Bonus Episode: 9-1-1 Mini Series #3

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Hello, welcome back to our 911
miniseries of Phantom on the

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Rocks.
I am Emily.

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And I'm Allison.
And this is going to be our

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slightly spoilery.
Alert alert alert alert.

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We woo slightly spoilery buddy
speculation episode.

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Yeah, so this is just, this is
literally just we have it on the

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calendar as the buddy spec
episode.

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Simply because of the tik toks
that come out like 2 days ago

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now of some filming that
happened between Buck and Eddie

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on the streets of Los Angeles.
It took me back a couple of

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different directions and I'm
going to just drag you along to

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all of them.
We got to talk about ice

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skating, obviously.
Bryant Park, the great days.

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And we have to if you weren't.
There, you don't know.

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Yeah, and that's the thing.
And then if we have to talk

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about filming in LA.
Yeah.

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And just like the banana nut
muffins, like, how did they get

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access?
It's Los Angeles.

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It's Los Angeles, it's
everywhere.

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They just show up at your door.
They do, they show up at your

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door.
So we'll talk about kind of each

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of those things in turn.
But yes, this entire episode is

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going to be just the spoileriest
little thing.

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So with.
Speculation spoiler because as

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we know with behind the scenes
footage it could be fucking

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anything.
It could be fucking anything.

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It could be fucking anything.
You see behind the scenes

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footage and then all of a sudden
you're like, what is this if

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this is not what I saw?
If this turns out to be part of

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either Buck or Eddie's like dead
wife coma dream, I'm never gonna

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stop laughing.
This could be anything you don't

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know.
All you know is what episode

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it's allegedly part of, but it.
Who knows shit?

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We don't know shit.
If we learn anything from Glee

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behind the scenes is you don't
know.

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Shit.
So we what I'm saying here is

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that we may end, we're gonna
we're gonna talk about filming

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and we may end up tripping into
Canon spoiler territory because

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we've been around this block a
couple of times and we have

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hopes and dreams, but also kind
of know how TV works.

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So we may end up launching into
something or we may just be end

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up totally off the cuff and
just, you know, hit him with a

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tree so.
Yeah.

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Just alert alert alert alert.
Yeah, if if you don't want to

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hear one about buddy, wrong
podcast for you.

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Anyway.
If you want speculation about 8B

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of 911, not the right episode
for you.

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May I heartily recommend the
Glee, Teen Wolf, and

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Supernatural that you'll find
right over here to your left

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hand side?
Yeah, just keep clicking and

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you'll find other episodes to be
heard.

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And if you that's it, I think
that's what the content working.

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This is going to be buddy
speculation, pure nonsense, and

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the sound of our voices.
And I, I think this is going to

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be a really nice way to
introduce the fandom sides of

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ourselves.
My name is Allison.

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I'm freak for freak.
I enjoy putting these gentlemen

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in situations.
Yeah, you do.

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I I'm very much a hurt comfort
girlie, I'm very much in angst

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for the happy ending girlie.
And so that's where my spec will

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be headed.
I am Emily, I have been here too

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long.
And she's just tired.

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I'm just so tired.
I There's too many fandoms, too

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many Ryan Murphy shows.
I would complain more, but like

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every other one of his shows is
a banger for me personally.

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So like I need him to keep
going.

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All right, So I suppose we
should probably introduce a

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little bit.
So where we are, where we are,

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what happened and then what does
it mean?

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So we are recording in the in
the hiatus land between, you

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know, eight, the first half in a
little bit of 8A and the little

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bit in second-half of 8B or
whatever.

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However they're talking about it
or calling it or whatever.

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We left our intrepid heroes.
Eddie is searching for a house

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in El Paso and the general
understanding of that is that

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he's looking to move, or at
least to visit for like long

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term El Paso to be closer to his
son.

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Buck is preparing to be
confronted with this reality and

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according to the lovely face
that we were left with, is

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confused and sad about it.
He's not.

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Pleased, Not pleased.
He has sat himself on the

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Capital C couch.
Bless you, that's correct.

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That's how it read in my head
and I'm glad he said that loud.

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The couch in Eddie's capital H
house and we are left with a

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face of If you are in fandom, it
is potentially the first Oh,

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it's.
The.

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Oh.
Yeah, it's it's, it's O, not O

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It's it's non italic, regular O.
Yes, Eddie is leaving.

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Buck has a long history of being
left, and if the writers don't

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know what they're doing with
that, they should all be fired.

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And give it to us because we all
know what we're doing with.

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That because literally everyone
in the fandom knows what to do

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with that at this point.
Literally, we all know.

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And that's to turn.
Eddie's big ass around could

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bring him back.
Back that truck up.

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Literally, both figuratively and
literally, considering the

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footage that was filmed.
So we now have to get to the

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footage so A.
Capital F Footage.

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Capital F footage a couple of
days ago and I am in Europe now.

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I'm in Europe and so I I woke up
on like a nice polite morning to

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like 7 texts in a row from
Emily, which is unusual for her

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and I'm going through it and I
was transported to like 2014 in

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Glee because all I'm seeing is
the same tick tock.

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It's like the same grainy video
footage of behind the scenes and

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I'm not really a big BTS girlie.
I gotta tell you, I think that

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that may have been like 20120.
God, was that 20?

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12 That may have been November
19th, 2012.

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OK, well we'll get there in a
second, ma'am.

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So what we had, what I woke up
to was the my, our polite side

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of the Internet, the little
buddy side of the Internet going

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banana nut muffins ape shit.
Because somebody in Los Angeles

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was like, oh hey, they look at
their filming 911 across the

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street, and what they found was
footage of Buck and Eddie with

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Eddie with his truck, with AU
haul camper like attached to it,

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hugging goodbye in the rain in
the streets of Los Angeles.

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Yes, yeah.
And so, considering that we

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were, well, we've all been
raised on soap operas and

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telenovelas and ROM coms,
immediately lost our shit.

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They're in the rain, dude.
They're not even in front of a

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moving van in.
Front of a moving van.

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I saw a post, Oh my God, a
couple of days ago talking about

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it and it was like in this show,
you don't come out, you get a

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Tom, you get a Tom Cruise like
homage, yes.

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Yes, you do.
You get a Tom Cruise.

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Moment.
Yes, you get a Tom Cruise

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moment.
You had me at hello.

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God alive.
So the the my little neck of the

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fandom.
Our little neck of the fandom

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promptly lost their shit because
we the footage suggests that we

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are getting a buddy goodbye in
the rain, which is some of the

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ROM comiest shit I've ever seen
in my life.

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It's fucking romantic.
Like listen.

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Fucking romantic.
Now, to be fair, filming

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schedules for ATV show are tight
and it is, it is raining in Los

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Angeles and you cannot, you
can't change your filming

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schedule because it's raining,
right?

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So it is a bit of an act of the
universe that it rained that day

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or however, however it's raining
and it's beautiful.

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They didn't change Eddie's
wardrobe like he still guns out

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in a black tank top.
I think that's the problem, so

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I'm going to put on my tinfoil
hat here.

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I'm putting on that he's.
Showing off during his move.

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I mean, we all know how Eddie
Diaz feels about a slummy black

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tank top.
Like, let's be honest with

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ourselves.
Only he had the mustache.

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With this, the mustache guns
out, mustache out.

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I miss her.
I miss the mustache, I do, but

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I'm saying that it is not only
possible but is fairly common

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that you know.
We had this.

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We had a trailer drop for 8B
with the Maddie getting

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kidnapped arc.
Yes, but.

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Poor girl, poor thing.
It's stupid.

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And I hate it.
It is entirely possible for a

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very very last minute edit some
footage in and then it that

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doesn't that we're still like 4
weeks out.

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Yes.
They can turn that shit around

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in like a day or two if they
need to.

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Yes.
So if they were waiting for it

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to rain or hoping to wait for it
to rain.

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This is true.
For reasons.

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They could, they could.
And and the flip side, the the

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devil's advocate argument is you
can also make it rain.

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You can make it rain and they do
make it rain and we will talk

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about that, but they like to
make it big rain.

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They do like to make it big
rain, not little rain.

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This is.
Gray sky won't look pretty on

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camera.
Raining, yeah.

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Yeah, this is going to be
weirdly lit, really flat, kind

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of.
Drab like it's.

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Going to be drab, it's not going
to be pretty.

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It's not going to be pretty.
It's going to be really hard to

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maintain continuity with hair
and makeup.

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Yeah, like, yeah.
They like they didn't have, they

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didn't have to do it.
Guzman has a fuck ass tattoo on

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his arm that they left out.
Like they purposely had him in a

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tank top that they have to do a
cover up on on his right

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forearm.
Yeah, so that tank top is a

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choice.
It is a fucking choice,

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especially because half the BTS
footage is Ryan in his like

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fucking coat.
Which I mean, talk about people

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raised in Southern California in
Texas, like, what is it?

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Is it 75?
And he's wearing like a a big

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puffy coat, like get a grip.
My father, who was born and

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raised in Colorado, lived in
Arizona for like 20 years and

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now anytime it's under 80°F he's
like, Oh my God, it's so cold.

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I.
Can't Remember Me in New York

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like sweating on the train and
there would be other women in

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like full length parkas.
Like how?

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How?
All all of this to say is that

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they put it, they didn't put him
in weather appropriate stuff.

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Eddie.
Eddie wasn't just like, oh, I

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guess it's raining.
I'll put on a sweater.

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Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no, no for reasons.

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He.
Had to put on his hot priest

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tank top.
He did put on his Opry's tank

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top or the drop his gay his gay
awakening tank top his.

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Gay awakening tank top for the
drop like I just.

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He needed his delts out for for
that hug.

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I'm just OK while we're talking.
I literally have a post up and

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I'm just watching the hug on
repeat while we're talking.

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Bless you like.
I can't help it.

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Now, OK, up on his little tippy
toes, up on his little tippy,

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they both have to get up on
their little tippity toes,

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they're less. 2 inch tight
difference.

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Because none of us would have
known about the tippity toes

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you.
Wouldn't, because they're not

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gonna show it full body.
That's not the framing.

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The framing is their shoulders.
Yeah, the framing is their

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shoulders, like because they're
the camera's fairly close in

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it's.
Pretty close.

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So like they're not zooming out.
This is like a hand shoulders

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head kind of, you know, cut off
at the cut off at the rib cage

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kind of shot.
Yeah, you're gonna see.

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Let's see.
Looking at it, you're going to

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see.
Maybe you're not going to see

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Eddie's ass unfortunately, but
you're going to see Buck's arms,

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I think, depending on the zoom
coming up around that full body

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hug.
Yeah, we're going to talk about

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the clothing here in a minute.
Buck's wardrobe is so

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interesting because we've both
been re watching.

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Well, I've been re watching.
You're watching the show and for

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a long time Bucks wardrobe are
collared polos.

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Yeah, it's collared polos.
He's he's, he loves.

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He loves a fitted sweater.
A fitted sweater.

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There's some really funny behind
the scenes of Aisha making fun

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of Oliver, really for how tight
his clothing is.

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Like, why you got to wear stuff
that's 4 sizes too small.

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He's like, look, I just put it
on.

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It's in the trailer.
I put it on.

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And she makes him like, stand up
and do a little twirly twirl and

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like, yeah, buddy, your quote,
she does.

