.
Can one of them was murdered.

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They can have emotional
problems, you don't actually

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have to put them in blenders.
Yeah, but it has to be the

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threat of the blender, you know?
They're literal firefighters.

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The threat is always there.
Yes, but in order for the emo

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dropping.
Fire trucks on them doesn't

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literally have to happen, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no.
If you're going to do the

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emotional drama, it can't just
be like, oh, he went into the

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fire to save a person.
Like, of course he did.

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That's his fucking job.
I was there.

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I'm always there.
We're together all the time, but

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it's, hey, this little kid looks
exactly like your son, who I

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have really strong paternal
feelings towards.

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And I had to make a choice in
that moment between you and this

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kid, and it fucked me up.
Yes, that is.

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The kind of like, that's the
kind of shit I need.

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Yes, absolutely.
And if they don't want to do

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that, then I'm going to put
these men in situations.

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But they should do that
situation.

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They should, they can.
They can fuck Eddie up

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emotionally until he actually
goes back to therapy and deals

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with his shit.
Until they talk about all the

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times they try to die.
They these people would be

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medically discharged so fast, so
fast.

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Oh my.
God.

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Metal in his leg He's out.
Chimney had rebarred through his

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skull.
He's out.

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I looked it up.
They're out.

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They're done.
Because accuracy and fick is

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paramount.
They're out.

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Would Hen and Eddie still be
still be like valid?

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Yeah, they're still good.
Yeah, unless, unless something

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happened with, well, I'm not
sure about Hen having hit

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someone with her truck for the
legal reasons, but.

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Yeah, but they, they, they, they
manifested that away.

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It was cool.
Medically, I'm not entirely sure

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because it doesn't look Hen I
think is fine.

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Medically, Eddie, I'm not
entirely sure because that

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motherfucker doesn't seem to
have gone to rehab for his

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shoulder and I don't know what
his range of motion is like with

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his shoulder.
Hasn't he now been shot in both

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shoulders?
Yes, yes, canonically he has

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been shot through both
shoulders, which it's not clear

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when you look at the footage
from the helicopter because it's

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so fucking dark and like jittery
because God forbid TV shows and

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movies give us well lit scenes.
But yeah, he gets shot through

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both shoulders and his hand,
which somehow he doesn't lose

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fingers to.
I don't.

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I don't.
Yeah, he doesn't seem to go to

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rehab for either incident, so
his range of motion should be

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shot.
Yeah, and then Hen's just been

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shot the one time, but it's an
old injury.

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She's fine.
That's an old injury.

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I think she's probably OK.
But Eddie, I would actually

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worry about that.
His range of motion would affect

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his ability to do the job to the
standard of the fire department.

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Right to carry to.
Carry.

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Those, yeah.
Because.

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Maybe, maybe, maybe they just
need to get a whole new crew

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'cause their crew is too beat
up.

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Everyone else is like oh the
118's on the job and the rest of

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the crew is like Oh no.
No.

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They can't.
Oh.

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No, Oh, no, no.
It's really interesting the the.

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Emotional destruction is great
because then the actors get to

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do fun crying and they get their
little pretty faces all emotive

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and and Ryan Guzman gets his
little quiver E little twisty

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face thing that he gets done.
His twisty face when he's trying

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not to cry, and maybe if he's
trying not to break, I don't

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know.
Because behind him, Oliver Stark

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is like making weird faces.
Like he's.

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That the whole cast is just like
making fun, but he's got this

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like twisty face where he like
twists his mouth together.

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And while it I'm trying to like,
you know, be nice about it,

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while it very well may be that
the actor just try not to break

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and it's, you know, it works for
the scene.

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It crushes me every time.
Yeah, I love the beautiful men

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who cry.
Even more than the tears, it's

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him.
It's Eddie saying like I, I'm

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the emotions are here and I'm
going to beat them back with a

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stick.
It is particularly prevalent to

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me in in season 6 do more
because his entire mouth is just

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like twisting and twerking
trying.

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Is he trying to break?
I don't know, but in my little

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heart he is trying not to just
openly break and sob do.

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You know what's nice about it
too, is like, he's, I guess you

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can't actually say anyone is
objectively beautiful because

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beauty is a standard across all
different cultures.

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So, like, I can't really say
he's objectively beautiful, but

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like, but he's not.
It's nice that men are allowed

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to ugly cry.
Yeah.

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And I wish women were allowed to
ugly cry.

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Correct.
Because like, I don't know, my

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one eye like closes completely
when I cry because there's like

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a weird nerve thing that
happens.

