Bonus Episode: 9-1-1 Mini Series #7

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On the rocks.

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There's no plan.
There's never a plan.

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Hello.
Welcome back to Phantom on the

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rocks.
I'm Emily.

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And I'm Allison.
And this is another 911 bonus

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episode.
It's been a hot minute.

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It's been a hot minute, and it's
been a hot minute because we've

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been on hiatus and because
Season 8, B decided to just

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punch each and every one of us
in various body parts and, like,

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leave us on the ground crying.
So it's been kind of a rough

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summer.
There were choices made by the

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creative team.
Choices.

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Were made.
Choices were made with

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questionable reasoning behind
it.

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Spoiler alert if you haven't
seen it.

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Whatever key paw is dead.
P pot is dead and P pot doesn't

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need to be dead.
The the longer I sit with it,

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really truly the longer I sit
with it.

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Like either, they were like
keeping their options open for

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as long as possible.
What?

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Do you mean or this was like the
funniest?

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They think this is the funniest
prank ever pulled.

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Well, say, say more 'cause you
know how I feel about it.

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Yes no, Emily's Emily's Dobby
forever and I unfortunately am

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also leaning into into Bobby is
dead forever and ever 'cause

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he's dead.
Of course he's dead.

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Even if he's not dead in my
heart, he's just in France with

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Erica Reyes and Vernon Boyd and
Alice Sargent.

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He's fine there's.
Not one iota of evidence that

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he's alive.
Absolutely not.

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There is no canonical evidence
to prove that he's alive.

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But with the there is.
There is if you choose to see

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it.
There's a reason that we're than

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Sparks, that we're the Buck and
Eddie of like our own lives.

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Because I'm over here going
like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But listen.
And Emily's like, absolutely

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not.
That's not how evidence works.

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You don't make it up.
No, you don't make it up, but if

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you can use the scientific
method and look at the evidence

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in front of you and then draw a
conclusion from that evidence.

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You don't make up the evidence.
You don't make up the evidence.

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The evidence is clear.
It's canonical.

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It's on the TV screen.
It's just that you and I come to

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different conclusions.
I'm saying you'll never agree on

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this, by the way, to your
listener.

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I'm saying that it there is a
universe in which if the

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contract negotiations have gone
differently in like if, if

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whatever happened didn't happen
or happened differently, there

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was a space carved out for
people to still be alive.

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Like for them to to not kill him
or them to, you know, put him in

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a coma or them to do whatever.
Yeah, 'cause he killed Ravi

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instead.
In theory, but apparently that

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was also a lie.
Again, you cannot trust anything

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an actor says during an
interview.

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True actors are liars.
That's their job.

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They're they're pathological
liars.

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So whatever is said in an
interview, it doesn't matter.

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Doesn't matter, but I'm saying
that I can see, based on the way

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the story beats occurred, that
there is a universe in which

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they were trying to keep the
door open as long as possible.

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What I will allow because it has
happened in the past throughout

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TV, movie history, TV.
History.

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TV history and film history is
Even if the writing was we

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killed him, he's dead.
Oh shit, we fucked up.

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Yeah, we brought him back
without there having been a

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shred of ground laying
previously.

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Right, that's what games taught
us.

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Exactly, you'll never convince
me that there's anything in the

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text to say like it might not
have been dead, but I will allow

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the show being like actually
retcon.

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He's fine.
I'll allow that.

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They could have retcon did
because they're idiots.

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Yeah, I will say in my own
defense and defense of a lobby

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everywhere that it would be
fairly easy to retcon.

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It's it's easy to wreck on
anything, you just do it.

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Yeah, you just do it.
Just.

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You just have him show up and
he's like, yes, actually, I'm

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fine.
And you carry on as if it didn't

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happen.
As if it just didn't happen.

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The same way you carry on as if
buck should not have a leg.

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Yeah, that is true.
This whole OK, so we'll we'll

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get there.
So the end of the day is that

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Bobby Nash is, unfortunately for
all of us, dead and deceased for

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reasons for reasons.
I don't know that we'll ever

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actually know them.
No.

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Feel a little nefarious?
Though that has been the

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weirdest part of this.
We were like, you know, thinking

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that maybe something would have
come out that maybe Peter would

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have, Peter Krasso would have
done like an exit interview that

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they would like talk about it.
Nothing.

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It has been radio freaking
silence from from the powers

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that be.
And you know, there's always a

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thought that like, oh they
didn't they were trying to cut

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costs right?
With his salary.

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Except the 1st 4 episodes of
this show are insanely

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expensive.
They're so expensive and they

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and they bumped up two more
people to Maine.

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Yeah.
So this.

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Is not.
These are not the actions of a

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show that's trying to cut costs.
No, it's not.

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And it's not like they've added
in product placement to get some

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extra cash.
No.

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Well, I mean, maybe the buddy
episode is probably coming up,

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so we'll wait and see.
If Trojan is sponsoring.

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I'm just saying the last three
big product placements they had

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were all buddy related.
I'm just saying.

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Buddy brought to you by Trojan
and Astroglide.

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By Chris Pratt but I just as
long.

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As it works.
Long as it works, it's just it.

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It's a.
It's a very odd confluence of

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events, made even stranger by
the writing.

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Yeah, for sure.
Like the?

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The more time we sit and think
on it, the more time we kind of

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get to process, the more time we
get to go back and see it again.

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The more time we get to really
dig in, the more questions we're

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just like, what?
What choices were made?

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Why were they made this way?
Especially when fuck Nugget

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McGee is out there.
Like we did it for the realism.

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If he had never fucking said
that.

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I mean to be fair, he didn't
fucking say that.

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Sure he said something.
He never actually said the word

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realism.
He was talking in that interview

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about, like, wanting to raise
the stakes.

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Yes, that is true.
And he did raise the stakes.

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That I, I guess is true.
I'm still not worried about any

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of them.
I'm I'm absolutely not worried

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about other people dying.
No, absolutely not.

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I'm still not worried about it
like so this is this is we are 4

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episodes into season 9 of 911.
And so you know, spoiler alert

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and and we are waiting for the
the edisode.

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In theory, I'm hoping it's an
edisode.

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Wouldn't that be embarrassing
for everyone when it's not?

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Oh my God, yes, it will like
surprise.

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It's about G young like oh God,
sorry, sorry guys, my bad.

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And that we can come back around
to that if I remember it, but

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maybe put a pin in that.
OK.

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But yes, so this is this is kind
of the the lens we're coming at

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it with.
So like, Hen and Athena go to

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space, right?
It's the like.

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It's a four part opener.
You did not need a four part

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opener.
You and I have talked about this

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offline, online, we're going to
talk about it.

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They did not need a four part
opener.

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No, I think what happened is
what did I say?

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It's too much idea and it shoved
into network constraints.

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Yeah, because you made a really
good point that if it was on

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like an HBO, it could have been
two or three long episodes.

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Yeah, they're stuck.
They're stuck trying to have a

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41 or 42 minute episode.
It's an hour of your, your day

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if you're watching it live.
But with commercials, you have

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41 or 42 minutes, right?
Yep.

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And you have to fit that.
You have to cut to fit that.

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You don't have any wiggle room
unless you've somehow negotiated

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like our special event, an hour
and 10 minutes.

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But that takes effort.
But if you are on cable, you can

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tell them, hey, today we're
doing a 55 minute episode.

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Tomorrow we're doing a 62 minute
episode and you write to fit the

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episode, which meant he could
have done 2/2 hour episodes.

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Yeah, absolutely.
And it would have made more

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sense.
It would have just made more

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sense.
Like I they they had it going

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for a minute cuz sees this
episode 1 you opened with like

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the weird dynamics.
You kind of set all the players

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up.
You set up Chimney interim

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captain after six months, still
feeling really unsure and

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unstable about everything,
Maddie trying her best to

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support her beloved husband
alongside raising, you know, a

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precious little kid and the
roundest baby on earth.

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A full beach ball.
I love him so much.

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And because it's Hollywood, you
know that there's two of them.

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You know that that baby is a
friend.

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You know that there's two of
those babies.

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I'm so excited that those babies
and I exist in the same mortal

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plane at the same time.
There are potentially triplets.

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I hope so.
I hope that the the round baby,

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the circle baby just exists in
the world, delighting everyone

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in their path.
That's so funny.

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So Eddie and Hen are partners
and they're partners on the job

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and it's very exciting.
And Jimmy's like, I shouldn't

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have worried about that, you
know, because they're doing

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great.
Buck is of course fucking

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unspooling about it.
He's 4 reasons.

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Yeah.
Why is he?

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Why is he spooling?
Why is he unspooling about it?

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He's got a great partner in
Ravi.

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He's been working with Hen for
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He should have no reason to feel
funny about this.

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None.
I wonder why he's feeling funny

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about this.
Because his BFF for life is

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chatting up with someone else.
Because his.

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BFF for Life is having a nice
time with somebody else and it

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makes him, it makes him a little
nervous.

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And then all of a sudden they
are doing like, I can't get mad

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at the whale swallows A kayaker.
I can't get mad at that because

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it happened.
It did happen, yeah.

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So like from the headlines,
like, OK, sure, I'll give you

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that.
That's fine.

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That's it's Freeway Shark.
It's Binato.

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Like, OK, all right, I'll bite.
And frankly, Mark Quinzuelos did

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a great job in those episodes as
like a techie Dick.

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I liked him.
He was great and the Teen Wolf

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twin.
Yep, whichever one it was, I.

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Think it was Max.
Was it great?

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Loved it I.
Don't know.

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I don't know which of the Teen
Wolf twins he played.

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No idea.
But I think it was Max Carver.

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But all of a sudden we.
Did.

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We get the we get the politics
of it.

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You know, like, like Chief
Simpson is like, yeah, well,

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he's going to give us a bunch of
money, which means we can spend

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it on on new equipment that we
want.

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And hence, like shrugging emoji.
OK, I guess.

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And Athena, who has just been
like sitting like a like

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somebody in her grief, obviously
is like, I'm feeling untethered.

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I'm feeling unsettled.
I feel like I'm too much of A

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burden for everybody.
And Hen Wilson, world's best

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friend, is like, no, you're my
burden.

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I love you.
So does Karen.

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We're going to invite you every
week until you say yes, don't

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worry about it.
We're still here for you on the

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other side.
So to thank her, Athena says

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Sure, I'll go to space with you
like a like an idiot.

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I hope you know that I would
never go to space for you.

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You know, that doesn't surprise
me.

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I'm a little sad, I'm a little
hurt.

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No, you shouldn't be.
I hope you know I would.

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I would, Maddie.
The situation from the ground.

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I appreciate that I need a
Maddie on the ground.

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But I am not going to space.
I need a Maddie on the ground

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for sure.
Yeah, the amount of vomit that

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would happen in the helmet, I
just.

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Oh gosh, me too, man, Me too.
So they spend like the like an

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episode and a half basically
before they're even going to

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space.
And so we're like, this can't

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possibly end well.
And sure enough, it doesn't.

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Money and politics over safety
yada yada.

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Elon Musk, yada yada.
Elon Musk, yada yada, you know,

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and so the the on the ground
portion is pretty much stalled

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for the moment until we can
figure out what's going on in

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space.
And it goes from silly best

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friend adventure in space to
medical expertise in zero

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gravity to I can't lose anybody
else.

