Glee on the Rocks: S5E9 - Gleenamies

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You're listening to Glee on the
Rocks.

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Hello.
Welcome back to Glee on the

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Rocks, a Phantom of the Rocks
podcast.

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I am Emily.
I'm Mandy.

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And I'm B.
And this is Season 5, Episode 9

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Frenemies, which is a real word.
The quick rundown of this

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episode is Artie and Tina's
friendship is put to the test as

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the two compete to speak at
McKinley High's closing

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ceremony.
Santana goes to audition for the

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role of Rachel's double in Funny
Girl, and it revives an old

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feud.
This episode aired February

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25th, 2014, which was after the
fall hiatus, which meant that

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audiences watched previously
unaired Christmas and then

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waited like more than two months
for the next episode.

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I remember that.
I remember that.

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Wait, I just remember the like
we had two months to process and

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attempt to scrub that episode
from our memories.

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Yes, Yep, that that's great
timing is let's let's have this

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bizarre episode that's not real
and then wait two months change

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time slots because this episode
goes back to Tuesday at 8:00 PM

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when it had been on a different
time slot so.

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So did it move back because it
was struggling in the other time

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slot?
Probably.

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I mean, ratings started going
down consistently after Curtain,

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Blaine made out.
Yeah.

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Which is fascinating.
I don't know.

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Explain that.
Yeah.

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So not that the.
Whatever.

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Yeah.
So I don't know, frenemies.

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Because Artie and Tina can't
just be friends forever.

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We have to have one more
friendship.

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Struggle for them I mean.
Just right, right, right from

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like the very start that that
annoyed me.

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Yeah, we can pick up, we can
start this episode with with

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Artie and Tina 'cause they're
like, I don't know, they've been

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there since the beginning.
Although so of Rachel and

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Santana, those are our two
fights in this.

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We have Rachel V Santana and
then RTV Tina and they start out

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reminiscing about staying
together as friends after having

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broken up because if everyone's
forgotten, they dated.

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It like, I love that they make a
point to say that they get

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together for like lunch every
Tuesday.

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Why couldn't we have seen that?
That would have been nice.

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It would have been really cute
to see them just sitting at the

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cafeteria somewhere.
Couldn't couldn't do that

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though, I think.
I don't know if this is true or

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not, and it can't be true until
someone in the writers room says

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it, but I wonder if this little
line about a Tuesday lunch

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tradition is just a call out to
the show moving back to a

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Tuesday time slot.
Oh.

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That would make sense.
But again, like you could just

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edit in like a little montage of
them.

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Yeah, I don't know that.
Would have been cute.

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Couldn't do it.
So Tina's gonna go to Brown, but

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she's been wait listed.
She's also applied to Ohio State

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and the vet school that she
apparently really doesn't want

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to go to, even though that was
her thing for like a whole

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episode.
And even though you need an

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undergraduate degree to go to
vet school.

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Yes, right.
OK.

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So.
There's also that.

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Little I yes.
OK.

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I was thinking like doctors
don't just start out at the

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like.
You don't.

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Yeah, OK.
And just go to Med school.

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Not in America, at least.
Which is where we are.

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I think it's Ohio, which is.
Different it's very true.

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So they they sang whenever I
call you friend to each other,

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which is.
Cute.

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That was cute.
This is a Kenny log in Stevie

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Nicks song.
Oh, that's cute.

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Yeah.
Can't really hate on it other

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than that.
It wasn't exceptional, but it

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wasn't like, bad.
No, it's like, yeah, it's just

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cute.
I don't know why they had to

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shit on Tina again by having her
get wait listed.

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Just let this bitch go to Brown
like and.

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Not catch a break.
She can't.

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Catch a break, so it's a fight
for everything.

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It's not even like they're
keeping her out for plot reasons

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like oh she's gonna end up at
Niata too, right?

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No, this was just random.
Tina can't get anything.

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No, just let her succeed
somewhere.

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Becky marches in to shit on
their parade yet again because

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Sue wants to see them in her
office because it's time to

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award senior class
valedictorian, and the two of

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them are tied at the head of the
class because they have the same

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GPA.
Perfect attendance, which is

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patently untrue.
Yeah, I'll never forget

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Sebastian calling her Tina
Blowin Wang and that she was out

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with Asian bird flu.
Like that's an iconic line from

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the show.
Yes, and Artie was out for at

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least an episode somewhere.
Like, they've both been out, so

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maybe they have.
Maybe they have the same

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attendance, but not perfect
attendance.

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So in true Glee fashion, they're
gonna settle it via competition

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to deliver, and then they're
gonna, like, deliver their

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speeches to a panel to decide.
And Sue makes it sound from the

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very beginning like this is a
joke, like a farce, like she's

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like a panel of idiots and and
warns just flip a coin, who even

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cares?
Flip a coin.

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Totally.
Yeah.

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Or make them like break dance
for it.

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Amazing, actually, you know.
Pull out the disco floor again.

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Yeah.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the

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disco floor.
Where do you think all those

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sets go that they must pay
extraordinary amounts of money

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for?
Like did the next, I think that

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set specifically was from
Saturday Night Fever.

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Was it Sue's?
Did Sue own it?

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Like do the next Gen.
Glee clubs get to use all that

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shit like?
Like where do they store it?

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Yeah, underneath the school,
like like 20 years from now, is

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someone gonna open a door and
there's just a jungle set and

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dusty Lady Gaga costumes and.
It'll be like the equivalent of

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finding like a mass grave,
except it's just like all the

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shit the Glee club was like.
Yeah no, we only needed this for

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one random rehearsal.
Didn't even see a like stage

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performance.
It wasn't even competition, it

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was just a random performance.
It's just tool and streamers

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lights.
And it was like just for Mr.

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Shu, it's not even like they got
to perform for anybody else.

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Here's where our school's budget
went.

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Literally.
That'd be a fun but like one off

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episode.
But Sue does warn them against

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breaking out into song because
she does know them very well and

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I can't see that happening.
That absolutely would have

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happened.
Yeah, yeah.

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So their speeches are that and
there's not.

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I did anticipate there being a
lot more drama in this because

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they're like the title of the
episode is Frenemies, but Tina's

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written a speech that she wants
him to drop out to give her

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valedictorian because she feels
like she hasn't done anything.

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She hasn't gotten anything.
When of course she was just prom

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queen like 3 episodes ago or
something which I.

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Think does Artie call that out
or?

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He does, yeah.
And she says Brown doesn't like

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prom Queens, so they think
they're vapid or something.

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So that wouldn't be a plus for
her.

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But I don't think that's how a
wait list works.

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Like I don't think you go back
to the school and say, hey, I

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became valedictorian.
Can you bump me up the list?

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Or maybe it does, I don't know.
I don't work.

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I read.
I know you can appeal to schools

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for like more scholarships once
you're admitted, but I don't

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know how the wait list thing
works.

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Yeah, can you like submit more
information to try and get

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yourself bummed off?
Like, hey, I, I volunteered all

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summer with a, a animal shelter.
Please help me.

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Right.
But yeah.

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And I, I did like his line that
everyone was convinced between

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junior and senior year that
she'd gone insane calling out

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her just disastrous character
arc.

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But Tina does go too far by
telling him that Kitty could

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never love him and that it was a
last ditch effort effort to be

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popular by dating Mckinley's
biggest bitch.

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I was like, that's, I mean, true
but but yeah.

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And this feels like another
piece of Tina's characterization

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where when necessary, she's too
much.

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She's like too mean.
And then will turn around and

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cry about it when people call
her on it.

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Yeah, it's like the lack of
consistency because I feel like

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there are times when she's just
as mean as like Santana, but

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Santana gets to own it, whereas
Tina is not really allowed to

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own anything.
Yes, consistently.

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Like when she was running for
prom queen and she was horrible

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to everybody and then she wins
and it's like, oh, I'm so sorry.

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I was mean.
I just really wanted this.

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Like, well, I don't think that's
how you get to treat your

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friends or fellow classmates
without repercussions.

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And they they call that out in
this episode.

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And it's still like you, you did
just did just yell at your one

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of your best friends and it's
all fine later.

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So what are we doing?
But yeah, so we do actually have

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Glee club still, because as Shu
calls out, it's coming down to

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the wire to make a big decision
because there are two solos at

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Nationals, which as we've
discussed before, is maybe

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something they should have done
six months ago.

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And he calls out that Blaine was
voted the new Rachel, so he gets

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1.
The new Rachel was like two

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seasons ago.
One season ago.

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It was beginning of season 4 so.
That would have been.

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Which is the beginning of this
same school year.