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But like, it's nice that he is
allowed to have like the runny

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nose and the red face and like
it's not a one single solitary

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tear politely running down his
cheek.

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Yeah, because like.
All.

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I think all of them have been
allowed to pretty, to be to

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pretty cry.
Yeah, but then there's also

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Buck.
Like screaming open mouthed

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snotty when he was under the
well.

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That.
Hurts.

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They've also gotten ugly crying.
I appreciate that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry.

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I'm gonna need a heterosexual
explanation for that.

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I'm gonna need one.
There literally isn't 1 and we

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shouldn't pretend otherwise.
I.

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Have so many questions and none
of them can be answered.

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Also Eddie checking out Buck's
ass in that one scene.

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Yes, you're welcome.
I was.

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I was going through stuff and
just giffing and I was like,

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hold on a minute.
And it's not like Buck is

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packing a lot back there.
I mean, it's taken Oliver Stark

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a little while to like, round
anything out 'cause he skips

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like.
That hard muscle to work OK,

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it's very well.
Especially when you skip leg day

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to only build up the top.
Now Guzman is all ass.

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It's true.
Lucky him.

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Yeah, but no, I just, I, I, I
have so many questions.

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I have so many questions.
Like, don't get me wrong, Fire

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Marshall Buck is in fact, you
know, a very good.

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That's that's a hot one.
It's a good one.

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It's a good one.
I love being there with a

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clipboard.
I do.

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But boy, Eddie, do I have some
questions for you?

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Listen, he was a soldier.
He is good at taking orders.

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Yeah, we're going to have a lot
of conversations about that one

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right there, talking about
living in the multiverse, like

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soldier, soldier.
I mean like yes, like let's do

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the.
Can't be in the army.

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He failed out.
He failed out of the SEAL

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training.
He did fail out of seals, but

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there are fixing which he
doesn't fail out of seals, so

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that's always fun.
But no, just the way that so

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many things can be true all at
the same time.

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Now, fandom, this fandom in
particular, the little buddy

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nugget of 911, feels very
strongly about stuff.

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They sure do.
They feel real strongly about

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stuff.
But that's one of the best parts

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of fandom is that like, in a
moment, anything can be true,

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and it doesn't have to hold true
from day-to-day until Canon says

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otherwise.
So it's like, are you deeply

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attached to sub Eddie because he
his entire life has been about

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taking orders and it's where he
feels most comfortable.

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Like fantastic.
Tomorrow are you going to wake

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up and talk about brat tamer
Eddie?

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Because he only after taking
orders for so long, he's

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desperate to feel in control of,
you know, anything that he finds

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whatever.
Like those, those things can all

456
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600
be true from day-to-day and it's
fine.

457
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,360
And it's like, we've got to
reintroduce Squick to the

458
00:23:58,360 --> 00:23:59,560
fandom.
We just have to.

459
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:04,000
Squick is the most delightful
way of describing a thing that

460
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,400
you personally don't like.
Not that it's bad, not that it's

461
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,960
wrong, not that even you won't
touch it, but just that you're

462
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,160
like, no.
It's just not for me.

463
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,160
Just not for me.
And the best part about it is

464
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,280
you don't have to even tell
people you don't like it.

465
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,960
You keep that shift to yourself.
Unless it's like your BFFI can

466
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,040
tell Allison that I don't like
something and it's fine.

467
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,680
Yeah, we had a fight about it a
few days ago and now we're here.

468
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Yeah, so.
'Cause it's not actually in a

469
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,280
fight, it's just me going no
thank you.

470
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,920
Yeah, and it's me reminding not,
and it's me politely reminding

471
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,800
you to use your tag blocker and
me a little bit apologizing for

472
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,120
all this stuff in my queue right
now.

473
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,000
That's what the tag blocker is
for.

474
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,320
It's mostly the tag blocker is.
For.

475
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,360
It's mostly that I just forgot
to set the tag blocker and I was

476
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:49,720
like what the fuck is all this?
Oh right, that was me.

477
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,320
Oh, right.
It's about the things that, you

478
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000
know, there's so much morality
in Phantom right now about like,

479
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,920
this is good, this is capital G
good, this is capital B bad.

480
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,560
And it's just about it's not
good or bad.

481
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,480
It's it's in fact morally
neutral.

482
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,760
They are fictional characters.
Let it ride.

483
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,360
Do we have to have more nuanced
conversations about RPFA little

484
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,640
bit?
Keep it off the streets.

485
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Keep it off the streets, keep it
off the streets.

