June 5, 2018
Hello From the Other Side
After a four-month hiatus Glee returns with an all new episode! Well, four months back in 2010. For us it's only been a week. Today's episode is all about S1E14, "Hell-O." We're chatting about Fanon Finn Hudson v. Canon Finn Hudson, how Jesse St. James is sort of perfect for Rachel, and how Rachel is actually the Jesse St. James of McKinley. Oh, and like true Millennials we argue about pineapple on pizzas. This episode is rated a measley one quarter Kevin. Content note: Please be aware that in this episode we discuss the use of date rape drugs in the episode and talk about why rape jokes are never funny. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/glee-on-the-rocks-podcast/support
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Hello and welcome back to Glee
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on the Rocks.
We are happy to have you here
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I'm F.
I'm Emily.
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And I'm Mandy.
And this is episode 13 where we
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talk about.
Hello.
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Episode 14 of Glee is first
season and it doesn't bother my
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OCD at all that were on episode
13 but also episode 14.
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That's just something we're
going to have to deal with as a
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group.
Anyway, hello.
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Actually your honor episode 12.
It's actually a pisode 12 that
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doesn't that makes it so much
better.
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It's we've got two double
features, Cool.
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My accounting is words are words
and numbers are hard.
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So, you know, that makes
podcasting super easy all around
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and a great idea for me to do it
anymore.
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Hopefully, it doesn't help that
our first episode was episode 0
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because it was an intro, it's a
whole thing.
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We really fucked up.
We tried to make this as
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complicated for you guys as
possible.
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That's to the point which is
hello episode 14, which
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premiered on April 13th. 2010
after a four-month, Hiatus was
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watched by 13.6 million people
which is the second highest of,
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you know, of the series was
directed by Brad falchuk and
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written by Ian Brennan and so
fresh off their Monumental win
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at sectionals.
New directions is on top of the
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world with an extra spring in
their step, they get to work on
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new numbers for regionals.
But when Rachel, and Finn's
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budding romance, hits, a bump in
the road, after she becomes
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involved with a competitor,
Jessie st.
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James, it threatens to derail
the entire Club mr.
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Schuester, pays a visit to
Shelby Corcoran coach of vocal
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adrenaline to confirm Jesse's
motives because that's normal.
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Meanwhile, we'll is newly single
but he is ready to.
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But is he ready to take his
relationship?
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Ship with Emma to the next
level.
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And to top it all off, Sue
Sylvester returns from her condo
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in Boca but the renewed focus on
destroying will and this
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abandoned disbanding, the Glee
Club, that's what you missed on
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Glee.
Yay.
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Which fun fact as noted earlier
here, that this was the first
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episode, we got the here's what
you missed on Glee, which came
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to be very, very common.
That would, yes, yes, thank you.
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It's hard to use the word icon
when it comes to, but I guess in
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context, I mean, I feel like
there are a few things that you
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can say.
These are, this is Iconic of the
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show.
Weird writing characterization,
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that makes no sense,
breadsticks, blamed words in age
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that never happened.
Here's which would be another
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one.
Yep, this, this was an
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interesting episode.
This was a Yeah, I feel like you
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can kind of tell that it was a
bit of a reset after previous
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episode, which was absolutely
written as a finale and then was
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turned into a mid season finale.
And now we're at the top of the
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second act of the season.
And we're trying to throw out
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some new storylines with vocal
adrenaline, and Jessie st.
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James and Will, and Emma.
What's guess it's on a new
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storyline, but it's, you know,
And Emma - Terry, although, you
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know, we're back with Finn and
Rachel, and Finn, and Rachel and
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off, and on, and then.
So there's, there's the constant
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threads of things.
But it does feel like they're
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trying to Get a new breath of
fresh air.
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So to speak, to keep to keep
going to the end of the season.
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Which didn't really make sense
to me.
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Like, we didn't you didn't need
to do like, a whole reset.
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Like, you could have just been
like cool keep going.
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Yeah, I mean yeah.
So like part act, one of the
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seasoning was getting to
sectionals and that has a whole
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Arc and they win.
And now act two is getting to
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Regionals and it's going to have
a very similar Arc.
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If I remember with ups and downs
and Sue getting in the way, And
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relationships getting the way
and on and off again and she
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making choices and it does kind
of what I remember.
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I guess we'll have to watch and
remind ourselves what the hell
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is going on, but it's somewhat
similar in that they had their
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goal is winning a competition
again.
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Yeah, I just, I felt like yeah
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I mean you didn't have to I mean
yeah you kind of reset but at
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the same time like you didn't
really need to just like be like
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cool.
Let's just been like let's go
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from here because Uh yeah we're
pretty much going to be doing
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the same thing.
Different things may be coming
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in and out but yeah, I mean
relationship drama admit amongst
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trying to win a competition
drama.
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Yeah, I mean well I just
distilled Glee Dad.
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Yeah, I guess that's what you
missed on Glee.
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That's she was smuggling.
All right.
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Done, we're done.
Here we figured it out.
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This has been great.
It's really nice talking to you
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guys.
And And a great, you know, 12
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episodes.
We've done Hood red.
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I don't think we need to keep
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Better, wrap it up.
We'll see you next time.
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Bye.
I mean I guess since we've still
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got this time you might as well
talk about things.
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We'll just yeah.
Then you have a casual
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conversation about the episode
between ourselves just us.
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That would be a very different
conversation if it wasn't being
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recorded.
True.
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FYI, the conversation pre and
post recording is very nice.
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It's also very different is also
a reason it's not recorded,
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okay?
So, I thought this was one of
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shoes, like weaker lesson plans.
Like sometimes you can tell his
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lesson plans, kind of fit the
matically, what's happening and
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you get white, we're going to
like you get y, key pairs them
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up, sometimes like, hey, my
students are fighting.