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There's more for me in heaven
than there is for me on Earth.

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Like don't make like don't make
me choose between you.

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Yeah.
Which is like an amazing fun

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journey to go on.
Really wish you could have gone

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through it on Earth.
On Earth, yeah.

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I feel like space was not
necessary for Athena grieving.

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No, I don't think it was.
I really don't like, I think

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there was something really
beautiful about the like there

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is more, you know, like there's,
there's plenty for you waiting

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on earth.
And she's like, no, there's more

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for me in heaven because
Emmett's there and Bobby's there

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and, you know, like.
Fuck them kids.

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Fuck them kids.
Fuck them kids.

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I absolutely love, like, you
know, my kids are grown.

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Like Harry dropped out of high
school.

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He's a child.
Harry's 18 Athena like.

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He's not.
I mean, I guess.

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He's going to invest like.
But they need a parent.

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All of their parents are gone.
All 12 of their parents are

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gone.
Yes, they have.

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They have like a gaggle of
parents and they're all gone.

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Like Buck is not gonna step in
as another parent.

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He can't.
No, he he cannot.

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He's trying the best that he
can.

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He can.
He can unk, he can big bro.

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He cannot parent.
Cannot parent those particular

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children.
Here's hoping there is another

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particular child that he can
parent that we'll see here soon.

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Crossing every finger.
But so there's just so much

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happening in the space arc that
doesn't have any long term

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consequence, and like 911 is
known for their opening arcs

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that have no long term
consequences.

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For sure.
Well, OK, the tsunami had some

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long term consequence.
Yes.

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Like, emotionally.
Yes, and it did drive the

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character relationship like it.
It explained the ongoing

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character relationship between
Buck and Chris.

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Yeah, but that was like the last
time.

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What was Season 4's opening arc?
Was that the pandemic?

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There was some pandemic.
Yeah, so that was like Maddie

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being pregnant and that whole
thing and then Season 5.

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I think wasn't is season 4 also
had the dam bursting right?

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Yeah, but that was done after
like a minute.

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An episode Yeah, season 5 was
there was a the blackout.

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Oh yes, the blackout.
That was fun.

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The.
Ransomware blackout.

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Yeah, it's the black and.
The zoo animals.

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And the zoo animals, I didn't
hate that it didn't have a ton

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of long term consequences other
than like.

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Eddie.
Eddie passing out because Anna.

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And and that everyone writes
that Buck takes Chris to the

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zoo.
Yes, and clipboard Buck.

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Clipboard Buck.
But like, not a ton of long term

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consequences season 6.
Oh, season 6, Season 6 I'm

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trying to like walk it back.
I don't remember Season 6 there

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was a a blimp.
Yeah.

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What was the?
Blimp.

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Let's see.
OK, the cruise ship was season

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7, right?
Yes, so season Season 6 didn't

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seem to really have a big arc
'cause it was the Athena goes

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home thing so.
Season 6 open with a blimp.

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Yeah, season 6 opens with a
blimp which really only takes an

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episode and then Six 2 is when
the everything crashes at the

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happiness convention.
Oh, that was sad.

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That was sad, but that's Captain
Hen.

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Yeah.
With and then 63 is Athena and

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Bobby going down to down to
Chimney or down to not to

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Chimney down to Florida.
Sorry chimneys in for a wild

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ride.
Sorry, I'm there's more on the

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page, but yeah, that's when they
go down to Florida and catch a.

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Murderer.
A murderer.

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Yeah, like I think honestly, the
last one that had consequences,

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I say consequences.
It was Season 7 with the cruise

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ship because, for what it's
worth, it introduced Tommy.

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Sorry.
But.

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It was just a gut reaction.
Yeah, it happens.

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I'm he's not my guy, but I don't
have quite the vitriolic

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reaction that some folks do.
But it did like them actually

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being consequences.
Literally, it's just, it's, it's

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Norman.
It's it's.

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It's the return of like the two
best side characters for three

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episodes for fun.
And do you See me, Norman and

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the whole thing, you know, with
Hen is acting captain and trying

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to figure that out.
And then they introduce, they

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end up introducing or guys
reintroducing Tommy, which then

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kicks off the BI Bach arc.
So like that actually does set

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up a few Nuggets for later down
the season.

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Surprisingly, the plane incident
does nothing.

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People.
Remember B NATO more than they

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remember Athena landing a
jetliner well.

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Yeah, because the the marketing
was the Binado, so it's like

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it's stuck.
And also it's silly.

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And I mean, I remember the plane
because of, I'm going to call it

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iconic scene, even though we've
overused iconic of, of Bobby

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standing on the truck on the
highway waiting for, well,

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apparently waiting to be smashed
by a plane.

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But.
But like, you know, watching

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Athena land the plane.
In To Date To date, that is the

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most romantic scene of Die 11.
It honestly is.

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For me.
Yeah.

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Tell me in person.
Tell me in person.

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Tell me in person like you.
You.

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You mean to tell me that he
doesn't even survive the season?

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You mean to tell me?
I know, I know.

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Like what did Peter?
Krauser do to him like to Tim.

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I near like what did what
happened?

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I hope that Peter Krausa is
living the happiest,

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sunshiniest, softest life with
whoever he chooses to share it

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with.
I hope.

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I hope he is well.
Hope he is well.

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And maybe he tells someone what
happened and that trickles down

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into the fandom.
We just kind of know what

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happened.
I imagined he is under a very

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strict, not very.
Shiny NDA.

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A very shiny NDA, yes.
What I'm hoping, what I'm hoping

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is that perhaps he had a phone
call with somebody before he

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signed that NDA.
Yes, yes, yes.

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So there might be a rumor around
somewhere.

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Just a rumor trickling through
LA that somehow manages to make

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it to somebody who knows
someone.

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Who knows someone?
Who knows someone?

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You know how it works.
I hope he's doing well, I hope

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he's relaxing in the weather of
his choice.

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But yes, So season 8, that
opening arc had little to no

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consequence and truly this won't
either.

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I don't think it will.
I can't see it mattering down

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the line.
Like the most affect it's going

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to have is that Athena, by grace
of, you know, young Athena or

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Hen or you know, her emergency
training or whatever got her

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back out of outer space and onto
the ground.

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And she was never going to die.
No, no, like.

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What were the steaks?
What are the steaks like?

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To be fair, I don't want steaks
anymore.

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Don't either.
You, you ruined the steaks, man.

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I don't want it anymore.
Like I no, either make it silly,

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goofy or just be done because
like there were there were a

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couple of scenes that kind of
got me.

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But generally speaking, like no,
and there should be some long

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term consequences of this and
there's just small B.

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We're just going to we're going
to move on.

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We're going to forget it and the
the like.

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The consequence is going to be a
thing that gets over her grief,

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which is not how it works.
The long term consequences

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should be that we should be
discussing like private space

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travel as a country and we're
not going to do.

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That we're not going to do that.
I'm like, hey, this is actually

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like maybe a bad idea and space
debris is actually like, like

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that's the lasting consequence
of space debris interfering with

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our satellite system and that
kind of shit.

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But that, that's not what
they're going for.

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But I will say a long term
consequence of this opening arc

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for me is that I got to see so
much of my bestie, Karen Wilson.

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Oh yeah, Karen had a real arc
that had the actual that had

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literally nothing to do with her
children.

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Yes, yes.
Like it had a little bit of her

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having to be like having to do
with her being a wife, but only

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in a it's my wife in danger kind
of way.

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She was actually a scientist.
She was actually a scientist.

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I'd also like to state for the
record that for me, Athena was

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the main character in Outer
space.

403
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:44,000
Ken was the main character on
the ground, like May May was,

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you know, doing clipboard.
May, she was trying to distract

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herself with the things.
And then Harry was panicking

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about Athena, but in a way that
made it about him and not about

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his mom.
Yeah.

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Like from a character writing
perspective.

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And so like when we were on the
ground, I was like, Oh my God,

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head is stuck in the space
station.

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And then we go into space.
I'm like, Oh yeah, it's Athena.

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Yeah, yeah.
Like hen was actually mostly

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safe in the space, in outer
space it should be that it was

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doing making choices.
Yeah, Hen was doing OK up there.

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I just.
And Tricia.

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And of course.
And Queen, Queen Tricia.

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Tricia, who I would like to see
again.

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Correct, I need to see her
again.

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I think this is my problem with
procedurals is you get a really

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great like guest character and
like wait wait wait wait bring

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her back.
Yeah, I think back to me.

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I think Trisha goes in the in
the Norman.

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What is his wife's name?
Oh.

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My God, it's Kurt's mom.
It's Kurt's mom.

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No, it's Carol.
It's Carol, but I don't know

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what her what what her 911 name
is.

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Lola.
Lola Lola Yes, she's reached the

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Lola Norman driver's Ed lesbians
like level love of of one off

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character, Trisha.
Well they were like 3 off

430
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,480
characters, Norman and Lola.
Yeah, but they became three off

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characters, so I just love them.
Love this for them.

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Love this for us, for Tricia,
for Tricia and her new one.

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Alarmingly young boy toy.
You know what?

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Let it ride.
They went through a traumatic

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experience together.
She's got money.

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It's.
Cool.

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She does have money.
She has money and 1% of a

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company.
Yeah, that's cratering, but

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she'll be fine.
It's fine.

440
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So that that is, that is where
we are with 9119A.

441
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Yeah, it's gonna, yeah, I don't
know.

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It's too much opening.
Yeah, I agree, it's too much

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opening.
Because now we know there's

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going to be a hiatus in January,
so there's two more episodes and

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then there's a break.
Yeah.

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And then we come back in January
and we don't know for sure, but

447
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:11,600
smart money is on there being
actually a second hiatus.

448
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Yeah, there's usually a spring
break.

449
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Yeah, because the the Olympics
are back in like late February.

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So a two or three-week break for
the Olympics.

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00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,680
Hiatuses don't bother me like
this is just network TV.

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Hiatuses bother me only in the
fact that I generally don't

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watch TV that's live, so I'm not
trained for it.

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00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,200
Yeah.
But that's a me problem.

455
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:45,080
So OK, not OK, it's not media
literacy, but there's like an

456
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:52,200
impatience in fandom that is
that is wrapped up in a lot of

457
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,840
things that are going on with
spoilers and knowing what

458
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,280
episode is getting filmed and
knowing the titles of the

459
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,080
episodes and knowing what stills
are coming out and knowing

460
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:13,240
production codes and every
single thing you can possibly

461
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,600
know about the episode before it
happens.

462
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:22,200
And trying to deduce from 1
still the entire plot line of an

463
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,080
episode.
Like with the next Eddie

464
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,560
episode, like it's it's going to
be an episode.

465
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,000
Like what if it's not?
What if it's not?

466
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:37,280
What if you build up an entire
episode in your brain and that's

467
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,480
not what it's about, and you
have now built and created

468
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,200
something and are now devastated
by a thing that was never going

469
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,000
to happen because you can't just
let the story lay out.

470
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,920
And I don't know when this
happened, when it started.

471
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,320
I don't know if it's social
media or I mean, probably

472
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,720
everything is social media,
right?

473
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,680
But having to decipher and
deduce and then post and and

474
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:09,320
know and unlock the secrets of
something that hasn't happened

475
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,840
yet, only to be disappointed by
a thing that never was.

