Glee on the Rocks: 5x12 - "100", Part 1

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Hi, this is Emily from Phantom
on the Rocks.

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We got a little away with
ourselves recording this episode

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of Glee on the Rocks 512, and
that is because it's the 100th

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episode.
So we had to break it up into

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two parts so that you weren't
stuck listening to us for 97

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hours straight.
So there is going to be a Part 1

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and a Part 2.
You are currently going to be

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listening to Part 1 and then
hopefully you will stick around

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for Part 2 so that you won't
miss anything on Glee.

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She's not beating the
allegations that she writes

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Warblers fan fiction.
You're listening to Glee on the

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Rocks.
Well, welcome back to Glee on

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the Rocks, a Phantom on the
Rocks podcast.

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I'm Emily.
I'm Mandy.

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I'm Dee.
I'm Adriana.

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And I'm Allison.
And all five of us are here at

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the same time, finally.
We literally scheduled this a

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month in advance.
Not gonna explain.

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All of the goings on that just
happened trying to get this

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recording started.
Literally 40 minutes of it.

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But we're here, and we're
together. 3 generations of

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fandom on the rocks in one
place.

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Tell tell us why all all three
generations of podcasters are

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together today.
Well, it's a very special

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episode of Glee.
It's the 100th episode, yeah.

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Appropriately titled 100. 1100,
which you know for them means

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syndication, if that were still
a thing that happened.

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It's a, it's a thing that
happens in their contract.

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They're, you know, as a, as a
Fox Show.

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They are on a basic contract and
a basic television contract,

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which means that their residuals
are are are baked right into the

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text.
Do you know what's?

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Interesting not to completely
derail like talking about the

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plot of Glee.
Do you ever see reruns of Glee

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on TV?
Literally never.

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Can you imagine that we're just
playing at like 5:00 PM every

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day when kids got home from
school?

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But like, I see reruns of 911
and that's an actively running

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show.
Yeah, that was pretty normal

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though that and that that also
requires you to have like a

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cable subscription.
Yeah.

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Billy did get syndicated I think
on like oxygen y'all remember?

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That.
I don't know what I would do if

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I was just, like, flipping
through channels and Will

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Shuster just appeared on my
television.

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Like I don't think I'd be OK
you.

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Know.
What's crazy too is, well, first

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of all, a jail, jail stop.
What's crazy too is so a couple

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of weeks ago I saw this ad on
Facebook and the fact that, you

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know, that would have been
incomprehensible 10 years ago is

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insane.
But I saw this ad on Facebook

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and it was ABC advertising the
season 2 finale of Only Murders

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in the Building airing on ABC.
And I was like, first of all,

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this is a Hulu original.
Secondly, they finished their

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fourth season on Hulu like 6
months ago.

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So ABC, which is the actual TV
channel is boasting about the

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season 2 finale which came out
two years ago.

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So I would not be so like now
streaming originals are getting

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syndication they.
Are yeah, I saw, I caught it.

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I caught Only Murders on like, I
don't know, after Jeopardy.

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And I was like, but this is like
season 1.

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They're just airing it as if
it's brand new.

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That's because Disney, Hulu of
ABC, whatever is one of

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America's five companies, so.
But I would not be surprised now

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if like all of these older shows
that were like Fox shows that

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are now under the Disney
umbrella would eventually get

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back to syndication on one of
their 25 different channels that

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are just children to ABC, which
is Disney and like.

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The shitty thing about it is
that all of these shows that,

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and again, my union knowledge of
contracts is old at this point.

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It's many negotiations old at
this point.

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But to the best of my knowledge,
like the streaming contract

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programs that were developed and
filmed under streaming have a

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different contract because they
don't do Nielsen ratings.

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They don't have viewership
numbers, They don't have that

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kind of system.
So they can't really get

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syndicated.
It doesn't work that way.

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And so like if only murderers
was filmed on Hulu, they were

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filmed under a new media
contract.

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And now that they're getting
picked up and syndicated by ABC,

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they don't have any of the same
protections or like benefits

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necessarily of being a program
that was filmed on on a network

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contract, which just like grinds
my gears in a very particular

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way.
And like, none of the principals

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on that show need the rerun
money, but all of the like

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ensemble cast probably does.
Oh for sure.

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Anybody who's getting 12 cent
checks needs those 12 cent

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checks like Let it ride.
They're important.

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It's the only reason a lot of
people qualify for Healthcare is

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because their their residual
checks put them over the earning

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limit.
It does, yeah.

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So it's it just drives me crazy,
It grinds my gears and I hate

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it.
Support your unions.

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And that's the end of the
episode.

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Support your.
Unions goodbye.

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Goodbye I.
Guess we have to go back to the

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actual plot which does occur.
There is something of a plot in

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this episode.
The Glee club is still

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cancelled.
Somehow we have to begin this

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episode with Rachel coming back
to McKinley because it's always

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about her.
OK, but.

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Shoot To her credit, Rachel and
Mercedes start this episode in a

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very like old school Glee
fashion.

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It Yeah, yes, this is a tribute
to the show itself.

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And I did love it.
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Yeah, but starting with Rachel
narration.

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I literally wrote down we're
starting with Rachel narration

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of.
Course we.

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Are it's great.
It's.

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Like I was also like, they're
still feuding, Yeah.

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That was my thing.
I I wrote the fabricated

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rivalry, right?
It's fully fabricated.

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These two people have not been
in a room together in almost a

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year in Showtime.
Like they don't.

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I wish they had moved on.
Regular people would.

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Real human people would have
moved on.

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Yeah.
Real human people wouldn't be

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one year out of high school with
one of them having a recording

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contract and one on Broadway
there.

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Yeah.
Right, I can't just why women be

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successful.
It would have made more sense to

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have Santana feuding with
literally anyone.

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I mean, she does.
We just have to get there.

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Yeah, but like to.
Open it with Santana.

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That would have been like, Oh
yeah, OK.

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Well, of course she has beef
with everyone.

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Yeah, 'cause Santana has beef
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Deservedly so.
The original beef is actually

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Rachel and Mercedes against
McKinley the school 'cause

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they're like, where's my
confetti?

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Where's my banner?
Right, You're literally you

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graduated 5 minutes ago.
Like you're a child, it's fine.

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Wanted one of them to get
slushied the way.

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But.
That would have been a good call

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back.
What a surprise that there

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actually were 0 slushies.
Correct.

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Like the whole thing was a love
letter to the first, like many

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seasons of Glee.
Like that beef intro should have

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been both of them storming down
the hallway and then like out of

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nowhere they come to face each
other and then boom slushy.

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Especially because has done a
slushy since like they won

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nationals and did like the
confetti slushies.

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It was like the symbolic end of
like them being slushied or.

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Whatever, now they're like.
So I feel like I remember

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somebody at the beginning of
season 4, like one of the

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newbies getting slushied.
And then of course, Tina in the

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sky with diamonds.
Tina gets.

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Oh, the ultimate slushy.
You're right.

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The ultimate Carrie slushied.
Fucking.

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Rough.
I just.