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It's the same, but we just
haven't mentioned it since then.

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But wouldn't that have been
sectionals solo, not nationals?

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Well, I guess they're just
saying that if anybody gets a

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solo, it's going to be Rachel.
So if you're the new Rachel,

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then if there's a solo, you're
getting it.

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But they also said in Puppet
Master he gets the solo not

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because he's the new Rachel.
But different writer on this

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episode, so they had a different
rationale.

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Tina nominates herself already
wants to compete for it so I

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guess because they can't have a
sing off during their speech, a

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thong, there's a sing off here
where they sing my love, you're

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never gonna get it they're.
Never.

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Gonna get it.
Which I thought was a bad choice

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for a song.
Yeah, yeah.

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I don't, I don't know what a
better song would have been, but

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this, this one felt weird.
I think they sang it just for

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the never gonna get it line.
As in like you're never gonna

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get this solo.
I'm gonna get it, but like.

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Yeah, yeah, I mean it.
Yes, it just might.

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When it started, I was like, oh,
right, this.

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I mean cool, but also weird.
Song choices in this episode

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were all over the place.
Yes, they yes.

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It doesn't make for a good.
Now that's what I call Glee.

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Like this episode album, right?
Like when you know, there every

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episode there was like, this is
this episode's album.

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Like it's not good.
You wouldn't put this one on

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repeat.
You'd be like you'd take a song

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or two out of it and put it into
your own mix.

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But this is where, well, shoe
looks like he's gonna break them

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up, but then he's like, it's
time for a breakdown.

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Like if you could go away and
leave them to it, that would be

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fine.
But Tina pushes Artie out of his

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chair.
Yeah, that was a little, little

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too far that.
Was a little too much and

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everyone runs to the rescue,
but.

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Yeah, it's one of those things
that's uncomfortable to watch.

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Yes, it is and I, which is good,
like take that moment and make

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it important, but like where's
where is the the payoff or the

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like Tina has to pay for some of
these things like we do like

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her, but you don't get to push
your friend out of his

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wheelchair.
Well, I guess that's what spurs

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her to then when they do their
speeches, her speech is actually

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just please pick Artie.
Yes.

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So she's like, I've had a change
of heart now that I was faced

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with how horrible I am seeing me
push my friend out of his

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wheelchair.
Yeah, they're.

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They're both wearing speech off.
They're both wearing red, which

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I assumed was a callback to
Season 1's Don't Stop Believing.

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Oh, there's a lot of people
wearing red at the end when they

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sing Breakaway.
A lot of people are in red.

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I don't, I don't know what the
reference was.

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A lot of red.
The judges are Beast, Figgins

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and Shoe which is like the least
unbiased.

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Where was Stunner Brett?
I wanted.

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I wanted like some randos up
there, especially with the

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promise.
That it would be like a panel of

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idiots like with the recurring
characters on that show they

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they could have pulled a few.
Yeah, instead it's just like the

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normal adults who do all the
adult things at the school.

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OK, it's.
Just like the people who are

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already getting paid for the
episode.

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Yeah, he's not Beast, but she
was already.

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So I did it.
Kind of like everyone.

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Absolutely no one's favorite new
direction.

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Tina Cohen Chang.
Yeah, that was funny actually,

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'cause then I was thinking of
the Chapel, Ron, like your

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favorite artist, favorite
artist.

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And I was like, aw, nobody's
favorite New Direction.

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That's rough.
So I don't remember because high

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school was so long ago and I I
just don't care.

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But how long is a valedictorian
speech?

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So I can tell you in intimate
detail how these speeches get

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when at my school, but it was
very atypical.

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So like caveat there.
Did you just?

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Sing off I wish.
So at my school, and I don't

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exactly know why it started but
I have a suspicion, but everyone

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who had a four point O GPA
unweighted.

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They didn't look at weighted
Gpas, they just looked at

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unweighted 4 point O.
Every single person was a

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valedictorian.
Which is stupid.

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Most schools don't do that.
Most schools don't do that.

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I think it was probably done the
year that like a tornado hit our

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high school as like A, you know,
bouncing back from adversity

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thing.
And then they just, they didn't

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know when to stop because then I
graduated like four years later

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and they were still doing it.
I don't know if they do it

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today, so, but obviously now you
have a whole team of

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valedictorians who all want to
give a speech, right?

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So they had four opportunities
for speeches. 1 was a welcome,

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one was the typical one that you
do like right before or right

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after.
You get the degrees where you're

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like say a bunch of
inspirational stuff.

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And then I forget what the other
two were, but they all of us who

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wanted to do a speech put our
names in a hat, literally.

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And then they drew names in the
order of the speeches.

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And so I got to do the welcome
speech, and I remember it could

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only be like 5 or 8 minutes,
something like that.

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Like I had a time limit.
OK, It was definitely 10.

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Yeah, but.
Even if it's 8 minutes, the

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panel has to sit there for 8
minutes listening to a speech

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for each of them.
Yeah.

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And then and then I was
thinking, so we're listening to

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her speech and it's only a few
minutes long.

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Like that's not going to be but.
Also, that is not the speech

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they would give at no, like they
didn't write the speech they

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would give at graduation.
They just wrote a speech to tell

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them who to vote for and they
both said vote for the other

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person.
So what were the parameters of

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the speech of we didn't have
enough rules?

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Yeah, we need some
clarification.

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Yeah, Yeah, we want.
Glee to be accurate.

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I would just have read them
saying at that point I was like,

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whatever, yeah.
But yeah, so she talks about

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Tina, talks about how Artie
changed her and told her how to

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be herself and talks about her
per fake stutter in the

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beginning of the season and.
Her goth style.

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Which apparently none of that
was really her, although it

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would have been kind of fun to
have a goth character.

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Yeah.
Like that actually had been

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Tina's vibe, just not the
stutter, I mean, or having a

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stutter that was real, like
cool.

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And then Artie talks about
experiencing diversity, but also

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Tina getting slushied a prom.
And then both of them withdraw

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their nominations and nominate
each other because friends.

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I I don't know that Tina earned
her nomination from Artie.

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Yeah, You know, her behaviour
was this one was like a very

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quick turn around if you think
about the number of minutes

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spent in the episode, because,
you know, the storyline is

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broken up throughout the episode
and interspersed with Santana

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and Rachel's bullshit.
So it stretches a little more

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than what we're doing here, but
it's still pretty quick of them

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yelling at each other, Tina
pushing him out of his

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wheelchair, and then being like,
I'm so sorry, forgive me.

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Yeah, like the next scene is the
speeches, like after he of them.

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Yeah, so all.
Of this happens literally like

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time wise in the show within
like a day or two, right?

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I think so.
They're pulled out, They're

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pulled out of lunch on Tuesday
and they give the speeches on

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Friday.
So yeah.

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Yeah, and then it turns out it's
a tie anyway and they're gonna

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be Co saledictorians.
Is that what she says?

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I think she said salutatorians
like she's she's demoting them.

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And the number three student is
gonna be elevated 1 Mr. Blaine

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Warbler Anderson who?
Else could it be?

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And and it does like prompt the
best line in the episode, which

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is what it says.
I know this feels like a humble

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brag, but sometimes I feel like
things are just handed to me.

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Like how Mr. Shoe just gets me
more solos than anyone.

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I love it.
And he's just so sweet and

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sincere about it.
He's like, I'm so sorry, guys.

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It was cute.
Blaine had been very absent for

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the whole episode.
I was thinking that.

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And then I was like, of course I
loved it.

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I thought that was genuinely
funny and very like Glee

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characteristic like.
It absolutely was.

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Like, that's the kind of
lampshade of, oh, actually, it's

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going to be Blaine all along.
That was funny.

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And then he's like, OK, I'm
going to sing during my

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valedictorian speech because I'm
that guy, but I want Tina and

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Artie to sing with me.
So it's going to be all of us.

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Oh, Blaney days.
I, I gagged like, but I was

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like, oh God, like it.
It physically recoiled.

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I couldn't.
Yeah.

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So I guess everyone's happy in
the end.

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Probably not, actually.
I'm sure it actually still kind

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of hurts Tina and Artie that
they're not going to be

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valedictorian.
If they could have Co

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salutatorians, why not have Co
valedictorians?

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They were literally tied.
I know.

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They could have just done that
from the start.

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I mean, they did The funny
thing, which was giving it to

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Blaine like that is funny, so I
can't be that mad about it.

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But like Sue, you're just making
shit up anyways, who cares?

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The chaos machine, Yeah.
Sue is secretly like Blaine's

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biggest fan.
Oh 100% I mean.