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It's adorable.
She makes fun of him all the

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time and he loves it because
apparently he has a little

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degradation kink.
I don't know.

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I just I.
Love this for him.

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I love this for him so much.
Congratulations, Sir.

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But so his clothing for much of
the series is tight fitted

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colored polos with like some
buttons, maybe all the way

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button, maybe like the three
button collared polo like a

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burnt orange a brown buck likes.
Chinos he likes.

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Chinos.
He loves a chinos.

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He loves a bright color.
You know what he you know what

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he doesn't love until like the
last two episodes?

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Baggy.
T-shirts, baggy T-shirts, and

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jeans.
So there is a Tumblr user that I

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like that just she pops up on my
dashboard and I love seeing her

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meta on this.
And her name is Anna and she

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does a bunch of color theory and
a bunch of clothing theory.

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Like her color theory is wild.
Whether it's real I don't know.

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But boy is it interesting and I
love reading about it.

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But she's been kind of breaking
it all down lately and basically

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the the conclusion conclusion
that she's come to is that like

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he's not totally comfy yet.
He hasn't totally figured it out

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yet.
And you know, that absolutely

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makes sense narratively.
I don't know if they're like

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thinking that far, but you know,
he kind of he came out and he

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was like, totally, I'd do it.
I got this.

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And then it like kind of crashed
and burned and then it kind of

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he was, he's, he's coping, but
he's trying.

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And he's like, well, this isn't
fitting and this isn't fitting

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and this isn't fitting.
And now everything's going

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wrong.
And so his clothes are like not

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in the same vibe as he's usually
in.

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And I want, and I, I have 0
facts about this.

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But we all know that Ryan Guzman
is a beautiful man.

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We all know this, and we have
seen that the people in

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costuming also know this and
there is no reason for them to

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give him pants that don't fit.
Yes.

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He has worn jeans before.
He has worn jeans that fit

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before.
These jeans don't fit.

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Correct.
And I just, I have similar

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questions.
I have similar questions of has.

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I'm trying to make decisions,
but maybe it's not the right

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one, that it doesn't feel quite
right, but it looks right.

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Hey, at least the top fits.
I do long for the sluttiest of

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tank tops.
Affectionate from 2/1 with with

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the side boob with the.
Like yeah, the tits out.

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God, that tank top.
I would look amazing at that

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tank top, by the way, for the
record, for the record, for the

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record, but it.
Sensors are not gonna allow

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that.
Absolutely not.

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Absolutely.
That's too slutty a tank top for

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me.
But so we were gathered together

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on this fandom day to to revel
in in the in the footage in the

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found footage.
Now, you mentioned something

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earlier about another date of
found footage and.

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The Holy Yesterdays.
And I wonder if you could talk

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about it and explain kind of
the, the, the context gap, the

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historical gap between those of
us who were there for the first

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of holy days and then those who
were not and are here for this

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of holy days.
So many, many moons ago there

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was a show called Glee and
season 4, there was a Christmas

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episode, Glee actually, and
Curtain Blaine, the main ship

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have it's not a date because
they are currently broken up,

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which we don't talk about, but
they have this little this

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little thing at the ice skating
rink at Bryant Park in in New

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York City.
And this was filmed on location

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in Bryant Park in New York City.
And this, I mean, Glee was at

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like, it wasn't, I think it was
still like the height of its

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popularity and.
Season 4.

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Yeah, and it was filmed on
location and I don't know if

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somehow everyone, people just
knew that it was filming here

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and and fans started to like
some fans showed up during

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filming and started recording
what was going on.

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They shared it, posted the in
nearly the entire filming night.

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It was hours of hours of footage
and content and tweets and

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Tumblr posts of of Chris Colfer
and Darren Criss together

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filming ice skating.
And it was maybe the most

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glorious fandom experience that
many of us had ever had together

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on Tumblr, vibing out over a a
thing that we all loved and

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hadn't grown to hate yet.
Yeah, just.

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And if you think that like 35
seconds of of Buck and Eddie

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hugging are something to crash
out over, you don't know

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anything.
It was, it truly was, it was

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hours and hours and hours of
just like the live Twitter

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threads were incredible,
incredible because everyone was

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there there.
There were probably 5 or 10, you

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know, reporters on the ground
and they were able to give

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contacts.
They were on different sides of

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the park.
So we got different angles of

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stuff.
Some were video, some were

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photography, some could hear
some dialogue, some could hear

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them laughing and joking around.
There were, I keep thinking of

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the of the pictures.
Was it that Chris took of dare

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to the Darren took of Chris?
Darren At one point Darren got

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on the ice.
He laid down on his back on the

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ice to take a picture of Chris
Colfer posing.

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Some somewhere that picture
exists.

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And, and so I've just pulled up
my tags of this because, I mean,

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I, I must have 20 pages, yeah,
if not more of, of this

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happening.
So, so he's like laying down on

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the ice on like a little mat
that they've put down on the ice

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so that they can like stand
still during some of the shots.

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And there's a moment where he's
like literally pouting at Chris

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Colfer to let him take a photo
and you never, you never see it.

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Like it's a photo that exists
between them and, and you never

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see it.
And, and I think the, the

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analogy, it's not even analogy.
The flip side of this is that

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Oliver Stark has taken a billion
photos and has actually shared

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them with, with the fans, right?
Like he has posted after every

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episode, Like here's a
collection of 10 or whatever

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photos that I have taken.
I meaning Oliver, not me.

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Of of the cast, like my black
and white, my color photos or

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whatever.
I give these unto the fandom,

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right?
Yeah, that did not happen for

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us.
No it.

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Like, and that is something that
I think we became very resentful

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of in Glee of being like, hey,
we know you guys like each

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other.
Like not just Chris and Darren,

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but also like the whole cast.
Yeah.

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Like, what are why are you
withholding?

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Why can't we see it?
And I know we are not owed that,

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right.
Like we are not owed.

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Of course there was.
There was like a weird barrier

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to entry.
They never did conventions.

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I doubt 911 will do conventions.
Probably not.

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Which sucks balls.
Like I I'm too old, I won't go

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to one.
Like I can't handle that shit

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anymore.
But I.

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I will, and I'll drag you with
me, but you're gonna be, you're

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gonna be bad about it the whole
time.

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I will go with you, but I also
have a weird thing like I don't

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know that I want to see you in
person.

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If we're if it's now out of the
context that I not you, I'll see

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you in person.
Like, I don't know that I want

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to see like, like Ryan Guzman in
person outside of the context I

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used to be in.
Do you know what I mean?

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Like, yeah, I don't.
I don't know you.

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I don't.
Yeah, and that's The thing, is

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that like the parasocial
relationships in fandom have

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gone up for what we used to be
begging for, but we as a phantom

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community have just not treated
it with respect.

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Yes.
And so it's gonna go away.

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And I don't, I don't know if we
could have handled as a phantom

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community like the Bryant Park
Knight now.

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Yes, so Bryant Park today would
have been a fucking disaster.

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At the time everyone stood.
So I had a friend at the rink

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texting me all night.
Just like paragraphs of details

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of what was going on.
Because not only were we Glee

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fans, we were like RPF fans and
just getting details of like eye

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contact.
And it was fucking glorious.

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And there there was stuff
because there was footage that

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came out of like Darren
recording Chris on the ice that

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he did actually post.
And it's stuff that like there's

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line, not lines.
The conversations, right?

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Like of them that lingered in
the fandom for just years, of

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them mirroring each other of
like Darren telling Chris, like,

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he's getting better ice skating,
right?

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Like, you're getting better.
I'm getting much better.

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Don't jinx it.
Like, it's the most adorable

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shit that we saw in years.
And one of the main lines is

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like, still going strong.
And I think about that to this

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day because it was one of like
the most intimate moments that

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we'd gotten.
They're like happy and open in a

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way that we had not gotten to
scene and it was extended.

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It went on for fucking.
Hours.

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Yeah, they were.
They were filming.

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It was a long night.
It was such a long night and it

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it was really like, I think for
a lot of people a a really clear

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glimpse into what filming ATV
show can be like that it's

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endless.
It's just, and this is more

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complicated because they were
ice skating.

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So you're trying to do like
choreography with the fucking

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song.
And there were extras, the guy

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in orange, the the orange
sweater guy that we were all

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like, like his dudes fucking
jealous.

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Like it was, we were like
creating ships out of the

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background extras.
It was wild.

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And I still think about this
because it made the fandom so

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close.
Yeah, it did.

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And it just it, I think the
entire thing worked because

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everyone stayed in their seat.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah.

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Like, nobody tried to cross the
barrier.

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Nobody tried to, like, you know,
cross the streams.

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Nobody.
They just, they just, they sat

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there because you're, it's
Bryant Park.

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You're allowed to sit and watch
the ice skaters at Bryant Park.

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Of course you are.
Yeah, and it wasn't clearly it

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wasn't a closed set.
Right.

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It wasn't a closed set.
There was no notice.

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It was just there.
So like the reason?

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My tag on one of these posts
about the orange jacket guy is

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that man almost died that day.
Poor orange jacket guy.

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But like the reason we were all
there and all there together is

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because everyone stayed in their
seat.

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There are things that are in
your text chat that won't ever

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see the light of day.
Absolutely There are there are

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things that happened there that
really just kind of stayed stay

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between us.
We didn't I mean, like I'm sure

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people did, but by and large we,
the fandom didn't like throw it

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at Chris and Darren.
They didn't, you know, it was it

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was not for them.
They were having their own

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night.
This was.

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For us.
And I just, I continually want

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to encourage us to just we, we
have, we have this.

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Just.
Keep it off the streets.

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You have to.
Keep You have to keep it off the

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streets.
You know, Twitter did not

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Twitter TikTok did not exist
then it wasn't like an Ave. such

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an easy way to do what are they
called stitches on TikTok to to

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take the the video that that guy
did outside his House of of

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Oliver and Ryan filming and
stitch it with your reaction and

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then repost it to another
100,000 people.

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Right.
You just, you saw the the Bryant

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Park footage and you took it
into your heart and then and

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then you and.
Then you wrote a text post about

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it on Tumblr, and then it was
done.

449
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,720
And then it stayed on Tumblr and
like some Twitter, and Twitter

450
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,760
is like its own weird no go
zone.

451
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,080
Yeah.
I always considered the Twitter

452
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280
fandom like a no go.
Like I don't, I don't go there.

453
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,960
Yeah, I, that's not for me.
I can't do Twitter fandom.

454
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,760
I've I've, I can't either.
It's not for me.

455
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,600
So I, I, I like TikTok in a lot
of ways.

456
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Cat and dog videos, Hooray,
there's a lot of videos that I

457
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,920
love on TikTok.
But I do do worry about how easy

458
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,480
it is to take it to the street.
And like.

459
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,080
Got to leave them alone.
You've got to leave them alone.

460
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,280
And it's like on on the one
hand, for me, the thing that

461
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,840
that really sets out of this
video is the the physical

462
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,680
choreography of Buck giving
Eddie whatever the hell is in

463
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,520
that bag.
Like a 6th grader with a crush.

464
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,480
The like little like shrinky
shoulders and whatever.

465
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,280
And I'm going to keep that in my
heart.

466
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,640
I don't need to talk to Oliver
about it.

467
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,920
I don't.
I don't need that.

