Bonus Episode: 9-1-1 Mini Series #5

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Do not have beer with me.
I have smoothie, coffee and

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water.
Hello, welcome back to I guess

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Phantom on the rocks.
This is the 911 mini series.

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I'm Emily.
And I'm Allison.

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And today we have so many
thoughts about the last two

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episodes that have aired of 911
eight, 14815, I guess

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collectively called Contagion I.
I have so many questions.

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OK, I am of two enormous minds
of this.

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OK so first of all before the
the prologue, the pre prologue.

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This is once again a deeply
spoiler filled episode.

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So the.
Love of all good things, if you

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haven't seen them, if you
haven't been on the Internet and

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you don't know what we're about
to talk about, just stop.

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Just put your phone down, go
outside, do something else.

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Yeah.
Second, I guess we're going to

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be talking a lot about grief and
mourning for reasons.

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And three, what on God's new
year this happening?

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OK, for real.
So I'm of two minds about this,

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right?
Yeah.

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Well, I am of two minds.
The first mind is Tim, my Near

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and friends.
What what, what are you

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thinking?
Look at your life and look at

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your choices.
What the actual fuck?

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The other other part of my brain
is like, hey else, there are

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three more episodes left.
Maybe you should take a chill

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pill and wait for them to come
out because network television

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is allowed a little more time to
tell stories.

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But like, look what, what, what
are you doing?

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Look at your life, look at your
choices.

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What are you doing?
OK, well, first, I think friends

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is a strong word when it comes
to Ryan Murphy and Tim Lenear.

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Also, we are getting Brad
Falchuk, he is involved in this

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too and we just keep going after
Ryan and Tim.

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Brad Falchuk is one of the
creators of this show and he is

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getting ignored in when we make
accusations and.

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Accusations.
I would like to state for the

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record that enemies is also
gender neutral.

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It's.
Gender inclusive, yes.

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So you're all on the shit list,
I guess Ian Brennan is not part

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of this this time, but I'm
yelling at him too because it's

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Glee.
Because you are involved in

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keeping Ryan Murphy employed, so
fuck you too.

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So I'm like, I'm for real.
I'm of two minds on the one

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hand, like this was the what
we're talking about to set this

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up.
And hold on, let's go back to

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the beginning.
Hold on, let's go back to at

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least 814.
There has been a contagion now,

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OK, I have a confession and it
is a confession I am almost

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ashamed to make.
I have not seen with mine own

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eyes 814 or 815.
Sure.

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I had the opportunity to watch
814 and everyone was like, oh,

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it wasn't super strong.
I don't really know what they're

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going to do with it.
And I'm like OK, cool.

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Well, it's a two-part episode,
so I'll wait until the second

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part comes out and I'll watch
them both because like, you

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know, had I watched Eddie get
shot and then like nothing, I

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would have exploded.
Yes.

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And then 815 comes out and it
turns out that they for reels.

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These reels, in theory, have
killed our beloved Daft and

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Bobby Nash.
And.

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I'm sitting here, I'm sitting
here on vacation, right?

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It's Easter weekend.
I'm sitting here, I'm on

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vacation and like the grief just
hits me like a freight train and

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I'm like, OK well I guess I
can't watch 14 and 15 the

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two-part episode because I will
just dissolve.

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So I am waiting until like
hopefully 16, but then maybe 17

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depending on like how long we
can fucking push this until I

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can get an anchor on the other
side.

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I am notorious for not watching
television until it's finished

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for this very reason.
I watched my mother get her

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heart broken and get divorced by
so many TV shows and she hates

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it and I hate it.
So I regularly don't watch TV

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shows until they're like, old.
Dear reader, it's it's

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phenomenal that I got her to
watch this now.

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True story.
It's phenomenal.

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The fact that there were eight
seasons in and I'm just like,

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oh, but it's not finished yet.
And This is why Emily, This is

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why I know.
So I am just, I'm waiting to get

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an anchor on the other side,
Whether that's turns out it was

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a hoax the whole time and it's
vampire Bobby or if we get Buddy

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Cannon or if there's something
on the other side that kind of

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helps me connect again.
Then I will go through and I

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will suffer the, the, the slings
and arrows of Hosier's work song

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to, to, to get through it to the
other side.

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But reader, I have not watched
with mine own eyes, 14 and 15.

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I have seen them through the
eyes of my peers through gift

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sets on the Internet and through
the talkings of our beloved

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buddy network discord.
And but the grief is still

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there.
It's still palpable.

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Oh my God, I'm, I'm like, I'm
just yelling into the void about

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Bobby Nash and into the void.
That's all anyone's been doing

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since Thursday.
And oddly enough, it is Easter

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Sunday as we record this.
It has been three days.

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That's kind of funny.
I mean, as theories go, that's

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pretty funny.
It's like, I do love this theory

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that, you know, Bobby's.
So there's a whole OK the the

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general idea here, other than
the fact that we are all

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delirious with grief.
Sure and deluded.

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And this is nothing to say
nothing of the general audience

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on Instagram, on Facebook, on on
Twitter, the network like this

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is this is Tumblr specific,
maybe TikTok also.

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Yeah, there's TikTok.
Fandom Culture.

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Is.
Like, hard pass we the medallion

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says.
That's dumb and we're not going

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to do.
That.

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So the the number of like alive
Bobby.

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This is how it could all be a
hoax.

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We've been scheming these up
since the funeral.

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Behind the scenes stuff dropped.
The funeral leaks dropped.

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That Tim I near thought no one
was going to notice.

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My God, what a fucking idiot.
Either a bad liar or a moron.

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It's one of the two.
Both I don't.

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I want to say mean things about
a guy I've never met but like

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bro.
I'll do it.

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Buddy Broski he.
Can't hurt me anymore.

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He can't.
He can't hurt you anymore.

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He sure can watch me watch this
whole since past three days,

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it's just been he can still hurt
me.

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Watch it happen.
You know what he can do.

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Oh God, of course I do.
I know what he can do.

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Oh God, Troll.
Oh boy.

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No, no, thank you.
The whole thing about it is that

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we as a fan of our like, is he
dead?

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Is he dead?
Dead, Dead, dead, dead, dead,

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dead.
Like, perhaps he, Tim Lanier has

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done a ton of interviews over
the last couple of days talking

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about like, Yep, Bobby's dead.
He's really, really dead.

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I put him in a body bag.
He's really, really dead.

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We're going to give them three
episodes to grieve.

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He's really, really dead.
And it's like, OK, OK.

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Seems like a weird choice but OK
but the fandom is like here are

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3000 ways that Bobby could still
be alive and I the the the

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religion joke The religion
theory that you have made is

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hilarious because Bobby Nash had
a mother who was introduced in

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an episode called Holy mother of
God and.

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Just now, just this season,
where she's been presumed.

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Dead just this season.
And if it is Mary and Holy

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Mother of God, Mother to Bobby,
Jesus Christ, who is

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resurrected?
And he is.

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Deeply Catholic, deeply
Catholic.

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Like it's so important to his
character.

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He is.
He died on his knees.

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So Catholic, deeply Catholic.
Like the church is a huge part

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of his character.
Like just to have him be

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resurrected through Easter would
just be a fucking hilarious

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hilarious.
It'd be so good.

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Maybe that's why they had to
make why they couldn't move the

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shooting schedule.
Because Bobby had to die and get

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resurrected at Easter.
That's it.

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Not the fires, not the strike,
nothing.

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Just that Bobby had to die over
Easter so they had to do some

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backwards engineering.
I think.

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My personal favorite theory
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Which is always fun.
We love Bobby's magic blood.

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We love a season 1 callback.
Is the Halloween costume by

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this, which I think are I didn't
think much of it at the time,

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but like Buck's coma dream where
fucking everything is coming

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true.
All of them have hit the mark,

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fucking all of them.
All I need now is for Bobby to

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be undead like his vampire and
for Eddie to come out of the van

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closet with his big werewolf
transformation like the rest of

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it is just done.
Chimney with the serial with the

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Jason serial killer with his
wife getting her throat slashed

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open.
Buck dressed as a cowboy with

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his whole like Billy Boyle
scheme.

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And then Head is the mad
scientist with this contagion

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plot like it's all it's it's
actually right there.

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That just requires Tim Miner who
who have planned that far ahead

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and I just that's the thing
cannot.

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That's The thing is that like
people are outlining a here's

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1000 reasons Bobby could still
be alive.

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And the thing about it is that
in a stronger writing team, I

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would say yes, I would say
absolutely.

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These are all planned out like
he was talking about in was it

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like 6 or 8687 something,
something where Brad, Brad,

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Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad
fake Bobby, fake Bobby talks

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Callum blue talks the guy off
the ledge and it's like you

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can't, you can't kill the dad.
Exactly.

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And it's like.
We won't kill.

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He'll wake up from his coma if
you get back on, like if you if

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you get off this thing and,
like, stem sit on the ground.

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Yeah.
And Tim is like dropping this

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piece into interviews.
Like, I was giving, like, I was

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giving hints like I was going to
kill the dad.

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Like that's not what that that's
not what you said.

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Right.
And he also has said that he was

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originally going to kill Ravi in
the contagion episodes.

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So like here OK.
As much as I love Ravi, as much

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as I love Ravi, Different
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Different outcomes and like we,
we've started talking about

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trying to look back on his
interviews and I just I, I don't

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know how much I can hurt myself
knowing how much bullshit is in

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his interviews, but he he is
telling some character stories

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through his post episode
interviews, especially Eddie.

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And I don't know that we want to
get into like the Eddie of it

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and how pissed off people are
that Eddie hasn't been in the

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last two episodes because he's
still in Texas and not getting

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to be there when Captain Dad
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And is that like the?
Fuck.

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The fuck?
But you don't.

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You don't get to tell important
plot points in interviews.

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It's not cannon.
How cannot?

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Cannon, Tim.
They're not cannon.

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It doesn't count.
And then you can't reveal things

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in the interviews and expect
people to, to like, not care and

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not tie that back to the reality
of the situation and tie it back

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to your to trusting you.
Right.

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And do you think people don't
read these interviews?

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Because if you're, you're saying
like, oh, no, actually, I've

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been I've been laying the seeds.
I've been laying the plot from

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from Brad saying such and such
on the on the ledge.

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And I've been carrying that
through to Bobby's death.

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And then also say, actually, we
were going to kill Ravi.

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Those things don't coexist.
No, they're they, they, they

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don't coexist.
It I I just how shows aren't

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Canon.
How shows aren't Canon?

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I can read Tim stop.
Like stop lying, stop lying.

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I know you're supposed to lie.
I know this is true.

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Like, yes, Oliver Stark, our,
our evil British Princess is

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doing the work.
He is doing the work.

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He has been lying.
There is one thing that we will

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do and that is hustle.
That man will hustle.