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Let's try Can work together even
though it's like the wrong thing
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to do but this thing with hello
and reintroducing yourself to
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yourself and like it just felt
this time, it really felt like
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they had some songs that they
wanted to use or someone in the
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writers room was like, when it'd
be funny, if all of the songs,
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have the word, hello and them.
And then they tried to build a
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lesson around it, but couldn't
really get one that made any
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sense.
I think that's something Glee
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did.
I'd like as a staple later on
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but this was the first time it
was really obvious.
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Yeah, it just felt really
apparent.
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That someone was like guys.
There's some really famous songs
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that all start with.
Hello.
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Let's put them in an episode.
Well and then it also feels
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really on the nose because
they're like, let's put them all
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in episode soon as we come back.
Yeah, Hiatus.
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Yeah.
Like it's really, really sad.
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That Adele hadn't come out with
hello yet.
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Cuz that would have been The
more on the nose and now, they
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should like, redo the episode
with hello.
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Okay.
But who would see?
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Okay, who would sing the best
version of, hello?
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I mean, we'll probably Mercedes
but I bet Tina could actually do
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a really pretty good version but
I think I think Mercedes could
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probably do the Adele long whale
better than some others.
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Interesting.
Okay.
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I was also thinking Nia.
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Nia is a, but I mean, I Mercedes
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interchangeably.
Mercedes, you know, she has a
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Powerhouse of a voice, but
Santana, I don't think she's
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that she wasn't really given a
chance.
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And so far at least in season
one to really showcase her voice
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and the strip God amazing.
She really does actually a lot
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of this.
A lot of my favorite songs are
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Santana songs, Just because they
sound so good.
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She's got that, she's got that
perfect voice for wearing a
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really Slinky red, satin dress
being in a piano bar late at
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night in New York.
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And you're being whiskey and
it's very smoky and the lights
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are low and she's just singing
into a microphone.
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I haven't a pictured.
This at all.
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I was I feel like, maybe you've
thought about this a few times.
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That's what I'm not going to say
that.
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It's also blamed on the piano.
That's It's fine.
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I have absolutely seen that fan
art, though.
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Look, I'm here. 100% 1000%.
Yeah, I guess so.
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I get the award for bringing
Blaine it early.
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Dip.
Yeah, the earliest possible.
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Yes.
Yeah continue as you say the the
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big thing with this with this
episode is obviously the
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introduction of Jessie st.
James and and Shelby Corcoran.
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Yep.
Yep.
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So that that being a big Point
let's let's kind of jump on into
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that.
Thoughts on Shelby Corcoran and
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or Jessie st.
James I am God.
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Don't hate them.
I don't hate them.
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I think I think a rival Glee
Club member is a great idea and
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Jonathan Groff is super talented
and super cute and knows how to
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do a show choir face and a show
choir song and it he looked he's
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got that baby face so he doesn't
look totally out of place to be
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in high school even though he is
you know question is Jonathan
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Groff in a glee club.
I'm Googling I don't know ask
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lin-manuel Miranda I'm sure he's
now ask his boyfriend, asked his
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friend Lynn I sat behind graph
at a show once and I didn't
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realize it was him until someone
else pointed him out.
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It was like oh hey I don't know.
I like Jesse and I like that he
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is lying and I like that.
He's actually a bit of a villain
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and I don't need him to be
redeemed in a way like what's
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wrong with just having it.
The Sue Sylvester Factor like,
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what's wrong with just having
some villains on this show.
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I definitely agree with that,
and I think the problem with any
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character who stays around too
long is that the show wants to
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redeem them.
Yeah, and it does eventually
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happen with Jesse but for season
one, he's a really good just
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like, asshole character.
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Yes, he plays her and it works
and, you know, I will, I hear
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you.
But however, I hear you Aunt,
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but I'm going to make the I
don't actually, I don't know if
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it's an unpopular opinion.
I don't know, but I always felt
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that Jessie st.
James made way more sense being
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with Rachel then fit.
Oh, and yes.
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Oh yeah.
Like so even though, yes, he
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ended up being a villain and he
didn't need to be, he didn't
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need to be redeemed.
Part of me, always did want him
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to be redeemed because I'm like,
no mmmm, not mean, what what
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should have happened?
Was Rachel realized that like
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she was actually kind of a
villain character all along too
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and they just bonded over that.
Yeah, we just bonded over
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wanting to win and willing to
do.
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Whatever it takes to get, there
are agencies that she would have
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egged somebody.
Yeah, if she had thought of it
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and frankly that's exactly what
she did to Sunshine.
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Yeah, every true.
Yeah like she is just thinking
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of that story.
She really is and it works like
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they complement each other and
interesting ways.
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I know.
Yeah.
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And there's not this like
hemming and hawing about it the
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way fin, especially in this
episode's.
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Like, I don't know if I want her
as a girlfriend.
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She's kind of annoying, but I
guess I'm going to anyway.
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Like, but what kind of
half-assed weird shit is that?
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And as as time goes, I think.
I see if it had gone a different
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trajectory it.
I think you'd have a pretty
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interesting Arc, but as he
stands in the first season, I
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dig it.
And yeah, I think you would make
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a better.
What would it be like to be like
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enemies to begrudging respect to
friends of ours?
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Well, no, I mean, as you point
out there, they're very much the
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exact like the exact same
character.
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He made Jessie st.
James, maybe turned up a few
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more notches than Rachel.
If you can't even imagine that.
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At right?
Um, but they both you know, they
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both go from a sense of, you
know passion and everything they
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do is just they're very
passionate about it.
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They're very decisive, they're
very much like this is this is
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about me, this is what I'm
doing.
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I've everything is for me to get
to this point and I have this
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dream in this goal and that
makes sense because then you
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could compare that to offend God
bless him.
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But he's just he's very
indecisive.