486
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,640
And that's a slightly more,
that's a, that's a level up in

487
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,800
content and content creation.
It's a level up.

488
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,040
You got to be willing and able
to have more nuanced

489
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,120
conversations and have more
nuanced boundaries and, you

490
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:39,440
know, keep it off the streets.
But like if you like, I love,

491
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,640
for example, Eddie calling Buck
sweetheart.

492
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,000
I love that shit.
I love that shit.

493
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,280
And I have a friend who doesn't
that just like it squeaks her

494
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,040
and that's OK, That's OK.
It's I'm not the friend, it's

495
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,760
not me.
I don't care.

496
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,040
It's somebody else.
But we love, we love a squeak

497
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,600
because everyone should be
allowed to play in their own

498
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,880
sandbox with their own toys.
And if you don't want to play,

499
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,880
then that's OK and you can just
walk away.

500
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,560
It's too easy to.
Close the tab.

501
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,280
So easy, so easy.
And it's not your job to police

502
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,040
someone else's like kinks go
away.

503
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,160
Yeah, stop it.
Also, just a general please be

504
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,920
nice if ever you're in
somebody's bookmarks, be fucking

505
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,440
nice about it.
Oh yeah.

506
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,440
Be fucking nice.
I feel like we have this

507
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,520
conversation every couple of
years, right?

508
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:39,840
Like a fandom pops up, it's
populated with a younger crowd.

509
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560
A new group.
Learning how to navigate fandom

510
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,920
because we started in the
Trekkie days and beyond and now

511
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,240
those women are tired of all of
us and don't have.

512
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,480
They're just, they're done.
And it's a process of educating

513
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
and getting used to how to
behave in a space.

514
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,960
And unfortunately, social media
platforms like Twitter are not

515
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,640
the best space to learn how to
operate in a system.

516
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,120
Nope.
They're just not, especially

517
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,440
when they're full of trolls who
are just out there acting up

518
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,120
because they can.
Don't do that.

519
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,440
Also, the number one rule of
Internet is don't feed the

520
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,680
trolls.
I know it's hard.

521
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,680
Don't feed the trolls.
Don't do it.

522
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Block delete, move on.
But like, that's the joy of a

523
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760
Squick is like you like
something great, love it, and if

524
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,360
your best friend doesn't like
it, who cares?

525
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040
Who cares?
It's not your job to make them

526
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,600
happy unless you are actively
writing them a fic that they

527
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,880
asked for or didn't ask for.
If you are actively being like,

528
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,800
hey, I'm going to gift you this
thing, then that's the one time

529
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,280
where you're trying to make them
happy.

530
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,680
Hi Emily, I'm going to write
this thing that I know that you

531
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,280
hate and I'm just going to send
it right to you.

532
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,080
Yeah.
Hey, you know that pairing that

533
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,400
is of important to you.
I'm going to write it for you.

534
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,000
It's for you that that's not
what we're doing here, but it's

535
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000
me.
Any any other situation.

536
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,520
If you're going into someone's
blog and it has like the the

537
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,960
headline is a pairing you don't
like, you walk away.

538
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,360
You don't go to them and say
like, Hey, that's gross.

539
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,960
You shouldn't ship that.
That's on you to walk away.

540
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,560
That's why this whole tag of
like do not interact.

541
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,400
That's I don't fuck with that.
That's no what?

542
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,040
What is this?
It's your job to curate your

543
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,960
experience on the Internet.
Yes, it is your job to curate

544
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,320
your experience on the Internet,
not anyone else's.

545
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,600
It's no one else's business to
make you comfortable in a in in

546
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,400
a fandom like this anyway.
So you'll get older.

547
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,040
You'll figure it out.
Yeah, you just get older.

548
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,160
It's fine.
Speaking of things that are way

549
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
too serious and are going to
make us cry, does Bobby Nash

550
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,960
deserve his new family?
This is a topic we've been

551
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320
sitting on of like, hey, we
should talk about this.

552
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,400
How do we talk about this?
We'll just do it.

553
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,240
So like, OK, for for some
context, for like 1000 years of

554
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920
context, these are all fucking
fictional characters.

555
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,640
Hold, hold your horsies.
Hold your ponies.

556
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760
Bobby Nash is not a real person.
Bobby Nash is not a real person.

557
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,320
The people who died 100.
And 48 people who died of the

558
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,480
fire.
Neither are Athena Grant, his

559
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,320
kiddos.
OK, Not real.

560
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,720
None of them are real.
This is a this is a

561
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,720
philosophical exercise.
OK, guys.