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Like the way they care so much
about high school.

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Right.
I rather.

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Graduated.
No one cares that you came back.

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Also none of these kids are
peaking in high school.

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That's for like people who were
like on the football team and

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like head cheerleader and shit
and didn't get pregnant and have

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a baby.
Like none of these people peaked

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in high school.
That's absolutely ridiculous.

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I mean, maybe Quinn.
She did.

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Get pregnant.
I was going to say.

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I was going to say puppy twin.
They they, yeah.

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But it's funny because they
portrayed them too specifically

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as like transcending high school
in this in this episode.

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So that's so true.
I really forgot how much of this

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episode was about people that
are not in the rest of the show

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ever.
Yeah.

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It was a little, it was a little
jump scare to be like, oh, so

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we're going back to all the
casting characters that I love

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and care about, who you've
developed with storylines and

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plot devices and personalities.
Oh, and now you're going to send

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them away again.
Yes, it was very farewell vibes,

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very much.
Like, oh, you're never going to

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see these people again.
Never.

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Yeah, I guess before we get to
the choir room, there is a line

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about Rachel saying that she is
the biggest Broadway star the

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school has ever produced, and
then we're going to run into

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April roads.
So it's just patent we.

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Well, on a technicality, because
like, technically April Rhodes

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did go to the school, but she
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And technically, I forgot about
Rachel hasn't been on Broadway

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yet.
Technically.

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She's still in rehearsals.
Battle of the technicalities so.

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Like fuck out, Rachel.
I beg Rachel every day that I

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think about her, which is
increasingly less and less, to

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like, get off her high horse.
One day which circles I mean.

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When she's dead.
It'll be the end of the episode.

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But when they do define gravity
and they vote and it's a tie

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between Rachel and Mercedes like
Kurt was in the song too.

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Assholes.
We'll get there.

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Yeah, no, yeah.
No mention.

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No mention of Kurt.
No.

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Mention I noticed I was pissed.
I was there.

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It was rare.
And no one hitting that high

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note.
Not one person.

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That was the, that was the part
of that.

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We'll get, we'll get there,
we'll get there.

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Like they, they spend like 20
minutes circling around like, oh

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man, that high note at the end.
And then the arrangement is that

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no one has to hit any high note
at all.

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Like what are you?
What are you doing?

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What are you doing to me?
Why I don't?

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Even like the song, I was like,
no one's gonna do it.

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Great cool.
You've done this now four times.

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OK, cool.
Thanks.

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So many times.
OK, anyway, the choir room.

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Everyone has to praise Rachel.
Rachel and Mercedes fight over

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the Rachel chair.
I didn't actually know there was

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a Rachel chair in the choir
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They see it as this like status
symbol and they both rush

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towards it.
Rachel sits down 1st and then

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Mercedes like puts her little
like she puts her outfit to

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rights and then she says she's.
Going to the back of the bus.

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I actually really like that line
though that.

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Was the way.
I just wanted Mercedes to just

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sit on Rachel, on her, to be
like, get out of my chair.

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That's what should have
happened.

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Yes.
Also, why is Mercedes dressing

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like she's 45 years old?
I don't like that.

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The little people.
She's like, she weighs more than

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115 lbs and they don't know how
to dress her.

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It's not fair.
It's not, she looks.

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It's 2014 and that's what.
I guess Rachel was kind of

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conservatively dressed this
episode, too.

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We're going back to high school,
so it's like we gotta.

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Rain.
Everyone was conservatively

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dressed.
Yeah, I.

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Think the wardrobe.
Wardrobe really just wanted to

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make it seem like they were
older and there had been more

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separate.
Yeah, like these are adults.

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They weren't born the same
calendar year as some of the

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other students in the last.
Room, Yeah.

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We're the alumni like you're our
friends.

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We saw you 6 weeks ago.
Yeah, literally.

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Literally.
So stupid.

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Do you want to go by storyline
or do you want to go by like

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chronological order in the
episode?

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I first want someone to explain
to me what Mr. Shuster means by

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100 lessons in the timeline of
Glee I.

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Mean nothing.
It's a lie.

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He wrote 100 things on the
board.

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Not even.
Probably not.

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Though he says there's been 100
lessons and then the Wikipedia,

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the Glee, Apedia, whatever the
fuck is like, actually there's

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74 lessons.
Like, oh.

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Where did you get that number
from?

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You can't have her possibly be
true.

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Just like the number of times he
actually remembered he was a

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teacher in the run of that show.
Is Glee club not a daily

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occurrence?
Because if there's five days in

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the school week and you divide
that, there's 20 weeks that

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they've been in Glee club, That
can't be right.

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Or and then also.
Maybe.

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It's like so does a week.
It's like it's a, it's a one

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week, you know, they they meet
up all the time because they're

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like friends and that's what
they do when they hang out and

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whatever.
But that like the official Glee

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club block is only once a week
maybe.

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And if you know.
It's one lesson a week.

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And then one lesson a week.
Yeah.

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So the school week is what, 35
weeks?

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32 weeks.
I don't know how time works in

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Ohio. 4/9.
Yeah. 37 But then you also, you

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also have to divide up like OK,
how much of it was actually

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lessons?
How much of it was like

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railroaded by drama?
How much of it was like practice

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for?
Apparently the the Glee pedia

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says 74, so we'll shoot.
She said 74.

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And, and, and regardless of what
they said, that was not a line

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for the students.
That was a line for the

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audience, yes.
Right, that's true.

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It was bad math via plot device.
Well, he couldn't say 100

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episodes, so you gotta.
Do something 'cause that would

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be a little too bad important.
This must be important.

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It's the name of the episode.
Like aha, OK, it's the.

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Name of the episode?
It's like that kind of shit

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irritates me.
Like, this can't, can't possibly

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be true.
So the, OK, I guess our main

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storyline is that the alums have
come back.

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Some of them, not all of them,
have come back to celebrate the

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fact that the Glee club is
ending and they want to sing

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together one last time, but
they're going to perform a song

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they already did, but
reinvented.

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Not really reinvented, because
none of these songs are

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completely reinvented.
No.

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Some of them are sang by the
exact same people.

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Yeah, literally.
That's like not even half assing

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it.
No 1/4.

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It's a different set.
Yeah, not even actually.

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Right.
Some of the same choreography a.

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100% like they just did the same
little moves in the background.

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Like OK the wiki says do you
remember this happening?

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Because I don't remember this
happening.

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But the song selection was voted
on by fans through a poll.

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Don't.
Remember that, maybe?

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On Twitter.
The fans?

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No, it was a rap article.
Fans got to choose from 30

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classic Glee performances and
then ten of them would be in the

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episode.
But only 8 songs were released

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and seven of them were in the
episode.

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Well, maybe, maybe the 10 was
like between both episodes

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'cause they did do like the
slower loser like me and the.

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Oh yeah.
In the next episode, right?

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And then probably like another
one that I can't remember.

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I'm hoping it not that I need a
fourth version of Don't Stop

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Believing, but it would seem
really weird like for the plot

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to not do that song at the end.
Of I think they do that one at

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the end of the other one.
At the end of the next one,

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yeah.
Makes sense?