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He's Wishy-washy.
He doesn't know what he wants.
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Really?
Yeah, monster half the time and
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so you kind of go cool.
I mean Opposites Attract to get
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yes but at the same time like I
did only go so far until it's
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like cool.
What do we have in common?
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Yeah.
And what do we have?
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And and so yeah, I like Jesse
and Rachel and I thought it was
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an interesting, an interesting
thing to throw in there.
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And yeah, Why hadn't I have no
problem with Jesse being
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slightly evil to Rachel?
Mmm, well, you know, given that
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they're so alike and so
competitive and so desirous of
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winning at all costs, that they
would probably implode down the
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line, right?
Like they would get to a point.
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Let's say it's applying for
nyada or going for that last
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spot at nyada where they would
fight to the death for it
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regardless of the oh yeah.
Like that's fine.
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They can bet you know, the
choices career and opportunity
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over each other.
I think they would both at least
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at this point choose career and
opportunity over each other.
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And that's an interesting.
That's interesting.
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It's cool, it's cool, it's
different.
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I wonder I wonder because in my
head I imagine let's say let's
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let's think hypothetically here
just seen Rachel two together
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too.
You know, and until the point
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where they, you know, competing
to go up against Miata and in my
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head, I go.
Yes.
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I can totally see.
Rachel getting upset if Jesse
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did something to get in and she
didn't.
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But at the same time, like I'm
pissed because you cost me, but
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at the same time, begrudging
respect for like, because I
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would have because I did that
too.
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Like I lived on that too.
Yeah, right.
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But then, So Wonder because it's
men writing the show if they
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just ultimately would see no,
Rachel, as a woman would always
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see a relationship over anything
else, I can.
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Yeah, I think they do that
though.
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And you can see it in this
episode where.
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Yeah, I think absolutely.
They write her as and it's the
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problem that I start, you know,
we were talking about way in the
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first episode was like, I like
this Rachel and I did but you
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get to these episodes and you
Have her saying the Glee Club is
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everything to be in Winning is
Everything, But what she's doing
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is putting relationships over
that and she does that
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absolutely with Jesse st.
James is she, they tell her to
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her face.
If you keep this relationship
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going, which is all of, like six
hours old, you will be kicked
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out of this group, because it's
not fair to the rest of us.
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We think he's cheating.
We think he's bad news.
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They're totally right.
Yeah.
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And she's like, YOLO.
I'm going to do it anyway.
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So she says one thing absolutely
gets written as the girl who
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chooses relationships and it's
ridiculous.
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So yeah, I think I think, yes,
deep down actual Rachel, who is
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all about my goals?
My dreams Broadway fan rice
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above.
Every house would be upset and
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would be pissed at getting
fucked over by Jessie st.
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James.
If he as he tries to get ahead
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but would also Deep down,
understand.
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And be like, okay that's this is
this is you do what you need to
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do to get it done and would have
some modicum of respect for
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that?
Yes.
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Even if she hated that, you
fucked her over to do that but I
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so in that sense I think that
would have been it be an
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interesting trajectory to see
how that would go but I don't
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think they would have written it
that way.
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I think they would have written
it.
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Like she would be upset and hurt
like we see here and putting a
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relationship before it went.
Which I Meanwhile, I'm going,
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that's not, that's not what I
saw from Rachel.
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That's not what you told me.
Rachel was and showed me at the
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beginning.
So, what is she then?
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If she's not.
Yeah, so yeah, and interested
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and interesting sidebar into
into what could have been with
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Jesse and Rachel's relationship
through season one but hey, we
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didn't get that.
Hey, that's not what happens in
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Kay spoi.
In case you were not aware of
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the rest of season.
So Shelby Corcoran the other.
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The other big name for this for
this episode Dina.
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I'm cool with Shelby, you know
you got a woman leading the
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charge again for another Glee
club and you know, she's also
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doing what she thinks it takes
to win although I guess I don't
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super like that her go to is
cheating.
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Like why not just Us that you're
insanely.
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Talented and overpopulated Glee
Club is going to be fine but
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getting it done.
You're welcome.
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What's in the water in Ohio to
produce?
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Those are many club members?
Yeah, yeah.
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Cuz there's, there's I mean new
directions is vocal adrenaline.
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And then there's, you know,
there's Alton and it's sort of
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like, with the full don't like,
is there nothing else to do in
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Ohio and like, accept, like,
Breed, musically, talented
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children, it's all part of the
the mutant Factory that they got
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going on.
There really is something in the
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water.
Absolutely.
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This Ohio's third-rate power.
Really, really just having like
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that but it's the third rate
mutants of the X-Men.
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It's like all of these means are
just mute you know musically
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theater in climates like well
what fucking news is that we'll
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stick him in Ohio.
Yeah.
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Getting that says, when they
carry water, baby.
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I don't know.
I don't know, man.
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Even on a very honest, you know,
where Lima Ohio is.
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So, I mean, I Feel Like It's
gotta be somewhere in the middle
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because something that a flap,
it's not, it's on the, it's
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closer to the west side of the
state north of Dayton, which is
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also a city about every summer
in Dayton Ohio as a child.
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So you were Like, I don't know
how far this is.
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You were several inches of
Google Maps space away from my.
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Yeah, I am now Googling.
Like, did you get some of that
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water?
Yeah, I do.
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And that's it, really I Know
Glee is not a documentary, but
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I'm just saying if there
actually were like hidden ring
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of musically talented, mutants
that somebody had a party told
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Ryan Murphy about.
I wouldn't be shocked.
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Yeah.
Would not be surprised like it's
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an hour.
North of Dayton, you were really
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close cool.
So like I don't feel I did drink
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the water.
It's a to it's a two hour bus
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ride.
PS, how far away was I from?
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Is there a Westerville Ohio?