476
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,040
I don't know how severe it was
because I wasn't watching live

477
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,320
at the time, but I believe this
sort of thing happened with Glee

478
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,840
when we would get the songs.
Out did it absolutely did.

479
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,360
Like a song would come out and
like this is for Kurt and it's

480
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,760
for plain.
And this is what's going to

481
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,040
happen in the scene when they're
singing it.

482
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440
And then it's not.
And you're like, it was never

483
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,080
going to be that.
Way it's never going to be that

484
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,160
way.
I just, I think there's

485
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,360
something and maybe it's because
I wasn't on that side of the

486
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,200
Internet.
Maybe it's because Twitter was a

487
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,880
cesspool, but it wasn't that big
a cesspool like it.

488
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:50,640
The reactions weren't as intense
as they are now.

489
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,080
Yeah.
And I don't really know why I.

490
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,120
Don't know either.
I think there's a lot of it to

491
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,320
do.
You know, we all know, we've all

492
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,080
studied, we've all heard of the
way that like the algorithms

493
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,560
really kind of are fucking with
our brains.

494
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,440
Oh, for sure.
And there's so much in the like,

495
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,400
kind of middle school.
I was right.

496
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,920
You were wrong.
Yeah, kind of nonsense.

497
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:20,080
And like, it's so public now and
there's something, you know,

498
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:25,640
about gloating and being right.
Like, OK, so to, you know, to

499
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,720
call myself out here, I wrote
after Bobby died, ripped my

500
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,560
heart.
I wrote a Dia de Los Muertos.

501
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,840
You did.
I did back in like April and I

502
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,320
was quite proud of it because,
yeah, it was something that we

503
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,920
did at home.
It was a thing we built to know

504
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,240
from that every year at school.
It was like a big, it was a big

505
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:53,200
thing and it felt right for me.
So when I heard back in back a

506
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,320
couple weeks ago, months ago,
whatever that they were doing at

507
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,320
the Los Muertos episode, like do
I think it's going to be my

508
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040
fick?
No, but I will be watching Mr.

509
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,320
My near.
Yeah.

510
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
I'd like my lavender latte sent
to my home please.

511
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,520
You know financial compensation
is not necessary but like a hat

512
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560
tip would be nice.
Yeah.

513
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,080
But like, I'm not gonna sit here
and get mad if it hasn't.

514
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,400
If, if they don't, if it's not
resonant at all.

515
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,040
If anything, it makes me want to
be like, hey, did you?

516
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Did you?
Are you excited about this

517
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,000
episode?
Cool.

518
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,800
Read my fick.
Right.

519
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Yeah.
Like that's the part of it I'm

520
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,800
excited about.
I think that's a huge part of it

521
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,520
is this feeling of needing to be
right and needing to be right

522
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,280
first, needing to be like the
first post with the most

523
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,520
engagement and the most notes
and like proving that you,

524
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,560
you're doing the show right,
you're doing the show correctly.

525
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160
You are.
You are correct about your

526
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,920
opinions about a property and
that that you understand it the

527
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,080
most.
You understand the characters

528
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720
the most and the most correct
like.

529
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,760
And like, the thing about it is,
I get it.

530
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,960
I get it.
I get it.

531
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,720
I.
Want I want to be right of?

532
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,320
Course, everyone wants to be
right.

533
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Everyone.
Feels awesome.

534
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,960
We're all fucking a students.
All of us, we're all fucking a

535
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000
students.
We know what's going on like we

536
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600
need to be right.
We need to be very first.

537
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,160
We need to be very loudest.
We, of course we.

538
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440
Everyone wants to be patted on
the head and told that you're

539
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,360
good and.
And like, so I, I think it's an

540
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,960
awful confluence of events
because like over the last few

541
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,720
weeks, you know, we've been
looking at resumes and one of

542
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,520
the things that resumes now
really, really, really want are

543
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,200
hard data and numbers.
I ran X number of programs at Y

544
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:58,760
dollars of budget per event with
a CSAT score of 5.6 of five

545
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,680
like.
And so in order to kind of have

546
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040
those numbers, we look for those
numbers everywhere.

547
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,880
What are your gains at the gym?
Are you gaining fat?

548
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960
Are you losing fat?
Are you gaining muscle?

549
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Are you losing muscle?
Did what's your new PB?

550
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080
Did you did you add another ton
plate to your deadlift?

551
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,480
You know, can you cut calories?
Can you count calories?

552
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Can you get your steps in?
And so you participate in fandom

553
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,000
the same way.
How many notes did I get?

554
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Are you optimizing your phantom
experience?

555
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,960
Are you optimizing your phantom
experience and like that is?

556
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Not the fucking point.
That's not the point.

557
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:42,800
And also it's how it works now
and for me, baby, I'm trying so

558
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,800
hard to not let it be me.
I'm trying, I am failing, but I

559
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,560
am trying, which is important.
It's.

560
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,200
Very hard not to get wrapped up
in it.

561
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,800
It's.
So hard not to get wrapped up in

562
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,600
it.
Yeah.

563
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880
And so you because people want
to belong because you do you

564
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,120
want to belong.
And especially like, so I don't

565
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:10,360
remember 'cause I was so firmly
in the claim section of Glee

566
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,280
that like multi shipping didn't
even cross my, like cross my my

567
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:20,000
path at all, you know, and I
wasn't deep enough in Febari to

568
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,480
get the Finchal stuff and
nobody's fighting about

569
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800
Quintana.
So like, or nobody's talking

570
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,760
about Britanna, they were
fighting about Quintana.

571
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,840
But you know, that was just like
a fun other thing that happened.

572
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,680
But you know, in Teen Wolf, I
again was so firmly and Steric.

573
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,320
I didn't really get the city of
stuff.

574
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,400
And then by the time I got to
the city of stuff, everyone had

575
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:48,680
moved on to Theo.
And so the multi shipping really

576
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,320
worked in Teen Wolf and it was
kind of, you know, yeah, Steric

577
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,120
is my is my core pairing.
But everybody else shake them

578
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,880
up.
You want to put Allison with

579
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,680
Isaac or Allison with Scott or
Allison with Kira or Allison

580
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240
with Malia or Allison with
Jordan Parrish or like Allison

581
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,680
with like whatever.
And it doesn't matter.

582
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,760
And it didn't matter.
You had your nucleus and then

583
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,680
everyone else around kind of
shuffled.

584
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:19,080
But with 911 it is such a siloed
and difurcated system.

585
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,240
Yeah.
And even for those of us who

586
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,120
kind of want to cross the
streams, we can't.

587
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,320
There's no middle ground where
you can where you can be without

588
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,720
kind of getting barked out by
one side or the other, which is

589
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,600
wild.
It is wild.

590
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,000
Like it's like it's personal.
Like it's personal.

591
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,840
Like it's personal.
The amount of Anon hate I have

592
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,320
seen like going around my dash.
It's like what are you people

593
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,520
doing?
Why, why, Why is it so critical

594
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800
that this be a thing that you'd
say out loud?

595
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Yeah, I mean, my answer to that
is always just turn off Anon.

596
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,800
Yes, absolutely.
Just turn it off.

597
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,800
Like don't post it, don't
respond to it, just turn it off.

598
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,720
I know that might mean that shy
people can't ask you questions,

599
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,560
but like, that's the price.
Honestly, the part of it that

600
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,320
makes that drives me the most,
you know, crazy about it is that

601
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,679
I don't think you can actually
anymore reply privately to an

602
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,760
inbox message you used to be
able to like to reply, like

603
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,120
sending postcards back and
forth.

604
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,920
I think I have recently.
I haven't.

605
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,480
I can't figure out how.
I mean, I did, but maybe they

606
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,000
never got it.
Yeah.

607
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,239
'Cause like every time I send
something in that I'm just like,

608
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,840
hey, this is like a just a
private thing I want to send you

609
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,880
is it gets posted.
Oh and it's like I would love to

610
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:51,159
not post these.
I would love to but I I don't

611
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,600
know how to do that anymore.
Maybe it's just me not knowing

612
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,360
where the buttons are.
They may have changed the

613
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,040
button.
I feel like I have sent an inbox

614
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,320
privately in like the last
month.

615
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,600
I'll try it.
But honestly I don't get a lot

616
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,000
of messages.
I have.

617
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080
I have one sitting in my inbox
from you, so I'll try it.

618
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,360
OK, But like it is it is so
harsh, It's so vitriolic.

619
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,560
And if you were that person who
learned from a place like Teen

620
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,360
Wolf about, you know, multi
shipping, there's there's simply

621
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,640
no place in the current phantom,
at least on Tumblr.

622
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,560
I don't know about Twitter.
I don't know about TikTok.

623
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,200
I don't know about Instagram.
I don't.

624
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,800
I don't go to Twitter.
I don't go.

625
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,800
I don't go there.
I don't, I don't go there, but

626
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,240
it is like I've got a handful of
people on my dash who are in

627
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,000
fact multi shippers and they're
just alone on little islands.

628
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,080
And I wouldn't consider myself a
multi shipper, but I'm I

629
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,880
definitely learn more toward
multi shipping than a lot of my

630
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,040
friends.
And it's it feel, it can feel

631
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,560
scary to say it out loud.
I mean, it's currently, I mean

632
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,880
it's always been a little rough
saying the thing that is against

633
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,360
the flow of traffic.
Yes, it's always a little rough.

634
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,160
It's always a little rough doing
that.

635
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,880
But I think the 911 fandom, I
don't know if it's an age issue,

636
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:10,960
it's definitely a skill issue
an.

637
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,160
Experience issue.
There's a there's a skill gap in

638
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,240
there.
Yeah, of like, wow, no one wants

639
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:21,120
to hear a conflicting opinion.
No one.

640
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,880
And again, this is a this is a
Tumblr problem for me because I

641
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,120
can't speak to the other ones.
Yeah, I don't go the other

642
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,160
places.
I mean, I'm I'm on TikTok, but

643
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,120
for like the podcast.
Yeah.

644
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,280
So I don't I don't post right.
So I certainly wouldn't be

645
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,760
interacting in that way.
Yeah, it's there's a lot of

646
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,160
there's a lot of what seems to
be behavior that is explained by

647
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,280
an over reliance on an
algorithm.

648
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,720
Tumblr has always been in the
one of the reasons that it is

649
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:56,000
kind of the way it is, is that
it's very much a choose your own

650
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,480
choose your own adventure.
You choose who to follow.

651
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,600
You figure out, you know, oh,
hey, this person that I really

652
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,440
like keeps reblogging this other
person's stuff.

653
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,720
Maybe I should go check them
out.

654
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,360
And that's kind of how it how it
goes.

655
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,080
And then you open or close the
floodgates kind of as you need

656
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,600
to.
But so many people now just go

657
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,160
through and like 1000 things
thinking like on Twitter, like

658
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,240
on Instagram, like on Tiktok,
that's going to feed them more

659
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,880
of the same.
And like it kind of does on the

660
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,840
4U tab.
But like, generally speaking,

661
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,720
that's not really how it works
on Tupperware, nor should it be.

662
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,600
That's not how the that's not,
that's not one of the cool

663
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,120
things about the platform.
Yeah, it's not why we're here.

664
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,440
That's not why we're here.
And so it does require you to

665
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,400
make more active choices in who
you talk to and why and what art

666
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120
do you share and why and where
and how.