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Just engineered this whole thing
to give it to him.

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I mean, later on she gets, she
puts the thing in the elevator

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to get him back with Kurt.
Like she's all along just wants

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him to be happy.
Yep, big old clean shipper

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everything.
So so I.

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Guess we have to talk about Part
B, Plot B Santana V Rachel.

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And so they're hanging out at
Star.

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Oh my God, Starlight Diner.
Can I remember Starlight?

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I can never remember the real
name.

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Starlight, I think you're.
Right, and I tend to default to

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the real diner's name.
Santana would be the worst

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waitress in the country.
I she doesn't have the patience

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for it.
She doesn't have the personality

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for it.
I think she would be a better

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bartender.
Yes, you know, and take less.

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You don't have to like deal with
racist.

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Well, you do, but not to the
same.

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You can talk back a bit more I
think.

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She needs to be at like a local
dive bar dealing with like, you

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know, scruffy New York people,
not in like the most touristy

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place you could possibly be in,
dealing with a lady using

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extremely poor Spanish.
Saying that they didn't know

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there were Mexicans in Ohio.
Just fucking racist girl no.

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Yeah, she needs to be able to 86
patrons out of her bar.

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Yep, just because they annoy
her.

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So she's like bummed about being
known as the yeastestat girl,

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which I think is awesome because
she's what, 1819 and has already

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had a national commercial?
Yeah, that's that's like a huge

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level of success by anyone
else's standards except for

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someone whose roommate got the
lead in a Broadway play.

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Yes, yeah.
And she's also feeling guilty

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about being friends with Rachel
now because they hated each

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other in high school, which is a
weird measure because isn't

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that, like, everyone's
experience is that you didn't

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like someone at one point and
then, like, maybe you kind of do

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later?
It may be that there was a lot

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more animosity between them in
high school, which was only six

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months ago.
Yeah, and they've.

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Never had a break in their
relationship like they never

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they never took time like
natural time apart to become

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adults.
Also compounded on top of that,

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they would both have the grief
of Finn.

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Yes.
Like it did to different levels

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but like Finn and Santana still
have their own thing.

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They did.
They sure did.

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Yeah.
So it's, I don't know, it's

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another one of those kinds of
conversations and Glee where

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you're like, say more, Yeah, say
say more about that.

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And she, you know, she also
feels like she's failing in New

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York, which she's been there a
couple months.

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It's not failing.
You booked a national

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commercial.
What the fuck are you talking

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about?
Like.

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Live in New York for years
scrounging by trying to like

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make it in these industries.
You're like, you have a job, you

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have a place to live, and you
did.

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You're chill.
Like, I get it, you're but

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chill.
Rachel, I guess, tries to pick

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up her spirits by saying you
need some good old pampering.

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I'm going to be on the cover of
a New York magazine.

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I was like, fucking Rachel shut
up.

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But she is.
So.

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Backhanded, so backhanded, but
she is somehow going to get

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Rachel A or Santana a gig at the
photo shoot, which I was like,

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how are you?
You don't decide that.

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Apparently she's got enough
influence to do so, because she

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does, I don't think.
So however they have this photo

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shoot because Rachel's going to
be Fanny Bryce and it's a weird

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photo shoot of her dressed up as
Fanny, but but the models

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involved are dressed like models
so.

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Like what?
I don't know, just the idea that

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she would get the cover.
Yeah, I mean like interview with

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Playbill.
Yeah.

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Like no.
It has to be flashier.

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Yeah, so Santana goes and the
two of them sing brave.

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Sara Bareilles is brave.
While Rachel takes the photos,

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Santana, like, is involved
during a dream sequence, you

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know, of her like, in this
gorgeous dress, doing kind of

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some cool choreography with
Rachel and the models on the

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set.
Again, the lyrics were

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interesting between the two of
them.

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Again, like I get why they used
this song but not like it was

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80% the right song.
Yeah.

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Also, I think this was like a
super popular song in that that

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year I.
Wasn't really OK, that would

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make more sense too 'cause I
didn't really love this for

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them.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I looked it up 'cause
there was that other episode

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where they were singing music
that actually wasn't released

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yet in the timeline of the show,
but it was released in 2013.

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So yeah, once again, just a
popular current song that they

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wanted to sell.
And it wasn't even that

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creative, like no spoilers, but
they'd sing a song later that I

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00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,400
was like, wow, that like
arrangement was super creative

453
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,520
and it was very like cool.
But the Brave was just kind of

454
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,120
like sounded like.
The radio version I talk about

455
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,360
every breath you take, yes.
Yeah.

456
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,320
That looked, that looked cool,
yeah.

457
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,760
It was actually really good, but
Brave was just like, Nah Nah,

458
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,640
right?
Just them singing the song as

459
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,960
is.
Yup, just like karaoke.

460
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,760
Yeah, Glee Karaoke, Yeah.
So, you know, they, they do

461
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,920
their thing.
So I I want to stay with the two

462
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,120
of them because we also have
Kurt and Elliot as like our our

463
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,040
background.
C Plot.

464
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,680
The C plot at the same time
Rachel is like nervous because

465
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,920
they are auditioning to or they
are going to audition the

466
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,560
understudy for Fanny and that's
insane because you do that at

467
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,400
the same time that you cast all
your other roles.

468
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,960
They would not be rehearsing the
play and only now casting the

469
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,040
understudies so.
Also throughout the episode,

470
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,200
even though she has told no
about this, she keeps insisting

471
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,840
she doesn't need one.
Like so they're really gonna be

472
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,240
like, Oh well you know, that's
fine, we'll have no insurance

473
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,960
for this.
Like multi $1,000,000

474
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,200
production.
Yeah, it's like I, I'm just not

475
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,840
gonna get sick.
Like, OK, but also like, no.

476
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,120
And she's supposed to know
everything about Broadway.

477
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,120
Like, you do know that that's
not how that works.

478
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,200
Like, I know you're jealous and
nervous that they're going to

479
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200
take over for you, but that's
actually their job.

480
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,320
Is that when you can't make it,
they they take over for you for

481
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,400
a day.
But she's.

482
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,480
So convinced she would never,
never not sing a show of funny

483
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,880
girls.
She'll never get sick and she'll

484
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,520
never get injured and she'll
never have ATV executive

485
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040
approach her about a television
show with her name on it.

486
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Ever.
And leave the entire production

487
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040
in the lurch.
She would never, never.

488
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,040
I thought the first woman
auditioning for the understudy

489
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,160
was like that.
I hate, I hate it so much.

490
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Like she would not be there.
No, it happened also when Rachel

491
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,680
was auditioning.
It was the same thing.

492
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,200
They had people who like
legitimately could not sing

493
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,200
auditioning.
And I don't even have to be

494
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,440
involved with Broadway or be in
New York to know that.

495
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,560
No, you're talking about every
single every Rachel Berry from

496
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,320
every high school in America and
every other country is in New

497
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,960
York auditioning for every
single role that comes up, every

498
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,520
understudy, every everything.
Like, that's so just completely.

499
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,080
I can't even suspend my
disbelief that someone who

500
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,440
literally cannot carry a tune in
a bucket would make it on the

501
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,520
stage to audition for an
understudy for a Broadway show.

502
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640
Like, it doesn't make any sense.
Not even.

503
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,280
How common are open auditions
like that anyway for like the

504
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,600
understudy of like a lead role?
That's true.

505
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080
You'd think it would be like
people who get called in or

506
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,040
something.
Yeah, yeah.

507
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,880
Especially for a show this big.
And and as you, Emily, who does

508
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,560
have some experience in this,
tell us more.

509
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,120
I did not do a lot of casting.
OK, because you hire a casting

510
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,240
person.
You hire a casting office who

511
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,240
specializes in knowing who is
available, knowing whose

512
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,160
contracts are coming up from
other shows.

513
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,800
If you're trying to like steal
someone from another show, if

514
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,120
you want like a star to help
with your ticket sales.

515
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,240
You also have to take on the
cost of a celebrity because

516
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,880
they're going to get paid more
than the minimum, which sucks

517
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,120
because that increases your
weekly running cost.

518
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,320
And then they may want royalties
on top of that.

519
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,160
So you have to know that it's
just going to be more expensive,

520
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,760
but then maybe you can charge
more for a ticket and maybe

521
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:29,880
you'll just have better ticket
sales.

522
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,720
So it's like a balance of is it
worth it to put in a celebrity

523
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440
and pay them more and
potentially get more revenue?