I mean, probably there is
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because it isn't.
It actually like an hour and a
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half away from Lima.
Yeah, it is like, yeah.
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Okay.
Do you pronounce because I
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always pronounce in Lima, I
pronounced it Lima.
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And I'd say that Lima which
makes sense.
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Yeah.
They were like I'm a losers
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that's a level of detail that
really doesn't matter on the
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show.
So yeah, I'm basically an hour
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and a half away from.
I would have been an hour and a
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half away from Lima and
Westerville cool.
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Cool, cool.
I just assumed neither of these
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studies were real and they just
made them up because of course
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they did.
Why would they have come up with
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real?
So, why were they have used real
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cities?
I mean, of the people who I know
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who are from Ohio, all they have
to say is like, that's not what
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it's like at all.
So, you know, also, I spent time
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in Cincinnati which was how far
away from that's even for
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yourself.
It is but I didn't know if it
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was closer to to Westerville is
not FYI but yeah so I might my
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singing ability Not that.
He's basically Kentucky.
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It really is my dancing ability
though.
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Quite good.
Oh, so there's that.
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I have another least something's
in the water.
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There's really not much you
missed.
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To be honest.
Oh I know.
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I've I've that's why I kept
driving through the entered Ohio
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and I was like, nope, keep
going.
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Hmm.
Like no pretty sure this one
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nothing happens here to pretty
sure this is the setting for
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just about every other
Supernatural episode in the
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compromise.
Moving on.
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All right.
So that being said yeah, I like
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Shelby Corcoran.
I quite enjoyed her.
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I thought she should have stayed
around more.
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Although I could understand why
Glee didn't have the budget for
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a demon first even fair.
Also, she had she had a really
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fucking good.
Vice.
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I know this is kind of jumping
ahead a little bit, but let's
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just go with Shelby is right.
We should listen to Shelby and
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shoes and asshole and leave it
at that and then go back to the
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beginning with shoe.
Mmm, Yeah Yeah.
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She was, yeah, she was
absolutely right about hey,
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you've just left your wife.
After a what 15-year
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relationship or however, the
fuck long, they were dating and
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then married and like Really,
it's not time for him to date.
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Emma.
Because that she just left at
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the altar.
Like he should really he needs
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to spend some time on like a
spiritual Retreat finding
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himself.
I was it not only were you
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married in dating and like with
this woman for 15 years it was a
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traumatic end.
Yeah.
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It wasn't like a slow
realization.
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Hey, we've Grown Apart.
We're not the same kids.
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We were in high school.
Let's mutually just decide to
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separate because II realized I
have feelings for this for Emma
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and that's not fair.
So, let's let's talk about this,
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let's be adults and let's just a
mclee move on?
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No, it wasn't fucking that.
Yeah, it was Terry's losing her
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mind because you're a dick and
how and having emotion
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emotionally the word I won't be
cheating on her with somebody
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that you are working with.
Yeah.
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Who is also dating somebody
else.
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So she's faking a pregnancy to
be able to bring your Change it
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back in and you realize, it's
all fake because she's trying to
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buy the child from that.
Your student is carrying, that's
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pretty fucking dramatic.
So no, you should not be dating
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somebody right now.
It's a special moments.
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This was a show that was
actually on TV for children.
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Oh my God.
Children this happens for
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younger people.
Let's just say this is not for
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children.
Yeah.
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When should the age of the age
of people between adults and
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children?
Hmm.
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When she was like, I'm And of a
mess.
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I was like, yes you are.
I was like, this is this.
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This is.
You have never been more
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accurate.
You really.
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I've never, I've never liked you
before I like you right now.
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Yeah.
Okay.
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You can have the first,
recoveries.
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Yeah.
So let's not go that far map
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there.
So yeah.
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Got that.
So Shelby's.
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Right.
See I guess, speaking of other
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inappropriate relationships,
what's up with?
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Finn and Rachel this time we're
back to office.
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And he's like what she thinks
were dating.
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I don't think we're dating, so
let's not date.
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But then, let's date and you
guys are like 16 years old.
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Like go to class.
Do your fucking homework, stop
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this nonsense.
We're not dating because I got
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00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:53,700
asked out by Brittany and
Santana to go with them and that
448
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:54,800
just makes me go.
What?
449
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:57,200
Really?
Yeah.
450
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,900
There's this is one of those
many times where canonically
451
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:07,000
Finn Hudson is an asshole.
Yeah, definitely canonically.
452
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,300
Finn Hudson also understands the
power of Hawaiian pizza, so you
453
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:15,200
really can't blame your no, no,
no, no, no.
454
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:23,900
This isn't that Finn Hudson is
the worst kind of person and
455
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,500
should never be trusted with
anything, let alone making a
456
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,800
pizza order.
I need backup on this.
457
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,600
Mandy here, to back you up on
this.
458
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:39,400
I mean, you know you have said
nothing but truth I bet I bet
459
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,300
Blaine Anderson likes.
Hawaiian Pizza.
460
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:46,400
Blaine Anderson has good choices
and things most of the time he
461
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,100
probably made a mistake once or
twice, especially when drunk and
462
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:53,300
accidentally ordered pineapple
and Ham on a pizza.
463
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,500
And then realized his mistake
and was like, oh no, this was
464
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,900
terrible.
I should never do this again.
465
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,200
Was that a missing ask the
Ambrose post?
466
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Goodbye.
I feel like there's going to be
467
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,900
a post that happens.
That's just aimed at Blaine
468
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:13,600
Anderson say no.
I fucking love it.
469
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Just to be no cooper.
Cooper would totally Hooper
470
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,300
would totally order pineapple
and ham Cooper would make those
471
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,800
for yes.
And Cooper like dominoes are
472
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,900
Cooper would look at the menu,
not understand what Hawaiian
473
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:31,300
pizza was.