667
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,640
But we've lost a bunch of the
old fandom tenants and it's

668
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,600
about trying to explain to the
folks who haven't done it

669
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,160
before.
Like, no, I'm actually not going

670
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,360
to shit on people who ship Buck
and Bobby or who ship Buck and

671
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,560
Maddie.
Like I have Wincest on my

672
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,080
dashboard.
I've got I've got a mutual who

673
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,000
fell head first into Wincest and
I'm like, OK, great.

674
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Have fun.
That's what I've got.

675
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,440
Blocking tags is for.
I have another one who is head

676
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,680
first into into John and and
Sansa from Game of Thrones.

677
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,640
They're not even related, Yeah.
They're a little related a.

678
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Little related.
And and you know, you want to

679
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,560
talk about the Targaryen, like,
cool, fall head first.

680
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,960
It's not for me.
But like, if you decide that you

681
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,760
want to ship Buck and Maddie, by
all means, it's fiction, it's

682
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,040
fandom.
I'll block the tag.

683
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,960
Don't worry about it.
That that's it's always

684
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,720
curating.
Your own experience?

685
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,360
It's not for me.
Yes, pulling your own socks.

686
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,720
Yeah.
You don't want to read about old

687
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,160
man Yawi?
Fantastic.

688
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,800
Block the tag you.
Block the fucking tag.

689
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,200
It's you.
Don't want you don't want to

690
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,760
read Victoria about Bobby and
and Brad.

691
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,280
Amazing.
Block the tag.

692
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,520
Like block you block the tag.
It's not.

693
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,640
It's it's like there's a bunch
of folks who believe that only

694
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,600
their moral purity is worthy of
content.

695
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Yeah.
And I can for sure promise you

696
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,160
if you go any further than the
main page of any pornographic

697
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,480
website, that is not the case.
Not the case I.

698
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,080
Promise.
And you go.

699
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,960
Into the politics section of
your local library, you will

700
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,600
find things that don't subscribe
to the way you see the world, I

701
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,920
promise.
Even if you find it morally

702
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,240
repugnant, that's a you.
Problem.

703
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,080
That's a you problem.
And like, as we talk about, you

704
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,120
know, bigger things that have a
bugger effect on the world, of

705
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,280
course, you know, we're going
to.

706
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,200
There's big, big, scary, bad
politics that are pretty bad for

707
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,040
everybody.
But this is fiction.

708
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,800
It's deeply fiction.
And is not representative of

709
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,520
your moral purity.
No.

710
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,000
Like it's just not.
Even your interests.

711
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,320
No it's not.
There's fick.

712
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,680
I read that if it approached me
in real life, I would run away

713
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,000
screaming.
Of course.

714
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,960
But it's fick, so I eat that
shit with a spoon and I leave

715
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,680
kudos.
Leave kudos I like.

716
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,880
I'm looking through Ficks.
They have the ficks in my little

717
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:33,520
tab have between a six and a 14%
hits to kudos ratio.

718
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,080
That is not enough.
If you finish a fic, you leave a

719
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,920
kudo.
It's not that hard.

720
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,600
It's not that hard.
If you love it, leave a comment.

721
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,680
Do not.
Kudos are not limited resources,

722
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,840
guys.
They're not limited.

723
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,560
No, they're not.
They're not.

724
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,400
I don't know why this turned
into 44 minutes of me ranting

725
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,880
about Tumblr politics.
Well, because that's the

726
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,760
experience of being in a fandom,
and the fandom that we're in

727
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,600
right now is 911 and it's
there's a lot of it that's kind

728
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,560
of fun, yeah.
There's a lot of fun, actually.

729
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,320
I mean, you know, there's
engaging in it the way I do,

730
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:17,480
which is primarily reblogging
gift sets, talking to you, and

731
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,240
writing fic.
Because at this stage, the

732
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:25,800
thought of making a text post is
like, Oh no, I'm not doing that.

733
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,840
I'm not.
No, that sounds like a bad idea.

734
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,600
I don't know.
Because it just seems if you do

735
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:41,280
not subscribe to the the current
thought bubble of the day,

736
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,080
there's no point in saying it
out loud.

737
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,360
If if you're not going to follow
the flow of traffic, then don't

738
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:55,280
speak on something right?
Like, if so, everyone's writing

739
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,960
paramedic may probe Harry.
Yeah.

740
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:04,240
And it's become like a a given
that that's what they should do

741
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,520
and should be.
And it's like there's no wiggle

742
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,640
room to have a secondary thought
about it.

743
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,720
And helps, I don't like it.
Great.

744
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,840
I don't either.
I think it's silly.

745
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,960
On my bingo card I have
Journalist May sounds great.

746
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,680
I in my little there's only 17
characters in the world.

747
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,520
She interns with Taylor Kelly.
Great.

748
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,840
Because I love Taylor Kelly.
You know, OK, so I was thinking

749
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,320
we had this, this WhatsApp
conversation about it.

750
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,320
And one of the thoughts that I
had forgotten to say is like one

751
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,320
of the reasons Taylor Kelly is
interesting is because she's not

752
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,320
part of the 118.
She has a life outside of them.

753
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,920
And is only.
Ancillarily, her like she's the

754
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,720
journalist.
She doesn't work for the 118.

755
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,120
She's not a paramedic, She's not
a firefighter.

756
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,600
She has a job.
And sometimes she interacts with

757
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,440
them because her job brings her
to them.

758
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,600
Yeah.
And frankly, she brings herself

759
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,800
to them like she doesn't need to
interact with them at all.

760
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,840
And that's the problem I have
with Paramedic May and Probe

761
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Harry, is that it's acting like
that is the only pathway for two

762
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,640
people on this show is to
somehow be involved as a first

763
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,200
responder.
And I think that is insane.

764
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,840
Are you telling me that these
two kids who have grown up

765
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,720
around first responders think
that's all there is?

766
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,120
They're kids.
They're going to be like, fuck

767
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,320
that noise.
I'm not doing what my parents

768
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,800
do.
Considering.

769
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560
My their adult friends are all
paramedics and firefighters.

770
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,000
They're going to be like, fuck
you guys, I'm doing something

771
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,480
else.
I'm going to go moved to

772
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,840
Saskatchewan like.
Literally considering they just

773
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,160
lost a parent.
They just lost a first responder

774
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,520
parent.
Yes, Sir.

775
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,320
Like that is the last thing on
their minds right now.

776
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,680
May has already worked kind of
sort of as a first responder in

777
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,000
dispatch.
She left that job for a reason.

778
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,080
Yeah, she did.
Like, do I love seeing competent

779
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,160
May with a clipboard standing
next to competent Eddie with

780
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,240
blue gloves?
Of course I do, I I like seeing

781
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,840
her on my screen.
But I'd like her more if she had

782
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,960
different people to talk to.
Right.

783
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,520
And that was a lot of my point
is that if the writers can't

784
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,320
make them interesting without
keeping them in the BLOB of the

785
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,160
main cast, they're not good
writers.

786
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,160
That's the problem.
I'm I'm.

787
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,480
I'm going back and thinking of
other characters because we have

788
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,520
very slowly kind of whittled
away at the extra fluff.

789
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,760
Yeah.
Over time, which has that Brad?

790
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,000
God damn it.
I miss Brad.

791
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,720
I honestly, we were talking
about I like.

792
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,960
Brad and honestly, we were
talking about it of having

793
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,080
having Harry go be a PA that
Hotshots.

794
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080
That's fucking funny to me
because that would be a neppo.

795
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,560
Baby that would be amazing
because everyone would hate him,

796
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,480
including Gerard, who is the
who's the technical advisor, but

797
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,560
he is the Bobby Nash Neppo baby
and Brad would just carry him

798
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,720
around like piggyback style like
just like he was fun.

799
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,200
I think that'd be fucking funny
because he would actually, like,

800
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,800
randomly have good information
about being a technical advisor.

801
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,960
Yeah.
So like, poor Gerard's trying to

802
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,360
do his bullshit job.
And like, Harry pops up with

803
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920
like, well, actually, and he's
like, get the fuck out of here.

804
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,360
So like.
Apparently, according to episode

805
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600
4, he makes a damn fine latte.
And he makes a damn fine latte,

806
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,280
so he's just showing people up
left and right and they can just

807
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,520
use the same back lot.
They don't have to have a new

808
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,000
set.
You get to bring back Hotshots,

809
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,360
which is both stupid and funny,
and I get branded.

810
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,560
And funny.
I'm a stupid and funny.

811
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,760
And everybody in LA has been APA
for like 6 months at one point

812
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,200
in their life.
Absolutely.

813
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,160
I just think.
Stupid and funny makes more

814
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,480
sense and like I I think it
would be funny, but does it make

815
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,880
sense as a career?
And he does.

816
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,480
And he doesn't even have a GED.
You.

817
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,920
Could at least be APA.
That's the thing.

818
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,400
That's where we're going to
start getting tricky is like I

819
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,240
talked to you, I think about an
episode that I would love to see

820
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,240
if they're going to continue
down this path, which is like

821
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,480
exam day.
Oh yeah, exam day.

822
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,880
Everyone has to take a test.
Well.

823
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,720
Because.
Not one of these fuckers has

824
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,120
taken an exam in eight years.
You know how many tests

825
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,840
firefighters have to take?
They haven't done any.

826
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,680
There's not been one episode of
training.

827
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Firefighters spend most of their
fucking days training.

828
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,560
Yeah, it like I so they in in
the in the opener, Chimney and

829
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,400
Eddie discussed like the only
thing between you and a

830
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,200
permanent capancy is the exam.
You just need to take the exam.

831
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,840
Just take the test.
That's a real thing.

832
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Eddie probably needs to take his
like paramedic, like re upping

833
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,600
or whatever as he's like moved
around.

834
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,280
She says he quit.
Yeah, 'cause he fucking quit.

835
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,720
He's got to take that exam.
Harry's going to take his GED.

836
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,680
And then you can put like Hen
and and Buck and Ravi into like

837
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,040
either they're like testing,
they're do they're helping out

838
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,840
with test day at the at the
Academy or they have to go in

839
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,320
for their like annual re UPS and
physicals or whatever.

840
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,600
People have to do physicals all
the time.

841
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,280
I would kill for a test day
episode because it it it, it

842
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,960
fills so many gaps and it would
be so much fun.

843
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:15,800
But like, we talked about this,
I think in person ish, we talked

844
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,600
over the phone, I think back in
the spring about like when they

845
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,800
killed Bobby.
It's how do you attach Athena to

846
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,600
the main story?
And the Phantom at the time was

847
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,680
like spouting off a bunch of
different random things.

848
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,200
But the only realistic thing we
kind of nudged into was like,

849
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,240
well, they could make Harry a
firefighter And none of us were

850
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:45,480
really stoked about that.
We're like, this is kind of a

851
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,240
shoehorn, but like, I guess.
But the problem is it's

852
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,040
unfortunately the only answer.
I don't know if it is the only

853
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,640
answer.
I don't I I don't know.

854
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,160
I think that.
By killing Bobby, they wrote

855
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,080
themselves into an enormous
corner.

856
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,160
They did.
They did.

857
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,800
With How do you keep Athena
attached?

858
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,280
And you could keep her attached
with hen.