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Dog Days Are Over was supposed
to be one of the songs sung by

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Holly Holiday.
Oh thank God we didn't get that.

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Yeah.
No, thank you.

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But she did Happy instead 'cause
she doesn't have to do a rewind

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song, she gets to do her own
jam.

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I got it.
I was wondering how in the logic

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of the episode they were redoing
a song but like they start by

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redoing A warbler song.
That yes, thank you, Blaine for

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calling it out.
Yeah.

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So what April Rhodes was at that
competition?

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How does she know?
Yeah, because.

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She came on YouTube.
She's she's fucking clairvoyant

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because she literally says oh
the warblers did this.

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No wonder it didn't sound
annoying in my head.

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Every time I like.
Yeah.

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I'm sure they talked about it in
the Facebook group they're all

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in.
Yes.

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Cooper.
Yes, Cooper, because Cooper.

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Would Cooper have been at
Warblers Regionals in 2011?

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No, but Blaine recorded it and
sent it to his brother.

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Yeah, there are a lot of YouTube
videos of like show choir

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performances through the years.
That is true.

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My, my, my thoughts are, you
know, the show car forums and

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all that.
Like there's just like Warbler

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recordings.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Surely there's like a Warblers
fandom within the show choir

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community.
The same way that there was a

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Wiffen Poops fandom.
Right.

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Absolutely.
Apparently, April Rhodes is #1.

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Yeah, she just doesn't know that
it's the.

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She definitely bought the
Warbler sweater from Forever 21.

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I mean.
Oh, I'm sorry, was.

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That too deep fucking.
Cut.

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Wait, did anyone here have it?
I know someone in fandom who

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did, but I didn't.
Matt had it.

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Yeah, I was going to say it.
I feel like I know people who

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had it.
Yeah, I didn't have it, but I

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knew people who had it.
Yeah.

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OK.
So for each of these versions,

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we need to decide if the new
one's better or the old one's

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better.
So if he wears your glass.

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Is the new one better?
The old one.

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No, it's.
The old one, the old one.

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'S way better.
The old one is so the old one is

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so much better that they
recreated the old one's

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choreography.
It did, it was.

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No, no, no, no.
I'm not saying that the Warblers

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can do no wrong 'cause they do
do some wrong.

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There's some Warblers songs that
I'm not a not.

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I don't like candles.
Was it for me?

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That wasn't messed up.
You're right, it was.

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Just but you.
Can't be mad at it because it

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got Curd and Blaine together.
It's true, it did.

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But it's it got them together
and they never spoke again.

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But yeah, no, of course the of
course the original Warbler 1 is

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better.
This one was.

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I, I, I tuned it out.
It was not for me.

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It seemed like a reference to
Red Solo Cup a little bit too.

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It did.
They kept like with the

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champagne flutes.
They were like.

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I think I would have much rather
seen them do Red Solo Cup.

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Yeah.
That is a fandom favorite for

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me.
It would have been a good lead

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on that 1 I think.
My God, yes.

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OK, not to say anything negative
about Kristin Chenoweth.

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But.
She doesn't meld into a group

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song.
No.

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No, it's true.
And like.

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Stands out.
She stands out.

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So with Raise Your Glass, the
original is like a group and

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it's just her above everybody
else doing it.

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And I was like, it's not the
vibe of the song.

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No.
Yeah, it got into Kidz Bop

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territory a little bit.
It did.

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There we go.
It was.

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Too close to that, yeah.
You're very right.

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So negative on this one.
I do love how she's just

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flirting with Blaine the entire
time.

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Well, obviously somebody has to
because his fiance wasn't.

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I It's one of those episodes
when they're on opposite sides

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of the room, like the whole
time.

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Why?
Middle name Hummel.

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They weren't Elizabeth.
They were sitting.

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Like.
Two choir chairs 6 feet apart,

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no homo in the hot tub.
What the fuck?

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What the fuck?
It's very much homo, gentlemen.

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Yeah, Oh, no, not to worry.
April Rhodes gives them their

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wedding present, which is just
two flasks to, what is it, Dole,

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their wedding night sodomy and
the impending divorce.

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It was horrifying.
Horrifying.

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Do that to them.
Like not only should you just

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not be doing that to anybody at
all across the board, do not do

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that to like high school, barely
graduated college children.

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Are you kidding?
Are you kidding?

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I mean, she's not beating the
allegations that she writes

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Warbler's fan fiction.
She's not.

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In her sweater.
A tube of Lube would have been

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better in the situation.
Jesus Christ.

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Is that it would have been just
as off putting.

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But like supplying?
Alcohol to minors, but.

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Like stop.
But she's been doing that.

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I know I'm like, you're gonna
get arrested.

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It was funny in Season 1, it's
not as funny in Season 5.

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No, right, Right.
I feel like her character did

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feel too overblown for, like,
everybody else.

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Maybe not everybody.
Several of the other characters

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had some significant character
development in this episode.

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Yeah.
And she was still, like, such a

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caricature.
I wasn't really.

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Like I love Kristen Chenoweth
but never liked it trope the the

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trope word for the character
It's it's the opposite of the

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wubafication where a character's
traits just keep like ramping

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into.
Absurdity.

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I don't know.
They do that a lot though,

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especially with like the dumb
character, yeah or whatever and

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everything I feel like.
There's a word for that and I

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just can't think of it.
I'll think of it tomorrow when

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we're not talking.
Perfect.

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Drop out the show notes.
It'll be really useful.

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OK, well, do we want to, do we
have to talk about Puck and

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Quinn's storyline?
Like do we want to move into

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that and keep with them
throughout the the?

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Episode I I mean, if anything
else, Adriana and I can talk

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about it and the rest of you can
go like not talking about

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getting Drake cook us up a Drake
go to the bathroom goat might

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be.
Juice.

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I mean, I will say I have some
cred there because the first

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Glee thick I ever wrote was in
season 1 and it was Puck and

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Quinn.
Like before.

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Blaine, like before Blaine
existed.

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I I I wrote a puck and Quinn
Thick.

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And like, don't get me wrong, I
am.

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I'm faberry for life like.
And this episode did provide me

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with some Rachel and Quinn.
It did, but I like Puck and

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Quinn.
I always kind of did.

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It's not.
Puck's fault, his actor is

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garbage.
Yes, yes.

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It just doesn't help.
Yeah, the.

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Character was also garbage.
Character was also garbage in

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his own vibe.
Like, but he grew one season

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ago.
Just one season ago.

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Just one season ago, though, he
was hooking up with Kitty around

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this time and then.
He.