468
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,360
I don't need it.
And when the footage comes out,

469
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,520
when hopefully it comes out
amazing, incredible.

470
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,880
I, it might be my new icon.
I may finally have to kick out

471
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Erica Reyes for that.
I totally but like it are the

472
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,200
two like there are there are
conclusions that everyone can

473
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,320
draw on their own in their own
hearts about the things that

474
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,680
they've seen.
And for my little cadre on the

475
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,680
Internet, that was a good night
for us, the way we were like

476
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,440
tossing tags back and forth, it
was wonderful.

477
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,240
Yeah.
And keep it off the fucking

478
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,320
streets.
Keep it, keep it down.

479
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,000
Baby, that's going to be like,
my next tattoo is just like a

480
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,840
cross my forehead.
Keep it off the streets.

481
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,200
Somebody asked somewhere and I
don't know if it was A tag or a

482
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,160
post or TikTok.
I don't actually know anymore if

483
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,400
like, are there repercussions of
this footage being so out there

484
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,840
like Twitter, Tumblr, TikTok,
whatever.

485
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,840
And like, no, not really.
It's a public filming space.

486
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,160
Yeah.
If they were not, if they wanted

487
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,280
it closed, it would have been
closed it.

488
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,480
Would have been closed set and
and nothing happens like the

489
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,600
most that will happen is the
next time there's something like

490
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,600
this that they film is they may
put up barriers.

491
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,720
Yeah.
Right.

492
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,480
They may just put up these kind
of tall barriers around the the

493
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,680
shooting space to keep people
from watching what's happening.

494
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,320
That is the most that they can
do because it's a public area.

495
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080
They can't keep you out of the
way.

496
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,520
They can block streets, but to
block cars, you have to file

497
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,800
permits with the city of the
Police Department.

498
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960
It's the whole thing.
And but that still doesn't keep

499
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,040
you from walking out of your
house, right?

500
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,400
Which we know.
Yeah, which we know for those of

501
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,200
you who have missed the the
lore.

502
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Emily and I, when we lived in
Los Angeles, lived like right

503
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520
next door to the high school
where they shot Glee.

504
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,000
And so we we've stumbled upon
many a filming day.

505
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Yeah, sometimes you just wake up
and there's a notice on your

506
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,640
front door that says we will be
filming.

507
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,480
Like OK, but like I'm still
going to the store.

508
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,280
Like I'm still going to the
bodega, I still have to get crab

509
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Rangoon.
But like you guys, keep doing

510
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,000
your thing.
You do you do you, man.

511
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000
But like, and even living in New
York, like there's filming

512
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,000
notices fucking everywhere and
the most you do is like walk.

513
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Another camera don't look in
the.

514
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,960
Camera kind of yeah, like.
Don't look at the camera just

515
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,840
like.
Don't get in their way.

516
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Yeah, don't get in their way.
And are we going to put on our

517
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,120
conspiracy town hats?
Are we going to?

518
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Are we going to mount up on the
conspiracy ponies and take a

519
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,560
little trot?
Oh, that the they were planted

520
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,800
to fill up.
That it was leaked like on

521
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440
purpose because it's, we're
about four weeks out and all of

522
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,840
the other promotional stuff is
starting to drop.

523
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,120
They're the, they're really
revving up Ryan's new interview.

524
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,440
They're they drop the promo
like, you know, if we want to

525
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400
get on our conspiracy ponies
like it's, you know, the time is

526
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,360
suspect.
Yeah.

527
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,680
But like I no, no, no, no, it's
fine.

528
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,680
It's fine.
They're filming.

529
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:55,800
They're filming and you know.
But no for real.

530
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,840
So like this, this is all the
context you need.

531
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,320
This is why we're excited about
it.

532
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720
But Emily, I have a very
important question for you.

533
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,920
Oh.
God, OK.

534
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,480
The tree that's going to crush
my 4th born son Eddie Diaz?

535
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,360
No.
Is it going to be a real tree or

536
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,000
is it going to be some tree
trunk thighs?

537
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,280
Tree trunk thighs for sure.
Oh man.

538
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,040
Well, no, the problem is Oliver
Stark slash Evan Buckley do not

539
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,040
have tree trunk thighs because
they skip leg day.

540
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,160
So, poor Eddie, don't.
Skip leg day.

541
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,800
I've seen him.
You can.

542
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Well, maybe that's why he's
wearing such baggy ass clothes

543
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960
is that he knows the arms don't
match the legs.

544
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
Don't skip leg day.
He needs to do a girly workout

545
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,520
because like he's all focused on
the upper and he is not hitting

546
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,160
the lower.
You got to focus.

547
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,400
You got a whole body, whole body
workout, guys.

548
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Whole body.
The thighs are important my

549
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,640
dude.
Like you got to hit the legs

550
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,480
just because you like your big
beefy arms.

551
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,200
Like you cannot have chicken
legs.

552
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,280
As do I, I, any, I, I was
thinking about it today,

553
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,960
literally every single person
that I've ever been attracted

554
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,960
to.
I just want to take the, the,

555
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,200
the, the, the, the trunk of arm
kind of from the neck down to

556
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,840
like, you know, the, the middle
of the upper arm and just that

557
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,840
whole shoulder and whole back
shoulder.

558
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:18,920
I just want to chew on it like I
that that trunk, the meat of the

559
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,520
shoulder.
I just want to put it in my

560
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,920
mouth and I don't care really.
Like you don't have to convince

561
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,280
me to do arm day like.
Yeah.

562
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Yes, build your shoulders abso
fucking lutely, but like, don't

563
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560
skip black day guys, don't skip.
Like Stark has so much leg that

564
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,040
he cannot be out there chicken
legging it in basketball shorts

565
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,280
on Valentine's Day.
I cannot have that.

566
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,040
He cannot embarrass us like
this.

567
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,720
Right now I'm just trying to
figure out if one of the people

568
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,280
on his team is the wrestler
Bailey or if there's like a

569
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,400
rapper named Bailey.
I have no idea.

570
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,840
I also have no idea I'm crossing
my legs.

571
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Crossing my legs, I'm crossing
my fingers, I'm crossing my

572
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,000
legs.
Let it ride.

573
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,480
I'm crossing my fingers and it's
wrestler Bailey because I love

574
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,840
her.
Listen, you know that I do not

575
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,480
ride the crushing with the tree
train I.

576
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960
No, you do not.
Don't think that that is a

577
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,080
reasonable storyline that is
going to occur in the next

578
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,400
couple episodes.
He I, I just don't.

579
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,240
OK.
And to be fair, nothing

580
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720
reasonable has ever occurred in
a Ryan Murphy, Tim and your

581
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,840
show.
So there's that.

582
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,080
First of all, first of all,
nothing reasonable has ever

583
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,560
happened.
The storylines are bananas.

584
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,040
Characters do things that they
would never do, and things

585
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,600
happen that would never happen.
So like, who knows?

586
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:41,000
I just don't think that it makes
any legal sense for him to be

587
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,840
driving and to get Final
Destination.

588
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,120
I I also don't think it would
make sense.

589
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
I'm going to draw out my
conspiracy hat.

590
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,480
I'm going to draw out my
plotting hat because do you know

591
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840
who would suffer the most
between Maddie?

592
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,360
Between Maddie getting kidnapped
and Eddie getting crushed by a

593
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,200
tree?
Buck, Buck, Buck would get

594
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,400
destroyed.
It would be, and everyone knows

595
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960
that I am a sucker for Evan
Buckley.

596
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960
Womp.
You are, I am.

597
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,200
Just sucker for that but.
I think it's bullshit that

598
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,520
something else is happening to
Maddie if that is in fact what's

599
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,400
happening, because there's like
weird edits in the.

600
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,640
There's there's some weird cut.
So here's the thing I'm going to

601
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600
put on my conspiracy.
My my my official game of Roses

602
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000
conspiracy.
Nothing from the Glee promos

603
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,880
where you're like, oh, this is
definitely what's happening and

604
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,360
it's absolutely not what's
happening.

605
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,000
It's absolutely not.
What's happening, which is why

606
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,960
I'm going to put on my official
Game of Roses conspiracy hat is

607
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,000
that it turns out, you know,
Maddie, Maddie almost gets

608
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720
kidnapped, but then it turns out
that she is totally fine.

609
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,640
And then, you know, everyone's
like, Oh my, Oh my gosh.

610
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,600
I'm so glad that, you know, that
was a real scare you gave us

611
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Matt.
It's like, yeah, it was.

612
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640
But I'm a badass and nothing bad
ever happens to me because I'm

613
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200
self actualized.
And then Buck and Eddie say

614
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,080
goodbye at the end of 8-9.
And then Eddie gets crushed by a

615
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,080
tree to turn to like to make
that the big the big thing.

616
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,920
Because I I also have like 7
competing, you know, plot lines

617
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,960
in my head because I can't put
Eddie in a coma and have an

618
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,560
episode that focuses on El Paso
and him coming out to his

619
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,520
sisters.
Like the two, those two things

620
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,960
can't happen at the same time.
No, they can't.

621
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,679
So like I'm, I'm fighting with
myself, my.

622
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,239
People need to decide what they
want.

623
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,080
I want bucket ID get together.
It's what I want finally SO, and

624
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,760
I want Christopher to come home.
Yes, I want Christopher to come

625
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080
home.
I want Eddie to be a better

626
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,280
father.
I think him.

627
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,199
I think the idea of him
capitulating and moving to El

628
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:41,920
Paso is bullshit.
Like I told you, he needs to go

629
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,840
to El Paso and grab that kid by
the scruff of his neck and bring

630
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,639
him home.
The idea of him moving there is

631
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,920
such millennial bullshit soft
parenting.

632
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,840
Like, OK, well, you can do
whatever you want and as long as

633
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,200
you're not mad, like, bullshit,
go get that fucking kid, tell

634
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,480
him to stop being a baby and
come home.

635
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,480
You're his parent.
Yeah, he's sad and he's angry

636
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,400
and he's confused, but it has
been like 6 fucking months.

637
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,360
Yeah.
For real.

638
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,280
Go get your therapy in Los
Angeles and shut like not to be

639
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,480
like shut up and stop feeling
your feelings, Christopher, but

640
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120
like come feel your feelings at
home.

641
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Like you don't, You the kid
don't get to tell your dad where

642
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,800
you're going to feel your
feelings.

643
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,240
Right and.
You get to feel your feelings at

644
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:25,720
home.
Yeah, you get to feel your

645
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,720
feelings at home with a
therapist you actually already

646
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,000
know and trust.
It's cool, guys.

647
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920
Yeah, like you've already you
already have a therapist.

648
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,240
But no, really, the I, I will
acquiesce.

649
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,400
I will.
I will deal with Eddie going to

650
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,600
El Paso if we get a he has
family reckon.

651
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,280
Sure but I I don't want what
happened with the Buckleys.

652
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,040
I need him to tell his family
the fuck off and not just be

653
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,400
like OK I guess we're fine now
even though you've completely

654
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,840
ruined my fucking childhood and
life.

655
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,000
Completely ruined my fucking
life.

656
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,840
I need you.
I need you to get wrecked, get

657
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,240
wrecked.
I I need there to be a come to

658
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,240
Jesus moment for Helena and
Ramon.

659
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:09,080
Yeah, desperately need it now.
Are they gonna maybe put Ramon

660
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,440
in the hospital with his three
stints?