859
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,360
Yeah, well, she could be an
arson investigator.

860
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,800
Dude she needs to take the
detective exams.

861
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,080
What she needs to do?
Testing.

862
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,680
Got to get off the streets.
Oh my God, Athena takes a

863
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,280
detective exam.
Did we know that she had been

864
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,840
shot in the leg before?
No was that information Retcon

865
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,160
does help to explain her limp
and like why she doesn't do

866
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,920
great like long term being on
the street.

867
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,920
I was like, did we know that
before?

868
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,240
But it does make a little more
sense.

869
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:37,760
She should not be on the street.
Should not, should not be on the

870
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,440
street.
She and she and Buck have more

871
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,880
in common.
Neither of you should be on

872
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,800
active duty right now.
Well.

873
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,200
Eddie's been shot in the leg
too, like.

874
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,000
That's true, that's true.
So was hen they.

875
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,800
Are a mess.
I don't think Jimmy's been shot

876
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,000
in the leg, but he didn't get
stabbed in the brain, so he

877
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,760
wouldn't have.
Packed in the brain, stabbed in

878
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,680
the side.
Stabbed in the tummy I like.

879
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,440
Do not want the 118 responding
to my fire frankly.

880
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,720
No, they're going to fall to
pieces.

881
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,560
Neither.
None of them can lift their elf.

882
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,000
None of them can lift their arms
above their head.

883
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,400
They cannot.
They absolutely cannot.

884
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Even though Eddie's like his,
like video game cheer mode is

885
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,560
him, like pumping his hands over
his head like he's doing a clean

886
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,960
press.
He does not have that range of

887
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:24,640
motion at all.
He.

888
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,800
Does not have that range of
motion, not at his shoulder.

889
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,840
Like they could have done it
with Hen.

890
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,440
But I think because of like
where Aunt Angela Bassett falls

891
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160
like on the call sheet and like
how she's actually supposed to

892
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,360
be the protagonist, it wouldn't
have given her enough story.

893
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,560
She would, she would kind of
fall even if they bumped up Hen

894
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,440
and like gave them more to do,
it would be really hard because

895
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,680
Hen wouldn't be hanging out with
Athena on the job or like at her

896
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,600
house necessarily.
Like to do that, she would have

897
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,200
to really get more integrated
into the Wilsons.

898
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,880
OK.
Yeah, yeah.

899
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,480
And like, that doesn't quite
work, I think, for contractual

900
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,960
obligations.
So like, I really, I really

901
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,720
don't know how they're going to
how they're going to swing this.

902
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:20,080
But yeah, I, I didn't love probe
Harry at the time.

903
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,040
I don't super love probe Harry.
Now, you know, we talk a lot,

904
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,200
The Phantom talks a lot about
kind of how young and reckless

905
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,360
and stupid Buck was when in in
Season 1 when he joined the fire

906
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,720
department.
Yeah.

907
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,360
That boy was at least mid
twenties, 26.

908
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,280
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, a solid group of years

909
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,160
older than Harry.
Mm hmm.

910
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,840
And the Academy will not look at
him if he doesn't have a GED.

911
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,600
They won't even try.
No, not even.

912
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,200
Not even remotely.
Not even Also, you wanna you

913
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,400
wanna talk about somebody just
at the high school, Talk to Mr.

914
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,360
Judd Rider.
I put a call to Mr. Judd Rider.

915
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,760
Got it To firefighters.
Here I hope he moves to LA with

916
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,280
with grace.
You also get a pay if you have a

917
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,840
higher education in the LAFD.
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

918
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,600
Like, yes, the fire department
is a place for all of these

919
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,520
wonderful misfit toys, but also.
But also.

920
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,280
Harry, my guy.
My dude.

921
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,760
I need him to get to like the
the mid spring like episode like

922
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,840
13 the the second finale and be
like I don't want to be a

923
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,800
firefighter anymore like good.
Yeah, good.

924
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Do something else.
Go.

925
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,840
Be an architect.
Go learn to play the piano.

926
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,880
Go do other things.
You dropped out of high school,

927
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,160
you had a job at a coffee shop
and you have lived in two

928
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,760
states.
That's that's the decision

929
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,680
you're making with your Harry.
Harry, my guy.

930
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,400
I've really enjoyed having me
and Harry around.

931
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:57,960
I do too.
I mean, that's nice.

932
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,360
I'm excited to like see them and
how they are as characters and

933
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,720
how they progress and all that
stuff, but like, they need other

934
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,760
other things.
Other friends get out of the

935
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,280
BLOB.
Get out of the BLOB.

936
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:09,360
Yeah, get out of.
That's always.

937
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,960
I mean, an issue with ensemble
casts is like, they inevitably

938
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,840
make them incestuous.
Yeah.

939
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,840
Which helps.
I think that Hen is already

940
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,200
married, that that keeps her out
of the BLOB.

941
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:28,760
Now, personally, I do want Buck
and Eddie blobbed up, but that's

942
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,920
like, that's it.
Which is also why I don't want

943
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Mei and Ravi together like D
BLOB.

944
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:38,800
I BLOB out, go out outside of
the BLOB, get D BLOB.

945
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,040
I don't need May and Ravi
fucking up.

946
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,960
I don't get it.
Out, out, out, out.

947
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:48,800
I will take May and Ravi for
like a couple of episodes.

948
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,120
I would love to see a
conversation of especially

949
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,840
probably Buck and Ravi going,
like, I should probably start

950
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,840
dating again.
And Ravi's like, yeah, maybe me

951
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,480
too.
And then they kind of like, dip

952
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,720
back into the dating pool.
And Robbie, after an episode or

953
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,960
two is like, yeah, man, I went
on a few dates.

954
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,440
It's not much, you know, she's
delightful, but she's not for

955
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,680
me.
I'm really.

956
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,120
I have you know other other
ideas in mind.

957
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,960
So like that I could do but long
term BLOB like get out of the

958
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,480
BLOB, get out of the.
BLOB out of the BLOB.

959
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,520
Now one of the things I am
tentatively crossing my little

960
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:30,120
fingers for that they have set
up nicely with Grant Family

961
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,000
begins 9/4.
I would like to see Michael

962
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,480
back.
Recast.

963
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,840
Recast that man because they
they literally gave us young

964
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,480
Michael.
The audience hasn't seen regular

965
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,920
Michael in God like five seasons
now.

966
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,040
Recast that man, bring back
David, bring his husband back

967
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,840
because that once again ties
Athena back to the storyline.

968
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,720
It gives her more to do, and if
anyone were going to go through

969
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:05,360
any kind of sexuality crisis as
a grown adult with children and

970
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,200
families and responsibilities,
it might be super cool to have a

971
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,520
character who's already done
that to like.

972
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,920
Shepherd.
To shepherd that particular

973
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,440
conversation.
Yep.

974
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Might be might be nice.
Might, might be nice.

975
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,320
And you know what Athena really
needs right now?

976
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,800
She needs a fucking partner.
She does.

977
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:30,800
Athena needs a fucking partner.
It's kind of nice to like,

978
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,120
briefly when she briefly had a a
cop partner, yeah.

979
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,200
And then I liked him.
McCluskey.

980
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,600
Yeah, yeah.
I liked him.

981
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,560
Yeah.
But yes, I have to wonder, was

982
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,080
that her last partner?
Is that why she doesn't do

983
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,840
partners maybe?
It might be it kind of makes.

984
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,280
Sense like I couldn't save the
last one.

985
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,760
I won't put myself.
I won't.

986
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,400
I won't do that again.
I don't know that she gets to

987
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,160
make that choice as an officer.
She doesn't.

988
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,920
She does not.
Yeah, that was so sad.

989
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,600
But you know, we got young Rick,
we got young Rick Romero.

990
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,960
Detective Romero loved that for
us.

991
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,280
Like it was great.
That was great.

992
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Young Athena is incredible.
I love it.

993
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,680
She's phenomenal.
She's phenomenal.

994
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,280
She's so good.
And all of those like interview

995
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,840
segments with the two Athenas in
the liminal space.

996
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:31,600
I just honestly that I think as
we bring it all the way back

997
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,400
around is what bugged.
It's what it's what bumped me

998
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,560
because it was like they were
trying to shoehorn in a stars

999
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,120
metaphor to bring space
together.

1000
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:49,080
Yeah.
I have never heard of stars as a

1001
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,640
metaphor for grief.
I'm sure that somebody has.

1002
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,760
I'm sure it works for them.
It didn't hit for me, but like

1003
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,800
so much of this felt like it was
like 3 ideas in a trench.

1004
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:03,800
I know.
I know.

1005
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,200
I mean, I've heard like the
vastness of space, Yeah, but not

1006
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,480
a *.
Yeah, honest to God I think it.

1007
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,160
To me it felt like 3 ideas in a
trench coat.

1008
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,960
Yeah, I know.
And I especially considering

1009
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,520
that that they dedicated it to
like, the memory of Tim Meyer's

1010
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,480
father, like, yeah.
Is this how you process your

1011
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,880
grief?
By throwing yourself into outer

1012
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,440
space?
I mean, maybe.

1013
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,120
Like maybe?
Maybe.

1014
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:39,040
Like, maybe, but yeah, this felt
like they wanted young Athena,

1015
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,840
Grant begins.
They wanted space.

1016
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,240
Yeah, he wanted to like, have
fun in space.

1017
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,160
There was no fun in space.
There was only Trisha.

1018
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,960
I think he enjoys these like big
set pieces, like with a fucking

1019
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,400
helicopter.
Like, did we need that?

1020
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,120
We didn't need that.
We.

1021
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,440
Didn't need that.
But I I think he likes these big

1022
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,000
set pieces with the fucking
plane and the cruise ship and

1023
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,080
and space right like spending.
Lamp and.

1024
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,640
Yeah.
And it's like, OK, cool, cool,

1025
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,720
cool, cool.
You're having a lot harder time

1026
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,480
mushing in the the softer pieces
into that.

1027
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,760
Yeah, to keep the characters
going.

1028
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,120
Yeah.
So I'm going to need you to.

1029
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,680
Put it, but it was pretty
squishy because at this point

1030
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,560
for me, and again, everyone's
experiences is different.

1031
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:37,160
I really enjoyed one and two.
I enjoyed 3, but not as much and

1032
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,600
I enjoyed 4, but it was a it was
different.

1033
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,840
I I really enjoyed young Athena.
The rest of it wasn't didn't hit

1034
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,360
for me.
No, it's like needed to be

1035
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,440
somewhere else.
Almost, yeah.

1036
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,120
Yeah, needed to be somewhere
else.

1037
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:59,960
Like for me, we are going to
come into 95 and I am basically

1038
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:04,320
still the 118 staring out over
the water, looking at the whale

1039
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,640
that I could cut out the rest of
it.

1040
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,600
Yeah.
I could cut out the entire space

1041
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,800
arc and nothing would be
different.

1042
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Yeah, well, I think part of it
is that it's so obviously, hey,

1043
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,080
this thing happened in real
life, wouldn't it be funny that

1044
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,840
we did it on the show?
Yeah.

1045
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,400
Which is and what can?
Be fun.

1046
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,040
Which can be fun, but it is I
like it when it's a little more

1047
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,480
subtle.
Yeah.