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Stopped hooking up with a
sophomore and then like I so I

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also wrote this down because OK
so I said didn't puck like join

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whatever army organization this
is like weeks ago because if

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we're like I know the time
dilation, especially within this

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season is like so so so bad.
But generously, we can say that

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it's been two months between
regionals and nationals, and

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this episode is taking place
right after nationals, which at

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most would make it 3 months
between Puck leaving, crashing

460
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,120
with Finn at like Lima
University or whatever and

461
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:34,320
joining whatever organization
this is and then being in full

462
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,160
uniform.
Wasn't there generously

463
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,000
generously 3 months?
Basic training is at the minimum

464
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,160
9 weeks.
I, I have I have like a, a

465
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,720
crackpot theory for this, which
occurred to me while I was just

466
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,760
like looking up stuff about the
episode because apparently if

467
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,080
you look in like the trivia like
goof section, he's wearing the

468
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,960
ranking of a full officer.
I'm like he, he, he dropped out.

469
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,720
He just stole that.
He showed up in someone's.

470
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,400
Uniform.
He showed up.

471
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,640
Yep.
Yeah, yeah.

472
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,720
It's the Air Force too, Yeah,
it's an Air Force.

473
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200
He just showed up in an Air
Force officer's uniform and he

474
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,760
was like, no one is gonna know
the difference.

475
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,800
It'll impress me.
Yeah, it'll impress her.

476
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,440
It's fine.
Like, wasn't there a big, like a

477
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:21,400
canonical time jump between
Finn's death and like, something

478
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,800
else?
Wasn't there like a big.

479
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,360
Between the between the between
the death and it must have been

480
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,480
the the memorial.
Yeah.

481
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,280
And then between the memorial
and the rest.

482
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,800
Of the season and the rest of
the season.

483
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,040
I don't know how how that
affects your timeline, but no,

484
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,400
no, no, no, no, no, I'm not
saying Puckerman is a good dude.

485
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,880
He is not a good dude.
He is better than he used to be.

486
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,960
So you know what?
He's not good enough.

487
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,280
I forgot that Chase Crawford was
in this.

488
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,480
Yes.
That's his name.

489
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,680
I'm like, I've launched in the
episode.

490
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,520
I'm like, Oh my God, it's Gossip
Girl.

491
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,680
I was.
Like, Oh my God, it's.

492
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,720
Nate.
It is.

493
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:01,720
It's Nate.
It's Nate.

494
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,480
'Cause he's playing the same
character.

495
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Same guy.
Same fucking guy.

496
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,960
They had to make him that bad so
that puck looked pretty good,

497
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,360
like they had to make him the
worst ever.

498
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,360
And also because Chase Crawford
just looks like that.

499
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000
He does.
Punchable.

500
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Yeah.
He's got a very punchable face.

501
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,480
My only my only addition to this
is that I have met Chase

502
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,760
Crawford and he's kind of nice.
Good.

503
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,840
Oh, that's good.
I feel like you gotta be really

504
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,040
nice to play mean, yeah.
Yeah.

505
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,640
Like, unless you're.
Unless you're.

506
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,680
Michelle, like Michelle, I know.
That's what you're saying.

507
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,240
Yeah, it was a a, a movie that
we did in New York and it was

508
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,920
pretty professional and pretty
nice.

509
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,760
I love that he's a nice person.
Shout out shit.

510
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:50,800
Movie but like.
I think Nate from Gossip Girl

511
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,160
and Biff from Glee are both
assholes.

512
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,560
Yes, so.
You're not incorrect, but I

513
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,040
think I also think when this was
airing, I I was watching Gossip

514
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,720
Girl for the first time and I
was in the era of like Nate not

515
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,400
being the worst.
So it's like, Oh my gosh, it's

516
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,280
Nate.
Well, like, it's the same

517
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000
problem here, right?
In Gossip Girl you have Nate

518
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,000
being the good guy to Chuck who
is the worst, and here you have

519
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560
to make.
Bill.

520
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,760
Chuck, in order to raise Puck to
like a Nate level like you have

521
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,040
to give him a foil who is strong
enough where we can, as the

522
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,640
audience can overlook Puck in
his decisions.

523
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,520
I know these are names, I've
just never seen Gossip Girl.

524
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,440
Would hate it you.
You actually actively would.

525
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,320
I hate it so much.
A pilot's worth watching like

526
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,880
from a television perspective,
but in the 1st.

527
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,720
Season's pretty good as a as a
like an as a capsule.

528
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,880
Yeah.
Don't watch anything else.

529
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,440
Nope.
Perfect.

530
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Great it is.
Married by Kristen Bell.

531
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,160
So that's that's a bonus.
All right, we have to talk about

532
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Glee.
So Huck and Quinn are trying to

533
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,160
not get back together.
Well, Puck's trying desperately

534
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,200
to get back together with Quinn
because he sees her and

535
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560
immediately goes like goo goo
Gaga eyes.

536
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920
And Quinn is trying desperately
to fight off the Goo goo Gaga

537
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,080
eyes because she has brought
along her very appropriate rich

538
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,320
asshole New England boyfriend.
The Macintosh, Apple Fortune,

539
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,480
the.
Macintosh, Apple, Fortune.

540
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,560
He gets $0.05 every time you eat
an apple.

541
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Hey, that's.
It's not nothing.

542
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,560
Yeah, it.
Is.

543
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Yeah, it is so wild to me
because it I feel like it kills

544
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,280
all of Quinn's character
development from literally

545
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,520
anytime after she got pregnant
because this is like this was

546
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,080
gonna be her trajectory is like
if she didn't marry someone from

547
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,320
high school and just like have a
house become like, you know, a

548
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,280
real estate agent or whatever.
She was going to go to an Ivy

549
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,040
League or something comparable
and marry into an old money

550
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,120
family.
And this is she just was like,

551
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,800
well, I'm at Yale, so I don't
have character development

552
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,480
anymore, even though my hair is
not being styled in the same way

553
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,120
that it was in 2009.
But I will say, as we like, you

554
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840
know, 'cause we'll follow, we'll
follow Puck and Quinn at least

555
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,800
'cause it's not horribly long.
You know, Quinn is, you know,

556
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,400
thank you so much for coming
with me.

557
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,600
And she's just trying really
hard to live in the present.

558
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680
She's thinking about her future,
and she is not focusing on her

559
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,200
past.
And, and we're all sitting here

560
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,800
going like we haven't seen you
in three seasons.

561
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,800
But your past is exciting and
it's gonna stick around with you

562
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,680
for a minute.
Including the Ryan Seacrest

563
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,680
tattoo, which God bless his
Canon.

564
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,760
And so they go out a little
later to Breadsticks.

565
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,400
And Biff, being the, you know,
networking Macintosh Apple

566
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,920
magnet that he is, decides to
invite all of Quinn's high

567
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,280
school friends to the table with
them, where they decide to drop

568
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:18,760
little sprinkles of Quinn's past
that made us all love her so

569
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,160
much.
Ladies and gentlemen and friends

570
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,400
of all genders, my beloved skank
Quinn.

571
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,120
The best Quinn the best The best
Quinn the.

572
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,960
Like funniest Quinn OH.
Piano Project has such a place

573
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,920
in my heart.
Oh my God.