But thanks that sound exotic.
474
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:36,100
So orders it Anyway, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
475
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,200
Just I just now want a scene of
like Cooper and Blaine at a
476
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,300
pizza place, trying to decipher
the menu.
477
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:52,300
And it so and Cooper ordering a
Hawaiian pizza and bring those
478
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:56,500
baked Italian.
Yes, the terrible idea.
479
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,700
Why are why are, why did you
order this?
480
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,200
I mean, I respect your opinions,
you're both wrong.
481
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:07,100
And next time we all get to eat
together, I will eat the entire
482
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:11,600
Hawaiian pizza.
As you can, you will be fucking
483
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200
allowed to do that.
Yes, which is why this works
484
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,800
because I get all the Hawaiian
pizza that I want.
485
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,900
All So, I would just like, to
point out, pretty sure Kevin
486
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,500
McHale does not like Hawaiian
pizza.
487
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,100
So, I mean, according to his
Instagram, he's probably not
488
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:28,500
eating pizza right now.
Looks like he's trying to
489
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,600
describe this crime is
demotivating me about a lot of
490
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,600
things.
I know I actually had some pizza
491
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,400
today, then I was like, oh, I
should probably go work out.
492
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:41,300
How can I finish this cake when
I'm watching him?
493
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Work, is it?
I assume that mean I have a job.
494
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,400
No, he, well, I think his he is
permanently at the gym right
495
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,800
now.
Yeah, yeah.
496
00:29:53,300 --> 00:30:00,000
How can I breaking news?
Kevin McHale has a new job you
497
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,100
heard it here first, we bring
you breaking news, we don't know
498
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,400
what it is, we do.
We're just not, we're putting
499
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,000
after tune in next week on.
Say, it's not like it's not like
500
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Kevin McHale has to like be at
the gym to score like a
501
00:30:14,008 --> 00:30:15,500
boyfriend.
That's true.
502
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,300
Where he has been so clear to
me.
503
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:21,000
At the gym, other reasons.
Working on his Fitness.
504
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,900
Sure.
Anyway, Solaris long this long
505
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:32,800
sojourn into a terrible choice
for pizza is just further.
506
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,600
Reminder that Finn Hudson should
not be trusted.
507
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,200
They probably can't be if I mean
yeah I know a lot of matte make
508
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,800
this picks the worst thing.
A lot of the love for Finn
509
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,700
Hudson.
I really, I really think comes
510
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:51,100
from Cory.
Which is, which is fine, but
511
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,200
that does.
It does make you gloss over
512
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:56,600
canonical.
Finn Hudson.
513
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Who is often dickbag?
Yeah.
514
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,500
I was in my appreciation for
Finn does come.
515
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,700
I think thousand percent from
Fannin and from thick where
516
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:17,200
people have they want from fin
or what are like the parts of
517
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:19,600
him that were good.
Yes.
518
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,300
And pulled it and then kind of
added some of how Corey was and
519
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:28,500
how he was just very very
friendly and graceful built that
520
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:34,200
into lovable little doofuses.
He means well is sort of like, a
521
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600
golden retriever puppy.
Yes.
522
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Yeah.
I think they're, I think an
523
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,000
interpretation of Finn Hudson
has really risen above in the
524
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,400
memory of Glee watching, which
is what it's fine.
525
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:54,200
It's written mean, that doesn't,
it's not harmful, really, but I
526
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200
think he's, I think, people do
have to remember that sometimes
527
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,900
fan is just an asshole.
It was he on a whole?
528
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:05,600
I would say yeah, I'm totally
fine with the fan memory of Finn
529
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,700
being what it is.
But as we dive deeper into it
530
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:13,100
just sort of kind of going cool.
Like find that we've all
531
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,000
collectively decided.
This is how we're going to
532
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,200
remember him but like
technically it isn't dickish
533
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,700
things.
A lot of dickish things, heck
534
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:24,200
nicley?
But yeah, I guess we can let it.
535
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:27,500
I mean we can let it slide in
certain times but like the way
536
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:31,900
he treats Rachel in these in But
these seasons is pretty shitty.
537
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,300
Me is also the way he treats.
Quinn is pretty shitty because
538
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:42,600
he was with her like, yeah.
He could have made the choice to
539
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,300
stay with her if he really loved
her.
540
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:46,500
And mr.
That much.
541
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,200
Yes.
If he, if you really loved her,
542
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,700
and I guess that's like a, I
mean, that's imposing value,
543
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,100
whatever.
But, yes, you could, you can
544
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,400
argue that if you, if you really
cared about her in a, well, I
545
00:32:58,408 --> 00:33:00,900
mean, he's 16, He can't it's not
how your brain works.
546
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:04,200
But Larry if he was really in
love with her, he could have
547
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,400
said this is a thing that maybe
we can try and work past and I
548
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,800
do want to be a father to this
kid who's not mine and we'll
549
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,500
figure it out, but it was like
and again, he's 16 and there's
550
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:20,700
no way his 16 year old brain is
gonna make that choice, decision
551
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:26,500
or company, just it just led him
to treat Quinn kind of shittily
552
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,000
while they were together because
he wanted Rachel the whole time
553
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
and then Immediately I want when
when he's with Rachel.
554
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,200
Yes.
Yeah.
555
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,100
Which now that you pointed out
is probably accurate 16 year old
556
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:44,100
boy characterization but still
makes them not a great person.
557
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:50,900
Yeah, at least actress Nation I
just think in that's fine.
558
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:55,700
It's sort of like I think fandom
has decided to see him as better
559
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,600
than 16 year old boy.
Yeah I will.
560
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:06,800
I will say I don't I don't
begrudge thin for not going, you
561
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,199
know, trying to make it work
with Quinn.
562
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:12,400
Like I I said last last week and
I stand by it.