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And it's like, we know that he's
an unreliable narrator, but it's

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fun.
And that's fine.

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And that's fine.
Nobody should take his his

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Instagram story seriously.
And if you are still taking his

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Instagram story seriously, I
need you to grow up.

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Don't.
He is going to lie to you in all

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of them and that's fun.
It's hilarious.

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He's a Dick, it's great.
He probably has like grade A

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social anxiety and this is his
way to do promo and press for

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the show and feel good about it.
Love it.

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Let let it happen but like the
way.

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Tim's the showrunner.
Tim's the fucking showrunner.

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Like, as much as I, I don't get
to talk about keeping my mouth

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shut, you know, I am a yapper.
I'm a yapper.

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I'm a, I'm in fact an amateur
yapper because I'm on this

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goddamn podcast.
We're literally just out here

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shooting the shit like no one.
It's not a secret how I feel

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about stuff, right?
But in this scenario, you could

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just not say anything.
Yeah, you could just not say

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anything because people are mad.
And it's not just fandom.

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The general audience is not
happy the.

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GA is pierced and I'm optimist.
No, no I'm not optimistic.

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I'm hoping beyond hope.
I'm delusional.

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That you know, Vampire Jesus,
Pee Paw Bobby will will rise

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from the dead.
OK, but do you really think he's

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not dead like in your heart of
hearts?

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No, I think he's dead.
I think in my heart of heart, in

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my heart of hearts, I'm
heartbroken and I think he's

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dead.
I think, I think in my heart of

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hearts, that they have killed
him off in the dumbest way.

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Paw Dumbest dumbest.
In the dumbest way possible and

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like a slap to the face for
real, you take a suicidal

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character, give them to live and
then kill them again.

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He is still building, literally
the beginning of the episode.

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He's still building his home
with Athena.

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They're so happy about it.
What are you doing?

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Like this didn't need to happen.
It didn't need it didn't need to

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his.
Whole arc is wanting to live

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again and and we can talk about
or we should should probably

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talk about obviously this
episode has no structure or

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flow.
This is just this is just anger

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vomit.
We're.

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Just we're just we've, we've,
we've reached the anger level of

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morning at lightning speed,
lightning speed.

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So the idea that Tim has posited
that the show needed realism and

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stakes get fucked.
Get.

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Get out.
Get out.

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This is everybody's wee woo
show.

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This is the wee woo show.
Are you fucking kidding?

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You may have been able to get
away with that in Season 1.

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In Season 1, when I was too
scared to be on, when Emily was

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watching it in the living room
because all I could hear were

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the promos of Connie Britton
going 911.

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What's your emergency?
Oh my God, there's someone who's

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been shot.
Oh my God, something bad is

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happening.
Like I was scared.

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Those were steaks.
I go back into Season 1 and May

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trying to commit suicide.
Is Abby's mom going missing?

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Those were stakes like this.
It has not.

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It's not that show anymore.
No, it's not that show.

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It's not that show.
If they had killed May in the

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first season, you set your
stakes that the main cast can

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die.
That like Athena Grant's

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daughter died by suicide in the
beginning.

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Shit.
And then that's what Athena and

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Bobby bond over is the loss of
children like that.

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Sure, sure.
OK, Why didn't you tell Harry in

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season was at 54.
With the the he.

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Got kidnapped.
Yeah, when he was one of the, I

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don't know, nine people to have
been kidnapped on this show.

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Like there were so many
opportunities to do it and OK,

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do you want to, I'm going to
just veer off.

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I'm so sorry.
No, that's fine.

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I've not had a coherent thought
about this in three days.

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No, I have not had a coherent
thought about this in three

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days.
Somebody on the Internet brought

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it up and as much as it would
destroy me, I'd like to make it

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clear I do not want this.
I do not want it.

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OK.
Of everyone in the room to die.

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Of anyone in the room to die.
Chimney Buck Buck wasn't in the

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room.
Yes, but he could.

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They could have put him in.
The room they could have put him

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in, the room they could.
Have put him in the room.

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It would everything about Buck.
Every rushing into danger

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rushing.
Into danger.

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I, I need.
I was just the guy standing

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there who couldn't fix it, who
couldn't stop it.

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I, you know, my sister is very
pregnant.

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She needs her husband and you've
all got kids, you've all got

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people, you've all got families.
I am the one who can do this.

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I am the one.
He has been passively suicidal

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this entire time.
Yes.

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I don't think we've actually
seen active suicidal Buck, but

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like, we could.
Not since like him RIP roaring

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on his motorcycle is like a 20
year old.

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Right, that was.
Pretty like.

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What are we doing driving front
face into traffic?

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OK, well.
He did I I don't know if it's

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actively suicidal but passively
for sure in the beginning with

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the the running out into the
under the one O 1 on.

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The one O 1 Uh huh, uh huh.
Like my God, man.

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Oh, boy.
And especially if we had set it

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up for a few episodes beforehand
that Buck and Eddie were, like,

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pulling apart.
Yeah.

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Since moving to Texas, as
opposed to getting closer

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together, Yeah, like has been
happening, That absolutely could

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have set it up for Buck to be
like, look, I can do this, get

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everybody out.
Or forcing them out.

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Or forcing them out or doing
something.

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Now do I want?
No, absolutely not.

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I need, I need him to live a
long and happy life with his

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husband Eddie and their son
Christopher.

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And it's going to be fine.
They're going to be fine.

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And his dad, Bobby.
And his father and.

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His father, Bobby, but like that
at least, would have made sense.

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Yeah, true to the character.
Yes, it would be very true to

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character, But this thing with
Bobby, like noble sacrifice, not

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on this show.
No, he didn't need to.

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He didn't.
He did not need to.

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It wasn't necessary.
No, it was.

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It was shock value for the
audience, which is.

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Dumb as hell.
We don't need shock value.

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It's 2025.
We're so far past like let's

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shake up the audience like no,
we're shook.

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We're good.
We, we are, but also like, we're

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in such a climate right now that
man, I just want to watch my wee

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Whoo fire show.
I, I want to watch them do crazy

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shit and know that they're going
to go home at night despite

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having been struck by lightning
and drowned and rebarred and hit

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by cars and gunshotted and like,
and they're going to go home and

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every one of them should be
discharged on medical because

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they can't actually do the job
anymore.

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And yet they're somehow doing
it.

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Like there's no realism left in
this fucking show.

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It's gone.
It's been gone.

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It's.
Been gone it's.

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And I like I yell about the lack
of realism to you, right?

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And then I fix it in fic.
Yes, and then you fix it in fic.

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Right, like.
OK, not to agree with like

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reporters on the Internet,
right?

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Yes.
Not to agree.

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Was it Max GAO is his name?
Yeah, he's been one of them.

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I think not to agree with
writers on the Internet, but I

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believe it was Max GAO who was
like, look, I would have taken,

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you know, get make Bobby, you
know, injured, super injured,

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like medical bad News Bears and
make him like a forcible early

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retirement.
Yeah, sure.

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And you know, we would love a
chronic just for one person to

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have a chronic result from how
has happened to them.

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How was Buck walking?
You know, fucking fire engine on

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him.
How is?

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How is Eddie able to raise his
arm all the way up?

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How is?
Both of his shoulders have been

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shot.
I don't understand.

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Getting like a piece of metal
through his entire ass brain

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like I like.
OK Phineas Gage I get it but

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Phineas Gage lost his whole ass
personality like I.

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Don't chimney got better?
Like what is going on?

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Chimney got.
Funnier like what happened?

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Like just one person to have one
chronic result of what happened

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to them.
Like 1.

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Scar 1.
Lasting scar.

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Athena It was slow for like an
episode.

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That's right, that's right.
She had a she had a limp for

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half an episode.
Half an episode like.

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Just by being 65, like oh.
My God, it just, you know, and

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then at that point you could
still shake up the relationship.

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So I thought I thought that one
through.

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So if Bobby through this
survives but like, you know, has

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permanent lung damage, cough
cough, COVID, or, you know,

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something where he can't do
whatever, then he can forcibly

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retire or get bounced to the
Academy or whatever.

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Bringing up Captain Henrietta
Wilson, obviously.

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Obviously.
Obviously none of this other

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nonsense.
We don't need anyone else.

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Yeah, I don't know why people
think Gerard is coming back like

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that.
Man is so happy to be getting

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served lattes on set.
It's just from the fucking

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funeral, BTS.
Yeah.

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And Chimney is yelling at him
and I'm like, good, 'cause he

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sucks, but like, why is he here?
So no, bring Hen up.

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And then you've got Buck and
Ravi as partners on the

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firefighter side, and then
you've got Chim on the medic

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side.
You bring Eddie back to Phil

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Henn's paramedic spot, so then
you've got Robbie up to Maine.

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You still got the team, but
you've now professionally

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separated Buck and Eddie, which
makes their personal getting

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together better, makes that
makes that better and special

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and different like that.
That works.

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That gives Hen new stuff to do.
Buck and Robbie have new partner

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stuff trying to figure that
whole thing out and like really

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giving Robbie a chance to get
good and develop.

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Give me a Robbie begins.
I need it.

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You know, Chim and Eddie, give
me all the Chetty.

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I fucking love Chimmy and Eddie.
I love them so much.

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But let them bond over
parenting.

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And like, if you know, it's it's
the it's the Buckley laws.

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They're Buckley in laws.
Like they have, they have they

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have things to talk about.
You know, when Eddie finally

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gets together with Buck, Jim's
gonna be the first person he

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tells.
Like it's that makes it

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beautiful.
Because all I want at the end of

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the season is Eddie having like
an Eddie and Christopher welcome

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home party in in Bobby and
Athena's new backyard.

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And then Buck and Eddie sharing
like soft, weird nervous looks

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from across the room because
they definitely made out the

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night before and nobody's.
Talking about it.

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Like that's what I want from my
wee woo show guys.

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My wee woo show, not not my HBO
gritty everybody dies dark

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bullshit.
I watched I watched that on its

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own.
It's.

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Not what I ordered, guys.
It's not what I ordered.

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Thursday at 8:00 PM, I've got a
bowl of ice cream and a blankie

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and I just want some fucking
firefighting, which they don't

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even do.
They don't even do it anymore.

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And that's the other thing.
Like of all the things to kill

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Bobby, you want to make it a
poetic, you want to take it all

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the way around.
If you're desperate, kill him in

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a fire.
We're Backdraft.

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They've brought a backdraft
before.

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Where's Backdraft?
Like you wanna, you wanna kill

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him, you wanna do that, OK.
I mean like you're wrong, but

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OK.
So do it.

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Do it.
Kill him in an apartment fire.

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Yeah, have him saving someone
else's family, Yeah.

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Have him saving someone else's
family. #147 bitch do it.

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The the door number of the
apartment that he busted into

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was 147.
One 47148 was it 147?