562
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,240
Not, not real.
This has been bothering me since

563
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,800
the beginning of this show.
Bobby Nash and and it's no

564
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,760
judgement on someone who suffers
alcoholism and and addiction,

565
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,640
right?
Right.

566
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:42,480
But he did 'cause the deaths of
148 people and and it's like it

567
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,200
doesn't matter somehow in this
show.

568
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,880
That his like moral fiber
elsewhere kind of, you know,

569
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,120
squeaks like scrubbed his
record.

570
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080
And I think that's one of the
interesting things about Bobby

571
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,320
is that he spends at least the
first season and a solid chunk

572
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440
of the rest of the show in
penance for it.

573
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,800
Like especially in season 1, he
spends it very clearly in

574
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,480
penance for it.
But like, is that ever something

575
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,200
that you can can make up for?
Will he ever finish?

576
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:18,920
I don't know because he doesn't
he so there is an investigation

577
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,240
into the fire and he is
exonerated because it's deemed

578
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,640
the fire to be an accident.
And it.

579
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,240
Was sure.
And also.

580
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,080
And also is there no
accountability like I guess

581
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,600
that's the letter of the law is
like you can't be charged with a

582
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,240
crime this for being drunk, I
guess as.

583
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,880
As as you look, as you kind of
like look at the different

584
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960
levels of accountability.
So there's his job

585
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,960
accountability and his like fire
captain chief basically says

586
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,480
like you can't stay here, but.
Yeah.

587
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,720
I'll move, you can see.
You can go across the country

588
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,040
and be in charge of these broken
people over here.

589
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Over here.
So there's that part and like

590
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320
was that kind of fishy?
Yes, it's.

591
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,560
Concealed, right?
They concealed what happened so

592
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,680
he could join the LAFD.
Which then comes back to bite

593
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,840
him in a few seasons.
It doesn't it come and you

594
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,520
haven't gotten there yet, but it
comes up again.

595
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,920
I got there the first time when
the LAFD UN uncover.

596
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,960
No, no, no, like there's another
character coming.

597
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,920
Oh cool, in in later season.
And I don't remember if it's

598
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,640
seven or I think it's 7.
Cool.

599
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,560
But I haven't gotten there yet.
And then there's like the police

600
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,880
investigation and I guess by the
letter of the law, I think

601
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,000
you're right that the, the fire
was started by a, by a like a

602
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000
little, you know.
Faulty mechanism.

603
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Yeah, that it overheated and it
didn't auto shut off or

604
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,000
whatever.
So like in theory, if that, if

605
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,480
that space heater had been
upstairs in Brooke and Bobby's

606
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,640
room and they were asleep, mm
hmm.

607
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,920
It would have happened the same
way.

608
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Yeah, I, yes, I think I feel
like this was a lot for and at

609
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,080
this point, what is this going
to season 1?

610
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,800
So it's still Ryan Murphy kind
of involved with Tim.

611
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,200
This is a lot to put on a
character that's going to be one

612
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,040
of your leads.
Throughout the show, this is

613
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,240
true.
And if it had just been his wife

614
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,080
and kids, I think that sucks and
it's awful and it's a huge

615
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480
burden.
You get your Catholic guilt, you

616
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,200
get their deaths, you get
penance, but you don't have 148

617
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,080
other lives behind it.
And I think it's that those

618
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,120
extra deaths that you're like,
that's a lot for this man to be

619
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,160
carrying that I have a hard time
forgetting about.

620
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,280
Yeah.
And then they just.

621
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,800
Even after eight seasons, yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it's, it's a

622
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,240
really interesting question.
And then because it isn't just

623
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,760
about his family, it's about the
entire building and kind of the

624
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,080
the path there.
And then what has happened is

625
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,560
about, you know, by the end of
season.

626
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,880
God, wait, end of season 1,
middle of season 2, Bobby's just

627
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,360
manifested a new family.
And I get it, you do it for the

628
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,800
plot.
But like, at what point does

629
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,760
Bobby get to forgive himself?
Does he get to move on?

630
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,040
And does he do it?
Yeah.

631
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,080
I just, it's a really
interesting question and I don't

632
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,160
know.
I don't love mom and Dad.

633
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Of course I do.
Like Yeah, I do too.

634
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,760
Athena.
I love them.

635
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,360
I love them too.
And you?

636
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Know he carries a lot of guilt
when when Michael is still, you

637
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,440
know, struggling to be part of
the family and not be part of

638
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,480
the family.
And when May is like, you're my

639
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,520
dad too.
And he's like, but I lost my

640
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,200
kids and.
And you're like, yeah.

