Fierce, Femme, Phenomenal

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Hi, this is Emily from Glee on
the rocks, and this is a quick

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listeners.
Note before you begin this

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episode, we recorded and edited
this episode before.

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Nia Rivera's, tragic passing,
which is why there's no

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commentary about it.
We held off posting this

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episode, as we took time to deal
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episode of this podcast.
Is I The girl, which heavily

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features antenna and an
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ourselves and you guys a little
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And first, we're going to record
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more on that and then upcoming
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But for now, please enjoy this
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however you want take care of
each other.

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Hello, welcome back to another
episode of Glee on the Rocks.

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I'm Emily, I'm Mandy and I'm B.
And this is mash-off, which is a

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consistent feature of Glee are
the mashups, but this episode is

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actually just called mash-off.
It is the sixth episode of the

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third season.
It premiered, November 15, 2011.

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And I feel like telling you the
dates are really Only important

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because of how long ago that
feels now, it's like nine years.

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I mean, February feels like a
decade ago.

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So 2011 feels like it's so long
ago, it doesn't actually exist

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that it never actually happened.
Yeah, are the Jen seniors here

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thinking of how old you were
then?

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Was it really young?
Don't tell me.

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I don't want to know.
I mean, it wasn't for me, but

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then here's we were in the prime
of our youths, and I think I'm

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gonna cry Millennial.
I mean I'm definitely a

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millennial but I have the heart
of a Gen-X and growth.

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I'm just kidding.
I love today.

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Fine.
So in this episode I'm just

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going to read from the Wikia.
The third annual match of

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competition takes place with
Brittany and Santana in the

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trouble.
Tones with Mercedes.

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It's big trouble for new
directions.

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Wow.
Puck has the hots for Shelby and

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tells Quinn and tells of Quinn's
true, intentions Burton's use

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campaign heats up when the to
Glee Club rivalry is taken

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seriously.
She'll be in will attempt to

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hold a mash-up competition
between the two clubs but in

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secret Finn and Santana.
Planted dodgeball competition.

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This episode was directed by
Eric Stoltz and written by

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Michael Hitchcock.
So Michael Hitchcock.

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Shout out to Mike.
He's a gleefully fan that like

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indoors, you know, he got in
there so I think we should

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probably top this episode with a
Content warning.

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I suppose this episode features
heavily a puck storyline, which

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means there's a whole lot of
Mark salling footage and Puck is

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not Mark and Mark is Park.
But if there's anyone who

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doesn't even want to does he
want to go there fast forward to

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insert point here.
We'll, we'll put it in the show

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notes of when you can just kind
of jump ahead.

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If we do this correctly, So
yeah.

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So we have to talk about Puck
because it's a heavy storyline.

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Well said, well the episode
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Yeah.
It opens with the solo of Puck

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doing Hot for Teacher which is
just too on the nose.

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You know I like Glee sometimes I
feel like did the music, make

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the storyline into the
storyline, make the music?

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Yes.
Yeah this sense I feel like you

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were like, we love that song and
that would be great for

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practicing it.
They were reversed engineered.

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This whole thing went to
consult.

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It's I don't know, it's not even
an interesting storyline anyway

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because so much is happening.
Well, those two things aren't

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related that sentence, didn't
make a whole lot of sense, but

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like Puck having a crush on a
teacher, is a storyline.

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And Quinn, trying randomly to
get her baby back from that.

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Very same teacher is a storyline
and neither of them really

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needed to be told Exactly.
Like, Quinn just wants her baby

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back because she feel, she just
wants Beth back because she

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feels sad, and she feels sad
because the storyline has

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decided that she's just not
worth anything anymore.

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She's not head cheerleader.
She's not head of the Glee Club.

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She's not prom queen so she
needs her her daughter back.

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And at this point she doesn't
even have a love interest,

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right?
I mean, really?

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Yeah.
They can't they shoot her in

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like, shoehorn, her in with
someone soon Joe Joe Hart.

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Is that who it is?
I literally think it's, I think,

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Joe's light.
I don't know the whole story

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line to me, feels like they
really, really wanted an excuse

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to give Idina Menzel more screen
time I mean, sort of fair enough

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but also like there's a million.
Yes, there are other characters

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that could have been.
I mean, you know, it's set in

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high school so sure she's a
substitute teacher, but she's

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already Rachel's mom.
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She's literally Rachel's mom.
Like that's not big.

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Literally never give a story arc
to her being Rachel's mom in the

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first season tiny bit but still
it never lasts for the like one

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episode and I'm like help.
There's what we got There's no

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way drama queen Rachel Berry
would have been.

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So just yeah thing and just
yeah, The drum is already built

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in for her character in that
hurt.

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That's her daughter who she gave
up however many years ago.

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We don't need to add that.
She has then adopted another

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baby from her daughter's high
school friend of me.

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Like, why not?
Just stick to the the one that

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was already there, but even that
specific storyline they don't

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super Explorer.
Like they say, you know, that we

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in this episode and it's so like
weird to hear Just like stated

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like that were Rachel's just
like, I know you adopted my

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friends baby or something and
just like, oh yeah.

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That thing we never talked about
or explore deeper.

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Yep.
Because that wouldn't be like an

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ethical issue either with the
adoption agency.

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Like, whose baby is this your
daughter's friend?

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I don't know, we're not gonna
We're not gonna do this.

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Yeah, High School daughter's
friend who is I?

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So it's just nonsense and then
having so I think it would be a

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troubling story line with Puck
anyway.

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And we know that pucks character
has a thing for older women

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because that's been mentioned
before with his pool cleaning

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business, and a high school Guy,
having a crush on a teacher is

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like, okay, sure.
But given that it's Puck is

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played by the by Mark salling.
It just adds we sort of talked

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about those before we started
recording, but it's like who,

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who in Glee and the behind the
scenes, like who knew what about

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Mark salling?
And when did they know it?

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And when was this storyline
decided on and if they coincide

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then fuck those people, I mean
Glee's not a documentary.

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They sure love to write.
Yeah, it is just like, it's

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visits disturbing in a way that
I felt weird at the time.

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And now just feels like you
should not have done this.

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Yeah, it's like all together
exact same thought and I'm sure

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anybody who's re watching the
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Like, just seeing that scene of
him holding the baby is like,

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oh, and that like that is the
kind of thing.

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I would love to hear like
someone from Glee talk about

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which I know. oh, that no one's
going to cross Ryan Murphy like

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that, but I mean, I would love
to know how much information was

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shared like, did these people
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the storylines being written on
the show were a little too close

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to truth.
Yeah, there has I mean it's not

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like they were going to do an
investigation but surely You

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almost want there to be.
Like, what are the emails

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between Murphy and other people?
And what were you guys hiding?

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That could have been revealed a
lot sooner because there's,

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there's responsibility in being
a producer and a studio exec.

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And, and of course, they
wouldn't want their show brought

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down by one of their actors,
being a giant asshole, but it

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was worth it.
I mean, like I, I don't know.

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I think showrunners in Hollywood
will go a great distance in

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order to keep their yes, pretty
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Yeah, we we know that with all
of the women who come forward

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after the fact saying, like this
is the worst working

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environment, and the sexual
abuse is rampant, and I told

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people and it didn't matter.
So like what are, what's in

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Glee's closet, what skeletons
are they hiding and not even to

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hide it at this point?
Well, it's ugly had a

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documentary joke is like, it's
funny.

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Until you're like, what were you
hinting at something?

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You were, you didn't say
anything out, right?

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Fuck you like, well, not to
start this entire episode out.

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The, the saddest of notes.
There was good stuff in that

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opening scene.
Yes, if we We completely ignore

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contacts and everything else and
just like put on our blade

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goggles, everyone just put them
on and watch that seen for what

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it is.
It's an errand Christopherson.