661
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,360
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.

662
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200
OK, You know what?
If you want to put a tree on

663
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,040
somebody, Ramon, kill that guy.
Oh.

664
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Bummer, sorry or.
Helena, You know what?

665
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,040
Bye.
You know what they can just

666
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,520
have?
I mean, it doesn't work with the

667
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,880
spoiler footage that Eddie flies
to El Paso, but he could drive

668
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,360
and they could meet him
somewhere.

669
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,640
They could do whatever and you
could drop a tree on the whole.

670
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Helena Ramon.
Christopher Carr.

671
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,520
Yeah, see, I just, I I don't
need, I don't want.

672
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,600
You don't want to hurt
Christopher.

673
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,200
I don't want.
To hurt Christopher.

674
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,080
I don't know what Gavin's
filming schedule is like, so I

675
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,520
don't know if that's been part
of the issue, but you could just

676
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,280
have him locked in his room.
I just, I think, I, I think for

677
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,480
me it's making Eddie look like
the bad parent his mom thinks he

678
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,000
is.
And doing this makes it worse.

679
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,960
Like if he.
Were doing this makes it worse.

680
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:08,720
Like he needs to go and be so
unbelievably firm about it.

681
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,480
And I can't, I don't, I don't
know how this ends.

682
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,160
So like.
I do assume we will have an El

683
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,240
Paso episode and if we don't
like what the fuck are we doing

684
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,000
right?
For real, the my little the

685
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,280
things I'm seeing on the
Internet are like, hi, I'd like

686
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,280
a Boston esque episode for El
Paso.

687
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,400
Totally.
And I'm like.

688
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,400
I want to see the sisters.
OK, And I also want to see the

689
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,240
sisters because Eddie's family
tree is confusing.

690
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:35,600
There's an episode I want to
stay in, like season 3 or 4

691
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,200
where Eddie says that
Christopher is hanging out with

692
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,400
his cousins.
Whose kid is that?

693
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,120
Is that who what cousin?
Like?

694
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Is that his sister's kid?
Like does his sister?

695
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Does one of his sisters have a
kid or oh.

696
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,280
Either that like, doesn't,
doesn't Di Peppa have like seven

697
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,960
children?
I don't know, he just says his

698
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,480
cousin.
So like does Christopher have

699
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,560
cousins in LA or like.
Yeah, but it's like an extended

700
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,160
family.
Thing I know, I just wanna know

701
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,240
'cause it'd be kind of cute.
Neighbors, kids or cousins?

702
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,880
I just wanna know if like his
sisters, one of his sisters has

703
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,240
kids, then Christopher has like,
I don't know.

704
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:10,720
I just want to know.
I want to know more about the

705
00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,200
family because I want the
sisters to be supportive and be

706
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200
like what the fuck are you
doing?

707
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,760
Here, yes, I I need the sisters.
I need Sophia and Adriana.

708
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,760
I don't care which one.
No, I want the boys to be like.

709
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Get out, get out.
What are you?

710
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Doing where is your husband and
get out.

711
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,960
Where, Yeah.
Where is your husband?

712
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,400
Where?
What are you doing?

713
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,000
Because, like, you're sick, I
assume that everyone else thinks

714
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,240
they're married.
Yeah, everyone else assumes

715
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:36,360
they're married for.
Real.

716
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,200
I just, I think I this is a
storyline that I'm like actively

717
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,280
annoyed with and I want more
Eddie like I want Eddie centric

718
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,960
episodes like I I didn't dislike
him at dispatch and I'm just I'm

719
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,760
I'm not there yet in my rewatch,
but I I like the idea of someone

720
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,040
trying to be like, OK, well, I
nearly died at my job, but I

721
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,640
like to help people.
My kid is scared and and

722
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,960
actually if I think about it and
I'm you might get there in this

723
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,240
rewatch again to be like, no,
actually your kid doesn't get to

724
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:12,080
tell you what your job is.
Well, the whole thing.

725
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,040
So I'm going back and thinking
about it and Shannon in very

726
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,000
early in very early, like
Shannon memories.

727
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,160
I probably and Eddie begins is
talking about like, Oh well,

728
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,680
there's goes there goes Eddie
making decisions for everybody

729
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,440
else without talking to.
Them he does that.

730
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,200
And I'm like, and I'm like, you
do that and you've continued to

731
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,400
do that, and you're trying to
lean too far the other

732
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,600
direction.
Yeah, so it's like, I want I

733
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,520
know what's best for Christopher
in keeping him here with me, but

734
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,960
this ghost in my head is like,
well, you never consider anybody

735
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,600
else in your decision making.
So he's like, OK, fine.

736
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,760
I will acquiesce to their
decisions.

737
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,920
And I'm like no babes wrong.
Wrong.

738
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,240
Because when he goes to
dispatch, it takes Christopher

739
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:59,320
like 2 episodes to be like,
dude, you'd hate your, your job.

740
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,520
You're missed being a
firefighter.

741
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,720
He's like, you were scared.
It's like, yeah, but you're

742
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,440
brave.
So so am I like.

743
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,440
What?
What do you do?

744
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,720
What are you talking about?
Yeah, it's.

745
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Just yeah, I don't get it.
This is where I want to be like,

746
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,840
tell writers.
You have got to tell me more

747
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,560
about what you're thinking,
because I don't get it.

748
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,720
Yeah, I need, I need, there
needs to be more somewhere and I

749
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,000
don't understand.
Like, I need the episode

750
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520
commentary.
I need the DVD commentary to

751
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,560
know what the fuck you're doing
because I don't get it.

752
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,840
Because.
The only way.

753
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,000
OK, not the only way, but
there's a lot of good ways you

754
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,080
could fix this.
But this is also the kind of

755
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,720
bullshit, and we're not gonna,
we're not gonna speculate on

756
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:39,760
this.
I don't believe any.

757
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640
I don't believe that he's going
anywhere, not long term.

758
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
But like, this is the kind of
nonsense that you do if you're

759
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,520
writing someone off the show.
Sure, yeah, but you wouldn't put

760
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,320
this much long term build into
it.

761
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,440
Like when they write Michael and
David off, it's like an

762
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,560
episode's worth.
Yeah, they were just like, OK,

763
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,320
bye.
OK, bye.

764
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,880
And Harry too.
It just, it happens within like

765
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,640
an episode and there's a lot of,
there's a lot of discourse on

766
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,400
the Internet talking about how
like, you know, Eddie is either

767
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,800
like he's being completely
ignored in his own story.

768
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,200
It's like he's set up this
particular storyline throughout

769
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,520
the last 8 episodes.
Like it, it absolutely is being

770
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,880
focused on.
Is it being laser focused on?

771
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,200
No, but all of these things are
building blocks to something

772
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,200
else and we're just not there
yet, and it's so frustrating to

773
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,280
not be there.
Yet I know.

774
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Because if we're not there yet,
then they still have the

775
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,200
potential to disappoint us, and
I don't want that to happen.

776
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:45,000
Either what I hate to pose this
question when we are.

777
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,800
We don't.
When we're already 45 minutes in

778
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,360
to a bonus episode.
Continue.

779
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,680
What are you gonna?
Do if it doesn't go Canon.

780
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,400
I'm gonna send somebody to Super
Hell.

781
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,640
It might be me.
Like I.

782
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,280
It's a good question.
It's a really good question like

783
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,920
if after all of this, if after
the buddy third act goodbye in

784
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,880
the rain, if after all of the
you know the the tension and the

785
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,960
will they and the won't they and
the fuck bisexual journey in the

786
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,240
Eddie finding joy.
I don't deserve juice

787
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,320
conversations around all of
this.

788
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,080
I just.
OK, not to not to interrupt, but

789
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,400
sometimes phantom sentences are
so funny.

790
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:36,200
Eddie, I don't deserve juice.
This doesn't make fucking any

791
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,720
sense to anybody else.
It doesn't.

792
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,040
I know.
It's just funny where there's

793
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,800
certain sentences in fandom
where you're just like, you have

794
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,080
to be in it to be like, what do
you mean he doesn't deserve

795
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,320
juice?
What do you mean?

796
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,560
He does deserve juice like
they've.

797
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,160
I know, but but if you know, you
step back if you want to play

798
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,880
the devil's advocate, you're
like and he's a straight man,

799
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,240
like.
It is theory, yeah.

800
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,480
I've been hurt so many times.
I've been hurt so many times.

801
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,000
I've only been to super hell
once.

802
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,320
You've been to Super Hell twice.
I've been to super hell.

803
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,240
I've only been once.
You've been twice.

804
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,120
It's a good question.
I think I'll be disappointed,

805
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:22,240
but not surprised I'll be.
It's going to be one of those

806
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:27,000
things that's like, this was a
decision from the top.

807
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Right.
This was because like one of the

808
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,280
my favorite little phantom
comments about 911 and about

809
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Buddy in particular is it's
like, oh, I just thought it was,

810
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,160
you know, one of those Tumblr
things that two beautiful men

811
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,280
are standing too close to each
other.

812
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,200
They must be shipped.
It's like, oh, no, no, no.

813
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,520
The amount of textual evidence
the, the, the, the, the analysis

814
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,520
of the text supports a long term
arc.

815
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,160
And, like, if Buck just, like,
gets back with Tommy and rides

816
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,880
off into the sunset, it's gonna
be like, it's like, I I think

817
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,360
you're wrong, but OK.
Yeah, I think you're wrong.

818
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,320
Like if it just turns out that
Eddie goes to El Paso and is

819
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,400
like, no, I think I'd rather be
here in the place that tried to

820
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,920
kill me with people who hate me,
right?

821
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:19,920
It's fine guys like and that's
The thing is that it absolutely

822
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,680
could just knock a cannon and
like, you know, it comes back

823
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,720
and Eddie and Christopher come
back and they're like, Oh my

824
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:30,280
gosh, it's so great to be back
at the 118 and everything's cool

825
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,920
and I'm just going to go on this
hardware store date again.

826
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,520
Like he's going to continue to
ask Papa to set him up with with

827
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,400
nice ladies like that's that is
possible.

828
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,880
I feel like it's it would be an
interesting storytelling choice

829
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,440
at this point.
Interesting.

830
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:52,200
Or like again like it would.
Be it would be again.

831
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:57,040
Like they did it again, like
'cause I again, I, I think we've

832
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,240
had this discussion offline.
Oh yeah.

833
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,240
But it's like, do how do the
writers know what they're doing?

834
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,520
Or are they just like happily
typing away like?

835
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,120
They're just such good Bros.
I don't, I don't know, I don't

836
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,280
know.
This is the here's the here's

837
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,400
the here's the skinny.
This is why I don't watch TV

838
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,320
until it isn't finished.
I.

839
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,400
Know I know you don't, but I
made you and I'm so sorry you.

840
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,320
Did you you dragged me here and
I'll.

841
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,720
Pay for it forever, I'm sorry.
Yeah, you better this.

842
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Is why we're married.
This.

843
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Is why we're married like I just
this whole this whole thing I.

844
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,600
I know like there there very
well could be just writers in

845
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,280
the room.
Like look at these best buds.

846
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,320
Look at these, look at these
broskis.

847
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,120
Wouldn't it be nice if I had a
best friend who could Co parent

848
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,760
with me?
Like yeah buddy that would be

849
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,120
great that.
'D be nice.