641
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,840
But you should feel guilty.
You should like feel guilty

642
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,960
about that.
You really?

643
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,800
Should and I just, I, I wonder
if that was like a good choice

644
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,920
on in the, in the development of
the show to be like, you killed

645
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,160
your family and also 148 other
people and now you get to be

646
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,120
captain of a fire department.
And, and part of it, you know, I

647
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960
think they tried to soothe it
with when they figured out his

648
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,400
blood had that factor in it that
could save the lives of babies

649
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,840
that they haven't brought up
ever again.

650
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,800
Right.
It's not like we see him.

651
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,679
You could so easily have him
walking in like, sorry I'm late.

652
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,000
It took extra time at the
hospital donating blood this

653
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,360
month.
Yeah, right.

654
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,400
Are they are they just like
Henrietta laxing his blood that

655
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,080
just repopulates itself?
Like what are they doing with

656
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,360
his blood?
Surely he has to keep donating

657
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,920
because the other guy, they were
like, oh, yeah, this guy comes

658
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719
in and he donates all the time
and now it's your job.

659
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Like, surprise.
That shit bothers me a lot in TV

660
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,679
shows, and I know they can't.
This is why we can't be TV

661
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:42,520
writers, right?
Like, no, This is why we

662
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:43,760
produced.
I didn't write.

663
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,679
Is that I get too bogged down in
the weeds of fucking Buck has to

664
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,719
go to rehab, OK?
We have to see him.

665
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,360
I want to see it.
I want to see it hurt.

666
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Everybody has to go to rehab,
everybody.

667
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,120
They all they do, they're all
broken.

668
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,040
I want we talked about this
before.

669
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,680
I want to see the ice baths that
you know they're taking.

670
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,880
As I googled it, I have been on
firefighter Reddit like.

671
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,280
Because somebody researches a
lot for her fic.

672
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,080
I do the there's there's more
pages in the notes than there is

673
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,280
in the fic and.
There's a lot of pages of fic,

674
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,280
let me tell you.
I I want to see them do the ice

675
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,480
pads because they hurt after a
48 hour shift right carrying

676
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,560
hoses and 100 lbs of gear
because that it lends a realness

677
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,200
to combat a fucking B NATO.
Oh, the B NATO.

678
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,320
I loved the B NATO.
So you have the realism of an

679
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:41,440
alcoholic doing the work of his
steps, which we see in detail

680
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,680
with Bobby.
And he goes to his his his

681
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,640
classes, his meetings, and he
does the work and he does the

682
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,040
steps And it really, the writers
really seem to care about this

683
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,800
work for Bobby.
And then it just kind of like

684
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,920
disappears when it's not needed.
But like, why not have him?

685
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,920
Why not see his chips get.
I don't think they get bigger.

686
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,000
I just think you get new chips.
Yeah, Like, why not see them on

687
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,720
the desk?
Like you're 90 day, you're

688
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,360
Hunter, your three-year chip,
your four year chip.

689
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Like, why not just see it?
It doesn't have to be a big

690
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,960
deal.
Especially because he's not

691
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,960
keeping it a secret anymore and
everybody knows.

692
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Yeah.
And so I one of the things,

693
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaking of Bobby Nash and I
don't know if we'll ever get to

694
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120
an answer on this question just
for you and me and the

695
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,080
listeners.
But one of the things I love

696
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,680
about Bobby is how, especially
in this climate, in the place

697
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,320
that we are in time, how this
show can simultaneously be so

698
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:40,040
like Christian, Catholic, Jesus
Church and so queer at the same

699
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,920
time.
And I just really appreciate

700
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,680
that about about Bobby and about
Athena and just the show at

701
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,200
large, that they're the two of
them are so solid and secure in

702
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,640
their faith and that it, it
impacts them not at all with

703
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,640
things with their relationships
with their queer characters and

704
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:09,440
their their other folks.
And I just, you know, I think

705
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,320
it's in season 2.
I guess we get that when

706
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Maddie's on the ride along, we
get that like kind of protester,

707
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,280
that web Westboro Baptist kind
of protester.

708
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,360
And so you, you very clearly see
that like that kind of bigotry

709
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,640
is still well and alive and
good.

710
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,560
But in our house, those two
things can live together.

711
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Yep.
And I just think that's neat.