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Stain is what it is but um
that's just me very much but so

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fun.
Great Todd's of Darren doing a

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bunch of funny stuff.
He does like a big jump, like a

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toe touch and Grabs his crotch
like, I mean, come on better

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than that.
I really appreciate watching

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someone else trying to match
Harry.

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Shum physicality.
All right, that's oh, it is.

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It's like the birth of what do
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Bike, bike and Earth, and that's
it.

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Yeah, Anderson.
And in that episode, which is

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pretty fun to watch and
underserved, bro.

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TP if there ever was one that it
did not get the time and

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development that it deserved.
So we're not The because well

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wouldn't Blaine be the other
other Asian or was his

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character?
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I could never quite figure that
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I don't know.
Do we the actor?

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Who will play?
His mother was not Asian.

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No.
Another is his brother, exactly.

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Neither of them are Asian, so
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bread but of a wasp there.
I did.

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I did like Rachel being like
that song is totally

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inappropriate.
Like, what did you sing to mr.

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Schuester, in the first season,
mmm-hmm?

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Let's not forget your little
crush.

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That's right.
I'm not surprised.

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I forgot about that.
I'm even less.

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Surprised bigly writers.
Forgot about that.

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So the whole point of the
episode is, like, okay, not the

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whole point Glee.
Never has a point of an episode,

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but the like shoe and Shelby are
like, we need to stop the

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fighting between our two teams
and the only way to do that is

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to have a competition Yes,
great.

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Yeah, yes, I liked, I liked her.
She was going with this like

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they hate each other.
Now, let's make it personal

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diet.
Like, they don't try to like

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smoosh the teams together like
make them collaborate like yeah,

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this will solve the fighting.
I think that really shows that

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she's learned as an educator,
it's true.

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Kids love Chris who Jeopardy.
Yep.

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And she's like, yes, the kids'll
love it, and love it.

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They did.
I mean, she does have the best

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Mentor ever there, in shoe the
Spanish teacher, extraordinaire.

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She's really learning from the
best though.

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I will say that same did give us
one rare thing, which is a shot

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of them in a classroom, which
was kind of funny because I feel

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like those people would not all
be sitting next to each other.

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Like I don't know.
I get that at this point in the

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show, they're supposed to kind
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Are they like the last episode
like some scenes of like Kurt

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and already in Tina like waving
to Mercedes while they were in

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there other like makeshift choir
room or whatever so that's but

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they don't talk to each other or
have any story lines outside of

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it.
So who knows Strangers in the

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Night That mashup of the you and
I you and I is like just

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Horrible though.
I forgot how bad the truth.

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Idina Menzel has such a
beautiful voice and they gave

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her the worst songs.
This season.

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Gee.
I wonder.

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Well I was gonna say
wonderfully.

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I'm Michelle had anything to do
with that.

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Well, I too not too far to
speculate.

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I don't think for your far.
She was like, I think that door

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first.
Ation has been a wide open.

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I mean, yeah, she it's a dumb.
I mean, I get why they mashed

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them up.
But okay, well, it doesn't make

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any sense either because they do
the song in there.

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Like, you know what?
It's because two, unlike things

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can be great together and then
don't make that a theme for the

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competition that they have to
pick two songs are like opposite

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genres, like the new directions
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same.
They both pick two songs by the

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same artist like that.
So why even have that

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conversation?
Where did that come from?

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It's not like they had to do.
What was the it was the was it

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called The Grey Album when it
was Jay-Z and Lincoln Park.

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Num ya num like what if they had
to do something like that?

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Like, actual songs that like
were mashups themselves and then

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like, just the, the song that
she ruined, everything has no

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correlation whatsoever to the
assignment of the week.

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Well, and a lot of their Glee
does this though, right?

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Like they give the the show
gives a thesis but then the

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story lines around it are just
like a little off track of what

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the thesis is supposed to be.
Yeah.

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Like let's have an episode about
togetherness and it rumors,

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right?
Like it's about the Glee Club

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breaking apart but really, it's
an episode about a kid who's

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lost his home, right?
It's like one from, you know,

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like set up the episode like
they were like this is the point

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in the other person.
Was like what if I only heard

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half of what you said, ignored
the other half.

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Yeah, just went for it just
really took off running with

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that note.
Like I would say this is one of

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the better episodes, that
doesn't really push the overall

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plot forward, like it's not a
competition episode or anything

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like there's no, like, super
special events.

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Actually, still a fairly good
episode.

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I don't know.
I mean I I hate this episode at

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all.
I mean, I like, I enjoyed

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watching.
Yeah.

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Ended up arms were good ended up
watching it twice because of,

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I'm not going to say because of
the gap between the recording,

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but because of the gap between
the recording, you guys my

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microphone.
And so I watched I watched it

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again.
And by watched, I mean, I

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fast-forwarded through the puck
stuff wife is it because I was

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like, I don't I don't need this
but I watched the rest of it and

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I guess not it's not a bad
episode.

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All in all And yeah, the music,
some of the music, real fucking

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good man, have not going to say.
Like I don't have issues still

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like no, cohesion to the story.
Like the story is one of the

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better stories and yet it's
still a very pen store fee

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overall structure rolling.
Mmm, I mean II like the

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Santana's.
Yeah.

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Just because, I don't know.
I'm always going to be drawn to,

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like, queer storylines of any
flavor and the whole like

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unwilling.
Audi, yeah.

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Herds sorry, yeah, I don't know
everything out of her, that way

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I do, right?
In this sense, it up, it goes

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over multiple like, episodes,
two sets up the reminder?

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Yeah, yeah, it does.
Which I feel like is because

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they just didn't care enough to
have an entire episode about

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Santana.
But I also think works better in

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terms of telling her story.
It's sort of like Burt Hummel

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syndrome where like the things
they care less about that.

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They don't put as much time
into.

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Don't get.
Right, right.

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I mean, I did I did like the
continuation of fin not being

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the, the Savior that I think he
started out trying to be, it's

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much more.
Like, like I fins from here.

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Yeah.
Like fins, really kind of a dick

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in these.
These sets of episodes between

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how he treats Anna like no one
deserves to be outed, but at the

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same time, Santana has been a
bitch to him.

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But they have a complicated
relationship and she's also just

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kind of mean to people in
general and then his treatment

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of Blaine at the same time like
in these couple episodes here,

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he really falls into not a good
not a bad character but like not

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a good guy and I appreciate that
because it's something That

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feels kind of real that.
And it's tied into like him, not

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feeling good, enough for college
for football, like, yeah, yeah,

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storyline is actually, I don't
remember how it ends but is

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right now like one of the longer
running actual character arcs

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season.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
But and I do think it calls back

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to like how he treated Kurt in
the first season, which almost a

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troubling trend of like Finn has
issues with queer characters a

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little.
Yeah, but I I don't think they

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meant that.
I just think that like fins the

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male leads so if it's not an
attractive woman that he can

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date, then it's someone he can
bind with.

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Yeah.
What actually have because they

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kind of like I was, it would
actually have been interesting

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if there was a main character
who was struggling with the

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acceptance of other sexualities,
But I don't think they were

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going to make their male lead
homophobe, you know?

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But he does you're right instead
it just like and I because I

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really don't think that that's
what they meant to do but

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between the fact that the three
characters who treats worst are.

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Yeah oh yeah, like three hours.
Brittany's by but Santana's

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right just lesbian right?
I think it depends on what

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Simpson your watch History.
Well, she seemed self-identifies

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as a librarian.
She does now, yeah?

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That's what counts.
Yeah.

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Wasn't there like an Ian Brennan
comment or something?

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One of them was like, who told
Naya Rivera like?

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Oh, Santana is a lesbian now,
just straight up at the

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beginning of the season.
Looks like this is your

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character now, good luck.
Well, I mean that's how it

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really happened.
I mean, they did it on accident

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because we know there were no
lesbians in the writers room,

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but that is kind of a very
authentic.