451
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,680
It was Yeah, 147.
So yeah, have it, have him bust

452
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,120
open apt #147 and do it that
way.

453
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,480
Like, would I be heartbroken?
Of course I would.

454
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Would it change the show?
Yes.

455
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,880
Should you do it?
No.

456
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,040
But you could.
And it which could sense this

457
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,240
does this does no no wrong wrong
wrong.

458
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,440
Someone, someone, somewhere was
like, oh, it killed the vibe of

459
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,160
the show.
Like it did kill the vibe and I

460
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,400
think they're gonna regret it.
It 100% killed the vibe.

461
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040
It like was has season 8 been
good?

462
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:13,280
Like it hasn't been bad but it
hasn't been great television.

463
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,720
But like looking back at it, it
has given us so much.

464
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,720
If only for mustache Eddie.
Oh mustache Eddie.

465
00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:26,360
It gave us Mustache Eddie.
It gave us the entire Billy

466
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:30,320
Boyle's plot line.
It gave us Hot Priest.

467
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,520
It gave us Pink Pony Diaz.
It gave us Brad.

468
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,360
And none of those are connected
to each other.

469
00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:37,360
None.
Of those are connected to each

470
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:41,800
other.
It gave us like hens victory for

471
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Mara, which has been amazing.
It gave us Eddie and Chris

472
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,800
reconciling it.
It has given us a lot of good

473
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,200
stuff.
Yeah.

474
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,200
And we've been so excited, like
I know on the Discord, we're

475
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960
starting to plan summer stuff.
We're looking at a big rewash

476
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,480
summer of buddies coming back
up.

477
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,600
And we're like, we're so excited
for like a summer of pining

478
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,160
because we're trying to figure
out like where Buck and Eddie

479
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,840
are going.
And it's one of those like

480
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,000
Buck's going to figure it out,
but he's like not going to tell

481
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,280
Eddie about it.
And so we're going to get it

482
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,840
like an entire summer of like
Buck knowing he's in love with

483
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,240
Eddie, living in Eddie's house
with Eddie and Christopher.

484
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,880
Like that's, that was what we
were looking forward to the

485
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,480
summer.
We were looking forward to it.

486
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,640
And Thursday rolls around and
like I get up Friday morning

487
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,880
when my my US Americans are like
just finishing the episode and

488
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,440
everyone is just stunned and sad
and ever.

489
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,760
And like my whole dash, my whole
discord is like, I don't even

490
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,400
want to make stuff.
I don't.

491
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,560
Even know.
I can't even go back to Season 1

492
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,200
and make other stuff.
It's just, it's too sad.

493
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,200
The the time zones.
The time zones are the funniest

494
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,840
thing to me because like I'm
watching it when you start to

495
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,000
get up and text me about it.
Yes.

496
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,960
So like I'm mid episode and it's
like, oh, there she is.

497
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,920
Good morning.
So, but I'm, I'm like some,

498
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,640
depending on how busy work is,
I'm sometimes just signing off

499
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:06,800
when the episode starts to air
and I, I can see like, oh,

500
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,840
there's no live blogging, right?
There's like, and like I'll

501
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240
start making dinner and whatever
and I'll like refresh the dash

502
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,760
because I, I just don't give a
fuck about spoilers anymore.

503
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,120
Like there's no one tags, no one
knows how to work Tumblr

504
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,280
anymore.
So it's like you'll see the live

505
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,640
blogs and you'll see like
everyone's first screen caps and

506
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,800
and rough draft gifts coming out
and you're like, oh, there's

507
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,680
nothing there's.
Nothing.

508
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,880
That it's dead.
Like, oh, it's bad, it's not

509
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,040
good.
Yeah, it's, it's not great.

510
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,560
It killed it, in fact killed the
vibe and it's starting to come

511
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,680
back.
Like I'm starting to get it

512
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,120
back, but only because everyone
on my side of the Internet is.

513
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:53,080
So he's leaning so heavily on
they can't kill him for real

514
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,080
guys, they can't do it.
OK, but let's in in that

515
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,640
direction.
I think that would be

516
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,600
narratively worse to bring him
back after all of this.

517
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200
Like you filmed the funeral.
You're going to show a funeral

518
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,480
in possession.
They're not going to spend all

519
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,080
that money on a on an April
Fool's Day prank, right?

520
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,960
It it's not going to be that the
next episode rolls around and

521
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,560
it's not in the show, right?
Like it's not going to have been

522
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,000
of fake filming because that's
expensive outdoor filming to

523
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,920
have that many, that many
extras, that many background

524
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,760
that long, that long of filming
that was at least a day and a

525
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:34,080
half like that much equipment
like so it's real footage.

526
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,320
So I think it is, it is a Ryan
Murphy show.

527
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,160
I, I think it is worse for the
show and the trust between the

528
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,800
show and the audience for it to
be a fake out, for it to be like

529
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,280
the witness protection that we
were talking about originally.

530
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,080
Like I think that is a a better
if, if they're gonna fake kill

531
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,640
him.
Witness protection is funnier.

532
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,640
But it's too late now, right?
Yeah.

533
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,960
And that's The thing is that it
has generated such a strong

534
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,680
reaction from from all sides of
the audience.

535
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Yeah, with all of the interviews
that he's done to then in

536
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,760
another episode be like, OK, but
like witness protection because

537
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,440
the Mexican cartel burned down
his house.

538
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,280
Like no one remembers that
because you've never brought it

539
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,720
back.
Yeah, like who did burn down

540
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,080
their house?
Does anyone?

541
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,800
What the fuck happened with
that?

542
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,440
And if you read his fucking post
episode interviews, it was

543
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,960
supposed to have been a mirror.
He's.

544
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,280
Supposed to have been and then
he was like, no, but he's not a

545
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,680
bad guy like.
He's like, oh, now I've met the

546
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,800
actor and we've gotten to know
him and he can't be the bad guy

547
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,520
like.
Then don't fucking write.

548
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,160
It you wrote the show so that it
was supposed to have been a

549
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,600
mirror burning down his house
out of anger and resentment for

550
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720
him, for Bobby killing his
fucking family.

551
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,760
That makes sense.
But then you've got to know.

552
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,640
The but like.
Is it sad and bad?

553
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,800
And like, sometimes you have an
actor that you like and you have

554
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,360
to make him do bad things.
Yeah, That's called

555
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,360
storytelling, my man.
No, sorry.

556
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,400
But then then you met the actor
and you're like, he was a teddy

557
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
bear.
Like, yeah, yeah, some of them

558
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,880
are.
And you still cast them in

559
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,720
things that you make them do bad
shit.

560
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,440
That's why they're actors.
Like, only some actors are bad

561
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720
people in person too.
And they still get hired.

562
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,840
Like we're still out here hiring
some real Dick bags to do that.

563
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Like, OK, great.
But you can't change it mid

564
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,800
course just because you've like,
you like the actor.

565
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,880
But he did.
And now the the narrative behind

566
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,600
Bobby and Athena's house burning
down doesn't make any fucking

567
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320
sense.
So it's just a dangling

568
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,480
participle in the story,
including the woman who shows up

569
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,200
at Athena's house and like the
the the rubble of it to like

570
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,680
awkwardly be like, oh, I'm the
neighbor you've never met after

571
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,360
living for.
Who was?

572
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,400
That what was that?
I'm still mad about her and it's

573
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,640
been a season like I.
Will it OK?

574
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,600
I cannot see, unfortunately,
whether or not Bobby is alive or

575
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:17,640
dead for real.
He has ruptured trust with the.

576
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,160
Audience.
Oh yeah.

577
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,000
Like there, there's no coming
back from this.

578
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,760
There's you can, you can slap a
bunch of band aids on and be

579
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,000
like, oh, it's not really dead.
Or you can really attempt to

580
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,320
kill Bobby.
And like, let us mourn for

581
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,120
three, for three weeks.
I guess it'll be 5 total cuz

582
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,800
we're all still mourning now,
but not in a real way.

583
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,640
We're all sort of hoping.
Because it's.

584
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,480
Addiction and you can't kill
Jesus.

585
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,000
He is risen.
It is.

586
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,400
He is risen.
It is time.

587
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Like you're gonna give us three
weeks to mourn and then just

588
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,880
expect us to be back in the
fall.

589
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Yes, OK.
And before we move on to that,

590
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,640
the fucking song that they
played over Josier's work song

591
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,600
ain't.
No.

592
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Great if you if you don't.
Want people to think that you're

593
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,200
fucking with them?
You have a song that includes No

594
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,160
Grave Can Hold My Body Down.
I'll crawl home to her over

595
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Athena.
Like, uh huh.

596
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,440
A whole thing is like, I was
three days on drunken sin, like,

597
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560
yeah, three days of the
resurrection.

598
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,240
The what are you doing?
I think he just picked this song

599
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,240
because it was like.
Apparently the song.

600
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,000
OK, well we don't like her
anyway.

601
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,240
So like I'm saying, I.
Hope you know that I'm

602
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,960
physically tugging my shirt away
from my body in like.

603
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,960
Rage.
Yes, like the problem with doing

604
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Not Anger sweats actually,
because it's cold down here.

605
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,800
The problem with doing a podcast
is I cannot stand up and walk

606
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
around the way I do when I'm on
the phone with you.

607
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,560
I understand, very sorry.
Like if GIF makers can pay

608
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,440
attention to lyrics.
So can you, So can you.

609
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,560
You can't.
You can't tell me that the Ed

610
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Sheeran wait for me to come home
and then like Eddie knocks on

611
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,760
Buck's door with Christopher.
Like, you can't fucking tell me

612
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,280
that was an accident like.
Picking this music costs money

613
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,400
for the network.
This is some of the most

614
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,880
expensive shit you can do for a
movie and ATV show is the music.

615
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Yeah.
This is expensive shit and you

616
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680
picked you picked work song
crawling home.

617
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120
Did you like?
Really you picked work song like

618
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,280
OK, the the noise that.
Came out of my mouth when this

619
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,880
started playing like I'm glad I
was alone.

620
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,360
So like, I I think he's dead,
Like dead dead.

621
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,040
And and in part because I'm
having such a hard time

622
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:56,720
believing that that in in our
big year of 2025 on TV, someone

623
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,440
would pull a bullshit psych.
He's not dead.

624
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,480
I only think he's dead because
it will hurt me too much to

625
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,560
believe he's alive.
Sure.

626
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,199
Like I need, I need to do that
thing that our grandma has

627
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:12,920
always warned us about.
I need to borrow grief.

628
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,679
I need to walk into it as
opposed to getting slapped in

629
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,080
the face with it.
Yeah, like I need as much time

630
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,000
as possible to walk into it.
Otherwise I would catatonic over

631
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,760
a fictional character because
fiction feels real.

632
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,440
It does feel real.
That's the great part about it.