524
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,480
So you have your casting office
out there helping you actually

525
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,200
book people because it's a
whole, it's a whole time

526
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,400
consuming thing to to audition.
They're just getting people in,

527
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,160
getting them through, getting
the producers lined at like,

528
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,320
because not every, not every
producer on a, because there's

529
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,040
like a billion producers on a
Broadway show will see the, the

530
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040
auditions.
There's just you can't.

531
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200
There's no time, which is why
they're taped.

532
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,800
OK.
Because like, you can't just, no

533
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,000
one's schedule is going to line
up for everyone to be in the

534
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,720
room at the same time.
And then there's like callbacks

535
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,400
and more callbacks.
And yeah, so and there's

536
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,920
probably open auditions for the
first couple rounds for

537
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,120
something like this, but also
people who are brought in

538
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,040
specifically because you're
casting company, you're casting

539
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,320
office wants them there.
And I think there's also union

540
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040
rules that you have to have open
auditions for things.

541
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,640
And then you're going to have,
you're going to have your

542
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,760
understudies, you're going to
have swings available for the

543
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,040
roles.
So like someone who knows

544
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,000
multiple tracks in case the lead
and the understudy goes down,

545
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,040
then you have someone who can
swing a different track.

546
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,760
So how realistic is their
timeline that Santana would

547
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,800
have?
No.

548
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,360
OK, I was like.
Vastly no.

549
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,280
It would not be a next day.
You have the role, no?

550
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Well, in the Gleavers, everyone
else who auditioned literally

551
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,320
could not say what the fuck
because you're.

552
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320
You're casting your understudy
as the same time you're casting

553
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,000
everyone else, because they have
to learn it at the same time as

554
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,120
everyone else.
That makes sense.

555
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,440
They have to know the
choreography and the music, and

556
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,680
you have to get them costumes at
the same time as everyone else.

557
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,800
You can't just make Santana her
costume four months later.

558
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,160
Like, no, you can't put her in
to learn it after the.

559
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,920
I mean, sure, like if something
happens, if a disaster happens,

560
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,920
you can bring new.
But that's why you have swings,

561
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800
right?
Like you've got people in the

562
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,840
show at the same time who can
step in last minute.

563
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,360
Like that happened last year or
two years ago or something with

564
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,040
Wicked.
They brought someone in from

565
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,680
like who hadn't done the show in
a year or something because so

566
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,200
many people went down with
COVID.

567
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, that was amazing.

568
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Yeah.
Anyway.

569
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,280
But no, this makes absolutely no
sense.

570
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,560
But it's Glee.
But yeah, so Santana busts in on

571
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,120
the audition to do don't and
does don't rain on my parade,

572
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,320
and she comes down the walkway
like it's nationals, which I

573
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,760
thought was amazing and deserved
of her, frankly.

574
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Yeah, and she sings an amazing
cover of Don't Rain on My

575
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,480
Parade.
Don't.

576
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,720
Tell me not to live just
sitting.

577
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,320
Butter Life's candy and the
sun's a bowl of butter.

578
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,040
Don't bring her out a clap to
rain on my parade.

579
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,680
Don't.
Tell.

580
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,400
Me.
Not.

581
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,840
To.
Fly.

582
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:08,320
All of her choices were so cool
and interesting and complex and

583
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,680
she had runs all over the place
and she had so much stage

584
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320
presence and I was like, Oh my
God, that was amazing.

585
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,840
Because she's not just doing
Barbara's version, right, Which

586
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
is what Rachel Leah always do
and.

587
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,840
I mean, I guess it has served
Leah well, but yes, it.

588
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,200
Was very.
Refreshing to get a different

589
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200
take on it.
From Glee, Totally.

590
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,440
The Rupert obviously loves her
and I did like his line of like

591
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,840
1 high school produced both of
you, yeah.

592
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,520
I'm glad they pointed that out
because that's ridiculous.

593
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,120
Me like wait till you see the
rest of the high school.

594
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,600
Obviously Rachel is pissed about
Santana singing Don't Rain on My

595
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Parade and Kurt's like you don't
own this song.

596
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Which she says basically yes I
do.

597
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,440
I have a will that once Barbra
Streisand dies, it will be mine.

598
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,520
Yeah, she's really like, oh,
she's not exaggerating, but

599
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,600
she's really in that like,
heightened state of right

600
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,800
activated.
Yeah.

601
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920
She's when you're having an
argument with someone and you're

602
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,120
just like, you're saying things
that maybe you don't quite

603
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,680
believe, But because she.
She's arguing that Fannie Bryce

604
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,680
is in New York too, so only she
can play it.

605
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Yeah.
And that someone who is.

606
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Interesting as an argument.
She's really telling Santana

607
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,520
that you're not white, so you
can't play this.

608
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,160
Yeah.
And I was like, well, that is a

609
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,840
choice to say to somebody, but
I'll write 1 of Santana's

610
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,480
arguments back.
Is that every step you take in

611
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920
the city is fueled by the hate
we gave you.

612
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,640
I was like, yeah.
I, I, I agree with that.

613
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,760
I will say before, like when the
show even started, Rachel was

614
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,880
pretty driven.
She was, we do like.

615
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,400
That's also I assume that season
1 Rachel was.

616
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,720
I mean, she was already
receiving a lot of hate, yes.

617
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,400
We just got to know the people
hating her throughout the course

618
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,720
of the show.
Yes, they were like bullying her

619
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,640
on Myspace and shit.
So, like, I'll give her that

620
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,560
one, yeah.
Yeah, the freshman at McKinley

621
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,199
did not like her anyway.
I thought it was interesting

622
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,000
that Santana was like, yeah,
Quinn and Brittany, like all

623
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,520
three of us didn't like you, but
like, I was leading the Rachel

624
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,199
hate train.
I don't agree with that because

625
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,679
like.
Yeah, that's retcon.

626
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,560
Quinn and Finn were like.
A Yeah.

627
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Significant storyline.
Yeah, that felt like, well,

628
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,760
Santana was the one in the
scene, so she is the.

629
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,719
One right she just it just came
off as her provoking Rachel just

630
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,639
saying mean stuff that's like
not true just to like make her

631
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:43,159
more angry, which like is a
choice that Santana often makes

632
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,960
just to be nasty but.
Accurate to her character.

633
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,679
Yeah, maybe.
Something she was trying to work

634
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,920
beyond though, so.
Do you really think Rachel was

635
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,040
like being mean when she invited
Santana to be a part of the New

636
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,640
York Magazine photoshoot?
I'm gonna say yes, but

637
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,800
subconsciously because I think
that Rachel only views Santana

638
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,920
as a friend when she's not
threatened by her, right?

639
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,720
So like it was like, let me do
this friendly thing that I can

640
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,680
feel confident doing because I
know that you are several steps

641
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,360
below me, so I can afford to be
generous.

642
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,440
I would agree with that, yeah.
Like I, yes, I'm comfortable

643
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,360
with you here because I'm
upfront and you are behind.

644
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,440
Yeah.
Right.

645
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,280
So like, in Rachel's, like,
conscious mind, she's like, I'm

646
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,160
such a great friend.
And in her subconscious mind,

647
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
she's like, this is great.
I can be in.

648
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:40,160
Santana can see me in the Fanny
costume, like being featured in

649
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640
this photo shoot, which is what
I deserve.

650
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,240
And she needs to be reminded
that I deserve this.

651
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Yeah.
Also, Santana was really like

652
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,840
feeding her ego in like a nice
friend way.

653
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,360
Like an amazing thing happened
to you.

654
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,840
I'm gonna let you know that
that's a really amazing thing.

655
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,960
So that probably like, would
help convince Rachel that she's

656
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,600
actually doing the nice thing.
Yeah.

657
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:09,200
And you know, it can be very
hard to uplift your friends

658
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,520
during their successes, even
when you really like them.

659
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,080
So when it's someone that you
don't really like and mildly

660
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,720
tolerate, it sucks.
I did like Santana's honesty

661
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:25,040
with that too because like even
as Rachel is like telling her

662
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,360
nice things, she's like I can't
remember the exact line but

663
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,360
she's not going to pretend she's
not jealous but she's also

664
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,560
genuinely seems like she's
trying to be happy for.

665
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Yes, yeah.
I think she is trying to be

666
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,280
happy for Rachel as like a a
piece of her new life.

667
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,960
But she does say, like, you
can't handle that I'm better

668
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,040
than you.
And I think that's something

669
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,360
that she often believes that she
is as talented, if not more.

670
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,360
And I think that's something the
show doesn't always believe.