1048
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Like, oh, celebrities did this
in real life and let's make fun

1049
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,400
of Elon Musk.
Like I'm happy to make fun of

1050
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,640
Elon Musk all day, but I need
you to like loop it into the

1051
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,640
ethos of the show 1st and build
it from there rather than stick

1052
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520
it on top of the show.
Like it.

1053
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:54,800
I want it to grow organically
from the like meat of the show.

1054
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:01,360
Yeah, it just, I liked so much
of it, but it just it I'm

1055
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,480
missing the connective tissue.
Yeah.

1056
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:05,440
I'm missing the connective
tissue.

1057
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,640
Like, do I just want to watch
Angela Bassett on my TV screen

1058
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,160
all day?
Sure, sure.

1059
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,440
Amazing.
Love it.

1060
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,520
Absolutely.
I really love Athena.

1061
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,920
I love her relationships with
her kids, which I'm hoping we

1062
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,280
will get a chance to dissect a
little bit.

1063
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,560
Now that everyone's a lead,
let's talk about.

1064
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,520
You.
Know, let's talk about yeah.

1065
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,200
RIP.
I hope he's having a lovely day

1066
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:37,080
with his hot wife and his, you
know, burgeoning film career and

1067
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,800
his, you know, lavender oatmeal
lattes.

1068
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,000
I hope he's having a great with
his phone on silent.

1069
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,920
I do know the story.
I hope he's having a lovely day.

1070
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:52,040
Mr. Annie Rude Fisher Roadie, I
like like, let's talk for a

1071
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,400
minute about, you know, Athena's
relationship with May now that

1072
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,880
May is like growing as an adult.
And then let's talk about her

1073
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,160
relationship with Harry.
Does she have a relationship

1074
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,480
with her son?
Doesn't seem great.

1075
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,200
And what does it look like?
And is she going to do the work

1076
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,280
to fix?
It there was as soon as they

1077
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,600
were rebuilding the house and
they were like no rooms for the

1078
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,320
kids, I was like what is
happening?

1079
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,440
What?
Yeah, I there was a, a really

1080
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:25,400
wonderful meta text post talking
about that.

1081
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,480
We're that there's a a mirror,
right?

1082
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,840
There's a lot of mirrors kind of
in different arcs happening

1083
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,600
right now.
But that one of them is that

1084
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,080
we've seen the Buckleys from the
kids side, and now we're seeing

1085
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,400
the Buckleys from the parent
side that Athena lost in her

1086
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:53,760
grief with her oldest daughter,
parentified with her young son

1087
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:59,640
making reckless decisions to try
to get their attention in which

1088
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,480
the sister has taken kind of
soul care and responsibility for

1089
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:08,760
the son because mom is
completely tapped out in her

1090
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,320
grief.
And it's like we, we were so

1091
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,840
able to vilify the Buckley
parents as they deserve and to

1092
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,920
empathize with Buck and Maddie
about what they were going

1093
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,200
through.
But now we're seeing it with a

1094
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:29,200
mom who we love.
And it's can Can they get out of

1095
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,200
this cycle?
Or is it doomed to repeat?

1096
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,760
Because Buck's already stepping
in with Harry.

1097
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,360
Maddie has stepped in with May
back in Season 5 at dispatch.

1098
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,440
Like that was the kind of
they've already, they've already

1099
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,000
done some of that work.
They've laid some of those bread

1100
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,800
crumbs.
But I'm interested to see if

1101
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Athena's gonna end up making
different choices.

1102
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,280
I hope she does.
Sure.

1103
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:00,080
I think 1 issue for me is always
do you think the writers are

1104
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,080
that good 'cause I don't think
the writers are that good.

1105
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,800
I don't think it's a lovely.
I think it's a lovely idea, and

1106
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,040
I love the fandom searching
desperately for any semblance of

1107
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:16,040
meaning.
I have to have faith that these

1108
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,320
TV writers who are making more
money than I will ever see in my

1109
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,160
entire life, which isn't saying
much.

1110
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,360
Well, the writers themselves
don't make that much.

1111
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:30,560
No, but still, more than me, I
hope that they will, that they

1112
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,400
at least pretend to love these
characters like we do.

1113
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,960
I don't know.
It's a lack of love.

1114
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,600
I think the I don't know.
I never know what it is.

1115
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,640
It just I don't know, it may be.
It may be you know, time

1116
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,960
constraints, network notes.
No network notes.

1117
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,840
Oh boy.
You know, having to write to a

1118
01:02:52,840 --> 01:03:00,440
showrunner's visions whims.
And you know, I think sometimes

1119
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,200
you're deep into it and you
don't always see what everyone

1120
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,400
else is saying.
And they're you have to write

1121
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,360
fast.
It's true, although I would like

1122
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:12,080
to give an enormous shout out to
the 911 writers room, who very

1123
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,040
obviously did a summer rewatch
this year.

1124
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,920
Someone did rewatch the show?
Someone rewatch the show?

1125
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,640
I will have to say my that it's
not even a criticism.

1126
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,320
Just like, can we keep that
energy up?

1127
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,960
Because I don't want every
reference to the prior seasons

1128
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,240
to have been in the these three
episodes.

1129
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,920
Yes.
Like, like it's not just they

1130
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,600
just throw everything into this
and be like, that's it.

1131
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,720
That's all we got.
Especially if we're not gonna

1132
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,680
really bring anybody new into
the into the BLOB.

1133
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,640
You've got a lot of lore to work
through.

1134
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,640
Yeah.
They, they, they, they've all

1135
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,240
known each other for some time.
Yeah.

1136
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,600
Like there's there's other
stuff.

1137
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,320
Yeah, like.
I'm I'm really hoping my hopes

1138
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:03,280
for this season other than
always just lock bucket Eddie in

1139
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,760
in the Sue Sylvester closet in
the elevator with the locker

1140
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,480
room.
It's time for them to enter the

1141
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,360
Hurt Locker.
It's time for them to enter the

1142
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,320
Hurt Locker.
I'm, I'm, I'm ready, I'm, I'm in

1143
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,360
support.
Is that they mix up the

1144
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,240
pairings.
I really appreciate that we got,

1145
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,640
you know, Eddie and Chimney, you
know, they had like a tiff in

1146
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,880
the Firehouse and then Chimney
came to Eddie's house and they

1147
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,600
actually got to talk about it.
The fact that Eddie and Hen are

1148
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,440
partners, the fact that Buck and
Robbie are actually talking to

1149
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,400
each other, like the fact that
Hen and Athena are besties

1150
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,840
again, that we're getting Buck
and Harry, that we're getting

1151
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:44,120
Eddie and Matt, Eddie and Mae,
like Maddie and Karen.

1152
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,600
I'm really excited to like,
shake the bag a little.

1153
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,720
Yeah.
Like it's as much as I love, you

1154
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:56,560
know, Buck and Eddie and Hen and
Chimney and Chimney and Maddie

1155
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:01,480
and Hen and Karen and, you know,
like I love them I do.

1156
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,600
And also shake the bag.
Yeah I just, I I don't want to

1157
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,400
see any more posts that are like
it's the 5th episode and Buck

1158
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:14,560
and Eddie aren't talking like
it's been like 2 canonical days.

1159
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,240
It's been like 2 canonical days
guys.

1160
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,920
Like and that's that is the
problem with the four parter.

1161
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,840
It's like it's been 2 days.
It's been 2 days.

1162
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,000
It's been maybe not even that,
maybe a little longer, because I

1163
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,040
don't know how the gap was
between the Mark Consuelos

1164
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,320
getting eaten by a whale and
Henanotheena going to space.

1165
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,000
I have no actually I have no
idea.

1166
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,680
I have no concept of a time gap.
You're right.

1167
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:47,040
A week, Say a week.
Episode 1 happened and then

1168
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,920
episodes 2-3 and four.
So they were in space for

1169
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,720
probably couple hours.
Yeah, 5 or 6 at best.

1170
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,840
Because like the the debris
field was coming around every 40

1171
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,560
minutes and it came around
twice.

1172
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:08,440
Yeah, once they got to the to
ISS, so like maybe five hours

1173
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,280
they were in space that that
that five hours took place over

1174
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,600
3 episodes.
It was almost real time.

1175
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,120
Yeah, so like Buck and Eddie
aren't talking.

1176
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,600
Like when would they have?
When would they?

1177
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,880
When when there was there was no
time for a pee break.

1178
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,560
In in my heart.
In my heart not there's no,

1179
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,160
there's no canonical evidence,
but in my heart they had an

1180
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,920
entire conversation of I know
you're struggling right now

1181
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,440
because you tried to drown once
in a situation very much like

1182
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,240
this.
And you're also panicking

1183
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,360
because at one point you had
your leg crushed just like this

1184
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,560
and you were terrified that
someone was going to take your

1185
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,320
leg like we're having to do
right now.

1186
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,520
In my heart they had that
conversation, but not in Canon.

1187
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,560
Episode Kodafic can't even fit
into the episode.

1188
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:02,760
There was no time.
No time like we're having to do

1189
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,000
post leg amputation talk in like
a post 9/4.

1190
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,000
There's no they can't even have
that conversation.

1191
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800
You have to set it in the next
episode.

1192
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,000
Yeah, it's just, yeah, it
happened.

1193
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,240
It it happened in like 5 hours
over 3 episodes.

1194
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,920
Like, yes, guys, I know.
I'm sorry.

1195
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,680
I'm very sorry.
We do have the trailer for 9/5.

1196
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:28,480
I am deeply curious as to what
Buck finds in his attic or his

1197
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,360
crawl space that makes his eyes
get that big.

1198
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,320
OK, again, I love I I I want
super silly fun time.

1199
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,960
I wanted roommate buddy.
I'm so annoyed.

1200
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:45,200
I'm annoyed at lost
opportunities for actors to have

1201
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,000
fun on this show.
And I get it.

1202
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,720
Like I want, I ship it to hell
and back, I get it.

1203
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,560
That's fine.
But I it is the missed

1204
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,400
opportunity of the actors having
a good time together.

1205
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,280
Yeah, and like, roommate buddy
could have been fun and now

1206
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,080
we're like in another fucking
house.

1207
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,720
Yeah, another house, another
gigantic set piece.

1208
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Why set piece the only and again
I am I don't think I'm going to

1209
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,960
Apollo dodgeball but I'm because
the opportunity has passed now

1210
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,800
that the space debris is gone,
but.

1211
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,920
I don't.
Think I'm crossing everything I

1212
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,439
possibly can now that Buck has a
house we got to burn down South

1213
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,399
Bedford.
Listen, accidents happen.

1214
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:29,960
That electrical could be bad.
Yeah, maybe there's a gas main

1215
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,600
somewhere.
Houses have blown up for less on

1216
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,319
this show.
Houses have burned up for this.

1217
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:36,479
That lab gym is not that far
away.

1218
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,880
That lab gym is not that far
guys.

1219
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,880
I feel like what he's going to
find is like another raccoon or

1220
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,960
a rat or something in the attic
or a doll.

1221
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,120
I mean, if he's moving into a
house, it's either absolutely

1222
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,479
empty or the previous owners
have left something behind.

1223
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,600
Yeah, they've left something
behind 100%.

1224
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,000
There's there's an attic or a
crawl space and something fell

1225
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,960
over or like it's a raccoon.
It's gonna be a raccoon.