633
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,280
But you know what's worse
though, is they did just have

634
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,360
that episode where that guy
buried his wife under the flower

635
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,120
bed and she was alive.
Yeah, and she was alive, like.

636
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,840
Again, physically hate this
show.

637
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,800
If I had more faith in the
writers, if I had more faith in

638
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,440
the team, which unfortunately
for me I do not, there are so

639
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,800
many Easter eggs that could that
could be plucked out from the

640
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,880
season as a whole for a Bobby
resurrection arc.

641
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,840
Sure.
Yeah, so many, so many.

642
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,400
The fact that it aired on Easter
weekend alone, the.

643
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Fact that there's a goddamn El
Paso fire truck at his fucking

644
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,320
funeral.
Yes.

645
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,880
That's the one that gets Do he
drive the truck?

646
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,400
He's not hired by the El Paso
Fire Department.

647
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,520
Why is that truck there?
Why is it?

648
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,680
There like this is the he's an
Uber driver.

649
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,760
Uber driver.
I love it.

650
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,360
Eddie Diaz, my 4th born son, my
beloved slutty tank top horse

651
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,080
strand.
Eddie Diaz, my beloved, but like

652
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
that man, is not hired by the El
Paso Fire Department.

653
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,120
He why?
Why would there be an engine

654
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,160
there?
Why?

655
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,640
And like, he doesn't even have a
connection to them.

656
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,560
He had a job interview.
Yeah.

657
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
And they said no.
They they yeah, they're like

658
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,040
positions are frozen.
I can't do anything if they if

659
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,000
they on hire, I'll call you.
So it's not even like it's not

660
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880
even like they know him to be
like, you know who, who would

661
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,200
drive him is the the one.
Oh my God, What is their

662
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,080
station?
The 126 in Texas?

663
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,400
Yeah, the the, the.
Lone Star.

664
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,000
Was it Austin?
Yeah, Austin.

665
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,360
Yeah, yeah, Austin.
They like his ass more.

666
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Where's?
Where's?

667
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,880
Oh my God, What's her name?
Yeah, Marjon, Firefox.

668
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Yeah, where's Marjon?
So like, if if for fucking real.

669
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,200
Like the the Lone Star
crossover, like, you know, if

670
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,920
all of a sudden outside of
outside of Eddie's house in El

671
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,920
Paso, the fucking like Austin
Fire department truck pulls up

672
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,480
and Marjon and Judd and, you
know, TK roll out and be like,

673
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400
hey, so we heard you're going
back to LA.

674
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,760
We want to come.
That makes more sense.

675
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,880
For real, I've.
Absolutely no idea.

676
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,880
I think my not that it's my
biggest.

677
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,880
My biggest problem is that they
killed Bobby fucking Nash.

678
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,840
No, no idea.
What a dumb fucking idea.

679
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,280
That what a dumb idea.
And and so like, OK, if it had

680
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:46,240
been Peter Krauser's Krauser, if
it had been his idea, if he was

681
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,760
like, listen, it's been 8 almost
nine years.

682
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,720
I am an older actor.
I am ready to do something else.

683
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:56,720
I'm ready to slow down.
I am whatever.

684
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,720
I'm the EP on the show, I'm
going to continue to make money

685
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,080
from it.
It's cool.

686
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,160
I'm ready to back down.
That's one thing, right?

687
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,920
And then you can retire him off
the show.

688
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,600
You can whatever, but clearly he
didn't want to.

689
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,560
Yeah, because they've said it a
number of Times Now that it was

690
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:20,080
a, quote, creative decision, not
the actor being like, get me off

691
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,840
this.
Or he didn't like it cast in

692
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,720
something.
Else.

693
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,680
Yeah, he wasn't.
Yeah, Yeah, he wasn't.

694
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,400
Attached to anything else.
No, he's not attached to

695
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200
anything else.
He just, and, and he wrote a

696
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,920
fucking letter to the to the
audience, which we've seen from

697
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,240
Darren fucking Chris when the
the clean cheating storyline

698
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:42,440
happened and he had to write a
fucking Facebook letter to the

699
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,040
audience to be like, hey, I love
this show and I love everything

700
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,480
about it.
And something's going to happen

701
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,440
on tonight's episode.
And don't be mad.

702
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,320
Like it sucks and I'm sorry and
it.

703
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,240
Wasn't me and I'm sorry and it
was the same vibe as that 12

704
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,640
fucking years later to have to
tell people like hey, I'm it not

705
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,480
it wasn't me.
I love it.

706
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,360
I'm sorry, Peace and love like.
Peace and love Bobby and.

707
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Another Ryan Murphy show getting
a letter from an actor to the to

708
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,520
the audience being like, I'm so
sorry.

709
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,240
Like everything about this was a
mess.

710
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,600
They, I, I where do they, where
do they go from here?

711
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,680
Like I'm just at this point,
like they cannot ruin my trust

712
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
anymore if Bobby for realsies
ends up dead.

713
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Like I may not come back for
season 9.

714
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,880
I probably won't watch the rest
of the season.

715
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,160
I'll just see it through the
Internet and I probably won't be

716
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,280
back for Season 9.
OK, but then what are you going

717
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,560
to do?
Teen Wolf.

718
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
We're going to do Teen Wolf.
But we need many episodes

719
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000
because I need someone to yell
about this.

720
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,480
Well then I will yell about it
from a fandom perspective

721
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,920
because that's all I'll fucking
see.

722
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000
And then you can watch Cam.
That's fine.

723
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,720
I'll just.
Watch the Buddy Supercuts.

724
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480
It's fine.
Where's my Lord?

725
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,960
Supercut gift set.
They haven't.

726
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,280
They haven't put it in the.
Show yet that's true.

727
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,560
They haven't.
They haven't done it yet.

728
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,200
Fine.
Yeah, I don't, I mean, I'll.

729
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,360
OK, well, OK, so I don't know
what they're doing.

730
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,760
I well, no, what they're doing
is a white guy thinks that this

731
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:14,800
is the only way to create buzz
and excitement and stakes in a

732
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,440
narrative and and he's been
doing and if you really think

733
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,440
about it, he's been doing this
for seasons.

734
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:25,640
It is hitting hens kid with a
car immediately after she gets

735
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,360
custody back.
It's smashing den Denny with a

736
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,000
car and doing a field blood
transfusion.

737
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Like why?
Why did why she just got custody

738
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,240
back and you smoosh him with a
car on Halloween.

739
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,120
Like, what was the point?
It had no stakes.

740
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,240
It's never been brought up
again.

741
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,120
He's fine, but you just do it.
I would rather.

742
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,320
I would rather.
Everyone have impenetrable plot

743
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,280
honor in my stupid WI Wu show
then whatever the fuck this is

744
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,400
Like yeah you want and his you
want to.

745
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,200
Drop.
Drop buck into a hole You want

746
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,200
to set head on fire?
You want to, you know, get

747
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Chimney kidnapped by aliens.
Cool, amazing, awesome.

748
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,840
Can't wait to hear about it at
the next BBQ.

749
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Let's go.
Does any of this happen to B?

750
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Shift No.
No.

751
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,440
Probably not.
Probably not.

752
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Which is why Ravi.
Is so nervous to be back when

753
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,720
they.
He's putting in for a transfer

754
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,400
as we speak, as we speak.
Get Me Out of.

755
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,320
Here like actually I.
Want the night shift?

756
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,760
I'm done.
I'm out.

757
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,400
Like.
I thought of the thought of

758
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,600
them.
Actually committing to this

759
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,560
committing.
Murder.

760
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,040
Where do they go?
From here, well, what they do is

761
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,440
you become.
Grey's Anatomy where every

762
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,680
character dies now and you just
keep replacing them with new

763
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,840
people.
Wrong.

764
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,480
I don't want new people.
I don't want new people, so I.

765
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,240
I told you, I think they're
going to stunt cast a new

766
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:43,320
captain instead of promoting
from within.

767
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,040
It's the dumbest idea.
I.

768
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,400
Think it's the dumbest idea too.
But that that is my probably

769
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,280
wrong but what feels right for a
network show dude if they end

770
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,680
up.
Casting a new captain, It means

771
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,440
the show is circling the drain.
Yeah, I mean.

772
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,000
So they're already renewed for
Season 10.

773
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,480
They can or sorry, nine.
I was like they did not get.

774
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,400
Renewed for sorry bullshit.
I'm my.

775
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,360
Brain has already.
Moved past nine, we're like fuck

776
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,680
this.
They've already been renewed for

777
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,440
9.
They can have their episode

778
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,760
order cut.
Yeah, because anything is

779
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,200
possible.
So sick day 814 their ratings

780
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,560
were 4.47.
Lab Rats was 3.81.

781
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:27,800
Like people?
Did not.

782
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,920
Come back for it.
There was a not there was

783
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,440
another.
Like, I think that was a long

784
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,600
order crossover that pulled
viewers from from Lab Rats,

785
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,880
Yeah.
Maybe.

786
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,080
I'd be curious to see what the
how they include like the

787
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,600
streaming numbers.
If there are streaming numbers,

788
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,200
'cause.
I don't know, you know, if.

789
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Yeah, it's hard to know how they
do that.

790
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,040
But like, or was it Matlock
earlier in the season?

791
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,200
They were pulling 5.1 raw
viewers.

792
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:02,200
They were.
So disconnected had 5.04, so

793
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,960
final approach at 5.52 see it's
going down.

794
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,680
Throughout the season, it it
bobbles.

795
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,280
You know, invisible was 4.13,
sick day was 4.47, probably

796
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,680
because they were like, oh, it's
a big thing.

797
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,760
And then people saw 414 and were
like no thank you.

798
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,480
Or five, four 14814 and we're
like no, thank you.

799
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,880
I.
Don't think the ratings have

800
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,560
anything to do with Eddie.
I'm sorry.

801
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,200
I don't think it has to do with
the actual plot.

802
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,840
I mean, like, I'm sad about
Eddie.

803
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,600
I am sad about it too.
The.

804
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Entire reason and Eddie wasn't
there.

805
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,240
Is because he would have stopped
it.

806
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,520
It's fine.
Yes, absolutely.

807
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,600
That's a.
Hundred, a hundred percent,

808
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640
100%.
Well, it's it's actually not.

809
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,960
I'm sure that those are just
like the episodes that Ryan got

810
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,080
vacation for.
He's he's allowed to like not be

811
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,720
on, not be filming every single
day of his life.

812
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,840
Well, they still don't know what
they're doing.

813
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,480
With Eddie anyway.
So like it's the dumbest idea I

814
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,400
know What?
To do with Eddie.

815
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,560
Easy done, Easy I.
Do you know how many episodes

816
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,400
season 9 is supposed to be?
Did they get 18?

817
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,000
I don't know.
I want to say.

818
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480
They got renewed for a full a
full season, but I don't I

819
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,680
can't.
Oh yeah, it's an 18 episode

820
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,040
order.
According to a deadline, OK, but

821
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,400
it can get cut.
It can get.