574
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Skank Quinn and yeah, my.
Favorite like season openers,

575
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,360
It's a good.
Yeah, I would also absolutely do

576
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,960
this to my friends though.
Like what do you what do you

577
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
mean?
Like when you're tattoos and

578
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,960
your pink hair like.
Like, don't you remember the

579
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,240
baby that we had?
Like, don't you remember like

580
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,120
that baby set a piano on fire?
Remember that time that you.

581
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000
I had a great time.
You were there, remember?

582
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
When you and Mercedes were best
friends and you moved in with

583
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,040
into her house because her
parents no one remembers.

584
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,080
That no one remembers that.
I remember you don't remember

585
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,440
Han delivered your baby.
Pepper, Tom remembers.

586
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,160
Does remember Mandy?
It is criminal that we never get

587
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,760
any Mercedes Quinn interaction
after season 1 and realistically

588
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,760
even after that episode.
Right.

589
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,320
Yeah.
Like, because we'll get to it in

590
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440
a little bit.
But like, Mercedes does a lot of

591
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,920
talking to Rachel Berry in this
episode for absolutely no

592
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,480
reason.
She should be reconciling with

593
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,440
Quinn.
Quinn should be reconciling

594
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,320
with, like, Brady and Santana.
Like, I hate it.

595
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,880
I hate this.
That whole bathroom

596
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,000
conversation, I wanted to from
existence correct.

597
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,680
I was so mad about it.
It shouldn't have been written,

598
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
it shouldn't have been filmed.
No, it was wrong.

599
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Get to it, but.
We'll get there, maybe.

600
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360
This is Quinn's time.
Not to put Rachel into Quinn's

601
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,640
time like everything else, but
yeah, I hated.

602
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,960
It I'll put Rachel into Quinn's
time.

603
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Very cool.
Quinn deserves more than Rachel

604
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,240
or Biff.
Quinn deserves the world,

605
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,800
deserves the world Instead, what
she gets instead, what she gets

606
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,360
is Puck pulling everyone into
the auditorium so that he can

607
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800
sing.
Keep holding on, keep holding

608
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:33,440
on, 'cause you know we'll make
it through.

609
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:41,640
We'll make it through just.
Stay strong, 'cause you know I'm

610
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,920
here for you, I'm here for you.
There's nothing you can say,

611
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,560
there's nothing you can do,
there's no other way when it

612
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:59,440
comes to the truth.
So keen holding on, 'cause you

613
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960
know, we'll make it through,
we'll make it through.

614
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Am I correct in remembering that
this is the song that they, the

615
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Glee club, sings to her when
they figure out that she's

616
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,160
pregnant?
No, it's after she gets kicked

617
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,600
out.
Of her parents house.

618
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,840
Or of the parents house, I don't
remember.

619
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,600
OK.
It's the like the episode where

620
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880
like she moves in with Mercedes
and when she does all that.

621
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,360
Yeah, no, no, no, no 'cause when
she moves into Mercedes's house

622
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,120
is like back half of the season,
'cause it's when Mercedes like,

623
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:36,720
joins the Cheerios.
I just season 1 episode 7 thank

624
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,520
you throw down.
Huh.

625
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,480
So then it's gotta be when she
gets kicked out of Cheerios.

626
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,880
Maybe.
Yeah, a single.

627
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,320
Kicker after Sue tells Jacob Ben
Israel to run the story of

628
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Quinn's pregnancy on his blog.
There he goes.

629
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,040
So she gets outed.
So she gets, yeah, I'll just Ben

630
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,640
Israel.
Why wasn't he in this episode?

631
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,680
Do we need that?
I don't need that.

632
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,680
I didn't need a lot of this,
actually.

633
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,440
Yeah, only comments about this
actually have several.

634
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,880
But my biggest comment about
this is that Quinn's outfit.

635
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,480
I know Quinn's outfit is so
2014.

636
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:16,520
My freshman year roommate wore
the same skirt for sorority

637
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,040
recruitment.
Oh my God.

638
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,719
I was like, I clocked in on that
skirt and I was like, huh, I

639
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,520
recognize that.
Hold on.

640
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,880
But no, so she's he's singing
acoustic guitar because what

641
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,560
else is Puck gonna do?
And like the original Glee club

642
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,360
members like so that they open
the the curtains on the stage

643
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,480
and then the risers are there.
And the original Glee club

644
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,719
members who would have sang this
to begin with go up and start

645
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,600
doing the choreo.
And then by the end of the song,

646
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,400
all of the Glee club members are
like, doing the choreo.

647
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,480
And Quinn is just sitting there,
like playing with her, like

648
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,720
Pearl necklace, like tearing up
a little bit.

649
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,400
And like, ah, if you remember
this moment and if you have an

650
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,960
emotional connection to this
moment, I understand why you

651
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,880
would be teary eyed.
And then he goes to talk to her

652
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,800
and he's like, you have to hold
on to your past.

653
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,360
And she says something to the
effect of like, oh, I was crying

654
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,360
because I didn't remember this
song until you started singing

655
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,320
it.
And that's fair.

656
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,840
She probably blocked out a lot
of her sophomore year due to a

657
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,280
trauma response.
So I believe that, and maybe

658
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,920
that's why she doesn't talk to
Mercedes anymore.

659
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,200
She forgot that she lived there.
But I have a big problem, and

660
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080
this will go back to like what
we were talking about before.

661
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,520
I have a big problem with Puck's
whole stance of like, you have

662
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,400
to hold on to your past.
Like you don't have to hold on

663
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,640
to your past to be honest about
it and honor who you are, but

664
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,520
you should move on if you want
to have a life.

665
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,400
Life doesn't end at 25.
Your best years are most likely

666
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,240
not in high school.
You do not have to hold on to

667
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:19,360
who we were and you don't have
to like constantly be around

668
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,800
those people and be in those
spaces to still be a whole

669
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,000
human.
You have to accept it to heal,

670
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,320
and you probably should be
honest about it if you want to

671
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,920
have fulfilling relationships.
But this is like a completely

672
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,760
different extreme that we're
taking things to.

673
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,840
Yeah, I.
Don't.

674
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Know that's the thesis of our
podcast.

675
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:42,840
Yes.
Fuck high school.

676
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,120
I think especially, especially
considering Quinns like presumed

677
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,960
trajectory, it really just feels
like a high school boyfriend who

678
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,760
knows he's not going to get too
far away from town really wants

679
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,040
to keep her there too, and
that's not good.

680
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,800
Or wants to like, ride those
coattails to wherever she's

681
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,040
going to go.
Right.

682
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Because like that seems like a
very much like a very puck

683
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,360
perspective.
Because of what he is going

684
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,560
through, he has no choice but to
hold on to his past because as a

685
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,000
kid or as a teenager, some of
the things that you hold closest

686
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,800
to are your immediate family,
your very close circle of

687
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,960
friends, and your significant
others.

688
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,280
He has never had a great
relationship super with his mom

689
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,720
or with his half brother.
His best friend died and his

690
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:38,360
like high school girlfriend kind
of sort of love child baby Mama

691
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,080
who he considers his soulmate is
like running away from him as

692
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,280
fast as he as fast as she can
like he has nothing and is

693
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,840
desperately trying to cling on
to this past because it it Puck

694
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,880
puck peaked in high school and
unless he decides to change the

695
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,360
trajectory of his life, he will
always have peaked in high

696
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,800
school.
And so like, I can see this

697
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,120
coming from him now.
Is it relevant for her?