712
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,800
It is neat.
And I hope at some point that

713
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,680
Eddie gets to talk to Bobby and
Athena about how do you smush

714
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:48,880
Jesus and Gay in the same brain,
how do you do it 'cause I think

715
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,080
they could have a very
interesting conversation, the

716
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,280
three of them.
Well, he's gonna have to go back

717
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,480
to Hot Priest.
I mean, obviously.

718
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,080
And be like, I'm so sorry.
You're right.

719
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640
That seat was was open.
Yeah, that seat was open and I

720
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560
did want the juice and also.
Yeah, and I want the juice.

721
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,440
I want the juice.
Got me feeling loose.

722
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,480
Get it?
I don't know if Bobby deserves

723
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,480
to be happy.
I mean, it's ATV show, right?

724
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,480
Like they're not going to.
I just, I don't know, like, so

725
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,240
it's for me, it's this whole
thing about he does the penance

726
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,960
for, for the fire.
That's what we see.

727
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,240
He we see him, you know, going
through his 12 steps and we see

728
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,680
him at the meetings and we see
him talking about his experience

729
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,040
and we see him talking about
that.

730
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,120
But I don't know what kind of is
he putting in the same work for

731
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,240
his family.
Yeah.

732
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Like, I think what I'd like to
see somewhere along the line,

733
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,320
and not that we don't, not that
we haven't gotten glimpses of

734
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000
it.
Let me tell you, when Shannon

735
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200
dies and Eddie comes in after
her, like after they've called

736
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,960
her and he just collapses into
Bobby's arms because Bobby is

737
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,840
the only person in his whole
life who will understand

738
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,440
intimately what's going on with
his life right now breaks me

739
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,440
every time.
But like, I need to see Bobby

740
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,440
talking specifically about
losing his family.

741
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,760
Like, I need to see him work
through it.

742
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,760
I need to see him work through
it with Athena.

743
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,320
Like I walk into this house, the
one that you and I, you know,

744
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,080
designed and built and the
family that we built together,

745
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,200
and I see Marcie.
I walk into the room and I see

746
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,840
her.
I see May, but I hear Brooks

747
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,440
laugh.
Like I, I just, I need them to

748
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,040
have that conversation that
they're, that the ghosts are

749
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,600
still there.
Yeah.

750
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,960
Well, I think the problem is I
think the show is living on

751
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,000
that.
He's good.

752
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,640
I think the show he's.
Like morally good or that he's

753
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,920
like cool with the dying?
That he's like not healed, but

754
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,320
that he is in a, in a place of
being healed, yeah.

755
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:05,320
Maybe.
I think the show is now like he

756
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,680
has come to a place of being
healed about it.

757
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Yeah.
Peace.

758
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,480
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe.

759
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,520
I don't know.
I just, I, it's a, it's a

760
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,080
question I still have.
Like does are you telling me

761
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,200
really that Bobby never sees
pieces of Marcy and Athena?

762
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,320
That Eddie will never see pieces
of Shannon.

763
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,760
That Hen never sees pieces of
Eva.

764
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,400
God I hope not, fuck her.
Yeah, well, fuck her.

765
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,040
But also like because Karen a
couple episodes ago just had her

766
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,960
break and I'm like, I see Eva
everywhere and I'm like, I know

767
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,760
you do, baby.
You don't deserve that.

768
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,120
I know.
Be nice to the Wilsons.

769
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,280
Be nice to the Wilsons.
Oh be nice to the Wilsons, but

770
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,280
murder Buck and Eddie every
episode.

771
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Yes, every episode would be nice
in the Wilsons, but fuck the

772
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,400
Buckley Diaz.
OK, I see.

773
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,360
I see how it is.
I'm sorry, do you want me to put

774
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Hen and Karen in situations?
Because I don't enjoy putting

775
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,760
them in situations.
But.

776
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,320
How are they any different?
Why?

777
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,120
Why do we get to murder my boys?
But the the Wilsons are like,

778
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,080
no, they're good.
I want to read about Hen and

779
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,640
Karen being soft and warm and
why.

780
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Why them?
Why don't we drop fire trucks on

781
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,280
Buck and we're like no, the hen
and Hen and Karen get to have a

782
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,880
lovely day at the spa.
We.

783
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,440
Can't do it.
No, if we're murdering my boys,

784
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,600
they're getting it too.
We're taking those kids and

785
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
we're throwing them off bridges.
Fine.

786
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,280
I'm sad but fine.
Can't be nice to one and not the

787
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,400
other, no If I have to see one
more fucking Foster fail

788
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,120
storyline.
Oh no, no, I will.

789
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,800
Turn the TV off.
I'm so sick of it.