850
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,840
Wouldn't that be nice?
Would it perhaps be someone

851
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,800
that's politely spouse colored?
Perhaps misty water colored

852
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,360
memories?
That's my tag for trying work.

853
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,640
Of course it actually.
The tag was the halcyon night.

854
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,440
Oh God, of course it was.
Hi, Kitten podcast.

855
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaking of sons.
Speaking of sons, my.

856
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Child so OK, yes, it very well
may not Co Canon.

857
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,400
It very only not Co Canon and I
will be staring at the beautiful

858
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,080
linograph Linotype lino.
Lino linograph, I think they're

859
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,920
called linographs, yeah.
Yeah, the linograph of Pink Pony

860
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Diaz that lives on my wall.
Shout out.

861
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,800
You know who you are.
Shout out Eddie's good good Co

862
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,360
lino.
Yeah, it's or freaking.

863
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,840
Tumblr Is Jack White prophetic?
I love you.

864
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,640
Buy all the linos.
For real.

865
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,160
And like then Pink Pony Diaz and
I will sit and be sad and

866
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,160
confused and I will have a lot
of other people who will be sad

867
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,440
and confused.
And it very well may happen.

868
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,840
Because if we're if we're
looking at it from ATV lens,

869
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,760
we're gonna try our best T to be
Hollywood professionals.

870
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,040
They've run out of long term
drama.

871
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,480
They've run out of long term.
Like what's at this point?

872
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,880
They've built nothing long term
for a finale.

873
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:25,240
Well, Cap has to die.
Cap has to die or retire, but

874
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,440
like at that point they have to
set that up.

875
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,800
And that's going to be a season
long art.

876
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:37,640
But like Cap and Athena could
have been a long, like a long,

877
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,800
like a long, a long con, a long
game, you know, three or Four

878
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,760
Seasons worth of back and forth.
They were really only to hold.

879
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,400
They were really only able to
hold attention with Maddie and

880
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,120
Chimney for like 5 episodes,
right?

881
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:53,480
Yeah, they have like anything
that happens now with like the

882
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,560
physical building of the 118,
you can't pull those people

883
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,480
apart.
The kids that are involved

884
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,600
aren't really part of any long
term drama.

885
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,200
This this thing with Christopher
is like the the longest term

886
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,320
'cause there was May and then
Harry's kidnapping and then, you

887
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,880
know, Denny's got some stuff
with like his father and then

888
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,560
his when he gets hit.
So like this is longer term, but

889
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,600
there's nothing series long
there.

890
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:27,760
There aren't really any kind of
overarching cross season pieces

891
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:33,520
of tension left except for this.
This is left, and I know it's

892
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,080
left because they filmed a
goodbye hug.

893
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,920
Yes, they did.
And if they didn't intend for

894
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,320
there to be tension in the
story, they could have just

895
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,720
skipped it.
Yeah, and it's just the two of

896
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:47,160
them.
It's not like the whole 118

897
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,920
seeing him off.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's although

898
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,320
I would very much at some point
like to see a like an Eddie's

899
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,880
last shift that's mocking his
first shift.

900
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Oh yeah.
And that, like Chimney, just

901
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,120
like, plays.
What a man on his phone.

902
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,800
Well, no one, no one else heard
that.

903
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,720
That was just the sound in
Buck's head.

904
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Yes, and that would be Chimney
who's now also hearing the sound

905
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,640
going yes, what a man, but like
this is this is the long term.

906
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,360
This is the long time.
This is the thing and we just

907
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,880
kind of have to trust that the
writers remember what they've

908
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,000
written, that they've that
they've gone back like any good

909
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,840
fick writer and read their stuff
out loud, that they've watched

910
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:32,960
the episodes because you can't
get from you can have my back

911
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,240
any day to you think you're
expendable, but you're wrong.

912
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,480
I wouldn't trust there's nobody
I there's nobody.

913
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,400
I trust my son.
There's nobody in the world.

914
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:48,480
I trust my son more than you to
like to getting you know, are

915
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:55,360
you hurt to fucking the the the
the the bereaved spouse gloves

916
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,880
the to do more to do what you
always do.

917
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,920
You, you like there's a there's
a thread.

918
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,840
There's a continuing thread.
I'm not really a guest in his

919
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,520
house.
I'm not really a guest in this

920
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,200
house.
Like, do you want to go for the

921
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,240
title all the way up to the
fucking poker date?

922
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,880
Like there's too much to be
accidental.

923
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,640
And we know this because of the
comparison that we have.

924
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:29,720
Very clearly there is a very
clear comparison between

925
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,120
partners at work Buck and Eddie
and partners at work Chim and

926
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,600
Head.
Because I guarantee you when

927
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,200
this footage airs, if it if it
airs, I got, I hope it airs.

928
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,560
I really want it in higher
quality.

929
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,240
I'd get that ideas out the
wazoo.

930
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,920
I need it to launch.
Thing for the shot that we

931
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,520
haven't talked about which is
the other footage of Buck

932
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,880
walking away and like pausing in
front of a tight close up

933
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,400
looking for Lornely.
Dude, and he's blot we.

934
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Can't see him as the problem, we
just know that he is gazing into

935
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,600
the middle distance.
No, I I I with my Tumblr arena

936
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:17,440
inspector glasses on.
You can see his sad face, You

937
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,200
can just catch his eyebrows like
over the shield.

938
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,440
And I know a weepy eyebrow when
I fucking see it.

939
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,240
I.
Know.

940
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,280
That man has his eyebrows
furrowed.

941
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,720
He's got big fucking eyes.
Eye.

942
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,200
I can see that shot in my head.
I can see it.

943
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,280
Chimney was angry when Hen was
leaving to become a doctor and

944
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:48,320
was like disappointed.
And hen when she goes to offer

945
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,640
to be like a copilot for
Chimney, there's they have a

946
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:58,200
very similar hug, but there's
none of the IT doesn't feel like

947
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,760
this.
No it doesn't.

948
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,560
It doesn't feel like this, and
it doesn't feel like this for a

949
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,520
reason.
When Chimney gets kidnapped by

950
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,000
what is it Jonah?
Yeah, what's his fucking name?

951
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,000
And he keeps getting like dead
and zapped on the table, which

952
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,160
he did not deserve by the way.
No, and it actually I just I

953
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,480
just watched an episode where I
don't think it's purposefully

954
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,880
what's it called a little clue
laid that that was going to

955
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,280
happen.
But there is an episode, just

956
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,960
one right before I watched,
where Chimney says that he's

957
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,920
going to do that to Buck, that
he's going to kill Buck and then

958
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,880
use his medic powers to bring
him back.

959
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,680
To bring him back.
He's so mad at him for

960
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:43,360
something.
For something.

961
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,560
And I was like, oh Yikes, how's
that?

962
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,000
How's that prophecy foretold
Apollo?

963
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,640
The.
Gift of the gift of prophecy.

964
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,480
How's that kickball?
But, and Hen in the chair

965
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,200
screaming and begging, don't do
this.

966
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Do you truly, in your heart of
hearts think that if it had not

967
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,120
been Hen and Chimney, but
instead Buck and Eddie either

968
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,080
direction, either one of them
getting zapped to death and not

969
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,840
to death, that it would have
read the same?

970
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:23,120
That would have been a a a
fantasy movie.

971
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,520
Don't hurt him, don't touch him.
Someone I, I think Buck would

972
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,120
have just been like breaking
through the restraints.

973
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,600
Yeah, destroying the chair
hulking out.

974
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,280
Hulking out, yeah.
Well, 'cause it reminds me of

975
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,240
'cause I was, I was just telling
you about those 'cause we talked

976
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:46,160
non-stop.
I watched the episode Brawl in

977
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:51,800
Cellblock 911 when when Lucifer
is threatening Bucks or

978
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,760
Christopher with the picture.
Well, he's threatening Eddie

979
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,760
with the picture of Christopher
and and Eddie.

980
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,040
His driver's license with the
address.

981
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,680
Yeah, and Eddie is just like
frozen, but he's got like angry

982
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,800
face but he's frozen.
And Buck is the one who steps

983
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,160
forward, like, don't you fucking
dare 'cause that's his family

984
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,640
and that's his home too.
'Cause that's his family and

985
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,240
that's his home too.
Like it.

986
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:16,160
They have the potential to make
it platonic.

987
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,880
They've had the potential to
make it platonic for seven

988
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,400
seasons and yet.
And fucking yeah that I mean.

989
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,240
And yet you can clearly see
where like guard dog Buck comes

990
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:29,800
from.
Oh, I love guard dog Buck

991
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,440
because.
He is snapping at a chain in

992
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,960
that scene.
He is like and Eddie doesn't

993
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,160
even tell him to like back down.
He gets punched in the face

994
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,520
before he gets.
Pistol whipped.

995
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:41,320
Yeah, he gets pistol whipped to
back down.

996
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,080
Yeah, like it they had.
They've had so many chances to

997
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,040
make it Broski Platonic they and
like they could have.

998
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,560
I absolutely believe that Ryan
and Oliver are good enough

999
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,440
actors that they like can be
platonic.

1000
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,000
I have faith in them.
Can they though?

1001
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,320
That that's a different
question.

1002
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,000
I don't know.
We'll talk about that later.

1003
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,120
We'll talk about that later.
But like the the entire team has

1004
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:13,960
had the chance to make it
blatantly platonic crystal

1005
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:20,280
fucking clear, and they haven't.
And at this point it's just

1006
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,840
going to read like bad writing.
If they don't go Canon, it's

1007
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:29,720
going to read like bad writing.
Like, you know, some kid stole

1008
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,320
an entire paper off the Internet
and then wrote the conclusion

1009
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,960
himself without having read the
rest of the paper.

1010
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,560
Like it's, it's just, it's just
going to read his bad writing.

1011
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,200
And so like, do I have absolute
faith?

1012
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,120
Like no, but I have.
Such I hope on hope while I

1013
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,440
breathe I hope.
And then and then we read Fick

1014
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,680
too.
Old for this and then we read

1015
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,200
fick, we read, we write, we roll
around we.

1016
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Podcast.
We podcast, we listen, we

1017
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,000
indulge with our friends, we
send secret messages through

1018
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Tumblr tags.
Like it also, if a specific

1019
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,680
crazy girl wants to come be
crazy girl with us, We the tags

1020
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,600
are right there, my friend.
The tags are right there.

1021
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,680
I promise.
You don't have to tell us who

1022
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,560
you are.
We're just we're right freak for

1023
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,840
freak, right the tax.
We're a safe place for you.

1024
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:27,560
I promise.
But like, but I just I don't, I

1025
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,520
don't understand.
It's it's been so good for so

1026
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,800
long and now we're just standing
at the precipice of it and I

1027
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,400
don't, I don't really know what
to do with it.

1028
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,600
Part of me is, you know, we get
it.

1029
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,200
It's TV, it's a network.
There are executives there suck.

1030
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,480
I know.
We've been there.

1031
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,200
Just fucking do it.
Just make them fuck.

1032
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:47,920
Who cares?
Just.

1033
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,080
Do it.
It's just do it part.

1034
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,440
So like half my brain is, I get
it, it's TV, it's money, it's

1035
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,960
ads, it's advertisers, it's the
sensors.

1036
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,640
And then the other half of my
brain is like, who gives a shit?