822
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,080
Yeah, they can have their.
Episode order cut if they're if

823
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,320
their ratings tank, if the
network isn't happy with them.

824
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,920
The other thing that can happen
to them if the network isn't

825
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,200
happy is the showrider can be
replaced.

826
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Bye bye Tim Ineer's.
Job is not.

827
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,560
Secure the fandom has nothing to
do with that.

828
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,720
There's nothing we can do to
fire him, which is unfortunate.

829
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,840
There is no petition you can
sign.

830
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,800
There is no calling you can do
to the network to get rid of

831
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,320
him.
That's going to be an internal

832
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,000
process and more than likely
they would hire from within.

833
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,080
Although they could bring in a
showrunner from the outside, but

834
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,640
they they could promote an
internal writer to showrunner.

835
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,240
However, yes.
Oh no.

836
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:04,680
Just.
Like.

837
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,360
They they they could do it.
They could do it.

838
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,120
It is possible.
But once again, I think it was

839
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,680
I.
Think it was Max Gao who was

840
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,760
like, well, the steward of the
show took a big swing.

841
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,320
Yeah, he did.
And now we're going to see how

842
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:24,480
it how it falls.
Yeah, yeah.

843
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,200
I just.
It's no.

844
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,480
And, and to be fair, to be fair,
the Tumblr audience and the

845
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,360
general audience are not the
same people.

846
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,720
No, they're not.
But Captain Dad.

847
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,560
Is probably a more liked
character for the general

848
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,320
audience than than like Buck and
Eddie.

849
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Yeah.
So Buck and Eddie is?

850
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:47,880
For us, it's.
Bangela.

851
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,200
Yeah, Peter Crowser and.
And Angela Bassett are so much

852
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,440
more well known to the GA than
they are or than than Oliver

853
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,360
Stark and Ryan Guzman are to us,
right?

854
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,880
It's, you know.
They're they're sticking around.

855
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,240
The people who actually TuneIn
on Thursday nights are sticking

856
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,760
around for Bobby and Athena.
They're sticking around for

857
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Peter and Angela.
That's who they're watching.

858
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
And the fact that you just
killed off the number 2 on your

859
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,080
call sheet?
Wild.

860
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,480
Wild, that was.
It's such a choice.

861
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,200
It's such there's a big creative
swing and then there's whatever

862
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,920
the fuck this was.
Yeah, I think it's some.

863
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,800
Ego I think it's I think it's
some ego.

864
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,240
I think it's believing that your
show is untouchable.

865
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,920
Although at the same time that
idiot was like, I didn't think

866
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,040
anyone cared that we were
filming on Pico in the middle of

867
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,200
Los Angeles like, well, then
you're dumb.

868
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,040
All right, so here's here's.
The here's the question as I as

869
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,120
I ask it with a with just a rock
pit in my stomach.

870
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,960
Will it get cancelled?
I don't know.

871
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,800
No, I don't at this point.
You don't care.

872
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,600
Buck and Buddy.
Just hit 40,000, works on AO3

873
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,240
like it'll take us some time to
read it's.

874
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,560
Canon to us.
Like you can't kill Starek, you

875
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,280
can't kill buddy.
Like I don't for sure.

876
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,720
Like not to say I don't care
because those two, I need them

877
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,000
to go Canon, but like at that
point, at this point, I'm not

878
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,800
even worried about them because
like, what is the show going to

879
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,240
look like?
What's the audience going to

880
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:20,920
look like?
Where do they go?

881
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,640
If they actually go through with
it?

882
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:29,520
If they actually actively fact
kill Captain Dad, What?

883
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,040
Where do we go from here?
Where does that?

884
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,240
Go well, I think there's what
the the fandom thinks the show

885
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,480
will do, and I think there's
what Tim I near thinks the show

886
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,720
will do OK.
What let's let's walk through

887
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,200
one piece at a time.
What does the what does the

888
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,960
fandom think?
Well, I think the fandom, I

889
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,960
think.
The fandom would think that, you

890
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,640
know, we get some beautiful
episodes of grief and Eddie

891
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,320
coming.
So apparently Eddie's back for

892
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,360
like the last couple episodes.
Good, because that's in.

893
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,280
Well.
Because Tim is a fucking liar

894
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,680
though, so who knows.
But he says he'll be there for a

895
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,440
few episodes.
He's there for the funeral.

896
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,880
Unless he's staying in a hotel,
he'll be at the house.

897
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,400
But I actually wouldn't put it
past him to put him in a hotel.

898
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,680
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?

899
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Yeah, absolutely.
I think, I think the expectation

900
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,680
is like, oh, we're all going to
deal with the death, right?

901
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,440
Like a chimney is going to have
guilt.

902
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,760
Buck is going to think that he
could have done more to save

903
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,040
him.
He's not going to know how to

904
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,160
step up as a leader after after
Bobby tells him like they're

905
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,920
going to need you, which is way
to put that on someone's

906
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,560
shoulder when you're dying for
real.

907
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,400
That's a.
That's a.

908
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,600
Lot to.
To say to someone who has just

909
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,320
mountains of psychological
torment over not being enough,

910
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,480
yeah, I don't know what they're
going to do with Athena, who who

911
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,360
has never been allowed to break
down, but I think the fandom

912
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,720
thinks that she's going to go to
hen.

913
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,360
I mean, I would hope so.
That's her.

914
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Bestie.
I hope so.

915
00:47:59,200 --> 00:47:59,920
That's her bestie.
We.

916
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:04,000
Don't get to see them enough.
I would like for her to retire.

917
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,400
I think she's done.
I don't think she will, though,

918
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,120
because I don't think they're
going to lose their number one

919
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,880
on the call sheet as well.
But I wouldn't I wouldn't say I

920
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,960
wouldn't be mad at Angela
Bassett for being like, oh, you

921
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,200
took him away from me.
Goodbye.

922
00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:18,760
Right.
Like I think she's likely to be

923
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,880
the next to go.
Yeah, if.

924
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,000
That's that would make 100%
yeah.

925
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,680
If if Peter's gone, then so is
Angela.

926
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,760
Like I don't know what her
character.

927
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,640
Does now, like she continues to
be their their cop with no rules

928
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,600
who never gets in trouble after
firing her service weapon and

929
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,840
defying the FBI and the Army and
breaking God knows how many

930
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560
protocols and having all the
plot armor in the world?

931
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,920
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what her story is.

932
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,800
Not to say that she has to be
tied to her husband, right?

933
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,400
But like, does she just now live
alone in her brand new house?

934
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,320
In this unfinished house.
And and as a widow, yeah, 'cause

935
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,440
they made real.
Real clear a few episodes ago

936
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,040
that there was no there were no
rooms in that house for her

937
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,640
children, which was insane.
It was an.

938
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,640
Insane thing to say.
May's still in town, but but

939
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,160
Harry's not Harry's not like.
What?

940
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,720
What?
What's she gonna do?

941
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,480
Yeah, I mean, I'm.
She's fine.

942
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,040
I feel like she is maybe aging
out of being a street cop.

943
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,400
It's not that.
Her like she doesn't get to have

944
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,200
a story as Athena.
Not that Athena doesn't get to

945
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,480
have stories, but without Bobby
she's kind of lost her

946
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,160
connection to the 118.
Exactly.

947
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,240
Yeah, and especially Cuz.
They've taken her away from Hen

948
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,240
so much.
Yeah, like the.

949
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:46,880
Show season 1 I can't I forget
how much of season 1 is the like

950
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,480
Athena and and Abby show that
was who you were following and

951
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,680
then by the time season 1 ended
you were so much more bonded to

952
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,240
Bobby and Hen and Jim and buck.
You were bonded to the 118 more

953
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,400
than you were to these two women
who started the show and.

954
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,880
So they very easily they.
Wrote off they wrote off Abby

955
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,320
and they brought Athena into the
fold.

956
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,680
And so really the only way to
kind of keep her going and still

957
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,280
have her connected is to take
somebody else away from the 118

958
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,440
and bring her like bring them
together.

959
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,760
I started a a bad idea bingo
like list.

960
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,440
So so far I have Athena actually
retiring from being like a

961
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,800
striker, the beat cop or a field
surgeon and going to dispatch.

962
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,120
To bring her in to.
Maddie, To have a Maddie Athena

963
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,920
relationship, that would be a
mirror to Bobby and Buck, right?

964
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting, but I don't think

965
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,080
Athena.
Would enjoy it and then she

966
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,960
would just go home and be sad
and then there's some people,

967
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,600
especially after seeing 1415 are
like, no, I'm hearing like I you

968
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,680
know what if they took Buck
actually away from being a

969
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,920
firefighter and made him
Athena's rookie, I don't think

970
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,720
he wants to be a.
Cop and I cannot.

971
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:14,280
See that working?
That feels funny to me.

972
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,560
I can't imagine Evan Buckley
really wanting a gun.

973
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,920
Like I just I just.
Don't see it.

974
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,120
He didn't even want to be a.
Seal he No, he was talking.

975
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,960
About they needed to shut it
down and I can't shut it down.

976
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,680
And like letting this whole
thing, she trains a rookie every

977
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,280
time she's like there, she's
like, you have to be able to

978
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,880
focus on the job.
And he can do that as a

979
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,080
firefighter, but he can't as a
cop.

980
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,800
And I'm like, well, you know,
make make Eddie the rookie.

981
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,960
And I'm like, no, Eddie wouldn't
want a gun.

982
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,760
Eddie's had guns.
He's no, no.

983
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000
No, no.
No, that's if you want to make

984
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,360
Eddie a rookie cop.
Get ready for PTSD arc Part 2 if

985
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,960
you want a.
Rookie cop you bring in a new

986
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,160
character but like that's.
The thing is that we don't

987
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,200
actually need new characters in
the show.

988
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,000
Bring back that doesn't one
that.

989
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,920
Doesn't matter to the show now,
that's the problem is you broke

990
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,080
the show open.
Yeah, and that's the thing that

991
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,520
you broke the.
Show open and it's like, let me

992
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,040
tell you how much better I've
and again, I haven't seen the

993
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,360
episodes, but I have faith in my
mutuals and my friends who have

994
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,960
seen the episode.
Would 815 have been better had

995
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,600
it been Lucy in the helicopter
and not Tommy personally?

996
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Obviously, yes.
Yes.

997
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Like.
Literally any excuse to get

998
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,040
Tommy off my screen.
Literally any excuse.

999
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,560
Any excuse but.
Lucy Donato has.

1000
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,440
In fact, served with this entire
crew.

1001
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,200
She knows Bobby.
She was there for the Mayday

1002
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,600
episode.
Like Lucy has a purpose.

1003
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,840
Yeah, Tommy at this point is
just Bucks X, which he makes

1004
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,280
explicitly clear in the episode,
I think, Tim.