671
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,960
I think the show thinks that
Rachel is the most talented

672
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,160
person in the cast in the IT.
Would be nice if we'd gotten to

673
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,120
see more of other characters
really feeling themselves.

674
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,160
Yeah.
It's like maybe Blaine.

675
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Right, because it as soon as the
show and I'm sure there are

676
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,320
people all over Reddit who are
like, what are you talking

677
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,200
about?
But as soon as you have Santana

678
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,520
coming down the walkway doing
Don't Rain on my parade, you're

679
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,680
kind of like, OK.
I mean, is Rachel the best

680
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,120
person for this show?
Yeah, 'cause like, come on.

681
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,640
Yeah.
I, they're my one of my issues

682
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,960
with I guess it has to be Leah
because she's the voice behind

683
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,360
it.
But like, I don't find her tone

684
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,560
appealing when she sings.
And I find Santana Naya's tone

685
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,320
appealing.
Like, it's nice to listen to.

686
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,320
Yeah, it's.
Easier to listen to to me.

687
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,680
Yeah, like I don't know, I mean
I can see what makes Leah an

688
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,800
amazing like Broadway like like
project everything out type of

689
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,960
performer.
Sure, on TVI like Nya's style

690
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,840
better.
Yeah, I feel like when I'm

691
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,600
watching Santana perform a song,
I believe the emotion behind it

692
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,920
in a way that I don't believe
Rachel's emotions behind it.

693
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,960
I feel like she is acting
performance.

694
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,080
Yeah.
And Nya Santana is feeling an

695
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,840
emotion.
I was just so good.

696
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,160
Yeah, but I think the show is
always telling the audience

697
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,760
Rachel is the best.
Yeah, yeah.

698
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,080
I mean, you're definitely
supposed to believe that Rachel

699
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,240
is is the one who's going to
come out ahead at the end.

700
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Right.
And I'm just like I not not for

701
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200
me.
And I don't know that the the

702
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,960
show gives stand some options,
right?

703
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,640
Like you get you get to be a
Blaine Stan for a while.

704
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,280
You got some some Tantana, but
not right now.

705
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,520
There was a little Marley time,
but according to the the trivia

706
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120
like she doesn't really sing on
her own again.

707
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,800
Yeah.
Was she even in this episode?

708
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,200
I guess I don't even remember
seeing her.

709
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,040
Yeah.
This was not a newbie episode

710
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,360
at.
All.

711
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,240
No, this was all.
Very anti newbie, you're right.

712
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,360
Yeah, this was all.
What do we call them?

713
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Oldies.
Oldies Ogs, Probably.

714
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,600
Yeah, the Ogs.
Classically classic.

715
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,880
So yeah, I don't know.
It just when, when the show is

716
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,560
like this person is the best.
I'm like, I don't know, maybe?

717
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,120
There's no evidence that she's
the best.

718
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,160
They they put people in to
audition against her who

719
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,760
literally cannot sing on tune.
You know they.

720
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,360
Yeah, exactly.
And then they put someone like

721
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Santana, you're like, oh,
actually though, yeah, you kind

722
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,760
of like proved against the
point.

723
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,840
You've fucked yourself over here
'cause yeah, yeah.

724
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,920
It's annoying because Rachel can
be best for the role without

725
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,560
being just the best person ever.
Like she doesn't have to be like

726
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,400
literally the most talented
singer I know.

727
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,760
That happens all the time in
Broadway shows where they, yeah,

728
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,280
hire like the celebrity instead
of maybe a very talented unknown

729
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,960
who really could sing better.
But they got to do what's best

730
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,760
for the show.
So it's like, sure, maybe Rachel

731
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,160
looked the part the best and
could could carry the the music

732
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,880
like and could wear the costumes
or whatever.

733
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Like she, she doesn't have to be
like this indisputable superior

734
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,040
being to everybody else.
And the show is always

735
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,800
presenting it as like, no, she
has to be the best period like

736
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,320
that.
That's the only way she can

737
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,840
function.
And that's the only way the

738
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,760
world makes sense.
And it's like, it's just, it

739
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
gets annoying.
It's very annoying because no

740
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080
one else gets that treatment.
It's just like Rachel's special.

741
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,560
And that's what this show has
always been about.

742
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,280
It's like this one specific
person is so special.

743
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,560
And I thought Glee club was out,
everybody being special.

744
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,840
Yeah, being a part of something
special makes you special and

745
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680
all that.
Doesn't seem to be the case.

746
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,600
So yeah, Santana does get a call
that she's the understudy, so I

747
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,880
guess that first girl didn't
make it.

748
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,960
Sad for her she had such a
promising career she.

749
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Really did we'll see her
somewhere.

750
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:23,840
So they they like, go right to
the the theater and Santana's

751
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,080
like putting on makeup or
something.

752
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,120
And Rachel Bustin and she's
like, you may not know this

753
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,240
because you haven't been
interested in Broadway, but the

754
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,080
star gets her own vanity.
And I was like, OK, the evidence

755
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,800
in the show is that Santana is
interested in Broadway,

756
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,360
considering how many Broadway
show tunes she has sung over the

757
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,240
years, right?
So fuck off.

758
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Also, if nothing else, she's had
to listen to Rachel sing so many

759
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,440
over the years.
She's probably just absorbed so

760
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,160
much knowledge through like,
osmosis.

761
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Yeah, I think she probably knows
plenty, and unless your name was

762
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,080
already on the door, maybe she
just didn't know.

763
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,200
Who knows?
Her name is on the door later in

764
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,880
the episode.
So I think so much of this

765
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,800
hinges on Santana, like
provoking Rachel or or Rachel

766
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,920
letting herself be provoked.
I think maybe more accurately.

767
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,960
So they just had to put as much
shit in there as possible.

768
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,920
It's like, see, she's being
provoked.

769
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,320
She's totally rational in this
decision.

770
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,640
Like, I don't think the show
portrays Rachel is making a bad

771
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,440
decision, you know?
From here, towards the end of

772
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
the episode, it's like she's
justified.

773
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,280
Yeah, they.
They really make it sound like

774
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,320
she's correct.
Yeah.

775
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,120
So Rupert walks in on them
fighting.

776
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,720
I never remember that.
His name is Rupert.

777
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,760
Doesn't look like a Rupert, but
I think only Rupert Giles looks

778
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,480
like a Rupert.
That's.

779
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,440
Carlisle Cullen, I don't know
what we're talking about here.

780
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,920
It's Carlisle.
I don't understand.

781
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,400
And he does say that he has cast
Santana in part or maybe totally

782
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,800
for the press attention of of
two girls from the same school

783
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,920
being in the same show, because
that'll make them like twice as

784
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,960
famous.
Which seemed like pretty sound

785
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,320
logic to me.
I'm not going to lie.

786
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,360
I'm like, OK, I mean, you're
casting an unknown, you need to

787
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,800
get some press.
Because Rachel is really not

788
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,920
understanding that like you are
an unknown in the lead of a

789
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,680
Broadway show.
That's not a great marketing

790
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,240
idea.
Like this is allegedly the

791
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,240
first, if we're going by like
real world, this is the first

792
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:24,120
revival of Funny Girl since the
original, right?

793
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,760
Who's going to come see this if
a rando is in it?

794
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,200
So what's your marketing angle
other than the first revival of

795
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Funny Girl, right?
So maybe that the the lead and

796
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120
the understudy are from the same
high school and in the same Glee

797
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,800
club That might draw like 6
people from Jersey, I don't

798
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,280
know.
They need to do like an

799
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,080
interview with shoe or something
like what's your secret?

800
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,200
Yeah, really though.
Planting drugs.

801
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040
Yeah.
Blackmail.

802
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,080
That's how we did it.
That's how we got this all

803
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:59,000
together, Which pulls them into
singing Every Breath You Take by

804
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,760
the police.
Did you go?

805
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,120
I've been lost for me in the
trips.

806
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,080
I'm dreaming that I've known it
see your face I'm looking around

807
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,480
but you I can't replace.
I feel so cold and I'm all we

808
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,120
going every I keep crying baby
baby please.

809
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,560
And really, this was good.
I liked it.

810
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,880
Yeah.
I.

811
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,480
It it was Oh my God, the staging
and the use of like slow MO or

812
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,960
like, I guess it wasn't real
slow MO, but you know what the

813
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,600
like interesting camera panning
back and forth and the the

814
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,480
arrangement was so cool with
their voices layering.

815
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,920
They really kind of modernized
the sound of it too.

816
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Like the original is like so 80s
sounding.

817
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,000
I loved it.
I was like, I never appreciated

818
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,840
this song.
When I first saw this episode, I

819
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,080
would listen to this song again,
it was really good.