1037
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,680
It's just.
TV.

1038
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,480
But like, you've worked bold.
So like, we know you can't.

1039
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,440
We know what happens here, but
we're like just fucking do it,

1040
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,440
man.
Just make them fuck.

1041
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,800
Who cares?
Who cares?

1042
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,280
It's 2025, nothing matters
anymore.

1043
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Just do it.
Nothing matters.

1044
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Do it.
Just do it.

1045
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,760
Just make them do it.
Just just do it man.

1046
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,320
Just do it.
Gives a shit.

1047
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,200
Lone Star had a fucking asteroid
crash into Texas.

1048
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Who cares?
Oh, poor and poor Texas.

1049
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,120
Yeah, fuck Texas.
Who cares?

1050
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Do you, do you think that
Eddie's going to run into like,

1051
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,600
I'm going to El Paso there?
You go, that's what happens to

1052
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,280
an asteroid.
That's what happens to Eddie.

1053
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,240
His fucking truck is hit by that
asteroid.

1054
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,440
Hit by an ass.
You want him to hit by a tree.

1055
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,600
It's an asteroid.
I want him to survive getting

1056
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,440
hit by something.
You.

1057
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,440
Don't get to pick and choose.
Sure do.

1058
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,160
It's fiction.
What happened to Eddie Asteroid?

1059
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,680
Asteroid Buck loves natural
disasters.

1060
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,720
Not anymore R. 26 couldn't save
him.

1061
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,320
RIP.
Yeah apparently to get there's

1062
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,840
an asteroid.
I have stopped watching Lone

1063
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,560
Star because it was the Rob Lowe
show.

1064
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,960
So.
Ah, yes, but I just I.

1065
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,080
I hope some of them come to 118
'cause I like some of those

1066
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,280
characters, but I don't think
that's gonna happen anyway.

1067
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,240
No, but yeah, OK.
What?

1068
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,280
So because we've been talking
for some time, we need to talk a

1069
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,640
little more.
Do we?

1070
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,880
Yes, we do.
Because we've we've sat on the

1071
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,320
sad boy portion.
If like, what are we doing?

1072
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Doesn't go Canon.
How's it gonna go?

1073
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,720
It's gonna go Canon.
What's that look like?

1074
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,480
How do they write it?
How do they do this

1075
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,360
conclusively?
How do they write it or how do

1076
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,480
we write it?
Because that is very different.

1077
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,280
I don't know, take your shot at
either at both.

1078
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,440
Eddie goes to Texas.
He stays for an episode.

1079
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,720
He gets Christopher.
He yells at his parents.

1080
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,280
Christopher's like, yeah,
actually it kind of sucks here.

1081
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,520
They treat me like a baby.
I don't want to be treated like

1082
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,120
a baby.
And Eddie has not actually

1083
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,720
purchased a house.
He's only rented it because he

1084
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,800
does not have the equity to
purchase a house, so he could

1085
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,840
not have closed on a house in
the amount of time that's

1086
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,560
happened anyway.
So he's merely rented a house or

1087
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,640
he's moving in with his sister.
So maybe he's rented a house or

1088
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,000
he's moving in with one of his
sisters.

1089
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,840
I haven't decided yet because he
only had.

1090
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,920
So everyone's like, Oh well,
maybe he sent some of his stuff

1091
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,480
away and that's why he only has
the trailer.

1092
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,400
He's clearly not bringing his
whole ass house.

1093
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,240
In the meantime, Buck is either
watching over his house or is

1094
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,520
moving into it because we have
to defeat the loft.

1095
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,480
That fuck ass loft has got to
go.

1096
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,080
I hate the idea of lofts anyway.
Not having differentiation

1097
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,480
between your bedroom and the
rest of your life is like, I

1098
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,840
hate it.
I lived in a studio once, like I

1099
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,120
hated it.
Chicago.

1100
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,120
I remember.
It like and that even had a

1101
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,880
wall.
It was like 1/2 wall but like it

1102
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,400
had.
Most of a wall.

1103
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,040
Most of a wall, but it was like
I want a door, I want to slam a

1104
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,760
door.
Let Bucks slam a door and.

1105
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Let bucks slam a fucking door.
So he what we know from Tim and

1106
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,840
Year is that he is going to.
What the kids now say, which has

1107
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,680
become very popular, is crash
out.

1108
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,240
I like the phrase.
Yeah, I think it's a good

1109
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,080
phrase.
Some of the like cringe, I think

1110
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,880
is a terrible phrase.
It doesn't mean anything.

1111
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,360
It has a negative connotation.
I read a whole thing about

1112
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,280
squick versus cringe.
I should have saved the post for

1113
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,960
you.
It was very.

1114
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,840
I think maybe I did like it.
I'll find it for you.

1115
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,600
Because Squeak is neutral,
cringe naturally means bad.

1116
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,240
And I think cringe is such a
stupid fucking word.

1117
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,600
Anyway, so Tim and Ear has told
us that Buck is going to the

1118
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,760
end.
He's feeling a top.

1119
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,000
He's going to spend like a top.
He's going to crash out.

1120
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,040
We don't know if that means he's
going to revert to 1.0, if he's

1121
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,800
going to fuck around, if he's
going to find out, or if he's

1122
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,120
going to become sad boy.
We don't know because.

1123
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,080
Because we don't know what the
writers are going to do as part

1124
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,120
of the problem.
Right.

1125
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,200
Yeah, they're a bit.
They're a bit up in the air with

1126
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,920
their characterizations.
Sometimes I think.

1127
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,600
I think they are going to be
tempted as writers to send him

1128
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,760
back to Tommy.
And I hate that because they've

1129
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,360
been lingering on this like, oh,
I don't want to talk to Tommy.

1130
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,680
I've got a bake.
And like, he's barely anybody.

1131
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,200
Like, you were barely dating
when you were dating.

1132
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Like, we never saw Tommy as a
character.

1133
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,520
Why would we see him now?
But the truck is in the scene,

1134
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,120
and I don't know whose fucking
truck that is.

1135
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,080
So.
Is it?

1136
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,920
Is it Tommy's truck?
Is it just the GMC money rolling

1137
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,840
through it?
Could be either.

1138
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,280
Right.
Like, we haven't seen Buck's

1139
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,640
Jeep in a while.
Yeah.

1140
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,360
So like shows switch people's
cars out with impunity depending

1141
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,240
on who is giving them mad money.
Who is giving them mad money?

1142
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,520
We all remember the the the Teen
Wolf car money.

1143
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,480
Yeah, like Derek Hale went from
a real sweet Camaro to like a

1144
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,400
minivan with no.
Like, what happened?

1145
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,360
You start dancing so let's So
what do I actually think?

1146
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,960
I, I, I kind of feel like he is
going to be a self-destructive

1147
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:52,800
sad boy because I, I think the
network is not going to let a

1148
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,360
bisexual character go fucking
around in a club as much as that

1149
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,520
would be more interesting.
I just worry that the network

1150
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,000
won't let us see that because we
hardly let the characters kiss.

1151
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,520
So.
And that is my read of like

1152
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,040
actual network standards and
practices and what we've seen

1153
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,800
from ABC shows in the past, what
we've seen from 911 in the past,

1154
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,560
how much physical affection
happens between the characters

1155
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,280
in general.
Like we once saw Athena on top

1156
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,680
of a dude in handcuffs.
We haven't seen that shit in

1157
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,280
years.
We sure did, right?

1158
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,640
Like, that was fucking hot.
That dude was hot.

1159
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,520
She was hot.
The handcuffs were hot.

1160
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,600
We hardly see a married couple
in bed together fully dressed

1161
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,520
right now, right?
Like how how did Hen and Hen and

1162
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,480
or Maddie and Chim have another
baby?

1163
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,760
They don't they don't even
touch.

1164
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:45,600
How did they?
How did that?

1165
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,000
Happen Magic.
What kind of magic, baby?

1166
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,080
Is that what the hell?
They haven't been fucking?

1167
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,240
So as much as I I understand the
impulse to be like let buck

1168
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,800
fuck.
I don't see the network being

1169
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,080
let buck.
Fuck, I agree with let buck

1170
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,840
fuck.
I don't think the network agree,

1171
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,640
but you see.
What I mean, like the difference

1172
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,280
between what the fandom thinks
the character should do in

1173
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,320
response to Eddie leaving and
what the network is and the

1174
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,560
writers are going to have the
character.

1175
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,440
Do I think there's a big gap?
Probably, yeah.

1176
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:23,880
So I think the network and, and
the writers are going to go and

1177
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,120
I, we've been very wrong in the
past, right?

1178
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,200
Like Oh yeah, who fucking knows
at this.

1179
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,520
Point No, we have no idea.
I think he's going to be

1180
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,840
self-destructive, sad boy,
because I don't think there, I

1181
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,480
think he's going to feel like
there's nothing tethering him.

1182
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:44,040
And we all know what the best,
most healthy thing that a person

1183
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,000
undergoing emotional distress
can do.

1184
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,120
Throw himself into fires.
Hook up with an axe.

1185
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,960
Yeah, there is that.
Now I don't know if what's his

1186
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,920
face has been, if he's still on,
if he's still hired, right?

1187
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,920
Like if he's still on.
Contract no idea but I agree

1188
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,600
with you I do think he's going
to go self-destructive sad boy I

1189
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,960
think 'cause like to you know
any any number of things that he

1190
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,080
could do there like in this
season in this season alone he

1191
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,480
has already driven straight on
forward into traffic yes he.

1192
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:19,320
Like and that and he had Eddie
at home, like he had that that

1193
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,000
tether to be like, oh, I can't
hurt myself 'cause I have to be

1194
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,800
there for Eddie.
Yeah, but like if that's not

1195
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,560
there, he.
Could if that's not there.

1196
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,480
This is someone who grew up
riding his bike into traffic to

1197
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,960
get his parents attention.
Like if Maddie is in, if Maddie

1198
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,080
is in recovery and dealing with
Chairman, she's and she's got

1199
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,360
enough to deal with.
If Cap is having to deal with

1200
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,920
replacing Eddie and trying to
figure out what that all means,

1201
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,960
well, he doesn't have the time.
So Buck is going, we are getting

1202
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,360
suicidal Buck back, which not
that I like I'm.

1203
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,440
Yeah, I'm more into suicidal
buck than I am ram a tree into.

1204
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,560
Eddie, that's fair.
That's totally fair.

1205
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,840
I like not to say that I love
suicide.

1206
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,480
No, no, I know what you mean.
Like I just, I need to make that

1207
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,480
very, very clear.
As a character, as a character,

1208
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,160
as a character moment in a
character trait.

1209
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,440
I love suicidal buck.
I love suicidal ideation buck.

1210
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,720
I love passive suicidal buck.
Because it comes from.

1211
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,720
It comes from his history.
It.

1212
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,200
Comes from his history.
It comes directly from his

1213
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,120
history and trauma.
I am only worth loving if I am

1214
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:33,080
dead and like I, I'm only
especially, especially because

1215
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,720
we are doing the Buck heavy
hitters.

1216
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,880
We are doing the Buck heavy
hitters.

1217
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,600
This, this whole arc is about
Eddie.

1218
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,040
Of course it is.
But we are doing the Buck heavy

1219
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,320
hitters.
He got dumped.