1005
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,680
Likes Tommy, he would.
Again, this is.

1006
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,240
A Ryan Murphy show.
You have to understand that as a

1007
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:57,960
Ryan Murphy show, sometimes they
do things that piss off the

1008
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,840
audience just for fun and for
profit.

1009
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,280
Just for fun and for profit,
yeah.

1010
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:07,040
And just wild.
That's the that's the blood of a

1011
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,280
Ryan Murphy show.
Is that once this, this is my

1012
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,320
thesis of Orion Murphy show is
that once he knows that there's

1013
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,360
something that pisses off a a
section of the audience,

1014
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,200
especially if it comes to a
ship, that's the thing that

1015
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,880
they're going to keep.
Of course it is.

1016
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,800
Oh, he heard you complaining
about a hairstyle.

1017
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,120
Oh, it's getting get worse.
It's getting worse.

1018
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Oh, you don't like this
character?

1019
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,000
He's sticking around.
All right, put on your Tim.

1020
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Maineer showrunner hat.
Yeah, you have just killed off

1021
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,200
your beloved protagonist, right?
So I Where's your show?

1022
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Going to go from here.
OK.

1023
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,240
So I think they bring in.
A new captain.

1024
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,840
I think it's AI think it's a
stunt cast.

1025
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,960
I think it'll be a woman.
I I don't know why they don't

1026
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,120
promote from within, but I think
it's the stunt cast part for

1027
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,600
like ratings for shock value for
whatever.

1028
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,480
Maybe they're from, maybe
they're from a small town, bring

1029
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,120
in a different vibe.
I don't know.

1030
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,760
So that they clash a little bit,
who knows?

1031
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,920
And then I think Season 9 is he
hasn't said Eddie's back, but I

1032
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,080
think Eddie is back for Season
9.

1033
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Do think it makes sense to Tim's
brain to break up the 1:18.

1034
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,680
And I think some of it might
come in the story, if I'm

1035
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,360
thinking about it from, From
like the Fire Chief, like this

1036
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,400
Firehouse has seen too much.
They should not be serving

1037
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,760
together for however long.
Let's let's put them into, let's

1038
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,240
break them up.
Let's let's separate these

1039
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,000
broken people out into different
houses and and bring in some new

1040
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,760
blood to make sure that these
these addled firefighters are

1041
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,760
not all working in in under one
roof.

1042
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,320
So I don't know how they
probably won't let Hen and Chim

1043
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,400
work together and they probably
won't let Buck and Eddie work

1044
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,560
together.
No.

1045
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:11,120
So maybe I think they send Buck
away from the 1:18 and I think

1046
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,680
they send Hen away from the
1:18.

1047
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Maybe Shim.
No, they would send it like.

1048
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:22,520
If this you know, I'm, I'm, I'm
gonna give Emily, I'm trying to

1049
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,240
decide if they'd have two.
Women at the 118 is the thing

1050
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:27,800
like if if the new captain is a
woman, do they keep hen and have

1051
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,960
two women?
So I think.

1052
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,360
They will send Buck away in my
heart.

1053
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
He'll go to the Academy, but I
think he'd much rather be out

1054
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,760
there fighting fires.
Of course, because at the

1055
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Academy he would be alone.
They would keep Robbie.

1056
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,960
I can see them bringing back
Lucy.

1057
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,280
I don't know anything about her.
Filming schedule so maybe?

1058
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,000
No idea but.
From a character perspective,

1059
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,560
sure.
If she doesn't want to fight do

1060
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,040
helicopter stuff anymore, they
could bring her back.

1061
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,440
They could also bring Tommy
back.

1062
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,920
I will kill you.
I.

1063
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,360
Also will kill me but.
You know, I'm saying Tim would

1064
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,080
think that that was funny.
Sure.

1065
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:10,600
And then do either.
Let's let's do Robbie and Tommy

1066
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,000
under.
Just just wait for it under the

1067
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:19,080
new cast captain.
And then on the paramedic side,

1068
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,800
it's Chimney and Eddie.
Yeah.

1069
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,560
And then?
They send hen.

1070
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,800
Off to be the captain of a new
Firehouse, like of a new team,

1071
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,640
we have to assume that even.
Though it's never been stated

1072
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,160
that both Chimney and Hen are
lieutenants.

1073
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,440
Yeah, that seems reasonable.
And given how long they've been

1074
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,120
there.
Yes, and that hen just needs to

1075
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,320
pass.
Her cap and see exam because

1076
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,880
she's already been acting
captain and it's a whole thing.

1077
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,120
And then she'll just be fine.
And we're also assuming for the

1078
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,600
pretense that Eddie actually has
his paramedics license.

1079
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Yes, we have to assume not to.
We're just pretending.

1080
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,960
We're just for the.
Vibes so he gets it over the

1081
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,480
break.
It's fine.

1082
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,840
He he got it in Texas.
It's cool.

1083
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,320
It's you know, so for this, as
much as I hate it because the

1084
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,720
the the part that I need Tim to
understand is that like angst

1085
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,280
only works for the Wii Wu show
if it's angst for the happy

1086
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,080
ending, like the separation only
works if you get them back

1087
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,160
together.
So you get.

1088
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,960
Buck at the.
Academy with his like fears of

1089
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,240
isolation and abandonment and if
that man isn't hallucinating

1090
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,320
Bobby Nash the entire time like
you've missed something cool.

1091
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,720
You have this entire team of men
under a a new female captain who

1092
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,520
nobody knows the worst of
fucking Tommy is going to come

1093
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,080
out.
The worst of Tommy is going to

1094
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,000
come out and because then you're
telling that to Chimney, to

1095
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Eddie and to Ravi, 3 people who
will not fucking put up with

1096
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,440
that shit, you're going to get
all of the And this is the

1097
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,200
delicious juice that I want
Despite that person being on my

1098
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,720
screen again is I want the
interactions between Tommy and

1099
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,720
Eddie Sure, particularly.
When it comes to.

1100
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:05,040
Bach like Ravi, Tommy's like,
well, how am I for a partner?

1101
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,520
It's like, well, you haven't
chased me with a chainsaw yet.

1102
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,880
It's like, who chased you with a
chainsaw?

1103
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,240
And then they start talking
about Buck and I just, I need

1104
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,680
the Tommy Eddie interactions
around that because jealous

1105
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,440
territorial Eddie is my favorite
Eddie.

1106
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,080
I just don't want to deal with
the.

1107
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,200
Fandom having Tommy around, it's
true.

1108
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,680
That will be disgusting.
Yeah, I just don't want it.

1109
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,200
Yeah.
That will be not fun.

1110
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,240
And then and I also don't want
him around and.

1111
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,840
Never acknowledging Tommy one
point.

1112
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,640
O yes.
And that's that's the thing.

1113
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,560
Is that you're going to have to
have a come to Jesus moment

1114
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,560
between Tommy and they won't Tim
my.

1115
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,000
Near refuses.
He refuses.

1116
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,400
He's.
He's changed.

1117
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Wrong, wrong, just wrong.
But if Tim does want to set the

1118
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,960
fandom on fire, do Tommy versus
Eddie.

1119
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,760
Sure.
And then he can.

1120
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,600
Also die in a fire and let it
ride.

1121
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,240
And then you've got hen just
dealing with new new captain

1122
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,920
stuff.
I'm a new captain and feeling

1123
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,600
alone and isolated and etcetera,
etcetera.

1124
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:58,960
And she can also feel like she
was passed over.

1125
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,800
Right, she was passed over.
By her own house, with her own

1126
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,360
mentor.
Like I'm not good enough for

1127
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,720
you.
And then they can all have.

1128
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
Well, actually, she can't.
Pass a psych eval.

1129
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,920
Oh God, yeah.
It's not that I don't want you

1130
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,600
as a captain, it's I don't want
you as captain.

1131
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,880
The 118 You've been here too
long and you're all emotionally.

1132
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,200
Distraught.
Yeah, as you fucking should be.

1133
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,960
And because I do think.
That Tim says like, oh, we're

1134
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,440
gonna spend 3 episodes on grief.
They're gonna come back for

1135
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,320
season 9 and we're not gonna
talk about it.

1136
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,040
It's gonna be like, Oh yeah,
that's a picture of our old

1137
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,400
captain and we're all fine and
we're fine.

1138
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,360
And there's gonna be like, every
couple episodes.

1139
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,560
There's gonna be a mention of
like, Oh yeah, Bobby Nash used

1140
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:45,600
to make the best lasagna.
Oh yeah, that Bobby Nash used to

1141
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,520
let us leave the hoe, the hoop,
the the loop out on the hose.

1142
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,120
So it was an easier, quicker
carry.

1143
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,320
Yeah.
And then you're.

1144
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,600
Going to start filling the team
with people who don't know

1145
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Bobby, and then that's what's
going to kind of trigger

1146
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,360
everybody.
Well, you would think, but it's

1147
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,000
not.
It's not gone like it just.

1148
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
The fact that there's behind the
scenes footage right now of

1149
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Chimney yelling at Gerard on a
scene, like they're at they're

1150
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,840
at a scene, they've been called
to a scene and it's like not

1151
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,840
that far apart from what has
just happened.

1152
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,080
Like how far a time jump do you
need to to do before you go back

1153
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,120
to work?
Like, what is the dumbest

1154
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,960
decision?
This is the dumbest decision.

1155
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,640
It's bad.
And I cannot imagine a world in

1156
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,880
which they don't regret it.
I think they're going to regret.

1157
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,920
It I think they'll, you know,
they'll do a big Season 9

1158
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,320
disaster.
I think they're going to.

1159
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,320
I think they're seriously going
to.

1160
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,600
I think they will consider
tackling the LA wildfires as a

1161
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,760
Season 9 arc because I think
they're going to find it hard to

1162
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,760
ignore OK and I don't.
Know if that.

1163
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Is appropriate or not?
Considering how damaging it was,

1164
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,040
yeah, I don't know again.
But I think if I had.

1165
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,520
More faith in the team.
But I don't so right, If I had

1166
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,280
more faith in the team, I'd be.
Like, you know, we've seen them

1167
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:08,520
use the the water tanker planes.
You know, the scale of it, I

1168
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,480
think would be hard to do on
their show.

1169
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,080
Yeah, but yeah.
Or maybe.

1170
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,400
It's something that they.
Like, oh, we're back for Season

1171
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,800
9 and the team is so tired from
having done that, like wire

1172
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,480
fire, like, I don't know.
But I think they will have to

1173
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,360
discuss it.
Otherwise you're like, are we

1174
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:24,520
just pretending it didn't
happen?

1175
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,600
But yeah, I think I think it
would be a mistake not to

1176
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,840
mention Bobby throughout the
season.

1177
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,960
I think they will have to.
I am worried about them and the

1178
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,640
the direction of of buddy for
Season 9.