563
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Like the girl the person I felt
worse terrible for was Quinn and
564
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,900
I still do because you know,
trying to Be pregnant as of like
565
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,800
15-6, your own girl, can't be
easy, but at the same time, like
566
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,199
Finn did get like two.
I mean, he was an idiot, he
567
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,800
should have realized what was
going on but because you know,
568
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,000
it's not that's not how
pregnancy happens.
569
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,600
But also, right?
I can see how your girlfriend
570
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,800
lying to you about this asking
you to get a job to help support
571
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,300
a child, that she knows isn't
yours, but didn't tell you and
572
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:49,000
lie to you the entire time does
kind of make you go, I know.
573
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,800
No I don't I don't I don't want
to now.
574
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:59,700
Yeah even if I puke.
Yeah and I absolutely understand
575
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,700
that it's just the fact that as
soon as he's with Rachel all
576
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,800
he's doing is romanticizing how
much he misses Quinn that I'm
577
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,900
like now you you walked away
from that.
578
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,700
Yeah yeah yeah.
And it's like fair and fair
579
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:19,000
enough but you don't get to and
I think this does make me.
580
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,300
Think of, you know, again, sort
of what we were talking about
581
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:29,700
with Rachel, is it a symptom of
being being written by men?
582
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:37,100
That how thin is written and has
in regards to how he treats
583
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:42,000
Rachel on how he treats Quinn is
just like, that's how the men
584
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,200
who were writing this show.
See like this, you know, see
585
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,100
that kind of relationship.
Ship a specters help.
586
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:54,000
They see 16 year old boys acting
or how they see that goes.
587
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,300
I think it's hard because it's,
you know, we don't have the
588
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:03,300
luxury of asking them and we
don't have the luxury of
589
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
interviews that you can really
trust like, oh, you know, as, as
590
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,700
the writers, we were really
trying to get, we would try to
591
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:15,200
remember what it was, like being
16, and it's hard to say, one
592
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,400
way or the other sometimes,
especially in something like
593
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,900
this, because you can make the
argument that they were trying
594
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,200
to portray what they thought a
16 year old.
595
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400
You would would do in that
situation or you can also make
596
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
the argument that they were just
like, what's going to make,
597
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,000
what's going to make good TV, or
at least what they thought would
598
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,700
be good TV and I don't really
know.
599
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,800
Yeah, I don't either.
And I'm trying to think of the
600
00:36:41,808 --> 00:36:48,000
exact word I want here, but it's
just I feel like it's a example
601
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,200
of the harmful more like the
talks.
602
00:36:54,300 --> 00:37:00,500
Relationships that you can get
when men and men and women.
603
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,100
And that's sort of I don't know
if this is just them trying to
604
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:09,400
remember and teenagers have
crazy-ass, you know,
605
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600
relationships because they're
teenagers and emotions and
606
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,700
hormones and everything, or if
it's just like, you know, a
607
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:22,200
symptom of how the misogyny that
is somehow ingrained in say, old
608
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,200
white men.
I think it's probably a little
609
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:28,900
Little bit of both.
I would like, which sucks, you
610
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,000
know?
Yeah.
611
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,100
Higher higher Mojave.
Male staff writers?
612
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,700
Yes, maybe sleeping.
Someone even have female staff
613
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,800
writers.
I don't know.
614
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,800
Like, the the credited made
writers are all Brad in.
615
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:50,100
Yeah.
And Murphy first season 1, but I
616
00:37:50,107 --> 00:37:54,800
don't know.
There might be credited staff
617
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,600
writers and I I just haven't
bothered looking Googling at the
618
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,500
second.
This is this is a question.
619
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:08,800
I really, I'm really curious on
what about just Glee writers?
620
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:14,000
I mean, I know we get okay, we
just pulled up in, there are
621
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,800
like there.
Are there are credited writers,
622
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:27,000
who like Marti noxon, and Stacy,
trout wrote episodes.
623
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,600
Some of them wrote, there are
women credited for a number of
624
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:37,400
other episodes, but I'd have to
go through season-by-season to
625
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,900
try and like track down which A
Killer episodes.
626
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:44,200
They're credited for writing.
I feel like there was one
627
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:50,400
earlier that was written by a
woman and because I Led Led Keen
628
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:57,900
is that's a she was a director.
I think you're right.
629
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
So at least they had they did
have a female director.
630
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:11,700
They had she did one.
I mean honestly Brad and then
631
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,800
Murphy had pretty solid control
through season one and two and
632
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,600
then of course they find
something else they like to play
633
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,500
with.
So season 3 is when more people
634
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:26,100
come in and start taking over
like just a quick look.
635
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:30,100
Ali Adler is credited for pot of
gold which For Better or Worse.
636
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,300
Like thanks.
Yeah.
637
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Martinez.
I will set the extraordinary.
638
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Merry Christmas.
Hmm, remember how are
639
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,200
acceptable?
It's fucking practice some
640
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,800
episodes.
How weird is that?
641
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Sure?
I will say LED did three did
642
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,600
three episodes in the in the
first 13 episodes.
643
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:57,800
Which not Not I would say not
normal for most show.
644
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,900
So kudos to you guys for having
a woman direct three episodes.
645
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,500
Yeah.
Unfortunately Network TV has a
646
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:10,800
severe lack of female writers,
and directors and below the Line
647
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,200
crew, like it's all bad, it's
all bad as what I'm saying.
648
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:20,400
But, you know later, she said, I
will give them props for having
649
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,900
having had haven't had a woman
do Fourth.
650
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,600
Now here's something.
We should I think and maybe, you
651
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,900
know, people listening can can
think about to the first two
652
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:36,600
seasons are really.
The rains are held by the
653
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,900
creators, right?