820
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,320
Yeah, no, no complaints here.
So like, yay, can't, can't hate

821
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,480
on it.
I really enjoyed it.

822
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,080
I'd kind of forgotten about it
until the rewatch here and I was

823
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,120
like, OK.
That that little part where they

824
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,440
were like out on these balconies
or something and you could see

825
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,800
them all going in and out of the
doors.

826
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,400
That was so cool.
Yeah, I was into it so.

827
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,440
And a good song choice that fit
the situation, unlike brief Yep

828
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,200
so.
More of this, less of that,

829
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Yeah, but it does result in a
standoff between Santana and

830
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,440
Rachel.
But who is going to move out

831
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,760
which?
Kurt is the one that really

832
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,600
loses.
Yes, Kurt is the only one

833
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,240
because he's going to have to
pay more rent if someone.

834
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:55,440
Yeah.
Yeah, he's like, desperate to

835
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,320
get them to stay.
He's like.

836
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,800
Let's calm down.
Let's order a pizza.

837
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Yeah.
And I was like, I don't think

838
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,920
you guys are really thinking
about what's happening here.

839
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,680
Someone's.
You're all gonna have to pay

840
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,680
more rent, Rachel.
You're gonna have to find a

841
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,640
place by yourself.
No, her rich gay dads are gonna

842
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,000
pay.
For it, I just assumed that that

843
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,040
was what was happening because
she literally leaves that day

844
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,960
and I was like, where are you
going?

845
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,880
Did she like leave, have her
stuff behind?

846
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,400
That's what it looked like.
Pace and I was like, where are

847
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,440
you going?
It's New York, you can't find

848
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,480
you.
No one can find an apartment

849
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,760
even.
It's 2013, so it's not as bad.

850
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,400
But I was like where, what, how,
where are you going?

851
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,320
Are you going to use gypsy
housing to find something like,

852
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,440
I don't understand.
But yeah, she walks out that day

853
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,560
and I'm assuming maybe going to
a hostel because I don't think

854
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,840
she has any other friends and I
don't think Danny's going to let

855
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,920
her stay because she's Team
Santana and.

856
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,760
I guess our child, yeah, that's
all she's got.

857
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Maybe, I assume he lives in,
like, I don't know, a cloud in

858
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,160
the sky.
I don't see him actually having

859
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,920
a play.
I don't know.

860
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,960
But yeah.
And she's has this whole crap

861
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,040
about like, we've just been
pretending to be friends the

862
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,680
whole time and like.
Yeah, she just like, really?

863
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,600
Loses it.
Yeah, she does.

864
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,720
You know, as I was watching it,
I was trying to, like, get in

865
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:14,040
Santana's head a little bit.
And I can like, I can kind of

866
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,440
understand how, like, she had to
go into that audition knowing

867
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,960
that this was going to torch the
friendship like she was trying

868
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,280
to have with Rachel.
So she had already like, had the

869
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,800
fight in her head and knew how
it was going to turn out.

870
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Yes, and.
I don't really blame her for

871
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,760
that because I wouldn't want to
fight with Rachel either.

872
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,400
It's like I feel like.
No, because she knew she was not

873
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,240
going to win.
Yeah, exactly.

874
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,800
Like, so she was kind of already
like, defeated and angry like

875
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,000
before Rachel opened her mouth.
And then Rachel did exactly what

876
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,200
anyone could assume Rachel would
do.

877
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,280
Yeah, stomp out into the bitter
cold.

878
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,240
Flounce.
After ripping up a photo of

879
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:53,520
them, Yeah, it's very high
school.

880
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,520
And like throwing it in the air,
like very dramatic.

881
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,560
Again, this is when we have to
remember they're like six months

882
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,160
out of high school.
Yes, yeah, that's true.

883
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,520
Mere children.
Which does cue the final song of

884
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,840
Kelly Clarkson's breakaway I.
Didn't love this one.

885
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,920
You didn't.
You didn't spread your wings and

886
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
learn how to fly.
Which, Whichever one of you said

887
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,440
earlier, the song choices in
this episode are just strange.

888
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,560
Yeah.
Yeah, that one was random.

889
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,280
This one felt more like it would
be a national song, not like an

890
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,480
end of episode song.
The only positive, the only real

891
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,880
positive I have 4 choosing that
song is that it's sung between

892
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Lima and New York, right?
So it's like Blaine has Tina and

893
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,600
already doing this with him as a
audition for valedictorian Peach

894
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,560
song, which I think the song
makes total sense as a leaving

895
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,800
high school song.
And then, you know, now you've

896
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,200
got over in New York, the the
loft is breaking up and Rachel's

897
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,360
moving out.
And like, so I, I can see how it

898
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,520
it did work in both situations,
which they often don't really

899
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,040
think about for the ending song,
like they just kind of boasting

900
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,240
it on both sides and you just,
it doesn't really make sense.

901
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:10,160
So I did like that the it's, it
felt like they put some thought

902
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,520
into it.
And I love Kelly Clarkson and

903
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080
her music, but I'm.
Always down for Kelly.

904
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,240
It's I, I associate that song
with too many other things for

905
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:20,920
it to like, really work in Glee
to me.

906
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Like I feel like Glee's songs
work the best for me when

907
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,920
they're kind of like ones I
never really listened to before,

908
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,160
like ones that are like a little
bit older or like a little bit

909
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,840
or transformed in some way.
And it was just like a straight

910
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,720
up cover of the Kylie Clarkson
song.

911
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,800
Yeah, like somebody that I used
to know.

912
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,040
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

913
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Can't listen to that song
without.

914
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,160
Exactly.
You put in a different context

915
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,760
and you're like, Oh my God, I'll
never forget this as long as I

916
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,280
live.
And this breakaway was just very

917
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,720
forgettable.
In this episode.

918
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,640
Breakaway, brave, Just
forgettable.

919
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,440
There were some other songs that
I felt made more of an impact

920
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,440
of, like how fun and how cool
and how creative and yeah.

921
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,680
That's true, yeah.
Actually some of their like

922
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,840
1960s songs are.
Really cute.

923
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,960
I love when they go back and do,
yeah, like a little bit older of

924
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,720
songs.
Yeah, those have been some of my

925
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,680
favorites.
I can't actually remember the

926
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,720
name of it, but I can see the
dresses in my mind.

927
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,520
It's one of like the girl group
songs.

928
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,880
Oh, tell him, tell us.
Thank you, Tell him.

929
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,800
I know exactly what you meant.
Yeah, that was so cute.

930
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,680
So good.
I actually like that one.

931
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,160
I missed the the unholy Trinity.
Yes.

932
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,240
Anyway, so that yes.
So before we end, and we do have

933
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:35,160
to lightly claim because we do
have Kurt and Elliot.

934
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:40,360
Who are not really a verses, but
more of a it's like Kurt is like

935
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,080
against star child.
Star Child is just happy to be

936
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,160
there.
Yeah, Kurt's having his own

937
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,680
battle.
He's worried that Elliott slash

938
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,880
star child is going to take over
his band.

939
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:58,920
So he's like interviewing
Elliott, like, like gonna get to

940
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,160
know you, which is really just
him trying to like, pry to see

941
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,480
if Elliott is going to take over
the band from him.

942
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,080
And it comes around to like, I
want you to teach me how to play

943
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,440
guitar.
Right, OK, it's.

944
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,760
One sided frenemies with that
nice ending.

945
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,040
Yeah.
I enjoyed it.

946
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,480
We didn't get much of them, but
I enjoyed what we got.

947
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,400
Me too, cause like the guitar
thing was so random, like Kurt

948
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,400
doesn't really want to learn how
to play guitar.

949
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,920
But like that wasn't the The
plot didn't hinge on you

950
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,360
suddenly believing that Kurt
wanted to learn how to play

951
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,160
guitar.
I think it made sense that he

952
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,560
was just going along with it and
then the the guitar store scene

953
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,200
with all the randos was so fun.
Yeah, it was so fun.

954
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:43,680
They I.
Loved it.

955
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,720
Elliot just goes up to someone
with a guitar and he's like just

956
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,360
straight.
They're not even gonna pretend

957
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,280
that they're going into a song.
He's just like, do you know the

958
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,800
song?
I believe in a thing called Love

959
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,760
by the Darkness.
Not even like, hey, it's Glee.

960
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,320
We're gonna play a song.
Just do you know the song?

961
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,440
So then they play a song.
And I think it was so that Chris

962
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,480
Slash Kurt could spin around on
poles and that that's that's.