1220
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,680
Left behind.
Left behind and now his entire

1221
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,640
support system is either busy,
preoccupied, or recovering.

1222
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,040
Exactly.
He is.

1223
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,200
He is.
Literally all of his major

1224
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,520
triggers are being pushed, all
of them at the same time.

1225
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,000
And there might be the feeling
that Eddie is getting replaced

1226
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,760
by Robbie.
Yeah, so though that he can't be

1227
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,680
in a good, especially if like
head and chin and cap, like if

1228
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:17,800
he if Buck perceives them as
forgetting Eddie totally like

1229
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,480
the first time that Buck sees
Eddie's like nameplate on his

1230
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,120
locker gone, it's gonna like
it's gonna like hit him in like

1231
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,360
a weird way.
Buck didn't even like seeing his

1232
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,120
own name taped over for Bosco.
Like.

1233
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,360
Yeah, because he felt like he
was getting replaced.

1234
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,760
It's.
Like it's other people before

1235
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,360
himself, so having Eddie's name
replaced with.

1236
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,440
He's not gonna.
It's gonna be weird.

1237
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,600
It's gonna be weird for him in a
way he doesn't understand.

1238
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,760
And I don't know what kind of
wonderful emotional

1239
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:58,400
conversations everybody has.
I need Eddie to figure out his

1240
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:03,160
deal, whatever his deal is with
one or both of his sisters.

1241
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,800
Yeah, that makes sense.
I.

1242
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:09,000
Also definitely gunning for like
a like a 10th grade kiss at

1243
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,400
basketball baseball practice
like I'm gunning.

1244
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,560
I, yes, I, I think he'll be
home.

1245
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Well, I mean we saw a behind the
scenes of Ryan at the 118

1246
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,320
allegedly filming 10 or 813.
Yeah, so probably not.

1247
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,600
So I mean unless things are
being filmed out of order, which

1248
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,360
happens all the time.
All the time.

1249
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,880
She's gone.
What is it, 89810 back 813?

1250
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,440
So like gravy?
Four or five episodes.

1251
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,640
Is it Canon in the end of season
8?

1252
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,640
Is it Canon season 9?
I don't know.

1253
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,040
I think Eddie has to be the one
to choose Buck.

1254
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,280
Yeah.
I think I think Buck's more

1255
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,080
likely to figure it out first
because he's figured out his

1256
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,480
sexuality longer.
Yeah, definitely gonna laugh if

1257
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,520
Tommy helps him figure it out.
I'm just, I'm just saying.

1258
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,320
It's just a gut.
It's just a gut reaction to the

1259
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:05,960
thought of him.
It's fine, but you know, very

1260
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,320
much like AI mean buck.
Should talk to Hot Priest

1261
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,920
frankly.
Buck should talk to Hot Priest,

1262
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,320
but Eddie has already claimed
that gay for himself.

1263
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,319
He has.
Buck needs his own.

1264
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,840
I mean, there's Josh, but I
really didn't like Josh's Glee

1265
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,279
thing, so.
I I haven't gotten there in

1266
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,200
Canaan yet, but I can't get too
mad at it because we also talk

1267
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,600
about my 11 and Glee.
So yeah, I just, there was

1268
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,479
something about like there's
before Glee and there's after

1269
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,920
Glee.
Like I get what you're doing,

1270
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,399
but but it's like rewriting
Tommy's history too.

1271
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:41,520
Like how fucking old is Tommy?
I that I don't know.

1272
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:46,200
I that no one knows.
But I will say in his defense,

1273
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:53,640
yeah, I think because at this
point, Tommy left Buck, Tommy,

1274
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,880
Tommy broke up with Buck.
This wasn't mutual.

1275
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,560
No.
So at this point, whether or not

1276
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:03,680
Buck is still trying to hold on,
Tommy is probably moved forward.

1277
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,120
Oh.
Yeah.

1278
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,800
A breakup takes about four or
five weeks to kind of like hit

1279
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,359
and settle.
And so I imagine if the two of

1280
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,479
them like get back together,
it's going to be like, you know,

1281
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,040
I meant I I never meant to hurt
you, but like I got to tell you,

1282
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,240
I was into Eddie 1st and that is
going to again, kind of throw

1283
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,439
Buck for a loop.
Like what is Eddie do?

1284
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,000
What is what is Eddie doing in
this conversation?

1285
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,680
What is this is between those of
us who like Peep, what is what

1286
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,000
is Eddie, famous straight man
doing in this conversation?

1287
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,680
World famous, world famous
straight man.

1288
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:41,880
And I think that's going to
throw him for a loop.

1289
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,000
Yeah, I think Buck's going to
figure it out first.

1290
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,640
I think at least he's going to
figure it out on screen.

1291
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,279
I think the thing that we're
underestimating is that Eddie

1292
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:53,479
knows what these feelings are
like.

1293
01:09:53,760 --> 01:10:01,280
Buck does he go like if we go
demisexual Eddie, then he he has

1294
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,640
to combine the closeness of
friendship and be like, oh

1295
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,360
right, romanticism and
sexuality.

1296
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:13,480
Yeah, and I think I what, you
know, in my Magic fan, writer,

1297
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:17,640
whatever nonsense, I want him to
have a conversation with one or

1298
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,000
both of his sisters.
That kind of mirrors the

1299
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,640
conversation that Josh and
Maddie had with Buck.

1300
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,320
Are his concerns your concerns?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

1301
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,440
Remember all the things you
thought about, you know, Tell me

1302
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:33,440
how you felt about Shannon.
What were the things that you

1303
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,600
loved about Shannon?
What were the things you found

1304
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,680
attractive about Shannon?
Is like starts like listing them

1305
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,360
off and then like the other
sister is like, cool.

1306
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,800
Let's write these down.
And I need you to read like and

1307
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,600
like I need you to go through
this list.

1308
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,320
Are you feeling these things for
somebody else?

1309
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,280
Right.
Like completely detached from

1310
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,400
the expectations, like
completely detached from all of

1311
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,040
it.
Like this is what it you said

1312
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,080
this feels like.
Does this sound familiar?

1313
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,680
And he's going to go fuck.
Yeah, Now I would also like some

1314
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,880
levity in this where maybe
they're both like sitting on it

1315
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,800
and being a little weird around
each other.

1316
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,600
For real.
Like the whole of 911 cannot be

1317
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,800
the two of them.
Sad boy.

1318
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,200
No, they need to be a little.
They need to be a little goofy

1319
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,800
about it.
They need to be.

1320
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,240
They need to be.
A little goof boys about it.

1321
01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:24,240
Yeah.
And I I need Ravi to call them

1322
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,480
divorce.
Yeah, I could.

1323
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:29,120
I would be fine with that.
I love that for him so much, I

1324
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,320
love Ravi.
I think, I think it's just very

1325
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,440
hard to to guesstimate what what
the show, how the show would

1326
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,200
take them Canon.
Well, it's it's always like,

1327
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,080
well, what are they doing with
their characters anyway?

1328
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,560
Like, what do you what are you
doing with them this week?

1329
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,080
Like what's?
Going on.

1330
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,560
Guys like how how do you feel
about any of this week writers?

1331
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,280
Do you like him?
Do you want to be nice?

1332
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,800
Yeah.
Do you want to give him some

1333
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,080
cute facial hair in that little
in that little hair flop that

1334
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,960
goes into his eyes sometimes
It's very, very cute.

1335
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,200
Or do you want to shellack his
hair to his head?

1336
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,320
They're.
Like, do you do you like this

1337
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,880
character or do you think he
sucks?

1338
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,400
Like what do you how do we feel
this time?

1339
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,640
How do you feel it this week?
So I think I think the arc of

1340
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,600
their relationship will depend
on how he leaves Texas.

1341
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,080
Maybe, yeah.
And then I feel like I'll have a

1342
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:18,920
better grasp on sanity and, and
to be like, OK, it's gonna start

1343
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,120
now.
I think it's probably already

1344
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,000
started for Buck.
Yeah, it hasn't for Eddie.

1345
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,640
And maybe it.
Yeah, it hasn't started for

1346
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Eddie.
Because Eddie's too preoccupied.

1347
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,000
He's too preoccupied.
Eddie is thinking about one big

1348
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:32,560
thing.
Yeah.

1349
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,280
Buck's gonna have a lot of time
on his hands to be like, my life

1350
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,920
is so empty right now.
Why is that?

1351
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,560
Oh yeah, This is why.
And it I think it's when Eddie

1352
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:46,480
gets back or maybe conversations
with his sister's or maybe even

1353
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:48,480
fucking Christopher to be like
you left Buck behind.

1354
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,720
Yeah, that's and that I think is
going to be where Eddie's O

1355
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,360
comes in.
You left my other cat.

1356
01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:00,000
Yeah, 'cause Christopher.
I'm, I'm hoping that I bring

1357
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,080
Chris home.
Just I, I love Christopher.

1358
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,800
You can lock him in his bedroom
and he can play video games or

1359
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,280
do homework or whatever.
I just, I don't, don't, don't

1360
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:12,120
get rid of him.
I love Christopher, but I think

1361
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:17,040
it's going to be Chris who makes
that transition from dad.

1362
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,080
I'm right here.
I'm really mad at you.

1363
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,600
But I mean, we have to go home.
I can't stay here.

1364
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,320
And he's like, put me how I I
moved here for you and he's

1365
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,600
like, and you left Buck.
And like, I didn't ask you to

1366
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,640
move here.
I didn't ask him what are you

1367
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,280
doing, But I think it's going to
be Chris who like swaps that

1368
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,640
around to be like, what do you
mean you left Buck?

1369
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:37,360
Bucks never left us.
Why did we leave Buck you?

1370
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:44,800
Idiot, you idiot, you idiot.
But yeah, I also just, there's

1371
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:51,320
been a lot of lovely meta and
long form storytelling about

1372
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,240
this, this spoiler shot being
the third act, like the third

1373
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:57,320
act breakup.
It is, I know.

1374
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,680
And the third act in the rain,
because we go from the well

1375
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,840
where Buck lost Eddie to the
lightning where Eddie lost Bug,

1376
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,680
and now we're back to the rain
where Buck's losing Eddie.

1377
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,920
Listen.
And so I they're.

1378
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,040
On track.
Maybe they know what they're

1379
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,240
doing.
I just don't trust them.

1380
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:21,480
I don't trust them, but I in my
little heart, I need there to be

1381
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:25,320
a very early morning with Buck
leaned over a cup of coffee at

1382
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,600
Eddie's kitchen table with that
like warm morning sun at like

1383
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,200
5:30 in the morning because he
can't sleep.

1384
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:36,200
And for, you know, like, I'm up
at this hour because the fucking

1385
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,000
like refrigerator repairman is
supposed to get here between

1386
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,520
like 6:00 and 12:00.
And that there's a knock at the

1387
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,640
back door and Buck goes to open
it and it's Eddie.

1388
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,760
And that the two of them, saying
absolutely nothing, share their

1389
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,440
first kiss in Eddie's kitchen in
the early morning dawn.

1390
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,080
I'm doing OK with that.
That's just that's how it plays

1391
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,280
in my head and it's very soft,
OK, I like soft.

1392
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,880
I like soft.
Oh sure, after you murder him a

1393
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,000
couple times.
Yes, and he comes back.

1394
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:13,680
I don't, I don't murder him, so
I don't think I haven't, have I?