So Ian, Ryan and Brad kind of
654
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,300
have more solid control over
seasons one and two because
655
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:48,500
they're doing the majority of
writing and directing and in
656
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:53,000
season three is when other
people come in and start really
657
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,800
taking over.
At the three of them really step
658
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,700
back because they've got 16,000
other projects.
659
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:06,400
I think we should keep an eye
out for continuity problems and
660
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,900
like characterization problems
as as more and more people try
661
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:15,600
to put their mark on the show
because that's what happens.
662
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,500
In TV shows like this where it
goes on for a long time and you
663
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,400
bring in a number of directors
and writers that each person
664
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,700
tries To put their own little
spin, their own little touch on
665
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,100
it and sometimes it really
shows.
666
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,700
And I think some of the
characterization problems that
667
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:38,800
we really start to see later can
probably be contributed to the
668
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,700
none of the sheer number of
people who have their hands on
669
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:44,300
it.
I'm sure it'll just be
670
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:46,000
interesting to see if that holds
up.
671
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:51,200
Yeah I mean II do think we've
seen enough inconsistent
672
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,700
characterization so far for me
to say?
673
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:57,400
Yeah yeah.
The inconsistency, is it just do
674
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,700
to them bringing in other, you
know, other writers or yeah, of
675
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:06,100
course, but I do, I will say it
would be interesting as we keep
676
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,800
going to go.
Oh yes, here is when I start
677
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,200
seeing a major difference on
Rachel or this.
678
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,700
This starts to make absolutely
no sense because they would in
679
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:19,800
this direction, or this thing
that pops in my head is actually
680
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,500
due to season 4, which was
somebody else.
681
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,900
So, that'll be really
interesting as we keep going to
682
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:30,100
keep that in mind.
Jumping jumping from from that
683
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,300
and off of the thing.
Anyway, that's six years from
684
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:39,000
now, seriously.
One of the things that speak
685
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,600
speaking of, speaking of women,
on Glee, Let's Sue.
686
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Sue Sue.
Yeah, you know, I love Sue
687
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,300
Sylvester.
I think that's, I appreciate
688
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:52,400
her.
I know you guys also love her.
689
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,200
I'm very frustrated with her.
This episode.
690
00:42:55,500 --> 00:43:00,700
Yeah.
It's just, you know, in my in my
691
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:06,800
looking back and remembering the
parts I like, am I am I too, am
692
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,900
I remembering Fannin too much.
I don't know, but my remembrance
693
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,300
of Sue and what I feel like
we've seen so far is yes, she's
694
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,800
chaotic neutral, does some
things are good at some things
695
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:28,000
and a lot of it's just chaos.
Gasps, she wants to fuck over
696
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,600
the Glee Club.
No matter what she's not above
697
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:38,000
sending her Cheerios in to fuck
things up, but interfering in
698
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,300
teen relationships.
Yeah, it's a little more than it
699
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,800
does SU and it made me just go
with the fuck.
700
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Like, that's that, that's weird.
And strange and creepy, and then
701
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,000
and then use the date rape drug
and yeah.
702
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:59,800
Great joke.
I I attribute that to hey white
703
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,100
male, writers are trying to make
house humor but guess what?
704
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,200
You don't get to make Gallows
humor, when you're not standing
705
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,400
on that platform and white men,
old men aren't the ones that are
706
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,400
given date rape drugs.
So I don't care that you had a
707
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,600
woman, do it to a man you don't
get to write that joke.
708
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,700
Yeah.
See I think it very much points
709
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,700
to a room full of male writers,
the think that that would be
710
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:23,900
funny.
Like I think, I don't know how
711
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,900
many Any women and obviously
there are women with
712
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,500
internalized misogyny who would
write that joke trying to be
713
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:33,400
subversive and it's just not
funny, but I think it points to
714
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600
a roomful of men like with it,
you guys, wouldn't it be funny
715
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,900
if Sue dropped a roofie in in
the principal's drink like, no,
716
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,300
no, it's not actually, but thank
you for trying.
717
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,700
Turn it on, turn it on its head
and we had a woman, do it to me
718
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:52,400
and yeah, yeah, exactly art.
We hilarious and creative like,
719
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
oh, you're just assholes It's
not.
720
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:59,900
No, I mean it's again I come
back to black humor.
721
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:01,500
Gallows humor.
That's a thing.
722
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:05,300
That's a legit thing, but when
you're not the one that's
723
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:08,000
standing on those Gallows, you
don't get to make that joke
724
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:11,500
because then you just punching
down and it doesn't matter if
725
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:15,100
you're the one that if you're
giving it to a female character,
726
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:17,800
there are some things I find to
be.
727
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Like, that's not you didn't
hand.
728
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,000
Maybe there's a way to have a
day.
729
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,400
Date rape.
I don't think we need different
730
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,300
drugs.
Like yeah I'm like I say I'm
731
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,100
inclined to agree with you but
I'm willing to say okay maybe
732
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:36,900
there's a way that you can use a
roofie as as a joke or use it in
733
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:42,600
a way that it is a joke but if
so this isn't it.
734
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,800
Hmm.
It's real hard for me to try and
735
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,800
think of any situation in which
I would think.
736
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
Oh that.
That was a great roof Egypt.
737
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Yeah, I think the only way it
could work is if it's How was
738
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,900
ended up the joke was on the
person who did, who did the
739
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:02,300
roofie?
I don't, I don't, I don't know.
740
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:03,700
I haven't really thought this
through.
741
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Like I said, I'm inclined it and
if it, if it ends up with anyone
742
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,200
having sex because they were,
drugged, I feel like that to me
743
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,300
really not funny.
No agree.
744
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,100
Or even just making, some
believe that was that happened.
745
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,700
No, I totally agree with you on
that.
746
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,500
I was, I willing to have it like
Hey, no.
747
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:28,800
There is an example where
date-rape drug is used in a, in
748
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,100
a scene in a way, that's is a
joke.