1226
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,279
All of restaurants favorite Co
star the raccoon.

1227
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,720
I was gonna say I'd be really
fact.

1228
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,800
I actually think it'd be funny
if it was another raccoon just

1229
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,000
for a call back.
Yes.

1230
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:15,160
Summer rewatch.
Summer rewatch baby I what I

1231
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,160
don't like so far and again this
is the like I need the phantom

1232
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,000
to stop looking at like 3
seconds of a trailer and being

1233
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,840
like this is what's going to
happen in the season.

1234
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:28,399
Like who fucking knows man.
My only like addendum to that is

1235
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:32,840
in the three seconds of footage.
Like what?

1236
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,399
Another boring house, like
Maddie's first apartment with

1237
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:39,479
that staircase.
Like how cute was that

1238
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,960
apartment?
God I love that like.

1239
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,520
And and hidden Karens house
actually has some character.

1240
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,960
It looks lived in and I know
it's a blank space right like

1241
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,760
this is a blank house.
He's moving in, but you can tell

1242
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,240
by the architecture that it's.
Boring.

1243
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,080
It's boring.
It's a boring house.

1244
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,840
I hope.
I hope parts of it are fun.

1245
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,280
I hope they make it fun.
I hope I.

1246
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,680
Hope they make it.
I hope they make.

1247
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,240
I hope there's something in
there that we've just seen, like

1248
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,640
one wall, but it's beige and I
didn't see any like interesting

1249
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,960
anything in it.
I was like they just found like

1250
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,360
a boring house.
They just made a.

1251
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,120
I'm hoping a little hallway.
I'm hoping that like it pans out

1252
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,480
and there's some actual
architecture, because Los

1253
01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:25,480
Angeles has some really adorable
1920s, thirties, 40s houses.

1254
01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:30,120
Yes it does.
And like please make please make

1255
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,400
it interesting.
I'm so tired of beige fucking

1256
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,160
set.
The houses of like 1980s sitcoms

1257
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:40,200
were so lived in and so
beautiful and like homey and

1258
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,240
let's.
Talk about the fucking friend's

1259
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,520
apartment.
Friend's apartment was like

1260
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,000
full.
Of stuff that you would never

1261
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,560
even look at, but it was just in
the background.

1262
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,560
And that inspired so many, so
many people, just the way it was

1263
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,600
lived and the way it was
designed.

1264
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,800
Like you.
Never even saw like you there

1265
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,120
was a closet that you never saw
but you knew it was full of

1266
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,680
stuff.
And like the bathroom, you never

1267
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,640
even went into their bathroom,
but you knew it was you went in

1268
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,440
stuff.
Twice they had, they had, they

1269
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:12,680
had checkerboard floor tiles and
a.

1270
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,200
Bathtub like but like.
The door was in New York City,

1271
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,320
kind of a new bedroom.
Oh.

1272
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,480
There's something in there like
the cabinets were full and

1273
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:24,000
colorful and it all popped on
screen and like even Eddie's

1274
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,880
house is beige.
Yeah, Eddie's and like.

1275
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,480
Beautiful blue appliances.
You're like, oh, oh, is that

1276
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,480
color?
Is it color?

1277
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,360
Is it?
Oh, it's gone.

1278
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:37,480
Eddie's Eddie's famously as the
GIF makers in my in my little

1279
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:39,760
brain, the GIF maker's on my
phone.

1280
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:44,480
Eddie's evil yellow because it's
so yellow and the lighting in

1281
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:48,920
there is so yellow.
It is, it is perhaps the most

1282
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,560
yellow.
Anything that happens in Eddie's

1283
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,480
house is just, it is a bitch to
color because it's very, very,

1284
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:58,000
very yellow.
But no, his beautiful blue oven

1285
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,520
and that light that always comes
in, in the kitchen and the, the

1286
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,640
archway in his like open space
and the iron.

1287
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,640
We love the iron, the peephole,
I guess I love, I love the iron

1288
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,080
people.
I would like some.

1289
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,640
I would like to see some more
set design.

1290
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,200
Yes I would I agree.
Set design that's that's the

1291
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,800
right answer.
Like Bucks lived in that boring

1292
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,920
ass loft for so long.
Gross.

1293
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,160
Yeah.
I know.

1294
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,840
Yeah.
But I will say burned down the

1295
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,880
South Bedford house.
I need the I you.

1296
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,000
You didn't want to give me buddy
roommates over the summer.

1297
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,320
OK, fine.
I will take them.

1298
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,720
We're burning it down.
I'm burning it down.

1299
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:34,960
We're bringing it.
We're bringing it.

1300
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:35,680
We're bringing it back.
I.

1301
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,240
Don't think he's your renter so
yeah, he can just leave anytime.

1302
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,280
Oh my God that would be Give me
a landlord episode.

1303
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,880
Oh yes, Oh my gosh, landlord.
Because we've never met his

1304
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,480
landlord.
So like because Thomas and I

1305
01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:52,680
have met apartment hunting and
there was an apartment that we

1306
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,440
both really, really liked.
But one of the things that

1307
01:12:55,440 --> 01:13:00,120
happens is that a lot of folks
will sort of rent out their

1308
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:05,080
apartments while it's for sale,
or they'll like rent out the

1309
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,520
apartment while the house it's
in is for sale, OK?

1310
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,800
So that could be a thing that
happens to Eddie is that it's

1311
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,240
like he's renting it, but the
landlord sells the house.

1312
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:18,040
Yes, yes.
Yes.

1313
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,200
So then the new buyer is like, I
actually want to move into this

1314
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,560
house.
I bought it, I want to move into

1315
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:24,800
it.
You have to leave.

1316
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,120
Yeah.
And then it can be an entire

1317
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,800
thing about Ravi because he is a
landlord.

1318
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:36,320
That is his major crime.
And hey, hey, hey, hey, that's

1319
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,880
right.
So like talking about like the

1320
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,720
rental market and what it's like
in Los Angeles and you know, Oh

1321
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,000
my God, housing and how do you
do it has.

1322
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,680
To bring his own fridge.
Like Buck doesn't have a fridge.

1323
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:49,560
Los Angeles?
Los Angeles doesn't have

1324
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:50,760
fridges.
I wrote a fic about it.

1325
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,640
It sucks.
Just OK.

1326
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,920
No, but Buck doesn't have a
fridge because he left.

1327
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,840
Hold on, hold on.
Because he left the loft, he

1328
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,120
didn't bring a fridge to Eddie's
house.

1329
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,480
Now he's leaving Eddie's house.
He doesn't have a fridge.

1330
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,720
I mean, it depends.
It depends.

1331
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,040
Did he, did he purchase that
house or is he still, is he

1332
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,040
still renting?
Because no.

1333
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,600
Here's the other thing about the
landlord episode.

1334
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,400
Evan Buckley, The man with a
notoriously terrible credit

1335
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,720
score.
Canonically terrible credit.

1336
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,600
Score I know which I don't
believe either.

1337
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,640
Firefighters make a decent
amount of money, especially with

1338
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,080
overtime.
Yeah, in theory he should be

1339
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,920
fine, but he's apparently got I
don't.

1340
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,160
OK, here's my here's my thing
about it.

1341
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,640
It's not that he has bad credit,
it's that he has no credit.

1342
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,040
Fair.
It's not that he's been making a

1343
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,760
ton of money and like spending
all this whatever and being late

1344
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,840
on his payments, it's that he
probably didn't get a credit

1345
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,880
card until like a couple of
years ago.

1346
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,880
Fair.
Yeah, bad credit and no credit

1347
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,800
are different.
Yes, bad credit and no credit

1348
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:55,760
are different.
He doesn't.

1349
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,480
Have a student loan.
He didn't go to college.

1350
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,680
No, he didn't go to college.
He.

1351
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,040
Just has a gas credit card.
Pretty.

1352
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,360
Much.
Yeah.

1353
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,680
Got to put $100 in the car,
like, let it ride.

1354
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,520
It was probably Taylor Kelly
that was like, fuck, you need a

1355
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:11,880
credit card.
And he's like, why?

1356
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,240
I don't want to spend money.
It's like, it's not about that.

1357
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:18,320
Abby probably thought it was.
Abby thought it was cute.

1358
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,720
Ali didn't stick around long
enough to note.

1359
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,160
So in my heart it was Taylor
Kelly that like convinced, like

1360
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,960
taught him what, you know, like
an intro credit card is and how

1361
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,560
you can what's the a secured
credit card where you kind of

1362
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,680
like put the money down on it so
that it helps you build that

1363
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,760
credit.
So his credit is maybe four

1364
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:41,920
years old at this point, which
can help explain how that man

1365
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,080
got a mortgage with his terrible
credit.

1366
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,200
Insane.
Because Eddie, probably.

1367
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,320
He's got Ava loan.
He should have Ava loan.

1368
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:57,880
He's renting, but he would have
access to a VA loan.

1369
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,960
Yeah, so like there, there,
there.

1370
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:05,920
That's a great like B plot to
one of these episodes is like

1371
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,600
they fucking sold the house I
live in.

1372
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,040
What are we going to do?
Yeah, yeah, I'll take that.

1373
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,480
I'll take that over fucking
space.

1374
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,520
I'll take that over space.
Let's see.

1375
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,960
I'm also crossing every finger
that the season we get a bottle

1376
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,240
episode.
Oh I love a bottle episode.

1377
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,440
I would love to see a bottle
episode.

1378
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,640
Yeah.
I would love to see a bottle

1379
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:31,440
episode options options include.
I would love in my imagination

1380
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:32,800
the fick that I will never
write.

1381
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:40,080
The Firehouse is probably around
some like warehousey district

1382
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,400
and in my heart there is a
sample sale because there are

1383
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,240
sample sales and because of the
sample sale.

1384
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:52,000
The line for the sample sale is
going up and down the sidewalk

1385
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:57,320
in front of the Bay because
there's like 3 or 400 people in

1386
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:02,120
front of the of the thing and
they refuse to move because it's

1387
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,880
like it's the sample sale.
It's like a wedding dress sample

1388
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:11,320
sale or like whatever but they
get they locked in because they

1389
01:17:11,480 --> 01:17:14,640
like it's the because the sample
sale line is like blocking them.

1390
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,080
OK.
So it's just a day trap in the

1391
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,560
Firehouse.
OK.

1392
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:24,440
I would also take a day of like
the physical exam at the Academy

1393
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:26,840
when they're doing that, like
the Lone Star thing where they

1394
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,000
take that 14 minute test.
Yep.

1395
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,960
Like over and over again.
I would love to see an episode

1396
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,600
in that room.
Yeah, that'd be cool.

1397
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,520
Also because they'd be all hot
and sweaty.

1398
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:37,960
They'd be all hot and sweaty,
all of them.

1399
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,520
Every single one of them.
I'd be in line.

1400
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:45,880
I also cross my fingers a lot
for for what I'm affectionately

1401
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,520
calling wine night.
Oh yes, everyone, everyone wants

1402
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,800
wine night.
Which is any combination of, but

1403
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:58,880
must include the nucleus of
Karen, Maddie and Eddie.

1404
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,920
OK.
Anybody if like, if Chim's in on

1405
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,160
it, if hens in on it, like
whatever.

1406
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,600
But it has to be the core of
Karen, Maddie and Eddie.