790
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,880
I'm sick of it.
Let them have their kids and be

791
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,920
done.
I'm tired, I'm so tired.

792
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,320
I.
Just yeah, I, I, I feel like

793
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,640
we're getting kind of, not to
like the Glee problem, but in

794
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,880
the way that Glee only figured
out relationship problems by

795
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,560
cheating.
Yes.

796
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,240
We need to figure out other ways
of like drama that isn't near

797
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:13,040
death experiences.
Oh.

798
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,200
I don't know, like money maybe?
Oh.

799
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,840
My God.
Yes, 'cause let me tell you,

800
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,640
those firefighters are not
making money.

801
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,080
And now how many fucking
children do the Wilson like how

802
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,360
much money They have two.
Oh, that's right.

803
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,280
They they have two now.
OK, yeah, OK.

804
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,160
But they're still they're
raising two children in Los

805
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,320
Angeles.
Hen is a firefighter.

806
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,920
What does Karen even do now?
Does part time job at the lab,

807
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,280
but the lab blew up.
What is she doing?

808
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680
I don't know.
She a stay at home mom now?

809
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Like what is her job?
They don't have any money.

810
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:45,160
That could be their problem that
they're paying a a mortgage and

811
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,600
all these fucking bills for
medical expenses.

812
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Like, I don't know.
Yeah, like, you know, get the

813
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,880
get the Buckley Hans and the
Grant Nashes and the Wilsons and

814
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,840
then just the Diaz's, but with
Buckley, kind of like, what are

815
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,320
we doing over here?
These people can't afford their

816
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,680
lives.
No, they can't.

817
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,720
They cannot.
I mean, I think Bobby and Athena

818
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,040
are the only ones who can
attempt to afford their lives,

819
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,960
especially now that maid's out
of the house.

820
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,400
But aren't they trying to build
a new house?

821
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Yes, their their house burned
down so they OK?

822
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,400
Well, if they live in Los
Angeles, do they have fire

823
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,240
insurance?
Do they have fire insurance?

824
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,560
Not probably anymore in LA.
Probably not, it's probably been

825
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,200
cancelled on them, but it's ATV
show so they probably do have

826
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,480
fire.
Insurance, like with all the

827
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080
people who are trying to do the
friggin who are like cancelling

828
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,080
flood insurance if you live in
the Gulf, Like no, that's that's

829
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,160
the only reason.
Yeah, so let's say, let's say

830
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,840
they still have their fire
insurance, but they're going to

831
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,160
rebuild a house on the land what
they have.

832
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Yeah, but you know how long
insurance claims take?

833
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,800
And the materials post COVID
materials.

834
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,920
Holy shit.
Holy shit, yeah.

835
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,200
Yeah, that's gonna be a couple
$1,000,000.

836
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440
To read the house.
Easy, easy.

837
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,040
It's not happening.
OK so because I it's now

838
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,000
screaming so loud in my head I
can't stop it dear friends.

839
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,240
Countrymen.
Right now, Los Angeles County is

840
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:14,400
on fire.
Yes.

841
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Like, very, very much on fire.
Emily and I both lived in Los

842
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,680
Angeles.
We both worked in Los Angeles,

843
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,000
We went to school in Los
Angeles.

844
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:26,320
And I, I need to tell you from
the bottom of my fucking heart,

845
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,560
do not give the cast grief over
the filming schedule.

846
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:39,200
For the love of God, if there's
any, no, don't, don't do it.

847
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Don't talk about it.
Don't talk to them about it.

848
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,720
Los Angeles right now is on
fire.

849
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,400
Like, leave that shit in your
group chats.

850
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Do not, do not take it to the
streets.

851
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,480
There are tons and tons and tons
of resources out there if you

852
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,960
are in Los Angeles, if you are
looking to throw money at Los

853
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:01,640
Angeles, they can use all the
help they can get.

854
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,480
But like as fandom, it is our
job to support the programs that

855
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,520
we enjoy, not to get in their
faces about it in the sign in

856
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,640
the times of crisis.
Also, there are hundreds of

857
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,800
people who work on these TV
shows who need those jobs.

858
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,960
It's not the actors who make a
little bit more.

859
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,760
Also, working actors don't make
that much money, but the

860
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,440
hundreds of crew members on the
show need those jobs to survive.

861
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600
So if they can keep filming
during this, they should.

862
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,400
Like keep it.
I know we joke about keep it off

863
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,560
the streets, but for the like,
keep it off the streets.

864
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Yeah.
OK, we should talk about

865
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,400
something else.
I know we should.