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Lesbian experience to be,
forcing yourself to have

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performative relationships with
men because of compulsive

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heterosexuality.
And then, you know, realizing

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that actually, I never felt
anything the whole time and I'm

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a lesbian like, yeah, that
definitely happens.

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And it also like not, To get
like personal, but I can almost

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kind of relate to the like
slightly.

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I don't know you're not
emotionally attached to guys.

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So right?
Sex with them is a little bit

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easier.
So you have some of that in a

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weird like denial.
Like, well, look, I can do this

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clearly.
I'm not a lesbian, there's this

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really great Google doc that
someone put together that's

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called.
The.

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Am I a lesbian Master post?
I think it's a must read for

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anyone.
I really do because it talked

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about all the different like, Of
course, you know, everyone's

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experience is different, but
outline some of the ones that

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would lead you to question.
Like, if you're a lesbian or

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not, and that's definitely one
of them is, like, you have a lot

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of casual sex or it's like you
have a lot of, you know, very

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like deep, love relationships,
but you're just like a Serial

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dater.
Like, they're, I don't know.

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There's a lot of different
interesting things.

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Yeah.
I mean, it would it would kind

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of work into how she just kind
of snatched fin up, because he

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was available and because it
hurt someone else not, because

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she really felt anything for
him. yeah, I mean, I think it's

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I don't know hard to, like,
point out any guys in animals

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with, she would have had, like,
genuine feelings.

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Yeah.
But I remember watching this,

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nine years ago and not
understanding any of that and

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just kind of be like one, right?
Like that may have just been

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2000 at night.
It was a different world back

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then.
I very much dislike thin and I

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watching it like the second, I
don't know, this is probably my

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third or fourth re-watch just
because I re-watched it Often

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because you hate yourself season
1 through 3.

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I watched I re-watched a lot
after that I stopped riwa.

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Hmm oh yeah I should say I don't
read much 45 at all.

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But yeah, I just really really
dislike Finn and it was a

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combination of using slurs for
to Kurt and generally not like

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handling that well and the same
with Santana and I like I'm not

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even say it's unrealistic for.
Was he supposed to be like 70

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year?
But a 17 year old boy, I still

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would prefer if like they
actually Dealt with that more.

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But like I said, I don't think
they were intending on

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portraying him as homophobic.
So, yeah, I'm not surprised that

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there's more clarity on that.
He certainly doesn't have to

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reckon with anything.
I think they not really to be

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like, oh, well blame, you know,
it's just the lead singer of the

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Warblers and fins lead, singer
of new directions, which is but

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true somehow, and it's like and
never the twain shall meet.

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So I think that's what they're
trying to go.

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It they never really faced off
about like they face off about

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the music but it's more like
about control of the group

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really?
And it's neither one of them in

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season 2.
I don't know.

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Like Blaine definitely wasn't in
control of the Warblers.

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They had all fucking Council and
then he wasn't on the council

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and then then was not in charge
of the new directions like him

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versus Rachel.
Like he never wanted to sit down

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songs or like you know, like he
was just the one who's like, Oh

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yeah, guys, we're gonna do it
teamwork.

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You know, and Blaine was just
The Soloist.

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So like why would they they butt
heads like that really doesn't

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make sense.
It doesn't.

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There were a couple episodes.
I think where I like I always

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say like I think as if we
haven't a chance. / watch them.

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But this is what time works.
Like there were times when

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Schuster would be like Finn you
got a, you're the cheerleader

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and you got to step up and help
lead this club, but it would be

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for like one song.
But that's the thing is okay.

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And it's not leader in ship, but
Blaine was just The Soloist.

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He was not the Or ya know, I
don't know what Great Smoke.

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He wasn't.
I mean, blind with the pretty

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voice that did what they told
him to.

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He's the to step in the front.
Yeah, they put him up there

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because he was short, so that
they could line people up behind

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him and they could all be seen,
you know, have Riser get a good

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scratch.
Yeah.

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If you don't have risers in the
adult, in the common room, you

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got to make, do he's put that
pretty face upfront.

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Junior.
Senior plan.

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Yeah, the I did appreciate their
I mean we're going to get to the

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episode where Finn and Blaine
confront each other.

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Over nothing.
I think it would have been nice

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and I am just not remembering
the upcoming episodes that well,

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but to see a little more from
Blaine coming back at Finn

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because right now it's just
finding a dick to someone

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smaller than him.
Who's just like yeah, that's

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okay.
I'm fine with that.

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They're not really, really
battling anything out.

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It just it just adds to fin
looking like a jackass when

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blight like so.
We're Finn is like I think we

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should give a solo to the new
guy and he gives it to Rory over

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playing Ted.
Like literally visually

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overplayed second appointment.
Why does it yeah, making a point

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and planes just like, okay I
mean you can see it in his eyes

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that was like I'm not gonna, I'm
not gonna rise to this bait but

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I think it could have been fun.
If there was a little more

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competition.
Although I'm then maybe I would

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have hated that to wonder if I
couldn't do that.

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Just because like Darren and
Corey stand up there, like, they

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had a mental image of them doing
like the Dirty Dancing or he

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just holds blade up. because it
That's tough.

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That's our like Woulda Coulda
Shoulda.

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Ooh well obviously oh my God
that's the best.

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That's how they work out.
Their differences through the

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power of dance Wayne and his
watermelon.

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So funny that that's even a
convo.

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He was like, I say we give those
solo to a new guy because that's

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not a saw.
The ultimately the mash-up does

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not have Just one soloist.
A bunch of different people,

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celebrate different person.
There's nothing like yeah I hate

449
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,200
when he does that stuff that
they touches such as royally

450
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,700
pissed.
Like what were your song people

451
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:24,600
and your script people not
talking to each other like no

452
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600
obviously not.
I mean didn't pick a song where

453
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,700
it just had one.
So Louis throughout the song of

454
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,500
this which is then also like
what if he already had that song

455
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:37,200
in my Mind.
And he was like, I'm going to

456
00:28:37,208 --> 00:28:40,000
give this solo to the new guy.
So even if he had given it to

457
00:28:40,008 --> 00:28:43,300
play in there is no solo.
Right?

458
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:44,500
It's still.
It's just a solo.

459
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:48,400
It's not the solo.
Yeah, it's just a line.

460
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Oh my God.
That's from the back fucking

461
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,500
thin.
I do think it's and it's an

462
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,500
interesting part of ugly though
because you've got like the

463
00:28:59,508 --> 00:29:03,500
tension between the two Glee
clubs and between like friends

464
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,600
and you know, that are like
split between the two.

465
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:09,400
To Glee clubs and then you have
the tension within the new

466
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,500
directions.
It's brewing and just It's

467
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:14,800
upsetting because it seems like
it should be leading up to

468
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,600
trouble tones like winning.
Yeah, it does.

469
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,300
No.
It's just another opportunity

470
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:25,400
for new directions to like
overcome all obstacles to win.

471
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:30,900
You fucking know you're right.
It definitely does feel like

472
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:35,700
this tension building as you
said and I'm just stealing

473
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,700
should have lead up to a real
consequence for them and they

474
00:29:39,708 --> 00:29:43,000
could have like learn from it
and that's what it just did.

475
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,800
It would have been very
satisfying after the whole West

476
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Side Story thing, if Mercedes
wow, like the wind on Rachel.

477
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,800
Been so nice that move made way
more sense in the storyline.

478
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,300
I think I am however, going to
assume from this point on that,

479
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:05,100
everything that would have been
not quite a win for Rachel was

480
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:08,900
just like struck down probably,
you know, we could probably read

481
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:12,500
that into viewing this like
that's probably in the text so

482
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:17,300
special note at was it's texting
well like my partner.

483
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,900
Now we're talking about the Lea
Michele accusations and she was

484
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:21,900
like, I don't know.
Like doesn't she just seemed

485
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:23,600
like Just like a stupid little
girl.