1179
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,920
I, I don't again, I don't trust
Tim and what he does or does not

1180
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:48,360
want to do.
I have lived through this so I'm

1181
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,320
I'm kind of like, oh, you're not
going to do it like, oh, you're

1182
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,880
not going to do it fine.
Like whatever.

1183
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,200
I will live in my own brain.
It's it's more of the like

1184
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,960
ongoing big year of 2025 and
we're still backing away.

1185
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,320
Like we're still not full
throated bringing 2 male

1186
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,760
characters together on ATV show
even though the signs are there

1187
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,520
and the signs have been there
all.

1188
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,160
Season like like wow, like big
wow.

1189
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,600
And that's I think one of the
things that's kind of grinding

1190
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,560
my gears is that now we know
because Tim fucking said it at

1191
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,560
house shows that, you know,
they're going to kind of put a

1192
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,840
pause on anything like personal
stories to focus on this like 2

1193
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,000
parter.
And it's like, well, yeah, OK.

1194
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,680
It's hard to do anything when
your captain, when your captain

1195
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,920
dad is dying.
But like, they have been working

1196
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,360
all fucking season to set up
buddy, whether or not they want

1197
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,400
to acknowledge it with their
like, you know, chests out, out.

1198
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,800
They have been setting this.
Shit up all fucking season.

1199
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,280
And.
I am just, again, I'm, I have so

1200
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,080
many questions.
If they're going to decide after

1201
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,480
all of this to just be like
shruggy emojis, whatever.

1202
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,920
I know, I know.
Like here's Buck's next

1203
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,840
boyfriend or girlfriend.
Like OK yay thanks.

1204
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:20,080
I will only accept it.
If it's like 1, I'll accept it

1205
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,480
under 2 conditions.
One, if it's Ryan Guzman in a

1206
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,600
bad wig because that I think
would be hilarious.

1207
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,920
Or two, if it's one of those
like, you know, Buck here, go

1208
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,560
with me.
Just just just put your hat on

1209
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,760
for a minute.
I look terrible in hats.

1210
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,080
Like Tommy?
Asks Buck out.

1211
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,960
Like look, I know that we've
been up and down, but like one

1212
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,720
more shot, third times a charm.
Let's just go out.

1213
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,720
We can, you know, we'll invite
people.

1214
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,640
It'll be a whole thing.
And because Buck and are

1215
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,480
together at all times, you know,
Tommy looks over at Eddie and

1216
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,280
he's like, you should come with
us, Bring a date.

1217
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,160
It'll be really fun.
And Eddie looks Bucking is like

1218
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,080
a, a, a blue screen because at
this point, there's been like

1219
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,560
some awkward tension between
them.

1220
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,920
And they're like, it's like, OK,
fine, sure.

1221
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,120
And so Eddie finds himself
somebody who looks strikingly

1222
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,240
like Oliver Stark of any gender,
any gender at all.

1223
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,680
And they just spend the entire
date sniping at each other's

1224
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,040
dates.
And at the end of it, Tommy,

1225
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,480
like, ends up like dropping Buck
off, like Buck and Eddie back

1226
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,200
off at home and like pulls Buck
like into the door.

1227
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Be like, you know that you're
going to break my heart.

1228
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,640
You know this.
I saw it.

1229
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,440
I saw it tonight.
Don't do it.

1230
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,840
Don't do it to him too.
And just walks away out of our

1231
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,640
lives.
I mean, you know, it's not going

1232
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,480
to happen.
On the show?

1233
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,080
Absolutely not.
That's why it's.

1234
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,120
Happening on this podcast.
That's why it's happening on

1235
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,200
this.
Podcast Emily got it.

1236
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,960
But like I.
Where do they go from here?

1237
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:55,080
I mean, I, I at this point don't
really care about the quality of

1238
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,680
the content.
I need a different back.

1239
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,840
Captain Dad.
It's not a good show anymore.

1240
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,840
Hasn't been.
Good for a while.

1241
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,840
Season 5 was good all things
considered.

1242
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:10,440
After that it just wasn't 11
great like I enjoyed season 6.

1243
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,240
I did not really enjoy season 7
having just rewatched season.

1244
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:15,600
Seven.
I was like, this sucks.

1245
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,160
Yeah, Season 8's been fun.
I wouldn't say it's good, but

1246
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,880
it's been fun.
No Season 7 I was like EW.

1247
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,080
Yeah, season 7's not great.
But season 8 is been super fun.

1248
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,840
I it hasn't been good.
It hasn't been cohesive plot

1249
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,920
wise, but it's been fun.
Like they with this, they have

1250
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,640
killed the vibe and I don't even
care about the quality anymore.

1251
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,600
Bring back my captain Dad.
Bring him back because otherwise

1252
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,960
the show will become unwatchable
and that's going to be hard.

1253
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,800
Yeah, I don't think they're
going to bring him back.

1254
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,040
Though, and it's going to
become.

1255
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,800
Unwatchable.
And that's going to be really

1256
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,000
hard.
We got to find.

1257
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,280
A new show.
I got to finish this one.

1258
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,400
No, I don't.
I do.

1259
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,520
What if something cute with
Eddie happens and I'll see it on

1260
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,400
Tumblr?
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta hear

1261
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,560
his voice.
I gotta hear his voice.

1262
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,920
Then I'll watch the Supercuts
like at this.

1263
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,600
Point I want to watch for my
found family.

1264
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,160
I do.
I love Hen and Karen and, you

1265
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,920
know, Denny and Mara.
I want to see more of Mara and

1266
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:28,200
her best friend Jian.
I want to meet what is

1267
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,520
inevitably Daniel Robert Buckley
Hahn.

1268
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Everyone's going to.
Be so mad when that's not.

1269
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,200
His name?
Oh yeah, but it's one of.

1270
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,280
Those things like, no, that's
just his name.

1271
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,120
It's fine.
His name could be his name could

1272
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,040
be, you know, Octopus.
And we're all be like, Oh, yes,

1273
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,040
Daniel Robert, of course, the
way Sheriff Stilinski's name is.

1274
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,200
John the way, Sheriff
Stilinski's name.

1275
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,920
Is John, The medallion says.
That's dumb.

1276
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,440
Noah.
What kind of a name is Noah?

1277
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,160
No, it's not.
No, his name is John.

1278
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,440
It's fine.
I want to see, luckily, Diaz

1279
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Hahn family dinners.
I want the four of them.

1280
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,440
I want to see Jim and Eddie
actually get a chance to do

1281
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,720
medical work together.
I want to watch more of Buck and

1282
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,440
Ravi.
I want wine nights with Hen and

1283
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:23,400
Karen and Eddie and Athena.
I I want these things I do and

1284
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,240
without Bobby, I can't because
it's.

1285
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,080
Just going to be.
This enormous blanket of grief

1286
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,640
over everything thing.
And that's not why I watched the

1287
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,840
show.
Yeah, I if I wanted something

1288
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,880
sad and full of grief, I'd read
the damn news.

1289
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,320
Yeah, right.
Exactly.

1290
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,520
I'd I'd turn on the.
Radio at work, yeah, that's why

1291
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,840
that's.
Why I got an hour a week for the

1292
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,600
stupid show, this stupid TV.
Show and like you wanting to be

1293
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,440
the next whatever.
No be what you are.

1294
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,400
Yeah, this, this is like the
best damn found family show

1295
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,880
since like Sense 8, since Dairy
Girl.

1296
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:05,560
This is a found family show.
It is so incredibly queer to its

1297
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,840
core.
It is so special.

1298
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,400
It is so special.
That's why we can't have white

1299
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,120
guys leading.
Shows like if they.

1300
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,040
If they actually end up going
through with it, if they, if

1301
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,160
they actually kill Bobby Nash
for real, for real dead, he's

1302
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:23,439
dead.
They're going to kill.

1303
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,040
They're going to kill this.
Show they're going to kill it,

1304
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,720
they're going to kill it dead.
Have the.

1305
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,040
Day you deserve I.
Guess yes.

1306
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,200
Take what you want and pay for
it.

1307
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:34,840
Take what you want and pay for
it.

1308
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,080
But buddy just hit 40,000 works
on AO3 so we're fine.

1309
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:39,200
We're fine.
It's fine.

1310
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,600
It's gonna.
Take a while to read all of

1311
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:41,960
those.
It will.

1312
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,399
I'm trying.
My best, although I am on

1313
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:48,680
chapter 9:50.
It's like 100 and something odd.

1314
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,640
It's a castle AU, it's
incredible.

1315
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,399
Have you ever watched Castle?
Like an episode or two.

1316
01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:58,080
No this AU.
Is great.

1317
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,960
Yeah, I watched.
I watched a lot of Castle.

1318
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,439
I have read.
I have read this.

1319
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,160
Before, and I know that because
every chapter I get at you've

1320
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,319
already left kudos here.
Yes, yes.

1321
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,720
I'll do it again.
Castle is cute.

1322
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,399
This whole thing is.
Cute has similar issues.

1323
01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:17,000
But yeah, it's yeah, of course.
But yeah, I don't know.

1324
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,080
Do you have any final thoughts
on I, I?

1325
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,319
My final thought is I think
people should expect the worst.

1326
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,760
Yeah, I, I.
Appreciate.

1327
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,200
Everyone's head cannoning away
the pain and that it, that is

1328
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,240
fine.
And but I think there comes a

1329
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,120
time when, when the stages of
grief need to proceed.

1330
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,960
And, and, and yeah, I don't
begrudge anyone stop to, to stop

1331
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,560
watching the show, right.
And I I think it's an

1332
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,640
appropriate signal to the
network to be like, I don't

1333
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,960
appreciate this shit because you
make a bad decision and you pay

1334
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,600
the consequence, right.
Like the only thing you can do

1335
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,760
really to tell, to tell someone
at at that level that you're

1336
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,560
unhappy is to take the ratings
away because it is still a

1337
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,080
network show.
It's not a streaming show.

1338
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,000
Yeah.
So like, if you don't want to

1339
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,400
watch, don't watch, right?
Like, that's all you can really

1340
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,840
do is to take the the ratings
away.

1341
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:19,600
And it sucks, right?
Like it's been such a fun show

1342
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,600
And and it's I think what's
annoying to me is that it's

1343
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,880
like, why do you get to have the
power?

1344
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:35,280
Like how did you to my near get
into the position where you hold

1345
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,240
the reins and you seem to have
so little regard for the craft.

1346
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,400
And it's, you know, it's a
question that we've had for so

1347
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,280
many people in television and
movies.

1348
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,040
Like, do you even like this?
Do you enjoy this?

1349
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,280
Do you like the show?
Do you like these characters?

1350
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,400
And you see it every time a show
takes a nosedive.