866
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,920
Yes, we can talk about a better
topic than than fire in Los

867
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,600
Angeles, although it has been
like almost an hour, so maybe

868
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,520
that's a good place to end.
No.

869
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,160
These are supposed to be mini
episodes.

870
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,600
I've never been mini about
anything in my life.

871
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040
We haven't.
We really haven't.

872
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,200
OK, nice things to talk about.
Emily just finished writing a

873
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,800
fic.
Oh my God.

874
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,840
Yes, thank you.
It's amazing.

875
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,800
It's so good.
It has been a.

876
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Very long time since I did that,
so thank you.

877
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,320
I'm very, very proud of you.
Thank you.

878
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,520
You're writing one too, so I'm
very proud of you as well.

879
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,520
And you have been writing.
I am.

880
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,240
It's 16,000 words right now.
It's a.

881
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Lot of words.
That's a lot of words.

882
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,840
I hope you all enjoy texting.
I hope that's fun for you.

883
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,640
It has been interesting trying
to write that.

884
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Let's let's be real here.
That's been fun.

885
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:38,560
But yeah, so that's exciting.
Writing's hard.

886
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Writing is so hard.
Be nice to your writers.

887
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,400
Be nice to your GIF makers and
your video editors.

888
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,280
Tumblr is the reblog website.
Reblog.

889
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,200
It is the reblog website.
It's not.

890
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,480
It's not Tiktok, it's not
Instagram likes don't matter.

891
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960
I mean on like AO3 likes are
delightful.

892
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,040
But if it's on, if it's on
Tumblr, like yes, reblogs are

893
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,280
the the way to go.
Kudos are great.

894
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,040
I literally took a comment
e-mail that I got today and I

895
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,760
showed it to my husband and I
got little Kiki feet on the on

896
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,920
the couch.
Like trust me when I tell you

897
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,360
that every comment you leave
like might it might inspire Kiki

898
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,560
feet in an author.
It really does, actually.

899
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,600
It really brightens people's day
to see comments, even if they're

900
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,200
like a heart emoji.
Yeah.

901
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,000
And I'm really bad at leaving
comments.

902
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Like I get secondhand
embarrassment about myself.

903
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,760
Leaving a comment on someone
like this was good but do it

904
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,720
anyway.
Like I just.

905
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,720
I leave hearts because I get
awkward.

906
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,080
Yeah, but like, be nice to your
content creators.

907
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Create content.
If you made a thing and you're

908
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,240
scared to post it, post the
thing.

909
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,560
Tag it appropriately so those of
us who use tag blockers can use

910
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,000
tag blockers.
If we need to look at your

911
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,280
stuff.
But there are people out there

912
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,200
who do want to look at your
stuff, so be brave and punky

913
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,320
anyway.
Yes, exactly all.

914
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:00,480
Right.
We should get out of here.

915
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,440
It's 53 minutes.
We should, I mean, obviously

916
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,600
there's going to be more of
these.

917
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:09,480
If you have questions about 911
that you want us to talk about

918
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,480
or like topics about 911 that
you want us to talk about, like

919
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,600
send them in somehow I don't
like in an Instagram comment or

920
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,960
whatever, we will come back with
another episode and more

921
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,800
questions like fit questions,
episode questions, ship

922
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,840
questions.
I'm sure there are other like

923
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,880
very specific things that will
pop up in an episode.

924
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,720
We're gonna be like, we're gonna
talk about this one specific

925
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:38,680
thing for 36 minutes.
Eddie Eddie Diaz passing out and

926
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,600
having a panic attack.
Yes, at the prospect of being

927
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,720
with a woman.
Eddie Diaz great character or

928
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,480
the greatest character?
TuneIn next time.

929
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,840
Next time on so thank you for
listening.

930
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,960
You can find us at Phantom of
the Rocks.

931
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,760
We have a Patreon with all sorts
of other bonus content.

932
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,960
Season 3 of PAC Dynamics, our
Teen Wolf podcast is on the way.

933
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,840
Those episodes are getting put
together and then they will drop

934
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,480
once a week.
And Glee on the Rocks is also

935
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,040
put new episodes out.
You know, if you want to yell at

936
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Ryan Murphy some more, the way
we love to do, that's always an

937
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,480
object the.
Extended Cinematic Universe.

938
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,400
Exactly because this is also a
Ryan Murphy show.

939
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,640
So yeah.
So thanks for listening and we

940
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,960
will catch you next time with
the The Wee Woo Wee Woo Show.

941
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,120
Wee woo, wee woo, wee woo.