486
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
You could just like not pay any
attention to like it just seems

487
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,300
Petty and I'm like you're right.
It is but Lea Michele was like

488
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:33,100
the it girl then especially on
that set like she was like Ryan

489
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,300
Murphy special little girl, you
know, like she was like a direct

490
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,000
map to him basically and think
of all these people who've

491
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,000
stayed silent for so long year
later because they're scared of

492
00:30:43,008 --> 00:30:44,800
her.
And it's just now that like

493
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,500
people have started to knock her
down a peg that they feel safe

494
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:49,400
saying anything like that's
crazy.

495
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,300
Imagine, being on that set every
day.

496
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,100
I think if Ryan Murphy wasn't
the showrunner, like if she was

497
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,000
pulling this shit on a different
show, it wouldn't have gone the

498
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
same way.
I think it's because he for some

499
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:09,600
reason had her on a pedestal
that then gave her the authority

500
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,300
by proxy to be and the security
like the Safety and Security to

501
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:17,300
not get in trouble and maybe it
also.

502
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:22,700
Yeah, it makes me like Wonder I
mean, obviously, Ryan Murphy has

503
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:26,700
other pets besides Julia.
I don't think Darren is the same

504
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:30,100
type of person, Leah is, but it
makes me wonder if people had

505
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,500
the same egg shells around Aaron
on.

506
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,100
Like Glee said he would do, I
would say like, especially by

507
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:41,300
the like Fifth Season.
It was clear that that Blaine

508
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:43,700
was getting more than his share
of right Rose.

509
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:48,600
But I don't know, it's Ryan
Murphy having like his pet.

510
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,700
Favorites is just like a
constant thing.

511
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,600
Everyone knows about And Leah
was just the one that would

512
00:31:53,608 --> 00:31:55,500
have.
Yeah, it's hard to know because

513
00:31:55,500 --> 00:32:00,300
like she fell off of his his
gravy train.

514
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600
Like, she hasn't been in his
latest show.

515
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,700
He was scream Queens for to
experience tizen to.

516
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:14,700
But, like, Darren's been in half
of the Murphy shows and he got

517
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:18,700
his own one.
So if, if being Murphy's number

518
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:25,100
one offers you any sort of
protection from mudslinging

519
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,400
then, Darren's probably still
under that umbrella.

520
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,500
I see what you mean.
Does that make sense?

521
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:38,100
Also, while we're talking about,
like, only semi-related things

522
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:48,500
to do, that's the real title.
The body is related, but I don't

523
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:53,400
know Darren and Lea touring
together just makes me wonder is

524
00:32:53,400 --> 00:33:00,800
like dude.
During at least new song.

525
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,300
Yeah, the stories that came out
was that Chris had invited

526
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,800
someone to sit with lunch and he
mentioned Darren is being

527
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,900
someone sitting at the lunch
table and then Lea Michele came

528
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:14,300
over and made that person move.
So I mean, yeah, at least one

529
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:18,000
anecdote of, you know,
witnessing her nastiness

530
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,700
firsthand and presumably not
doing anything about it.

531
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:23,900
Uh-huh.
Well, he was too preoccupied

532
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:30,000
with lunch with Chris mean, we,
we understand, as, you know, but

533
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,600
see that's so I'd actually
didn't even think really about

534
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,600
what that to or must have been
like, because I was not going to

535
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,800
be involved, there was not
wholly, are and Overstreet,

536
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,800
whatever their ship name was,
they tried so hard to make that

537
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,000
a thing.
And no one gave a shit and care

538
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,600
but they were really all kind of
like feed off each others.

539
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,100
Fame for a fifth Manson.
Well, I mean I mean, I guess

540
00:33:53,100 --> 00:34:00,500
speaking of infighting and
things being thrown, I don't

541
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:06,300
make Segways the DodgeBall.
Yeah, seemed that that's

542
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,300
definitely a good way for
teenagers to work out aggression

543
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,199
is to throw stuff at each other?
All right.

544
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,100
I did have some very like strong
Nostalgia at the sidewalk like

545
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:23,699
rolled around because I don't
like nothing.

546
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,500
I mean, did your school's do the
thing where at the end like

547
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,600
somebody would end up getting
all the ball slam, but them in

548
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,900
the middle of core, don't know.
Mine did.

549
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,900
Yeah, it was literally just like
that.

550
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,800
I don't like the coaches would
just stand there and watch.

551
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,800
We're looking with Soldier or
trauma.

552
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,900
Yeah, I feel like we probably
have to give like, you know,

553
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:48,800
high fives all around at the end
of the game, kind of a thing.

554
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,300
It's the Pacific Northwest.
I put your Heavies dodgeball

555
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:56,800
game is where like people were
not gently throwing, oh no.

556
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,500
Also, I did usually lasts until
the end because and the back I

557
00:35:02,508 --> 00:35:05,400
was kind of envisioning.
Yeah, stand in the back, just

558
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,500
made it even worse.
Yep, I stood the back it ended

559
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:12,100
up being like a game of me
trying to get tagged along with

560
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:13,800
at the beginning.
Just get in that first.

561
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,400
Hail of them.
Just feel like, oh no, I gotta

562
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:23,500
sit down desperately running.
I definitely, I definitely like,

563
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,200
would just say, oh, I am out
now.

564
00:35:27,300 --> 00:35:28,900
I got ya.
I'm sorry.

565
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,200
Oh, I wish I could catch one and
get back in there.

566
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:39,900
And then I wonder like other
countries in elementary school,

567
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:42,900
middle school, high school like
are you guys encouraged to throw

568
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,300
solid objects that your fellow
students or is that just an

569
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:48,500
American?
Just like the found that self.

570
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,400
Is it even an American thing
anymore?

571
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,600
No I think dogs balls been axed.
Thank God.

572
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,000
We this is this is super
unrelated.

573
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,400
My elementary school.
We had bow and arrow.

574
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,700
I did that in Middle School.
Oh wow.

575
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,600
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, did you would not mind?

576
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,800
It was like they put the the
targets up on like, haystacks.

577
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,500
And you could shoot an arrow
it's like rubber tipped.

578
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,600
I'm sure those are like we ought
to be very careful.

579
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,700
I like to stay behind a line,
you know, while everyone was

580
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,100
shooting and then they'd let
everybody go and retrieve the

581
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:28,000
same time.
Yeah, we had Bolin to, which was

582
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,200
fun because we got to be bussed
to the bowling alley across

583
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,700
town.
Goodbye snacks.

584
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,500
I'm sorry fancy.
I mean we didn't perform

585
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:42,900
choreographed numbers while we
did this but I can see maybe you

586
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:45,700
do.
We would have had as cool of a

587
00:36:45,707 --> 00:36:47,400
song as they do in the
DodgeBall.

588
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,500
Seen the one way, or another Hit
Me With Your Best Shot, it's so

589
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:54,800
good.
See I thought this was a time

590
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,100
where the song being on the nose
looks really good.

591
00:36:57,100 --> 00:37:01,700
Now you're right, it's cute.
Like all right, just just do

592
00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:02,600
that.
That's fine.

593
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:06,100
Let's plug lead.
I think of I can complain about

594
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,200
it but it's not like they're
going to stop doing it.

595
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,500
Mm.
Oh no, I love Darren short

596
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:16,200
shorts.
Well, most of the other guys are

597
00:37:16,207 --> 00:37:18,800
in basketball shorts.
But yeah, that was actually my

598
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,000
other thought was watching.
It was like those will not be

599
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,700
school regulation shorts for
that game rules there and it

600
00:37:24,707 --> 00:37:27,700
counts for you too because in
many examples of Darren wearing

601
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,200
the short shorts for some
reason, even when other people

602
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,500
aren't he would have had to put
on like a shirt of she's a mess.