698
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,480
Probably not, although you
should really tell any kind of

699
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,560
significant partner that maybe
you had a love child in high

700
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,920
school.
Yeah, might come up.

701
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,560
Chase Crawford kind of had a
point there in terms of like,

702
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,240
like she like she with the the
skank past and the, you know,

703
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:23,360
child at 16, all these things.
She does not have the background

704
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,360
of someone who's gonna marry
into an old money family.

705
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,240
She just doesn't.
But but I'm sure some families

706
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:35,040
with money would be willing to
overlook that if you were honest

707
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,200
about it.
Yes.

708
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:40,880
Instead, you're paying your
roommate to spend hours or to

709
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,800
spend however long applying 3
layers of like, cover up makeup

710
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,320
on your body, on your lower
back.

711
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,920
And you've been dating this man
for three months.

712
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Like hard pass.
Sweetie, this is not going to be

713
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,000
a successful relationship now.
I don't it's wild.

714
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,840
I think it's also the fact that
like Puck as a character is so

715
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,280
like Puck and Quinn as a as a
pairing is also so interesting

716
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,600
to me because he's like, I love
you and clearly is like trying

717
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,760
to convince her to like the
subtext between all of it until

718
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,880
that last conversation is like,
come with me, be with me or I'll

719
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,200
I'll you know, let's try this.
You 2 have not been in a

720
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,000
relationship since your
sophomore year of high school.

721
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,960
Right.
Like in Season 2 she's was

722
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,880
dating Sam and then she was
dating Finn and then in season 3

723
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,160
she was not dating anybody and
then she tried to date Sam and

724
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Sam was like I'm actually into
Mercedes and then she dated.

725
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,560
She got in a car accident and
then she dated teen Jesus bad.

726
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,320
I forgot which.
Why was T Jesus not back?

727
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Or that Irish kid.
Their contracts were only for

728
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,320
like 10 episodes.
Bummer.

729
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,000
So they couldn't finish their
education.

730
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,520
Yeah, that's that's just how it
is in Ohio.

731
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,360
It's also wild watching this at
my big old age of like 28,

732
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,560
because watching this at like
17, I know watching this at 17,

733
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,520
I was like, oh, really rooting
for that.

734
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,280
And watching this at I was like,
Oh my gosh, yes.

735
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,600
And then watching this at 28,
I'm like, the way you're feeling

736
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,440
makes sense.
I need you 2 to have a

737
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,560
conversation that's like
actually realistic.

738
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,600
Yeah.
Like quickly.

739
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Logic and reason in my Fox TV
show my.

740
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Fox TV show, but it's Glee.
Just truly wild.

741
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,200
And then it doesn't get any
better because we close in on,

742
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,800
you know, so they have this big
emotional moment where where

743
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,760
Puck is like let go of your past
or no, like keep a hold of your

744
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,440
past, like hold on to it, never
let it go.

745
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,840
And Quinn's like, no, I want it
gone forever.

746
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,560
I'm going to move in with the
Apple King.

747
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,920
And so we find them.
You know, we find Puck staring

748
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,200
at the second Finn Hudson
Memorial at McKinley High

749
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,640
School.
Because there are two.

750
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:10,880
It must.
Be so far.

751
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,920
What about that tree?
Yeah, maybe the tree, too.

752
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,360
We come upon Finn's jersey and a
little Finn Hudson plaque in the

753
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,240
locker room, affectionately
known on other podcasts of ours

754
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,040
as the Locker Room of
Requirement.

755
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,120
And it's just.
Wherever you need it to be, it's

756
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,200
just literally.
It's.

757
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,760
Fine.
Any door you open happens to be

758
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,520
the the locker room.
It's great.

759
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,600
We find we come upon Puck in the
locker room staring at this like

760
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,680
memorial of Finn and he and and
he and Quinn have yet another

761
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:50,480
conversation kind of sorta, and
he just basically begs her like

762
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,800
I, I, I love you.
I want to be with you.

763
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,960
We belong together.
These are these are your

764
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,920
friends.
We know you come be with us.

765
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:11,200
And she's like, Nah, I have a
pathway to Yale and everything's

766
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,520
cool.
And then Puck's like, OK, I'm

767
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,360
going to go be with the rest of
our friends.

768
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,880
Shruggie emoji.
And he like, walks down the hall

769
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,600
in a very sad, emotional moment.
And then, of course, she runs up

770
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,160
behind him and runs him in a big
kiss.

771
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,520
And they have a very wemma foot
pop and the whole, the whole

772
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,280
thing.
So, you know, we've, we've ended

773
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,400
the episode with Puck and Quinn
having gotten back together, I

774
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,320
guess.
Sorry, I absolutely missed the

775
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,280
part where Puck beats the crap
out of Chase Crawford and throws

776
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,120
him in a dumpster.
Throw was like, I guess a nice

777
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,920
nod to what a jerk has been to
other characters over the years.

778
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Yeah, except you're rooting for
him to do it this time.

779
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,320
Kind of.
Yeah, except you're rooting for

780
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,120
him this time.
Pilot throwback.

781
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,240
Yeah.
I've been surprised.

782
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,400
Or Artie.
About how much of this episode

783
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,240
was dedicated to Puck and Quinn.
Yeah.

784
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,600
Yeah, cuz they were like these
people are never gonna come

785
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,600
back.
I was just literally searching

786
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,120
the wiki to see if it was either
of their final episodes and it

787
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,720
doesn't say it is so.
No, because they come back in

788
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,440
season 6 but I don't think that
the plan for season 6 had

789
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,840
happened was a was a thing in
their heads.

790
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,600
And I also don't think any of
these actor cause like this was

791
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,800
also Diana's first time coming
back since.

792
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,200
He sang love song that time,
yeah.

793
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Yeah, so since since Rachel was
convinced not to show off her

794
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,760
boobs.
Naked.

795
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,080
Film.
Right.

796
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,160
But so this is so this is her
like third appearance since she

797
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,200
graduated, right?
But it was a whole big to do

798
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,600
outside of the show because she
didn't come back for the

799
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,360
quarterback.
And it was this whole he said,

800
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:58,160
she said because she said she
wasn't asked back, but Ryan

801
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,800
Murphy said that it was because
of scheduling problems.

802
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,600
And like he said that she said
no, I wasn't asked back And

803
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,080
like, I would have made it work
with my schedule.

804
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,240
So her being back for this was
like this massive deal.

805
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,760
And because there was like this
little bit of like bad blood

806
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,200
before there, I don't think that
they actually expected her to

807
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,120
say yes to come back for
anything else.