1407
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,520
Yes, got it.
I I because we got Karen and we

1408
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,200
got Karen and Maddie in early
season 9.

1409
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:19,120
Late season 8 we got Karen, Henn
and Eddie.

1410
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,240
Yep, we're.
Just going to put our hands

1411
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,520
together.
Yes.

1412
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:24,600
Going to put our hands together.
Yeah.

1413
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,240
I need it.
I want it.

1414
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,160
I feel like that's a likelihood
down the line that feels

1415
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:33,600
probable.
It feels like a new and

1416
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,680
interesting dynamic in a season
where they desperately need new

1417
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,120
and interesting dynamics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1418
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,560
Yeah, because we are.
Run out of money to do

1419
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,520
disasters.
Yes, my God, that's the cool

1420
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,440
thing about bottle episodes.
They're cheap as hell.

1421
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,520
That's the point.
It's that's how they were

1422
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,720
invented.
Literally the point.

1423
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,200
Yep, you ran out of time, you
run out of money.

1424
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,840
You put them in a room and you
make them talk.

1425
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,520
Yeah, surprise.
Are you actors?

1426
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,700
You get to prove it today.
Mm.

1427
01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:01,080
Hmm.
Yep.

1428
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,880
Yep.
So I'm just, I'm very interested

1429
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,840
and also as someone who has
observed, I'm so excited.

1430
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,120
To see.
I hope it's good.

1431
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:11,960
Like what they do?
Yeah.

1432
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,760
Even if it's just to see the
parade.

1433
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:16,280
I think it's going to look
great.

1434
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,320
I think it's going to look
amazing and like, you know,

1435
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,880
because they put out the casting
call and these are their own

1436
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,080
costumes.
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's

1437
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,760
going to look great.
This is their own regalia.

1438
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:32,040
I'm so excited to see the the
folks from Los Angeles show out.

1439
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,840
Yeah, except, yeah, I'm, I'm
very much looking forward to at

1440
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,280
least the the visuals of this
episode.

1441
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,320
Yes, I'm very much looking
forward to the visuals.

1442
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,560
I'm, I'm not going to speculate,
meta, whatever, who is going to

1443
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,000
be involved, how it's going to
go down.

1444
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,200
I just want to see it.
I need to see Athena versus the

1445
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,000
giant pumpkin.
I'm actually really looking

1446
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,080
forward to the pumpkin, so I
don't care what happens with it.

1447
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,040
I think it's going to look so
silly.

1448
01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:58,880
I'm.
Very excited.

1449
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,280
It's so good, silly.
Silly, silly woo woo is really

1450
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,200
what I'm looking for.
So good.

1451
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,560
I don't care if Shannon is
involved.

1452
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,960
Like I'm not going to waste my
time trying to dissect the

1453
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,160
episode before it happens.
No, like let me just watch it.

1454
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,160
I just want to watch it you.
I don't need to spoil it for

1455
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,800
myself before it happens.
Yeah, it's true.

1456
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,160
I why do why?
Why would I do that?

1457
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,440
I want to enjoy the watch.
It's don't tell me how the book

1458
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:29,160
ends.
I want to read it.

1459
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:33,160
Why would I?
Why would I unravel the entire

1460
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,560
episode before it's in my
eyeballs?

1461
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,080
I will say I know that you don't
want to unravel the eyeballs,

1462
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:46,120
but if it does turn out to be an
Eddy centric episode, then not

1463
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,560
calling it Diaz de Los Muertos
was a missed opportunity.

1464
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,720
Yes, it would be a missed
opportunity.

1465
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,440
That is a very funny typo that
someone did.

1466
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,720
Yes, it's great.
I do think it's funny that there

1467
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,040
was a typo in the entire fandom
Was like like OK that's why you

1468
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,640
guys need to fucking chill.
Yeah, we do need to.

1469
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,040
Can't.
You cannot build an episode out

1470
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:13,320
of a typo y'all?
My God, just simmered down.

1471
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,520
We long for community.
We do long for community, but we

1472
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:22,200
also long for content, which is
why this episode is an important

1473
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:25,160
app that is so.
Funny you long for content.

1474
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,680
There has never been more
content on Earth.

1475
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,280
I know.
Never in the history of humanity

1476
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:36,080
has there been more content.
You would explode the brain of a

1477
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,160
14th century anybody with the
amount of content.

1478
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,920
Correct.
They would Louis the 14th would

1479
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,240
die with the amount of content.
This is true.

1480
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:50,040
This is true.
We just long for the very

1481
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,680
specific content and just hope
that we don't have to be the

1482
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,800
ones to make it.
Isn't that also interesting?

1483
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:57,640
Which we can also wrap this
episode up too.

1484
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:02,080
It's like there's so much
content and yet every single

1485
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:07,000
person wants such a hyper
specific bit of content that is

1486
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:11,160
only for them.
Can't handle the episode not

1487
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:16,120
being exactly what each person
wants it to be just for them.

1488
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,920
And I will say on that note, in
the fandom is a community, you

1489
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,680
have to bring something to the
potluck.

1490
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:29,240
It is in fact true and correct.
If you are looking for a

1491
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,480
specific piece of content, write
it and you do it and and you

1492
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:36,680
cannot pay for it.
Like I can't fan art, right?

1493
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,360
I can't draw worth beats.
Not one bit of fan art's coming

1494
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,400
from me.
But I can, I have, I have paid

1495
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,400
artists for Commission.
I have traded artists for FIC

1496
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,320
like I have traded for it.
I have, I have paid money for

1497
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,280
it.
So if you cannot, if you cannot

1498
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,960
procure it via, you know, goods
and services, you do in fact

1499
01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:05,560
have to make it yourself.
And it is not unfair of me to

1500
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,120
say that.
No, it's not.

1501
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:12,080
If you want it, you do it.
IA couple like this time last

1502
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:16,760
year was we were on a phone sex
kick in fandom and I was like

1503
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,120
man, I want more phone sex and
the answer was I had to write it

1504
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,200
myself.
Yeah.

1505
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,000
I had to write my own sex thing
because I wanted it and it

1506
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,680
wasn't readily available for me
so I had to do it myself.

1507
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:32,080
A couple months ago for The Big
Bang I was like I there's been 1

1508
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:37,800
mafia like crime AU that's come
across my like come across my

1509
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,320
life and it's wonderful and I
want more.

1510
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,560
So I guess I have to be the one
to do it.

1511
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,760
It is not unfair to say that you
have to pick it up.

1512
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:53,480
And even if you can't create, if
it comes down to it, if it comes

1513
01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:56,160
down to I don't know how to
write, I don't know how to, you

1514
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,240
know, to draw.
I can't make gifts, I can't do

1515
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:02,000
whatever.
Then it is your job as a

1516
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,720
consumer to make creating worth
it.

1517
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,520
Yeah.
Reblog stuff, leave comments on

1518
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,760
fic, talk to your favorite
creators, pay the money where

1519
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,200
you can and don't.
This is this is, this is for

1520
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:18,680
free.
This is for free.

1521
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,720
I could actually get in.
I could actually get in big, big

1522
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:21,960
trouble for getting money for
it.

1523
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,960
Yeah.
Like we do this because the

1524
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,240
creativity forces its way out of
our body.

1525
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,560
And I love that you love it, but
it is not unfair to ask you to

1526
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,520
join the fight.
Yeah, Yup.

1527
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,320
So just like next time you want
to get mad about it, open, open

1528
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,960
a program instead.
I promise there are so many

1529
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,120
people out there waiting to
support you.

1530
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,000
I promise, whether you want to
start with a drabble that's 100

1531
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,080
words or whether you want to
start with your very first gift

1532
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,720
that you get the video footage
for from someplace.

1533
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,320
And it is also enough just to
like reblog.

1534
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,480
Yes, 100% a 1000% that's.
Participating.

1535
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,000
That is 100% participating,
particularly on Tumblr.

1536
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,840
Yeah, that's that counts.
That's participating.

1537
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,040
You don't have to feel like you
need to do more.

1538
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,640
But complaining that something
is not specifically for you?

1539
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:23,200
Yeah, not everything is for you.
Not everything is for you.

1540
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,800
Yeah, not everything is for me
or anybody else.

1541
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,000
Kink, tomato and all that.
Yeah, but you know, Phantom is a

1542
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,640
participatory event in one way
or the other.

1543
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,280
It is, and if we stop
participating then it dies.

1544
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,280
And that's a bummer.
It does.

1545
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,640
Supernatural is still around
because people participate.

1546
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,120
Teen Wolf is still around
because people participate.

1547
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,520
So if you want 911 to be around,
you kind of have to participate,

1548
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,000
Yep, in some way or the other.
And sometimes that's putting

1549
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,680
kudos on a thick you like and
then reading the next one.

1550
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:58,200
If you reach the end of a fic,
you press the little hard

1551
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,920
button.
It'll that that sentiment is

1552
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,560
going on my gravestone OK?
Yeah.

1553
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,280
If you didn't DNF it, it
deserves a kudos.

1554
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,280
It's very hard to write fic.
It's so hard.

1555
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,720
It's so hard.
Like remember that there are

1556
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,520
people behind all the art that
you love.

1557
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,400
Yeah, real human people.
Real human people.

1558
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,960
So Speaking of that, we love
you.

1559
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:27,240
Or at least I love you.
Emily's, you know, adequate at

1560
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:27,720
best.
She's like.

1561
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,200
Capable of emotions.
I know.

1562
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,400
Sometimes.
Clean your water bottles.

1563
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,920
Oh.
My God, clean your water

1564
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,160
bottles.
It's time, it's time.

1565
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,920
Take some vitamin D and the big
dark is coming.

1566
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,080
Yes, the big dark is coming, or
at least if you're on the the

1567
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,120
north half.
If you're where we are.

1568
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,160
If you're on the north half, the
dark time is coming.

1569
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,240
If you're on the South half,
congratulations.

1570
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,280
Sunscreen on.
Yeah, put some sunscreen on,

1571
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:57,600
chapstick, water, hydrate.
Yeah, yeah, get that sunscreen

1572
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,880
on.
It's never too late to start.

1573
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,600
It's never too late to start.
Well, yeah, I guess that's our

1574
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,360
latest iteration of 911.
What the fuck?

1575
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,240
Aw golly.
Oh golly.

1576
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,480
And yeah, so I guess thanks for
listening to.

1577
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,200
It's your choice to listen to us
rant.

1578
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:17,200
We love you, that's what we do.
Hope we've kept you company.

1579
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,960
Yes, on this, on this day of
ranting, I'm excited for the

1580
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,640
next episode and I'm excited for
the season.

1581
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,840
It is what it is, you know.
Fandom is fandom.

1582
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:32,080
It is she lives and breathes.
I have a handful of gift sets

1583
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,080
that are just in my brain just
waiting for the right time so.

1584
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,760
Ready to go, You know, always
out there writing, doing what I

1585
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,000
can to.
Yep, support the fandom.

1586
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,800
Great.
King Tomato never gets old.

1587
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:48,600
So yes, you can follow us on
Phantom on the rocks and, you

1588
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,680
know, do the whole do the whole
thing.

1589
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,800
But yeah, thanks for listening
and I guess we'll catch you on

1590
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,640
the next couple of episodes.
And that's that's what you

1591
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:00,720
missed on fandom.