603
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:38,100
I'm imagining Brian Murphy
walking into costuming, holding

604
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:41,900
the shorts, being like they're
enjoying some straight-up,

605
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:48,600
Sophie shorts like, Maybe they
were just hits my new baby.

606
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:53,000
I don't want to judge it.
Just think that maybe that's how

607
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,400
he probably Ryan Murphy's that
was implied, but I think that

608
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:03,200
the DodgeBall seen up until up
until the violent end.

609
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,200
Is it just a fun thing like the
way that it's shot?

610
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,900
Like it it makes me it's
reminiscent of like the mattress

611
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,600
commercial in the first season
when I would like the slow

612
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,400
motion in the jumping and the
like Yeah, it's just, it's an

613
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,400
entertaining scene.
It's very curious number in

614
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,200
that.
There's no traditional

615
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,200
choreography and our mandate was
to just do a bunch of crazy

616
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,400
stuff.
It was Glee doing like, what

617
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,700
Glee did best.
It very well on ironic way you

618
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,500
like it actually.
They look like they're having

619
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:35,700
fun.
Although there were a few

620
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:40,000
injuries involved, I don't, did
you watch?

621
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,100
So there's a the behind the
scenes for this one.

622
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:46,400
There's like a two, three.
A video of like behind the

623
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,600
scenes filming of the DodgeBall
scene and I had forgotten that

624
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:54,600
Kevin and his his wheelchair
bashed into Darren's knee.

625
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,400
Oh, yeah, a few injuries going
around.

626
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,500
That's what that that happens.
So yeah, but their schedule of

627
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,000
like learning choreography
surprised.

628
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200
There's not more.
Yeah, I liked it.

629
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,600
I thought it was fun.
No.

630
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,100
Yeah I love that scene.
It was interesting though

631
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:15,400
because it's like okay so they
All the whole trouble tones team

632
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,800
like hits Rory with balls of the
end, right?

633
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,200
Yes, Santana.
Hits him in the face and makes

634
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,700
him bleed, and so it's Santana's
fault somehow.

635
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:35,500
Hi.
Yeah, cuz she was it because

636
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:39,900
they have history and she's been
calling him Manatee tits for

637
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:42,300
that's true.
And she forget what her in

638
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:47,600
school is arising.
Yeah, I know, but I love that.

639
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,800
Kurt defends.
Rory coach to such a great

640
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,100
character.
I don't understand why people

641
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:57,400
hate her.
So, okay, so this leads in this

642
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,200
dovetails.
If you will into a problem with

643
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,500
his student council president
campaign is that he has the

644
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:12,600
perfect thing to run on, he has
the perfect platform of bullying

645
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,600
where he's He's been bullied.
He had the whole fucking thing

646
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,600
with karofsky.
He knows what happens in the

647
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,100
school, but his platform at the
time is obesity.

648
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,500
Hmm like why why was he ever
running on tater tots in the

649
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:34,100
cafeteria and not bullying.
When that's personal it?

650
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:38,700
Affects I'm assuming half at
least half of the school.

651
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:45,600
Like why did it take a new kid
big-headed you know, with a

652
00:40:45,607 --> 00:40:47,800
dodgeball to be like, you know
what?

653
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:49,600
That's right.
Bullying is bad.

654
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Even though I've experienced it
for the last three years at the

655
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,800
school myself, And lights.
Yeah, these are implied to be

656
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,400
part of like a very great.
Yeah and I know no one's been

657
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,900
slushy didn't like six episodes
but it happened frequently but

658
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,800
because it happened to the new
guy.

659
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,800
Yeah.
That I don't know.

660
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,200
Like why wasn't bullying your
campaign.

661
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,700
The entire time.
My head Canon.

662
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:18,300
Is that Kurt?
Just blacked all that stuff out.

663
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,800
It's like, I can't.
You took a couple Toppers like

664
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,800
memory like that.
So Enough.

665
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,800
So, during an out, they called
the debate.

666
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400
There was no debating happening,
they were just giving speeches,

667
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:36,600
right?
So during and I, this was one of

668
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:41,700
those Glee editing things where
it was, there was a mash-up

669
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,500
mash-off and then the student
council president speech and

670
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:48,500
then back to the mash-off like
what is a day look like, from

671
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:51,800
McKinley.
How many days have passed?

672
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,700
Did they like flipped a coin and
said, okay, the new directions

673
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,600
are going first.
The immediately perform.

674
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,000
But then we go from alpha Jake
after an outfit change, but then

675
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,100
there's the student council
president thing and that the

676
00:42:09,107 --> 00:42:10,900
whole week, like, what the fuck
happened here?

677
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:15,400
Not that it matters.
It's more of a just It's Glee

678
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,600
and maybe they did this
purposefully but it never felt

679
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:24,700
time didn't feel real in the
show right till they hit a

680
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:28,500
themed holiday episode.
You were kind of like where is

681
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,700
it September yet?
I know some TV shows.

682
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:35,900
Do this to make the episodes
timely for reruns, where you're

683
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:39,100
never, you can just throw any
episode on and you don't have to

684
00:42:39,107 --> 00:42:43,200
be like, oh well it's when so,
the time doesn't matter.

685
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,100
Sure.
But, but when there's a school

686
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:49,600
year, involved and thing when is
sectionals, we don't know when

687
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,400
is national that just shows the
fuck up.

688
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,500
Even though they hadn't Baptist
sectionals, right?

689
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:56,700
Like, I don't know.
The time in Glee, just always

690
00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:00,600
felt like a, oh, hey, this
episode's gonna are around

691
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,000
Christmas.
Let's make it a Christmas

692
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,600
episode.
Why not?

693
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,700
I mean, you know what, you get
when you start fucking with the

694
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:12,000
timelines, you can blame that
didn't happen.

695
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,200
I don't be more specific
Berenstein spelled with an e and

696
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,100
there's no Junior button.
Really?

697
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,500
It was all about selling those
records and we know it and it

698
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,600
was, was it really?
Really was.

699
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:31,500
Yeah.
Anyway, so in in the student

700
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:39,800
council president debate / talk
off, Rachel withdraws her

701
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:43,000
candidacy and pledges her
support to Kurt.

702
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:48,000
I think we're supposed to feel
like this is a good move, but

703
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,000
she's doing it a bit out of pity
because she's had a conversation

704
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,900
with Shelby.
Her mother to get her to sign a

705
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:59,500
letter of recommendation for
nyada.

706
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,600
That thing that's also happening
that Rachel wrote that riches

707
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,500
upon herself.
Yeah.

708
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,500
Uh-huh.
Yes.

709
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,200
And Shelby told her and I guess
reminded the audience that

710
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,500
Rachel has been in every fucking
club that we've never seen her

711
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,200
in.
It's a bad time and do it right?

712
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:21,200
And doesn't know what is funny.
His her actual resume, or like

713
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,700
like whatever she handed, the
Shelby didn't say anything.

714
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,800
About an extracurricular,
besides Ali your ass.

715
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,300
You're just supposed to remember
that in her freshman year, she

716
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:33,000
was in actually every Club
because that whole yearbook

717
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,300
thing.
But now I guess she feels bad

718
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:40,800
for Kurt who doesn't have all of
that shit on his transcript and

719
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,900
decides to just hand over her
voters?

720
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,500
I don't know, it's one of those
had Any, right, that's funny.

721
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,100
It's one of those.
It's one of those moves that

722
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:57,300
when someone does it and either
you're supposed to feel like,

723
00:44:57,300 --> 00:45:00,700
oh, that was really nice of her.
But all you, all I really felt

724
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:04,000
was like God.
You're so, so just like, you

725
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,000
just want to do this for Kudos
and brownie points and I know

726
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,300
it.
I have her gun with you in New

727
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:10,500
York.
Like that.