963
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,160
Such a fantastic use of him.
He used to do that every couple

964
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,480
of episodes.
Yeah, he he got to like swing

965
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,640
upside down on the chandelier
not that long ago.

966
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Now he gets to swing on a pole.
It was amazing this.

967
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,080
Was really the era of Chris
getting to do the random shit

968
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:25,120
that he was doing at the time of
just like, well your storylines

969
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,440
are iffy and kind of like in the
background so let's let you like

970
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,360
do weird shit like finally take
your shirt off and spin on stuff

971
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,320
cuz why not 'cause.
It's what we deserve.

972
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,400
Yeah, it's it's what the fandom
finally deserves after so long

973
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,760
of begging for it on Tumblr.
Yeah.

974
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,960
So like, yeah, you have fun,
Kurt, Chris, like, go to town.

975
00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:50,720
They really gave Chris a lot of
like creative freedom in this

976
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:53,600
season and I'm guessing this was
part of it 'cause like he writes

977
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,520
an episode later this season
that is like just clearly a

978
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,400
Chris call for like fantasy
episode, which is great.

979
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,480
I love that for him.
Yeah, the the it's the one with

980
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,680
like June Squibb, right?
Yep.

981
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:09,720
And you know it.
They're still besties 'cause he

982
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,600
posted about her just the other
day on.

983
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,760
Instagram.
Yeah, he did.

984
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,320
I saw that.
I loved that.

985
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Like like actually friends?
Personally.

986
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,240
Yes.
So, you know, like, if you're

987
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,400
not gonna get good storylines on
the show you've been on since

988
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,760
the beginning, then like pole
dance, who cares?

989
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,000
But Elliot's hanging out at the
apartment while Kurt pretends to

990
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,160
bake and so.
OK, so on Pack Dynamics, Allison

991
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,520
and I do a fan in her Canon in
episodes.

992
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,320
Where is this thing fannin?
Or is this like the moment where

993
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,600
it becomes Canon?
This is.

994
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,480
Is this a fannin or Canon that
Kurt bakes?

995
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,640
I feel like that's Canon.
OK, but he's what he's baking

996
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,920
are like the pop top where you
like pop open the can of

997
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,200
cinnamon rolls and plop them
onto a tray because in in fannin

998
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,280
Kurt bakes.
So.

999
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,760
But Kanani in this episode, he
is popping open like a Pillsbury

1000
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,120
cinnamon roll thing and slapping
on.

1001
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,240
To be fair, cinnamon rolls
specifically are difficult to

1002
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:12,480
make.
They are they.

1003
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Are yeasted and all that stuff.
They are, yes.

1004
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:21,360
So is this like the beginning of
Kurt wanting to bake and it's

1005
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,920
like getting into his psyche
that like I really enjoy doing

1006
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,520
this and since we live in a
weird ass apartment and I can't

1007
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,160
afford ingredients I'm just I'm
just asking the important fanfic

1008
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,600
questions.
I feel like I'm I'm so torn.

1009
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,920
Of course I googled and it's
nothing but fanfic results.

1010
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Exactly because I also did.
Don't you just like having a

1011
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,480
single dad who definitely wasn't
cooking that has motivated him

1012
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,800
to?
Or would he just be like a

1013
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,920
connoisseur of takeout?
Yes, I know, because so in one

1014
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,160
of the kid flashbacks of Kurt,
they're doing a tea party, but

1015
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,200
of course there's no real food.
Don't I distinctly don't.

1016
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,400
Y'all are distinctly remember
Kurt with like an apron and like

1017
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,960
oven mitts on like an early
season scene.

1018
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,400
Yes, but again, is it just that
he popped open a can of

1019
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,880
Pillsbury?
Is he?

1020
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,880
Dressing flour.
No, I don't know.

1021
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,440
I mean, that's more than, you
know, Rachel or Santana are

1022
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,280
doing cooking.
So, you know, on the scale of

1023
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,120
all the characters in Glee,
maybe he bakes.

1024
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,560
There's there's cooking and
there's baking.

1025
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,960
And I do think they are very
different definitely.

1026
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,880
And I will fight people on that.
Cooking and baking are different

1027
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,080
and you can be really good at
one and terrible at the other.

1028
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
So like it sounds different.
Levels of enjoyment in both, it

1029
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,240
sounds like Rachel.
Cooks because remember she did

1030
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:46,280
that like Christmas thing even
though she's Jewish for what's

1031
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,200
his face?
And then he put his bare ass on

1032
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,800
the yeah, Brody put his bare ass
on the chair.

1033
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,880
Oh yeah.
So I don't know, I'm just

1034
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:58,880
fanning Kurt bakes.
I'm, I'm hoping Canon Kurt like

1035
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,680
really bakes, but this was the
moment where I was like, OK, but

1036
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,440
it's pop.
It's not Give me more.

1037
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:08,120
Blaine would bake.
Blaine would bake and he would

1038
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,800
like get it perfectly right
away.

1039
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,920
Yes, but he doesn't canonically.
Canonically, Blaine doesn't do

1040
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,680
anything outside.
He exists solely to take solos

1041
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,880
and lighthouses.
No guys, he listens to Roxy

1042
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,400
Music.
True.

1043
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,000
That too, I'm a record player.
Whore we've never seen again.

1044
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Oh.
That's right.

1045
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,160
Yeah, he has a station wagon
we've never seen again.

1046
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,280
Anyway that just I spent a lot
of time thinking about that

1047
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,840
because I also like to bake and
I was just I was struggle

1048
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,120
buzzing about it.
I will say there's no strong

1049
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,120
evidence he does bake, but
there's pieces of evidence that

1050
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,560
he might bake.
Yes, I know.

1051
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:47,960
So I think you can believe that
he bakes.

1052
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,760
OK, I will.
I will choose that.

1053
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:56,920
Anyway, on that tangent, Elliott
susses him out over all of this

1054
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,520
new found friendship and as you
said, he's just glad to be

1055
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,040
there.
Elliot needed a gay friend.

1056
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,880
He's not trying to take over the
van, the band, and frankly, he's

1057
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,520
just nice and he does not want
to be frenemies.

1058
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,880
Cue the title of the episode,
Who wants to?

1059
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,520
Be friends.
Just wants to be buds who don't

1060
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,320
backstab each other and Kurt
takes a selfie with him where

1061
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,680
like Elliot's kissing his cheek
which somehow makes it to like

1062
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,280
everybody.
Oh, because.

1063
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,680
On Facebook or something?
He posted it somewhere.

1064
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,640
Yeah, he posted it somewhere,
which cues Becky over in Lima to

1065
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,240
roll up to Blaine asking why he
broke up with, quote, gay

1066
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,880
pancake face, which doesn't even
make any sense.

1067
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,920
Kurt is very pointy.
Yeah.

1068
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,760
Yeah, what is pancake face
supposed to mean?

1069
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,440
I.
Don't know.

1070
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,280
To me a pancake is flat.
Kurt is very sharp.

1071
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,720
Yeah, like flat and round maybe,
maybe in season 1.

1072
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,880
Yeah, but.
Chris is fucking hot now.

1073
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,520
He's all angles.
It's all angle in the season, so

1074
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Blaine's a little perturbed.
Yeah.

1075
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,320
By the by the photo, you're
there.

1076
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Well, insecure stalker, not his
favorite photo 'cause, you know,

1077
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,720
can't have perfect Klain.
Wouldn't wanna, wouldn't wanna

1078
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,960
do that.
But Blaine says like, no,

1079
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,440
they're just friends.
Like he does push.

1080
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,120
Like he's clearly not thrilled,
but he does push back on it.

1081
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,240
Like, no, Becky, like they're
just friends.

1082
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Yep.
Yeah, yeah.

1083
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,680
I don't like that the episode
ends without that settling.

1084
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Yeah, they just never revisited
that.

1085
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,040
Are we setting up?
Yeah.

1086
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,560
Are we setting up something for
later?

1087
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,400
I don't remember anything well.
Yes, because remember they don't

1088
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,080
get married until season.
Six.

1089
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,960
Right, right, right.
Oh, they're foreshadowing is

1090
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,400
what you're saying.
Yes, it's foreshadowing.

1091
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Oh, OK, But they don't break
them up either until the first

1092
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,440
episode of season 6.
They don't break them up at the

1093
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,320
end of this season, they're
still together.

1094
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,320
So like, what was the point?
What was the reason?

1095
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,000
I think just because so many, I
think some of the writers don't

1096
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,320
like, well, this, this one was
written by someone named Ned

1097
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Martel.
I saw that.

1098
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:02,920
I was like, who the fuck is
that?