1351
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,280
And it's like there are
thousands of people who would

1352
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:03,000
kill to have this job and to be
able to write stories for a

1353
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,360
living and who love these
characters.

1354
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,400
And do you not?
Do you not like this?

1355
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,080
Do you not enjoy this?
Is this just a job for you?

1356
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Do you not enjoy a story?
And I find that incredibly

1357
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,400
frustrating.
And it's just it's.

1358
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:23,680
So clear when it happens and
it's bad, it's so clear that

1359
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,400
they just throw it away and it's
so frustrating.

1360
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,600
Like we have to raise the.
Stakes, but why?

1361
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,240
But why?
Like did you get a network?

1362
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,600
Note what did you get?
Does someone telling you that?

1363
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,720
Or do you just like to smash
dolls together?

1364
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,840
Do you not know another way?
And it's like when every time

1365
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,160
personal care, like personal
characters, a cheating storyline

1366
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,720
comes up.
Like, is that the only way you

1367
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,400
know how to create drama in a
relationship is to make them

1368
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,840
cheat?
Is that all you know how to do?

1369
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,360
That's it.
That's all you've got.

1370
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,920
OK, There are better writers out
there.

1371
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,560
I'm sure you can find them.
There are better writers and.

1372
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,880
It's like, like, how did you get
this job because.

1373
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,960
I know a dozen people in LA
right now who could do a better

1374
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,480
job.
Absolutely 100%.

1375
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:07,240
I've got them in my.
Phone.

1376
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,520
Let's go.
I'm gonna say I literally have

1377
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,040
them in my phone.
Not really in my phone.

1378
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:10,600
Let's go.
Can I?

1379
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,520
Give them to you.
It it just it.

1380
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,400
Boggles my mind, and I know that
my brain has been rotted by

1381
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,360
fandom.
I know.

1382
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,760
I understand that, sure.
And I understand that that

1383
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,120
television and network
television specifically has a

1384
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,840
slower method of storytelling
and that's kind of the point.

1385
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,800
But if I've learned anything
from fan work is that the best

1386
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,880
stories are planned from the
beginning.

1387
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,280
You have to know where you're
going in order to go there and.

1388
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,720
You.
You know, I certainly am the

1389
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,040
what my mother calls a gardener
type of writer.

1390
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,520
I know where I'm going, but
there's just a lot more pit

1391
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,200
stops on the way than I had
planned.

1392
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,800
Sure, but.
I know where I'm.

1393
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,680
Going the whole time and yeah,
with things like this it just

1394
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,080
feels like they don't know where
they're going.

1395
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,160
No, none there have there has
been.

1396
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,680
OK so I'm going to rewind and
then we're going to get back to

1397
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,160
this.
For those of you who don't know,

1398
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,200
I'm a gift maker.
It's one of my fun favorite

1399
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,960
hobbies that didn't that didn't
used to make me sad and it now

1400
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,640
does.
And sometimes, you know, you run

1401
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,840
out of inspiration or ideas and
there's a thing called a GIF

1402
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:21,000
meme where someone is like, Hey,
how about, you know, you do one

1403
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,400
of these and two of those and
three of those and four of these

1404
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,840
and five of these.
And there's a 911 GIF meme going

1405
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,280
around and they talk about that.
You do, you know, 8 characters

1406
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,880
and two locations and 1 arc, One
story arc.

1407
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,080
And I have been struggling for a
while trying to figure out my

1408
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,720
one story arc.
And it hit me today like a sack

1409
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,440
of potatoes.
My favorite story arc that

1410
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:49,480
they've done in 911 is Bobby's
suicide arc from Season 7.

1411
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:56,360
Because watching Bobby go
through his like steps towards

1412
01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:01,000
suicide in season 7 is the most
realistic portrayal I've ever

1413
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,800
seen.
You know, he's he found his like

1414
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,520
little prayer book and he gives
it to Eddie and he's like, this

1415
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,440
is the thing that I have seen
from my own life.

1416
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,000
I think it's going to be good
for your own life.

1417
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,920
And it's a way for you to
Remember Me the way that he

1418
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,320
gives that bag of groceries to
Buck And it's like I've I've

1419
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,200
been teaching you this for a
long time now you're going to do

1420
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,200
it.
We're going to share this one

1421
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:27,920
last memory together and we're
going to move forward.

1422
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:29,880
It was a.
Whole.

1423
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,640
Arc that moved through and it I
loved it.

1424
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,240
Is it horrifying?
Yes, but it was a beautiful

1425
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,680
story done well.
Can't do that again.

1426
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,720
Apparently this is.
Not a beautiful story.

1427
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,040
Done well, Yeah, this.
Is not a beautiful story.

1428
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,320
Done well if it if at the end of
his suicide arc, like he does

1429
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,360
die but not he comes back and
he's fine because this is the

1430
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,960
wee woo show this.
Is the wee woo.

1431
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:08,480
Show like if season 7 had in
fact ended on Bobby kind of

1432
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:12,840
committing suicide via house
fire, I would.

1433
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,320
Have been.
Destroyed, but it would have

1434
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,720
made sense.
It would have made sense.

1435
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,800
Narratively, it would have made
sense.

1436
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,240
Emotionally, I would have hated
it.

1437
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,800
I would have jumped up and down
and stomped my little feet on

1438
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,600
the ground.
Right.

1439
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,760
Yeah.
And we would all.

1440
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,480
Be pissed and.
Sad, bad and heartbroken and you

1441
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:37,440
know, going through the stages
of grief and yelling like, hold

1442
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,680
them to the sky and it would
have made sense.

1443
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,600
Yep, he had.
It.

1444
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,000
It would be the natural
conclusion to a good story arc.

1445
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,600
This whole ass season they've.
Been telling us that Bobby Nash

1446
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,440
cannot die.
You can't kill the dad.

1447
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:56,760
Bobby is an undead vampire
motherfucker.

1448
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,640
It does.
Like, I just, there's been no

1449
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,480
goddamn story.
This came out of absolutely

1450
01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:08,040
nowhere.
And if this were real life, then

1451
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,080
OK, fine.
But it is not every.

1452
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,600
It's not real life.
Every single.

1453
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,400
Thing is intentional and if.
You're telling me that this was

1454
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,880
intentional?
You are.

1455
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:17,720
If it was real life, then Bobby
would have.

1456
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,800
Infected hen doing the
thoracostomy, correct?

1457
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,400
So whatever.
Whatever.

1458
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,720
Like but you know, OK, OK, OK
guys.

1459
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:37,000
So prayer circle buddy Cannon
2025 basically like at.

1460
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,920
This.
Point They're gonna if, if, If

1461
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,840
they kill Bobby for real, then
Athena's not far behind.

1462
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,320
If they lose Bobby and Athena,
they've lost their general

1463
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,120
audience, and they're gonna.
Need.

1464
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:55,160
Something to maintain the rest
of their audience, which is

1465
01:16:55,160 --> 01:17:00,040
Buddy Cannon, which feels like a
cruel and unusual gift.

1466
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:01,840
Yeah, definitely something
they're.

1467
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,960
Waffling on anyway, So what
killing.

1468
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,160
Buddy or no buddy cannon?
Buddy cannon.

1469
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,280
Buddy Cannon, which they
shouldn't be drives.

1470
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,520
Me crazy, I know.
It's so.

1471
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:12,440
Clear.
It's Crystal.

1472
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:13,360
Clear.
I don't understand.

1473
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,120
You guys wrote it.
You wrote it I'm.

1474
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,360
Just reading what you wrote,
man.

1475
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,880
I'm just reading what you wrote
man.

1476
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,440
I'm just putting.
My little eyeballs on what's on

1477
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:26,000
screen, that's not my fault.
We're the one.

1478
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,280
Who did this?
I'm just looking at the content

1479
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,680
that you created.
Yeah, you're the content

1480
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,240
creator.
Not me, not me, man.

1481
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,440
Not.
Me.

1482
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:37,400
I didn't do it.
OK, well, we should probably.

1483
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:39,480
Sally.
Forth.

1484
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:40,880
I'm sad.
Now.

1485
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,400
Yeah, I'm sorry, stupid.
Show.

1486
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:48,240
I know just I'm going back to my
AUS, I'm going back to my stupid

1487
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,760
gift sets and my friends, and
we're just hoping that this show

1488
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:56,080
hasn't set itself on fire.
Like, oh, I think it's a bit

1489
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,520
late for that.
I think it did, yeah, but it set

1490
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,320
itself on.
Fire in a fun way with Brad

1491
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,360
Torrance.
This is not a fun fire.

1492
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,480
It is not a fun fire.
It is.

1493
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:08,760
Not.
Prayer circles all around I.

1494
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,320
Guess yeah.
Yep.

1495
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,560
RIP RIP RIP.
Bobby and Ash.

1496
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,160
You were loved, you're still
loved.

1497
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,920
You are still loved, Dad.
Dad and Dad and Dad captain.

1498
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,080
Dad, Captain.
Dad.

1499
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,520
OK, well.
Thanks for listening to this

1500
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,320
bummer of an episode for real.
OK, I.

1501
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,080
Don't have an exit strategy.
I don't have an exit strategy

1502
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:38,440
for this guys.
Just know that we are here for

1503
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:42,960
whatever 1617 and 18 bring us.
We're still right here.

1504
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:46,160
I don't know, man.
I don't know.

1505
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,920
I don't know.
Whatever stage of grief you're

1506
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,440
in right now is real.
I don't, I don't know.

1507
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,200
I think A2 week hiatus is cruel.
I don't know.

1508
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,520
I think it's good for people.
Simmer down.

1509
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,520
So let's all take a breath.
Hey, I went.

1510
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,000
Outside after this episode I was
not feeling better.

1511
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:05,800
I had to go to bed after that
episode.

1512
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,440
What are you talking about?
It's bedtime right after I went

1513
01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:10,320
hiking my legs.
Hurt.

1514
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,160
Yeah, I.
Episode aired, I went to bed.

1515
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,320
So that's a good.
It's not a good system.

1516
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,360
Actually, no, it sounds
terrible.

1517
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,320
Frankly, Yeah.
Well, that's what a West.

1518
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,000
Coast time zone gets you.
Yeah.

1519
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,320
All right.
Well, Speaking of going to bed,

1520
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,880
dear reader, you should probably
also go to bed.

1521
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,800
Or at least consider it.
Not me.

1522
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:28,840
Now it's the middle of the.
Day.

1523
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,840
Yeah, well, for me it's my.
Bedtime.

1524
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,960
So yeah, that means nothing.
You'll.

1525
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,440
Be right back on text.
I hate, reader.

1526
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:38,880
I hate.
Her yay I have.

1527
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:44,560
The whole time.
All right, we'll catch you on

1528
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:50,600
the next mini episode of length.
Oh, this episode's almost 90

1529
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,800
minutes.
How long it took Bobby Nash to

1530
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:52,120
die.