728
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,700
Yeah.
You're just trying to get your

729
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,800
gay friend bag so that you have
someone to help you out on like,

730
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,600
yeah.
Hey, chief.

731
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:23,800
You want a like human-shaped
security blanket and it's good

732
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,500
friend this whole time.
She's like, I'm gonna give up

733
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:30,300
this for you assuming, I guess
that she was going to win in the

734
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:31,900
first place.
Yeah.

735
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,100
I can already do.
Like this is going to be much

736
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,900
much harder for me to sympathize
with Rachel.

737
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:44,200
Yeah.
Did I did that?

738
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,000
My microwave but doesn't help.
It doesn't.

739
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,100
It's worth watching it back
later.

740
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:55,300
Being older and yes being older
and like remembering those

741
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:58,000
people in real life who were
like I'm doing this for you like

742
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,100
you're not right doing it and
then you close to the situation

743
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,400
and maybe believing them like oh
yeah.

744
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,700
Well and just before that scene
in the DodgeBall scene and I

745
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:11,100
wrote it down because I thought
it was important Curt says well

746
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,100
maybe you should have thought of
that before you walked All over

747
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:15,800
me and you're borderline
sociopathic, climb to the top.

748
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,600
And then, how many days passed
before?

749
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,400
He's like, all right, I guess
I'm your friend again at just

750
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,300
like their back and forth, non
friendship really annoys me.

751
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:28,000
And it's like we talked a lot
earlier on the podcast about the

752
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,200
potential, Rachel had to be like
a character we like to was

753
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,000
career-driven.
And like maybe she was a dick to

754
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,800
other people, but she knew what
she wanted.

755
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,700
It haven't listened to it.
Uh, pisode go back and listen to

756
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:39,900
it.
That's right.

757
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:42,400
Oh yeah.
Like this season, like it.

758
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:44,600
Is sort of the death knell of
that.

759
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,400
Yeah.
Like the, the like bits of that

760
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200
carrot, right?
Like, Rachel can say 10 min

761
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,200
things and then say, one semi
nice thing and everybody just

762
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,500
forgets and forgives.
Like, she's not powerful enough

763
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:59,300
of a character for that, like,
if she was Quinn, who's like,

764
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,200
Queen of the school Quinn are in
like, you know, and you're like,

765
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,500
oh my God, thank you for like
looking favorably upon me.

766
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:09,700
But like, this is Rachel who
everybody makes fun of, and

767
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:14,200
nobody really likes Reddit.
Supposed to be really popular.

768
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,100
According to what the show's is.
Yeah, no, yeah, not.

769
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:25,200
That exactly is definitely
written as unpopular unliked and

770
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:30,100
lower level in the hierarchy and
yet like a big deal but she's

771
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:34,300
dating thin and straight.
Yeah hmm not that the football

772
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:38,500
team is very light either.
You know like Jesus.

773
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:45,600
The cheerleaders that all end up
in Glee, aren't some of the

774
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,700
troubles on supposed to be if
y'all the backup about how this

775
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:53,200
is the thing you do that gets,
you liked easy to make fun of

776
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,500
except also there's really
popular people do it to always

777
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:57,300
Wiggly.
It depends on the episode in the

778
00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:00,400
day in the position of the Moon.
Whether everybody loves the Glee

779
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,400
club or everybody hate, the Glee
Club.

780
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:08,000
Yeah, ridiculous.
And it's not like it's not like

781
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,600
Shelby has any standing where if
they were like?

782
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,800
Yeah.
But it's but it's Shelby's choir

783
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,700
and she's cool.
Like maybe maybe Holly Holliday

784
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,400
if Holly?
Yeah they established her as a

785
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,400
cool teacher popular.
My life do.

786
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Um no I suppose we should
actually talk about the mash-up

787
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,100
songs.
Yeah I was about to say Say I

788
00:48:36,107 --> 00:48:40,200
mean can't let the song can't
let them go obviously.

789
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,100
Let's get new directions out of
the way.

790
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,900
They're doing a Hall and Oates
mesh up because Holly notes

791
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:51,600
never broke up Ali.
You how many other bands, never

792
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,700
broke?
Yeah.

793
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,300
That one I think that was just
to get Darren's hair natural and

794
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:02,800
to put them in fake mustaches,
right?

795
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:09,200
That sounds like exactly with
Adama process was Yeah, I didn't

796
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,900
really like the mash-up know
you're not a fan of that one?

797
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:16,900
Yeah I think also in the face of
rumor, has it someone like you

798
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:17,800
it.
Really.

799
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:20,600
How are you?
Yeah.

800
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,000
It's so good.
It's so well shot.

801
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,700
It is so well.
Performed.

802
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,100
The choreography is great.
Their dresses are slamming.

803
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,900
The drama of the lighting.
Yeah, I'm a good actress.

804
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,700
I know there are a lot of like,
people don't like her too, but

805
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:23,000
like she can convey emotion
through.

806
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,700
She really can't read those
close-ups and like her little,

807
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:28,100
it looks at threatening some
actors.

808
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:32,300
Yeah, some of the actors on the
show, struggle a little bit with

809
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,000
Cory.
Cory, awesome.

810
00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:41,300
I feel very fine towards him but
now he is not that good at, you

811
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:42,700
know, the emotional scenes.
Yeah.

812
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:46,300
But yeah, and I could kill it
and just if you're gonna have so

813
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:50,900
Louis and Amber and Nia, exactly
like new directions cannot hold

814
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:53,900
a candle to them.
I mean the trouble tones just

815
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,100
took the best singers and were
like, we're out.

816
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,900
Why wouldn't they?
Why wouldn't they win?

817
00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:02,400
Yeah, thing about the best
dancers to cheerleaders and they

818
00:51:02,408 --> 00:51:05,100
clearly seem to have a better
budget for dresses.

819
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,400
Yes, I know.
And it's not like those women

820
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,100
aren't strong enough.
If they want to do partner

821
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,600
moves, right?
They could dance together.

822
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,700
It's not like they're they all
carry that they could do

823
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:20,200
tumbling like, shoot, right?
Yeah, that they don't, they

824
00:51:20,207 --> 00:51:22,200
don't need Harry.
They've got the others.

825
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,200
They didn't pick a winner.
Did they have them at?

826
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,700
I guess that wasn't the point of
the match off, I know.

827
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,900
But obviously there was one of
Wonder right.

828
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:34,000
But clearly there was only maybe
that's what the new directions.

829
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,900
Didn't try too hard.
They weren't going to pick a

830
00:51:36,908 --> 00:51:39,400
winner.
So we just saying Hall note.

831
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,100
Do you know this is such a
random-ass thought that I just

832
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:44,200
had and I don't know why I've
never thought of this before,

833
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,900
but I think it would have been
really cute if you'd had the

834
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,800
characters.
Ever like humming the songs that

835
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,500
they're practicing as they're
just like walking around or like

836
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:02,300
if like to me later here Kurt
just humming like rumor has it

837
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:05,000
to himself just kind of like
because they watch the whole

838
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,500
performance and they were
clearly interested in it would

839
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:09,600
have been fun to like.
Yeah.

840
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,000
We everyone's performing these
songs and everyone's working

841
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,600
really hard and it's really
good.

842
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:16,300
Yeah.
I've been like nice, Woody

843
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:22,600
almost we're just like, If we
had ever seen them actually

844
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,500
practicing songs more than like
once in the whole series.

845
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:31,400
Yeah, I mean, I guess at least
the the trouble tones we see the

846
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,200
meeting You know, right but we
were never not just saying

847
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,500
random assignments of the week.
Yeah.

848
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:41,900
Like the new directions don't
have to practice so clearly

849
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:44,300
we're not going to watch the
trouble tones practice but I was

850
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,700
I was it was nice to see them
having post class time like yes

851
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:51,300
this takes out part of their
day.

852
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,500
Yeah but it wasn't enough.
I wish I was more of them.