1099
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,280
Yeah, I remember him of that
one.

1100
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,040
Wait, I can click on the Glue
wiki and see what else he wrote?

1101
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,840
That's the only one he's
credited as a director writer

1102
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,960
for.
Really.

1103
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,560
That's so random, huh?
Just one episode.

1104
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,840
American Horror Story.
You know what I thought when

1105
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,480
this episode came up?
I was like, Oh my God, Ryan

1106
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,360
Murphy did that whole show feud.
Guess you did.

1107
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,400
It's like the same in the same
vein.

1108
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,120
Producer Boys in the band, The
Normal Heart.

1109
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,920
So he's a Ryan Murphy.
Yeah, Ryan Murphy, guy.

1110
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,960
Oh, 14 episodes that can't.
Oh, season 6.

1111
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,200
Oh, he like contributed to
season 6.

1112
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,680
Looks like it.
Well, so he's a he's a claim

1113
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,480
hater is what I'm hearing.
Yeah, yeah.

1114
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,560
OK.
Story Editor.

1115
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,760
Executive story editor.
Executive story editor.

1116
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,600
Yeah, he's one of the claim
haters.

1117
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,680
Our child star has a written by
a credit but mostly executive

1118
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,840
story editor.
I think I mean.

1119
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,440
So obviously we're going to get
into this way later, but I think

1120
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,520
Clayne suffered just being the a
couple like this show just never

1121
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,000
knew what to do with their a
couple except break them up and

1122
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,400
get them back together several.
Times.

1123
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,960
Yes, totally.
And let them almost get married

1124
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,720
and then they didn't get married
several times.

1125
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,720
So, you know, I think that was
their biggest crime was just

1126
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,560
being the a couple.
They were much safer when they

1127
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,840
were like BC couple.
Yeah.

1128
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,720
Yep.
Yeah, that is that is Feudal

1129
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,400
enemies, frenemies.
I think we got all the songs.

1130
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,080
Yeah, we got all the songs.
Do you have a favorite song?

1131
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,160
I mean, I is it, is it
everybody's every breath you

1132
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,880
take?
Yeah, that's definitely.

1133
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,880
Mine, yeah, I believe in a thing
called love.

1134
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:46,160
Like honorary mention, 'cause it
was also very fun and Oh my God,

1135
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,080
the vocals.
I mean, like, you know that Adam

1136
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Lambert's talented and then he
just goes off and you're like,

1137
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,320
Oh my God, he's inhuman.
It's insane.

1138
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,800
They just let him go off and
riff and it was amazing.

1139
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,440
He also didn't win American Idol
like he came in runner up which

1140
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,320
is such a crime to Chris Allen.
Who even knows who that is?

1141
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,920
I mean, we know it's because
Adam Lambert is gay and not

1142
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,720
hiding it, right?
For American Idol, we're not

1143
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,040
gonna do that.
I also think shows where you

1144
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,120
vote for stuff.
I mean, we all know that's

1145
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,320
rigged, right?
Yeah.

1146
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,680
I remember when it was David
Arculetta versus the other David

1147
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,400
and David Arculetta was like a
shoo in, but the other David won

1148
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,160
and they theorized it was
because people thought David

1149
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,200
Arculetta was gonna win so
easily that nobody they didn't

1150
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,640
turn out to vote for him are.
They Hillary Clinton didn't.

1151
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,600
Exactly.
I'm gonna say yes, but that is

1152
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,000
actually way more American Idol
lore than I.

1153
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,920
Know growing up we didn't have
cable, we only had local

1154
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,040
channels.
So I know a lot of random shit

1155
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,880
about like that era of network
TVI.

1156
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,360
Specifically, only know about
season 6 because I spent one

1157
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,680
summer very immersed in the
fandom for it.

1158
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,160
Oh, you're.
Interested.

1159
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,240
I had an American Idol ship.
Who?

1160
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,560
Who is it?
Who?

1161
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,520
So their ship name was Cake, It
was Blake Lewis and Chris

1162
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,560
Richardson.
I don't even know who those

1163
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,000
people are.
Yeah, they didn't do shit after

1164
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,400
the check.
Blake Lewis was like.

1165
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,680
Boxer.
I'm like I I'm pretty sure if I

1166
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,880
saw Chris Richardson on the
street today, I would not

1167
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,720
recognize him.
I don't think he did anything

1168
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,000
with a music career, but Blakely
was 1 I think.

1169
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,200
No, he's an American
singer-songwriter.

1170
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,160
Runner up Season 6.
OK, he was.

1171
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,960
He was at the finale then.
I also find Simon Cowell

1172
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,280
repulsive, so I think that.
Probably fucked that guy.

1173
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000
OK, winner, winner was Jordan
Sparks.

1174
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,320
That season.
Oh, OK, Deserved.

1175
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,080
I also this is like closet of
shame here.

1176
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:07,520
I'm not shame I've done in the
past but I I was active on Simon

1177
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,280
Cowell, Paula Abdul for a minted
right fick for them too.

1178
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,680
What?
It's not amazing.

1179
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,280
It had to be look.
I've had a lot of short lived

1180
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,840
phases in my life.
I'd love that though because I

1181
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,240
feel like I like something and
then never give it up for years

1182
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,640
and years and never fill that
void, no.

1183
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,480
I have my mains but I have my
like fandom flings too.

1184
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,400
That's so fun.
Polyamory Fandom.

1185
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Fan fan.
Polyamory famory fan.

1186
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,240
Polyfamory.
Polyfamory.

1187
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,280
Thank you, Polyfamory.
Wait, let me write it down.

1188
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,080
Polyfamory.
I feel like we have no merch.

1189
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,680
Like do we need merch?
I don't know.

1190
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,520
That's a.
Good one.

1191
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,280
So I don't.
Know if anyone would want it but

1192
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,600
I would like it.
We can make ourselves merch

1193
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,240
ourselves.
Merch.

1194
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,160
Yeah, I would.
I would Merch.

1195
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,480
I remember some of these names
so.

1196
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:06,440
I was so briefly into it that I
went to the live show and then

1197
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:07,720
got all their signatures
afterwards.

1198
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,600
Oh.
My God, it was in like Alabama.

1199
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,400
So I did.
It was like a six hour drive,

1200
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,000
but.
They toured in Alabama.

1201
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,160
That's amazing.
Yeah.

1202
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:18,920
American Idol, it went
everywhere.

1203
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,160
Wow, I was very excited.
Wow, OK.

1204
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,080
Wow.
That's my.

1205
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,160
I'm so glad we got to end on
this.

1206
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,520
Yeah, I'm so glad this is such
lore right now.

1207
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,480
I.
Got an entire mini episode on

1208
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,440
randoms.
I've written fic four that would

1209
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,240
shock people.
Wait, that's really fun, I love

1210
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,080
that idea.
Yep, put it on the list.

1211
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,240
That's amazing.
I'm so happy this happened at

1212
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,480
the end of this, You know, we're
not even gonna go through like

1213
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,880
that thing that I like because
this was the thing that I liked,

1214
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,560
the ending of this.
This little Hindi's American

1215
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,280
Idol phantom.
This was the thing that I liked.

1216
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Yeah, Yep.
That's unless you guys have

1217
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,240
things that you like that you
want to talk about for this

1218
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,960
episode.
This moment was that thing that

1219
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,160
I liked.
I'm good with ending on that.

1220
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,760
It.
Was a fine episode but it wasn't

1221
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,160
like anything stand out.
And will it be consequential?

1222
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,560
That's also the question.
I'm like, will any of this come

1223
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:18,960
up again?
We'll see.

1224
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,800
Who knows.
We will see.

1225
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:22,560
We'll.
Find out.

1226
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,520
Well I hoped.
I hope everyone enjoyed that

1227
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,080
foray into American Idol at the
tail end of a Glee episode.

1228
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,000
Did they air on the same
channel?

1229
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,120
Yes.
Yeah.

1230
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,360
Adam Lambert was in both.
Adam Lambert was in both.

1231
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,720
That's how we got there.
So really it all connects in the

1232
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,760
end anyway.
Yep.

1233
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,680
So thank you for listening.
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1234
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,080
I'm pretty sure we're supposed
to do the the spawn con at the

1235
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,680
beginning of like find us on the
Internet because by now people

1236
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,280
stop listening.
But I don't remember to do that.

1237
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,920
So like, whatever.
Yeah.

1238
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,280
You can find us at Phantom on
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1239
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,880
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1240
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,880
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1241
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,520
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1242
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,160
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1243
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,640
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1244
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,760
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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:40,840
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