808
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,640
So this is like this massive
send off for this character

809
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,920
that, like, was very, very
beloved in the first three

810
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,560
seasons, even though, like in
Season 3, she's essentially

811
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,800
getting scraps.
And she knew that, 'cause I also

812
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:43,240
remember, we'll talk about
toxic, but I also remember one

813
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,120
of the big things, 'cause she
was doing a lot of film stuff

814
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,200
around this time.
And one of the things that she

815
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,840
said in an interview was that
she never wanted to put on a

816
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:56,880
cheerleading uniform ever again.
So then them doing toxic in the

817
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,720
Cheerios outfit, I was like how
much money did they give you

818
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,320
Dee?
I hope it was enough.

819
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,360
Must have been.
I hope, I hope it was enough to

820
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,360
erase the pain and.
The trauma.

821
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,560
This was one of the few episodes
written by all three of RIB.

822
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,560
Since how long?
It says the other three are

823
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,760
pilot, showmance and the
quarterback.

824
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,720
I'd seen that too, so.
Showmance is definitely the odd

825
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,440
man out there.
Yeah, that's the one, right?

826
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Yeah, what a weird like.
Yeah, one off to throw in there.

827
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,240
So I guess they felt the need to
be like, well it's a historic

828
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,120
episode, let's all get our names
on it and work together to write

829
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,400
Quinn fanfic.
Yeah.

830
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,880
I guess that's why it feels kind
of disjointed because like you

831
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,000
could say that the A plot is
like getting the Glee club back,

832
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,440
but that.
Except it's like over here.

833
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,320
Yeah, it's like every every.
So I divided my notes into the

834
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:05,720
diva off Glee club.
Quick the two or like 3 Britana

835
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,960
scenes and then miscellaneous
and miscellaneous is just like

836
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,720
April jokes.
I don't know where this fits

837
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:19,160
'cause she's just been saying
shit and it's like the A plot is

838
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,120
like technically trying to get
the Glee club back but really

839
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,760
it's just singing these songs
and whatever plot they fit into

840
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,960
and so every scene is like
divided into these.

841
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,520
I would actually say the A plot
is the deva off.

842
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,280
Yeah, I think so.
It's the one that gets the most

843
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,600
time.
With the least amount of

844
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,560
consequence like.
Who cares literally Canon wise.

845
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,920
Like they literally say like
this.

846
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,440
Voting has no bearing on
literally anything, ever.

847
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,360
On literally anything.
You still don't.

848
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,920
You're not in this Glee club
anymore.

849
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,680
You are gonna go back to New
York.

850
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,400
You're gonna go back to LA.
You're still not friends because

851
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,480
you've never been friends, no
matter what your little bathroom

852
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,040
conversation says.
No matter how many duets you did

853
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,240
together.
Right.

854
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,880
What the fuck are we wasting our
time on here for?

855
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,360
So do we talk about the dev off?
Let's go do it.

856
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,640
So, you know, Mercedes and
Rachel have to argue and fight

857
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,720
because that's what they do on
the show, whether or not it

858
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,360
makes sense.
Yeah, the episode just makes

859
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,640
them clash together for reasons.
They're going to re sing.

860
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,360
Is this the third time they do
it?

861
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,640
I think so.
I think no, I think it's the

862
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
second time.
I don't think they've done

863
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,160
defying gravity since the first
D Boff.

864
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,280
I think it's been referenced a
lot.

865
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,360
OK, they sing for good on stage
at the Gershwin.

866
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Maybe that's what you're
thinking of.

867
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,240
There is like another Wicked
episode, but I think this is the

868
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:49,120
second time they do define
gravity.

869
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,360
Also, this is the version of
Defying Gravity that was like

870
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,600
outselling the Wicked movie
versions for a bit because it

871
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,520
was like the only version with
no dialogue.

872
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,040
You can just sing it straight
through.

873
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,760
Yeah, I don't know if it's still
out selling, but this is the one

874
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,360
with Rachel, Kurt and Mercedes.
That's so fucking iconic.

875
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,480
So funny.
Yeah.

876
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,360
That's.
Great.

877
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,160
So yeah, they're gonna, they're
gonna diva off with Defying

878
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:18,040
Gravity because that's not
boring, I guess.

879
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Like, they still care so much
about the opinion of the Glee

880
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,400
club of who these like 10 people
thinks which one of them is

881
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,080
better at singing, not who's a
better person, not who's kinder,

882
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,360
not who's a better person in
general.

883
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,680
Who cares about that stuff?
Who cares about that stuff?

884
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Who's a better singer?
Which is so subjective 'cause

885
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,600
they're so different, right?
Anybody can tell that they're

886
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,480
just different types of singers.
They're also just like I was, I

887
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,400
want to complain about them
acting so childish with the

888
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,080
rules of the sing off and then
who gets to sing the song and

889
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,520
then you know, all of these
other different stupid details.

890
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,480
But they're literally 19.
They don't have fully developed

891
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,680
brains yet and they were never
the most level headed people to

892
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,520
begin with.
They're also.

893
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,400
Remixing it.
No, it's the same fucking

894
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,640
arrangement.
I am still just annoyed.

895
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,280
Yeah, yeah, this is so stupid.
It's the same song but worse

896
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,000
because again, none of them hit
the like high note like that was

897
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,040
the whole.
Thing.

898
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:38,840
Yeah, I have to admit, I I think
it may be because I'm so sick of

899
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,720
the never ending wicked
propaganda that's been happening

900
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:45,480
for the last like year and a
half.

901
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,800
But I fully was just like, I
just fast forwarded through the

902
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080
entire thing.
I was just like, I don't need

903
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,680
it.
I don't need it.

904
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,280
I don't need it.
I have I have Idina Menzel and

905
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,080
Kristen Chenoweth on my like.
I don't need this however.

906
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,520
I did.
Really love April's comments of

907
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,360
that song.
Should be on the Broadway.

908
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,520
Yeah, that was great.
Because Queen.

909
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:14,360
Angel the nod.
I listened to it only to hear

910
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,960
Kurt to see what they were gonna
do differently with him, which I

911
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,720
guess was to have him sing like
2 lines in the beginning and

912
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:23,960
then leave him out of the rest
of it.

913
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,960
Entirely.
I feel I also didn't get the

914
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,440
little voice over right before
where both Mercedes and Rachel

915
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,640
were like all my self esteem.
Depends on how well this goes.

916
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,480
I was just happy to be there, I
started.

917
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Singing and then Kurt singing.
I'm like, OK Kurt, self esteem

918
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,120
intact.
He didn't need a voice over to

919
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,840
let us know that.
He's fine because he didn't.

920
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,160
He beat Rachel with bring him
home like 3 weeks ago in

921
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,480
Showtime.
He's fine.

922
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:52,760
Yeah, they already had their
devo off.

923
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,600
He's like, that's settled.
Yeah, we're good.

924
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,920
Yeah, and then Shu pulls another
one of his bullshit maneuvers

925
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,600
where he's like, we're not
actually gonna vote.

926
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,000
Right now, we're gonna vote
tomorrow.

927
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,600
You guys are gonna sit on it.
Yeah.

928
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,360
And then they both have these
scenes of like, trying to

929
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,240
convince other people.
Why?