853
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:57,100
It's funny.
You're a fan.

854
00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:01,200
I think it's a thing that I
think creators, don't really

855
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,000
understand.
During a show, is that oddly

856
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,700
enough.
Something a lot of fans really

857
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:12,000
want to see, are the, the
minutiae, and like the

858
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,900
day-to-day lives of their
characters and not so much, the,

859
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:23,300
the huge plot points, right plot
Arc has Rises and falls and like

860
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,300
the story that, you know, but at
the seven-point storyline, like,

861
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:29,500
whatever.
But if someone loves a

862
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:33,400
character, and if your job as a
writer, is to make your Fans and

863
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,900
your audience, love a character,
whether they're a good person or

864
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:40,800
a bad person, like, you, just
you love them and you're

865
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,800
interested in them.
Then you want to see that, like,

866
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:48,200
bullshit of them, folding, their
laundry, or going grocery

867
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,600
shopping.
It's all the stuff that we end

868
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,900
up writing and fixed because
it's not in the show.

869
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,500
There's a reason that because of
the layers scene is like one of

870
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:59,700
the best because it's enduring,
because it's small and quiet

871
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,400
intimate, and it scares.
Ya, this Is like bringing

872
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,800
another fandom into it but I
know it's interesting for me

873
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:13,500
being in like an RPF fandom
besides this where they are very

874
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:18,200
self-aware to the extent that
like one day out of the Year,

875
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,900
Dan and Phil would for like they
did six or seven of these with

876
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:25,700
literally just film one day in
their life and that was like an

877
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,600
event everyone.
All year long forward to the day

878
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,400
in the life video, Which
literally just been making

879
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,300
breakfast and watching anime
together, then like doing the

880
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:39,100
grocery and get it.
Like they were like we will give

881
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:42,200
you one day of domestics, be a
year but then like the rest of

882
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,800
their content was just like they
knew that the bantering between

883
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000
themselves was what people
wanted it.

884
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,000
So they gave like He's not that
different in terms of what an

885
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,900
audience wants out of them from
a TV show.

886
00:54:55,900 --> 00:55:00,300
Yeah.
So yeah that that just would

887
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,400
have been very nice if someone
on like big Lee said, or any set

888
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,300
like that would realize that
when I watch The X-Files like

889
00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:08,900
what I want?
Or the two minutes of Mulder and

890
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:10,400
Scully talking at the end.
Yeah.

891
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:13,100
Like, all right, go hunt, your
aliens blah, blah, blah.

892
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,700
But like give me the office
singing where their feet are up

893
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:19,200
on the desk.
And they're eating ice cream

894
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,300
like nonfat tofutti, rice
dreamsicles.

895
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:25,800
Like that's, that's what I'm
here for.

896
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:29,300
Yeah, I'm glad just always
wanted the big drama it did.

897
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Yeah.
Dangerous suggest you got to be

898
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,500
breaking up and making them
destroying lives or ya can't

899
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:38,800
just be can't just be quiet and
intimate.

900
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,900
Just gotta, you know, like there
are even moments and easily wear

901
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:47,100
it like felt like this was
supposed to be us getting what

902
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:49,900
we wanted. but like, I ended up
resenting them and thinking of a

903
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:54,700
specific The like dance number
in.

904
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:58,500
The New York say that dance
number and Glee.

905
00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:03,200
Oh that that that because he's
fat.

906
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,700
Yeah.
So nice to see all of those

907
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:10,100
things like shot and film, but
I'm like in the context like a

908
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:14,200
ninja know it, so like faint,
yeah, thanks because give it to

909
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,500
us, could be happy.
This is this is not what I

910
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:20,100
wanted.
Yeah, I wasn't keeping the

911
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:25,200
bitter but not like this.
Yes.

912
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,900
To see Blaine getting out of bed
but not with gel in his hair.

913
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,200
Come on, that one felt personal,
I'm not even alive.

914
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,900
I think that one was personal,
that one fell person, you know,

915
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:42,600
like yeah, he's gonna get out of
bed in the morning and he's

916
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:43,900
still going to have gel in his
hair.

917
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:46,200
Like, you know, what Murphy,
that one was directed at me, and

918
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,800
I don't care for it hurts to
this day.

919
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,900
There's even hurt, I'm angry,
You Know, Glee would be poking

920
00:56:56,900 --> 00:57:00,000
fun at itself and other times
Glee would just like, not think

921
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,000
about shit like that.
Like somebody already put the

922
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,700
gel and Blaine's hair for the
day.

923
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,600
Yeah.
For they were actually, oh, you

924
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:13,700
know what?
Take us two hours to do so I

925
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:16,000
wouldn't be surprised if his
hair in the Hall & Oates.

926
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,300
Number was like a wig, like
they're straight up like, you

927
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:21,100
know what?
This feuding schedules too tight

928
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:23,700
today, This is where the wig for
the number.

929
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,200
I'm sorry, we can't until the
hair.

930
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:32,100
I feel like I remember people
joking, that, it Darren's wasn't

931
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:34,600
a fake mustache.
He just grew it really fast.

932
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,000
Just like well units, that could
have happened.

933
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:42,400
Anyway, rumor has it the best
rumor.

934
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,100
Has it the best hands down?
Yeah, we're going to let people

935
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,500
vote on songs on Instagram, but
like come on.

936
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:50,600
If you pick anything else you're
wrong.

937
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,200
If Yeah, we're gonna personally
reply to everyone that pick

938
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,000
something else, just tell you
that you're wrong.

939
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:02,500
If you're looking for a personal
shout-out, we got one coming for

940
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:04,900
you.
Yeah.

941
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,200
Oh my God.
That's what Wesley there was.

942
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,700
That was, that was one of our
podcasts, voicing his opinion.

943
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:15,300
You know.
He has a wonderful cameo in the

944
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:18,000
Q&A episode.
Post it on our patreon.

945
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,300
So go be a patrons you can hear
what?

946
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,100
These super cute Cameo.
Yeah.

947
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
You want to hear one of our 12
pod?

948
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,100
Yeah.
If you would like an

949
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,700
introduction to each of our
podcasts, you can visit our

950
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:33,900
website, rocks, tacos, and
excellent.

951
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,200
Shout out.
Wow, I gotta learn how to do

952
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,000
this.
What?

953
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:44,000
Well, then we should probably
start wrapping this one up.

954
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Is there anything VY?
I mean, I may have to ask what

955
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,600
our favorite song was.
It's rumor has it someone like

956
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:56,100
you done done before we hit up
our indices and I have a note

957
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:59,000
from a loyal listener.
About the name of one of the

958
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,900
indices that we will address.
But are there any, any final,

959
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:09,500
comments, notes, thoughts,
critiques of this episode?

960
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,400
I have a final note.
This episode has one of my like

961
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,300
all-time favorite not claim
moments, which is when Brittany

962
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:25,200
things, stop the violence and
Santana, just like, yes, that

963
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,000
scene where they're standing up,
Hannah was cute.

964
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,500
You get there like nothing.
It's got a top plane, but if I'm

965
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,100
like, excluding clean moments,
that is like, one of my

966
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:37,400
favorite.
Just like small insignificant.

967
00:59:37,900 --> 00:59:40,400
Those are some of my favorite
Britney lines were.

968
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:43,500
So Said something earlier of
just like Rachel Berry still on

969
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:47,900
MySpace and thus unfit to lead.
Like perfect amazing.

970
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,700
I'm loving, like, falling in
love with Britt Anna.

971
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,600
Yes, we watch because I think I
was a little Bias at the time

972
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,000
and not as appreciative and in
the closet myself.

973
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000
So, I'm just really loving it.
It's great.

974
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:03,300
But, on the other hand, this
episode did not have enough

975
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:05,500
clean in it.
This is true.