1395
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,480
No.
No, I almost, I, I theoretically

1396
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:19,840
almost murdered Cap.
Turns out he was just fine.

1397
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,680
I did impale Christopher.
I feel a little bad about that,

1398
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,240
but he's cool.
He's totally fine.

1399
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,680
He recovered and his PT went
great.

1400
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:33,320
Great, And mostly I'm just
dragging Buck and Eddie through

1401
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,960
like emotional mud.
That's all I ever do.

1402
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:40,360
Yeah, I'm dragging through
emotional mud, big emotional

1403
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,960
mud, but I haven't actually
injured either of them.

1404
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,800
Sometimes I make them do like
physical exercise.

1405
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,120
No, Buck goes to therapy and
that's fun.

1406
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,240
I I love that that's A tag.
It's just Buck goes to therapy.

1407
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,160
Fucking beats it.
Oh.

1408
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,200
My God.
And Eddie confronts his parents.

1409
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:01,360
Yeah, like that's there, there
we go.

1410
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,960
There we go.
There, there it is.

1411
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,480
Not one person has good parents
on this show.

1412
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,640
Tragedy.
For maybe Bobby, but we haven't.

1413
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,120
No, no, it's sure kidding.
Sure don't.

1414
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,560
Nope.
I was going through all the

1415
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,720
parents.
Maybe Karen's parents?

1416
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:19,880
We've never met them.
We don't know.

1417
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,120
Damn it.
We don't know.

1418
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:23,160
Yeah.
All right.

1419
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,800
Yeah, it's a mystery.
Ryan Murphy must hate his

1420
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,000
parents.
G Yun.

1421
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,920
G Yun has wonderful parents.
That doesn't second Gen. doesn't

1422
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:38,840
count, damn it.
Come on man, it's right there.

1423
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,960
Doesn't count like oh Denny has
good parents.

1424
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:48,120
Like OK well actually no 'cause
his bio parents.

1425
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,920
His bio parents are there's Eva
and then there's the the the dad

1426
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,600
who's trying his best.
That guy.

1427
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,120
Nathan, I'm watching Nathaniel
episodes right now, which is why

1428
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,720
I know his name.
But all right, final question

1429
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,800
before we actually stop talking.
Yes.

1430
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,720
That is only very tangentially
buddy related.

1431
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,960
OK, yes, I would like to talk to
Oliver Stark one day.

1432
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,280
I mean, sure, why not?
I know.

1433
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,280
Cameras no thank you and fuck
ass tattoos.

1434
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:24,240
That is a spiral I would like to
see Buck go.

1435
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,360
On absolutely bring the tattoos.
I know he can't bring the as a

1436
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,920
firefighter.
Did you know though?

1437
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,880
I looked this up, of course, of
course you.

1438
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,000
Did.
There is a petition, an active

1439
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,880
petition out with the LAFD about
letting firefighters show their

1440
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,880
tattoos.
I would love that.

1441
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,440
Yeah, there's it's, I think it
actually went out in 2023.

1442
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,400
And then they are like, there's
going to be a A to do about it.

1443
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,720
And you know how things work in
government like this, like it's

1444
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,080
going to be solved in 2028.
But there's like an active thing

1445
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,000
going on in the LAFD of whether
or not they should be allowed to

1446
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,160
show their tattoos.
I think they should be allowed

1447
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,080
to show their tattoos at all
times for any reason.

1448
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,320
As long as they're not, I should
be able to come into my house

1449
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,360
and just strip as.
Long as you know, they're not

1450
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:10,200
certain kinds of tattoos that we
know.

1451
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,640
I mean, if the police.
Department.

1452
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,000
Has I have a Nazi tattoo then
maybe you shouldn't be a

1453
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,640
firefighter.
Well, I kind of like though, if

1454
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,400
you have a Nazi tattoo maybe,
and now we can see it and we can

1455
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,800
get rid of you for it.
Maybe you shouldn't be a

1456
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:29,720
firefighter, but I digress.
In any case, is Buckley Hahn,

1457
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,880
baby #2 going to be a boy or a
girl, and if so, what is their

1458
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:33,160
name?
It's.

1459
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,080
Going to be twins.
God, I hope so.

1460
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:40,840
They just moved into that house.
They.

1461
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,200
Need I think it's I think I
think it's going to be a boy

1462
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,880
because I think the show won't
be able to resist a boy and a

1463
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,400
girl and I think the middle name
will be Daniel because they

1464
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,400
can't resist because.
They can't resist.

1465
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,240
But I I don't know what the
first name.

1466
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,000
So I am of two entirely
different minds.

1467
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,600
And twins would solve the
problem.

1468
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,200
Triplets would actually solve
the problem better, frankly.

1469
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,160
But I don't think that that's
the kind of drama they're

1470
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,640
looking.
That's a lot of babies on set,

1471
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,400
guys.
That's that's hard casting.

1472
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,240
It's hard casting my gut
reaction.

1473
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaking of writers knowing what
they're doing is that they're

1474
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,280
gonna have a baby girl and
they're gonna name her Joy,

1475
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,800
obviously, because they've name
dropped that word like 1000

1476
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,400
times.
And there's just something

1477
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:33,760
really cute about G and Joy.
It's a it's, it makes it makes

1478
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:39,440
for good cute family nonsense.
If they have a boy, they are

1479
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:43,520
absolutely naming him after both
Kevin and Daniel.

1480
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,480
That's right, Kevin, by
Cadaniel.

1481
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:53,760
Cadaniel Kapow But I saw a text
post talking about, you know,

1482
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,760
like if they have a boy,
Maddie's going to name him Evan

1483
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,760
because Buck's not using the
name anymore.

1484
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:03,080
And I'm sitting here going like,
God damn, that's just the kind

1485
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,360
of bullshit the show would do.
Yeah, it is.

1486
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,840
And I just can't in a in in good
conscience take a take a baby

1487
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,680
boy and give him three names
after like weird dead traumatic

1488
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,320
brothers.
Yeah, that's, that's rough.

1489
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,600
Evan Daniel, Kevin Buckley Hahn.
Buckley.

1490
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:23,720
Hahn.
Like, oh God.

1491
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,680
Ouch.
It's a lot of trauma wrapped up

1492
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,040
in one little baby boy.
That is a lot of trauma.

1493
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,560
I don't.
I don't know about that.

1494
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,960
So I just, I, I thought it was
interesting and I, I, I want

1495
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,640
there to be a lot of babies, but
not necessarily all in this

1496
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,320
baby.
Yeah, that's watch them just

1497
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,760
name her the baby, just like
Bob.

1498
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:49,040
Yeah, this is my son Frank,
after our therapist.

1499
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,200
Kevin.
Daniel.

1500
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,040
Daniel.
Kevin.

1501
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,240
I mean, it's not even like a
good name.

1502
01:20:54,440 --> 01:20:58,680
Well, I think the problem is if
they name him either Kevin or

1503
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,080
Daniel, that like either Jim or
Maddie's, going to have to say

1504
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,880
that name out loud all the time.
All the time, yeah.

1505
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,240
And I just don't think they
could do that.

1506
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,000
That would suck.
That's why they have to name me

1507
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,520
Evan.
It's because nobody calls Buck

1508
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,040
Evan anymore.
But what if like?

1509
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:19,360
Someone wants to like.
And that's why, yeah, it's I

1510
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,320
just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm
just spitballing here.

1511
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,160
I'm just spitballing.
What if Eddie is?

1512
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:25,920
What if Eddie was suddenly like,
you know what?

1513
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,120
I'm going to call you Evan when
we get married?

1514
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,160
I don't know.
What if he suddenly like he's

1515
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,520
called him Evan before?
Once, yes, When it was

1516
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,720
important.
When it was important.

1517
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,040
What if he?
Saves it for the important

1518
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,040
moments.
I don't know.

1519
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,080
And the baby's like it's me.
Very.

1520
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,040
Me, Evan.
And then the baby's like, yeah.

1521
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:52,520
Yeah, but well, Speaking of
babies and buddy, I stand firm

1522
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,040
in what I said in my fic a
couple days ago.

1523
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,720
Eddie and Buck deserve a baby
girl to name her Isabelle.

1524
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,000
Isabelle.
They deserve that.

1525
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,160
You know how I feel about not
everyone having a baby so.

1526
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,400
Yes I do, I do know that.
And unfortunately, you can suck

1527
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,000
it because this is fiction and
not your babies just.

1528
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,440
One couple on TV not having a
fucking kid.

1529
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,600
So to their credit, Bobby and
Athena don't have kids.

1530
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,880
They have.
A million.

1531
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:21,440
We have separate children.
They they.

1532
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,800
They have a whole fucking
family.

1533
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:30,760
I actually forgot a little bit
that May clocks Buck being

1534
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,160
Bobby's son and Bobby's like,
yeah fuck, I guess you're right.

1535
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:36,560
Absolutely.
I forgot that was Canon.

1536
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,080
I was watching Shrinking and
that couple was also adopting.

1537
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:46,760
I was like God damn it, always
one married couple just be like,

1538
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,000
no, we are.
Dinks.

1539
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,160
No, absolutely not.
And the one guy was like, I'm

1540
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,320
not sure if I want to have a kid
and of course he comes around

1541
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,240
and be like, I'm going to have
kids.

1542
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,160
Like fuck.
That's why I always write my

1543
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,960
characters having no kids.
Write the fick you want to see

1544
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:04,800
in the world, Emily.
That's.

1545
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,880
Why my Buck and Eddie never have
extra children?

1546
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:12,520
Well, mine did because of your
baby box and that was your idea.

1547
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,800
I love.
The baby box I just they don't

1548
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,560
get to keep the baby.
They don't get to keep them.

1549
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,240
They do in my world.
That's fine.

1550
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:22,120
We have to get out of that's
your world.

1551
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,720
We have to get out of here.
We have it on the phone for two

1552
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,000
long listen.
OK, well.

1553
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,120
So Buddy Cannon, 2025.
God willing and the Creek don't

1554
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,720
rise.
I don't know man.

1555
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:37,440
Cautious, cautious optimism.
You're still in my rolodex that

1556
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:40,360
I can call.
Actually I.

1557
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:41,600
Don't work.
I don't work.

1558
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,960
It's a pretty short trip to Ryan
Murphy.

1559
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It is.
It's fine.

1560
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:47,480
It's fine.
You're fine.

1561
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,160
OK, well thank you for listening
to this.

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,000
They're not even mini episodes.
We just call these bonus

1563
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,000
episodes because we knew
they're.

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01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:56,840
Just bonus, there's nothing mini
about them.

1565
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,200
There never will be, so who
knows what the next one will be

1566
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:00,400
about.
It kind of depends on what kind

1567
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,000
of footage comes out I guess.
And then?

1568
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,080
You know you.
Can catch us at Phantom on the

1569
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,320
Rocks where we talk about Teen
Wolf and the third season will

1570
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:13,560
be coming out shortly cause
those are getting edited and you

1571
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,440
can find us talking about Glee
and there's like a whole mini

1572
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:23,040
series about the supernatural
prequel that came out.

1573
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,440
We did a whole thing on on that
and all sorts of stuff.

1574
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:29,240
So we'll catch you there and
then we'll see you on the next

1575
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,320
episode.
Wee woo, wee woo, wee woo.