930
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,560
They should win.
And it's like, OK, then this

931
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,200
isn't about talent.
No, they're doing.

932
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,360
Which it never.
Won.

933
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,200
Right.
Santana has a rant right before

934
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,160
they start.
Right at some point she has a

935
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,800
rant.
She's very mean.

936
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,360
Yes.
But is she wrong?

937
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,400
No, no.
She says you've sold half the

938
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,840
people in the room down the
river more times than I can

939
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,200
count.
True.

940
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,680
I'm like, no, that's that's
true.

941
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,480
And the other half, you don't
even know their names.

942
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:50,640
And she's like, I know.
So true.

943
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,000
She points to Ryder.
And she's like, what?

944
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,320
Who?
Who's he?

945
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,520
Rick.
No.

946
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,520
No, sweetie, no.
In her defense, I sometimes also

947
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,160
forget his name.
Yes.

948
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,320
Also, during Santana's rant, I
noticed that there's a shot of

949
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,600
shoe in the background just kind
of like shaking his head.

950
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,160
And I was like, you could have
prevented this.

951
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,240
You don't get to sit.
You could, you don't get to

952
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,840
stand there and like shake your
head.

953
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:19,400
I know they're not your students
anymore, but you could have cut

954
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,120
Santana off.
Yeah.

955
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,960
You.
You didn't.

956
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,880
Like he never cuts her off when
he was when she was his student.

957
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Yes.
And but it's like, you don't get

958
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:37,320
to like be annoyed that somebody
is like actively being so

959
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,640
harmful if you're not doing
anything about it, Rachel says.

960
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,120
You're So go ahead.
You're so mean.

961
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,000
They do reveal that they stuffed
the ballot box at prom for prom

962
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,400
queen.
And you know what?

963
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,600
That.
Didn't surprise me at all.

964
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:56,600
Not at all.
Which I guess I thought they

965
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,960
already knew, but it was because
it's so embedded in the lore

966
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,720
already.
Like, Oh yeah, she didn't win

967
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,880
like.
But we we as the audience know.

968
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,960
But Rachel thinks she actually
won.

969
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,320
And so.
This whole time.

970
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,080
So it's this thing of like, you
know, a couple weeks ago it was

971
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,880
revealed to her that Kurt threw
that high note for his dad.

972
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,240
And so this so this, this like
diva off that she has built her

973
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:24,400
entire like self esteem on is
actually built on a lie.

974
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,120
And then this like other thing
that she built probably some

975
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,920
sort of like self esteem in
terms of like confidence or like

976
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,760
acceptance of, you know, the
school accepts her as a like

977
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,000
somebody who's worthy of winning
prom queen, even though she I

978
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,560
don't think she was running, but
also like as Finn's partner,

979
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,320
also a lie.
So it's like this like 1-2 punch

980
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,840
that have come within the same
like few months.

981
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,280
But then she says you're so
cruel Santana.

982
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,760
You're only doing this because
you're a lonely understudy and

983
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:05,360
I'm the lead.
I'm better than you lady like.

984
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Being an understudy for a
Broadway opening is like dog

985
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,000
food.
Like what?

986
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,560
The understudies work harder,
the swings work harder.

987
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:21,480
Also, that comment by itself
would get you dropped from a

988
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:26,120
storefront show in Chicago, let
alone being a Broadway lead.

989
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,360
Like, you don't, you don't get
to talk to people like that.

990
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:36,800
You also don't get to disrespect
people like that and still be

991
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,640
employable.
Granted, Peter Facinelli wasn't

992
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,840
here to like, hear that.
Daddy Cullen wasn't here to say

993
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,800
oh, you're fired.
But she like, wants out crying.

994
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:53,040
'Cause she's a victim.
Gosh.

995
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,360
She's a victim like, and then
Merced and then and then we go

996
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,640
to this bathroom scene.
Mercedes going to comfort her is

997
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,960
crazy.
She's a better person than I.

998
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:10,440
I hated this so much like this.
No the scene was garbage.

999
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,880
Like talking to her like she
isn't the asshole in this is

1000
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,360
terrible.
Talking to her also then

1001
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:23,080
Mercedes like names all of the
people who like are the voices

1002
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,480
of her imposter syndrome.
And Rachel's like, oh, I would

1003
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,400
hate to think that I was one of
your tormentors.

1004
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,400
Oh, you.
Were.

1005
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,320
Oh, you.
So were you, So were.

1006
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:39,480
Like, I was this the show trying
to gaslight us using the term

1007
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,640
vaguely incorrectly, but like,
was the show retconning us?

1008
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,360
Are they, it was the show being
like, no, no, no, no, no.

1009
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,920
You just don't understand the
relationship.

1010
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,360
Like, no, I understand it.
I get it.

1011
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,040
I watched it.
What are you trying to do here?

1012
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,360
I I saw how Rachel talked to
everybody.

1013
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,880
I saw what she did.
And also like, why isn't

1014
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,440
Mercedes is like like nobody
else was, nobody else was

1015
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,640
pounding down the door to like
talk Rachel off this ledge.

1016
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:13,440
And then like, I don't remember
a lot of like, Kurt's stance

1017
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,080
within the Santana Rachel feud,
but I feel like I would

1018
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,600
understand him, A, not wanting
to get in the middle and B,

1019
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,200
having more important things to
do.

1020
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,840
Like if you don't see your dad
all that often but you live with

1021
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,760
Rachel, anytime you're not in
the choir room, I just assume

1022
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:29,840
you're hanging out with your
dad.

1023
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:33,680
Or his fiance.
Or his fiance, I don't know.

1024
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Yeah, sounds, you know what
sounds like not something that

1025
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Rachel's butt monkey would do.
But nobody else was like on

1026
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,800
Rachel's side here.
Nobody else was, like, going to

1027
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,280
comfort her.
I would love to know if there

1028
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,640
was actually any reasoning for
why Mercedes would do it or if

1029
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,680
it was just like, no, this is
the Rachel show.

1030
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,520
I think it's the Rachel show and
I think it's another, I think

1031
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,960
it's a bit like Quinn where
we're not going to see Mercedes

1032
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,440
again.
So let's give her a scene,

1033
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,520
right?
And we've always used Mercedes

1034
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,040
to prop up Rachel.
So we have like, this is what we

1035
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:21,080
know how what to do with her.
Like the show is never going to

1036
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,720
put Mercedes above Rachel.
It was never going to end her

1037
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,760
time on screen with her
triumphing over Rachel.

1038
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,000
It's never going to end with
them voting for Mercedes over

1039
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,760
Rachel.
It was never going to end with

1040
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:39,000
Rachel running out in a huff and
Mercedes being like yeah she

1041
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,320
does suck ass like.
Sucks to suck.

1042
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,120
Sucks, which sucks.
I'm making it in LA without

1043
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,120
being a little bitch about it.
Which is.

1044
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,480
I wouldn't love to have seen
that.

1045
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,840
Though I am, I would have.
I know that watching TV is free,

1046
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:54,880
but I would have paid good
money.

1047
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,920
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1048
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1049
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1050
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