976
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,300
This is true or are already
well, that does lead us to our

977
01:00:11,300 --> 01:00:20,300
indices and and the note comes
from Allison who I have two full

978
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:25,100
disclosure, former roommate,
Allison has been yelling.

979
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,300
NG at me and us that the Kevin
McHale scale should really just

980
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:38,100
be the Kevin mix scale so it is
now officially the Alice enters.

981
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:46,000
Kevin McHale like yeah I'll also
you're welcome Alison.

982
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:53,200
Say hi to pickle other pod cat.
Who is not currently here?

983
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,500
Don't worry pain.
What I was looking for honorary,

984
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:59,100
pod cat.
Well, so how is our Kevin McHale

985
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,100
today?
Not great zero.

986
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:06,900
I mean, I want to give him half
a point for interference.

987
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:12,100
Okay.
Is the Kevin scale, not the RT

988
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:13,500
scale.
This is true.

989
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:15,000
And you know what?
We don't know that he didn't do

990
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,300
it on purpose because Darren
wasn't like seriously injured.

991
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,700
It's funny great.
We'll just give him that point

992
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:26,500
five.
Are clean decks.

993
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,500
So this this episode does
include Kurt and Blaine looking

994
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:34,400
out of the window and the choir
room together.

995
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:37,800
I forgot about the theme.
I love that.

996
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,200
So that's like blade.
That's a very cute when Kurt

997
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,900
gives his speech.
Yes.

998
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:46,100
How is very proud?
Just a little hand clap.

999
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,400
It's just comparing those not a
clap I know.

1000
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:54,800
So I don't know.
Is that a three or four?

1001
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,700
Move really, really feeling it
here.

1002
01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:07,900
It's like three out of ten.
They didn't have any dialogue

1003
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:12,900
towards each other necessarily.
It was all it was more about the

1004
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:16,700
cameramen in the editors, the
letters didn't fuck about.

1005
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:18,300
I think in the 70s feel about
too.

1006
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,500
All right.
Yeah, this downgrading it.

1007
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:26,800
We have to show our displeasure
somehow once in the choir Road

1008
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:30,200
and one for the speech.
Okay?

1009
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:33,000
Great.
And we already have our coded

1010
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,200
Shoulda Woulda of Blaine and
Finn doing Dirty Dancing.

1011
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:42,400
Forgot about that for a few
minutes and now it's just right

1012
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,400
back in the front of my mind.
I don't forget anything.

1013
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:51,100
How could you do such a strong
visual take notes.

1014
01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:59,400
Oh man and also once again the
lack of an actual story line for

1015
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,800
Rachel and Shelby.
Yeah.

1016
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,200
Because I feel like I could turn
into more, but it never does.

1017
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:15,700
I mean, imagine weirdness of a
scene, especially, well, I guess

1018
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:18,700
we can't have Jeff Goldblum
anymore because cancelled, but

1019
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,700
imagine the awkwardness of a
scene of Rachel making Shelby

1020
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:24,600
come to dinner with her to K
dads.

1021
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,100
Especially because isn't one of
them, Brian, Stokes Mitchell.

1022
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,600
I'm pretty sure that Brian
Stokes Mitchell is Rachel's up

1023
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,000
in it.
Yeah, Israel is other debt and

1024
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,800
he is another Broadway star and
then you could have a thing

1025
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,600
like, well, obviously, this is
how her gee.

1026
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,600
I don't know.
Yeah, no.

1027
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:48,000
I mean, they're her dad's are
fucking Delight in the episode

1028
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,000
that they're in like and
Shelby's of.

1029
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:52,200
I didn't Menzel's a fucking
Delight like that.

1030
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,900
It would have been funny.
Yeah.

1031
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,800
Did she see Rachel?
Dad's, when she comes into town,

1032
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,600
she's just living there for a
while and this one.

1033
01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:05,100
Oh, yeah, I think Manny get on
it.

1034
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:08,600
But instead, we got the trash
Heap, Shelby storyline that they

1035
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,300
have, like, it could have been
so much more interesting because

1036
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,800
they're like, scapegoat again
would have been a lot more fun

1037
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,900
focused on Rach.
I mean, not that I want to give

1038
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:21,400
her a gym or storylines but
focus on racial and she'll be a

1039
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,900
nutshell being Quinn and bethan
other another raise Have a story

1040
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:28,400
line like that than just another
story line of her being really

1041
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,300
selfish.
Then she's my twin time and so

1042
01:04:31,300 --> 01:04:34,500
she's the best of her.
And she's like, it's again.

1043
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:39,900
Like, all right.
Well said, well said, so I guess

1044
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:46,100
that I think we're going to call
that the episode great.

1045
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:52,900
I'm done with our wrap up
housekeeping that one day, we're

1046
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:58,100
going to be really good at We
have recorded and posted our Q&A

1047
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:01,700
episode which was an honor of
our first 10 patrons that is

1048
01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:06,700
available on our patreon, which
is patreon.com slash Glee on the

1049
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:08,700
Rocks if you want to join
awesome.

1050
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,000
If you don't or can't, that's
cool too.

1051
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:16,000
We're fine with it.
So yeah you can still wasn't

1052
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,400
we're cool.
We love you.

1053
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:20,500
We made a website.
It is called Glee on the

1054
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:24,800
Rocks.com.
We are thinking about ways to

1055
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,800
make the Websites super cool.
Which may end up?

1056
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Including like a rant corner of
a Blog where we take turns

1057
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:39,600
ranting about something Glee or
Glee cast related in short form,

1058
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:45,400
Type e and not Taki.
I don't know why I said it like

1059
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,300
the type A and that's hockey
typing.

1060
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:55,300
If you hadn't have vent, if you
feel the need to leave us, a

1061
01:05:55,300 --> 01:06:01,300
comment or a review or a rating
on your podcast, platform of

1062
01:06:01,300 --> 01:06:03,500
choice, we would appreciate
that.

1063
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:06,700
And love that.
If you do and you send us a

1064
01:06:06,707 --> 01:06:08,600
screenshot, it could be a bad
review.

1065
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,000
I don't care.
I mean I do care but also like

1066
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,400
I'll still send you a picture of
my podcasts.

1067
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,200
Yeah, that's true.
We can offer pod cat pictures.

1068
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:19,700
Is that is that pay-for-play
though?

1069
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:24,100
That might be illegal.
It's not currency, isn't it?

1070
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:29,600
Though I'll send you went okay.
You know purchase not necessary.

1071
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,100
You don't have to you can just
send us an email and say I want

1072
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,400
a pod cat picture and you'll
still get one yet.

1073
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,900
We just Actually like it if you
would tell us that you love to

1074
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:40,500
serve you and you get two
pockets.

1075
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,000
I got to say when I said earlier
I have an idea it was absolutely

1076
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,900
a patreon tier where we send you
a picture of like every amazing.

1077
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:03,500
Amazing super.
All right, well, well, we might

1078
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:07,700
have to do that.
Um, we will have another mini

1079
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:11,300
episode coming for you, and we
are working on a special episode

1080
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:16,600
that were super excited about.
We also have our first two part

1081
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:22,600
voices, of Glee episode, where
we had three other amazing fans

1082
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,900
talk about their experiences
with Glee and that is also

1083
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:31,500
available and it is awesome.
I think that's the wrap up,

1084
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:33,100
right?
Just about as long as the

1085
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:36,500
episode.
Get a lot of stuff going on.

1086
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:41,100
No no, no stuff going on.
Yeah, so thank you for

1087
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:45,800
listening, stay safe, wash your
hands and goddamnit.

1088
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,500
Register to vote.
If you haven't get out there,

1089
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:55,300
please do this, do it.
So that's some, that's what you

1090
01:07:55,300 --> 01:08:00,300
missed wear a mask.
Jesus wear a mask and vote, and

1091
01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:02,500
wear a mask while you vote.
Amen.

1092
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,500
So that's what you missed on
Glee.