749
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Maybe that exists.
Maybe does.
750
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,200
I don't particularly think so,
but I'm willing to say maybe it
751
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,900
does either way.
I'm just, I am very disappointed
752
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:47,300
in Sue's characterization and
her entire her, entire
753
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:52,700
everything, this code.
This is not the Sue Sylvester.
754
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:56,200
I signed up for God damn it.
Yeah, she's definitely a
755
00:46:56,207 --> 00:47:00,500
character that they never quite
they never quite solidify in
756
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,900
their own minds.
What she's meant for and who she
757
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,100
is.
Like she definitely just starts
758
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,400
out as a foil who supposed to be
kind of funny and irreverent and
759
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:13,200
says mean things and she's the
foil but that that's not a
760
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,100
character that lasts for six
seasons.
761
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:19,100
Like you can't just keep Doing
that.
762
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:22,300
It becomes like Scooby-Doo, you
know, like, oh, it's Sue again.
763
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:28,700
But they do like they just never
there.
764
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:34,900
Never able to figure out her her
as a person and they tried.
765
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:39,600
They tried like her sister and
it never coalesces into a human
766
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,800
being in.
There's a big difference for me
767
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:50,700
from sue, his abusive Verbally,
so, and terrible person.
768
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:56,700
And there is using a date rape
drug to tell somebody that that
769
00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,600
literally not even just like
that, something happened.
770
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
But also also figgins, I'm
pretty sure was married.
771
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,800
So, yes, like there's a lot
there and I'm like, that's bad.
772
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,300
That's a whole different kind
of, maybe I'm misremembering,
773
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:16,000
maybe figgins isn't married?
But like, if he is, I feel like
774
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,900
that's an even extra layer of
like on his soul and I don't
775
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:24,400
like figgins but I also like
that's not It's a whole other
776
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,100
level guys.
So yeah, definitely down to
777
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,200
mail, men and men in a writing
room that think this is funny.
778
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:38,300
It's not and it's, and it's FYI
to anybody that's writing, maybe
779
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:43,200
don't use that as like a
punchline and and the store dear
780
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,000
future writers or scrapes not
funny.
781
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:50,500
That's why I just, you know
we're here for to help you.
782
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,100
We're here to give you tips tips
that you may not have come up.
783
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,400
Not you can go to school for
this kind of information but
784
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,900
we're going to give it to you
for free rapes.
785
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:01,400
Not funny.
You're welcome.
786
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Glad we could help with that.
Saving you some money on grad
787
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,600
school.
Yeah.
788
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,100
And if anyone needs a PowerPoint
presentation, that is one slide
789
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,200
that says that we can provide
them.
790
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:18,700
Yes, we can we can give you is
this joke about rape?
791
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:20,500
Yes.
No, it's not funny.
792
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:25,200
No, it's not.
It might be funny.
793
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,200
We can put it up on the website.
So 11 frame.
794
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:36,800
That will be available for
everybody later available on
795
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,700
t-shirts and buttons.
Please feel free to reference
796
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,600
for you.
So a couple other random things
797
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,600
that I have written down that
are in a slightly happier.
798
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:52,100
Okay, what vein has been a
depressing chat so far, actually
799
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:55,100
hasn't.
Let me, let me lighten it up
800
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,600
with one dolphins.
Are gay sharks?
801
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:01,700
Yes, yeah, yeah.
That happened.
802
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,900
This episode.
There are a couple dare, we say
803
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:07,100
it iconically lines, that's one
of them.
804
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,800
The other is, no, she's dead.
This is her son.
805
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,100
I'd actually don't know if Chris
improv that line.
806
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,600
I could be.
I could be totally making this
807
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,900
up.
Hold on.
808
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:22,600
Yeah, I thought he improved it
because that's something that
809
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,300
actually happens to him.
But actually happened to him.
810
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,400
Yeah, we got bread sticks.
We got our this is our first
811
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,300
bread sticks or they've been a
breadsticks before and if into
812
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:34,600
bread sticks before.
Okay?
813
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,700
But we did get Lauren zizes who
I don't even know.
814
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:42,100
I don't know if I like her or if
I can't stand her and I just
815
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:43,500
don't even remember at this
point.
816
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,300
I feel like I don't end up
liking her, but she's another
817
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:50,300
one that started out as a
character that that might have
818
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,400
been.
Yeah, funny.
819
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,100
And then they just like drove it
into the ground with the bad
820
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,700
qualities.
Yeah, absolutely I would like to
821
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:00,200
add.
Okay.
822
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,100
So yes, they've been to
breadsticks before but this was
823
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,400
the first episode that they the
first appearance of the
824
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,900
breadsticks theme music cue.
There's a breadstick.
825
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:15,100
See music.
You see other.
826
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:20,000
All right, I'm glad they put
that much effort into it but not
827
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:23,400
like the plot.
There are so many things that
828
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,600
they are.
There's so much.
829
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,100
They put so much effort into it.
I was talking with.
830
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,100
Mandy about something on season
3 so guess what you guys have to
831
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:33,400
hang around for a while.
To get to hear all of that
832
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:40,100
conversation.
But like hair makeup wardrobe.
833
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:45,900
Like there are so many things
that had so much care and effort
834
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:49,300
put into it, and then you're
like, but what about like, the
835
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:53,700
plot, I know, I'm glad you spent
so much time, coordinating
836
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,300
outfits, but you couldn't
actually write a story like, I
837
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:01,700
would not trust season.
For if somebody said no, this is
838
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:06,400
the the writers totally meant
for this based on this other
839
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,200
thing that happened, you can see
they meant for the this
840
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,200
parallel.
I would say bullshit because the
841
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,500
right, I don't trust the
writers.
842
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:18,700
If you came to me and said, no,
The Outfits, coordinating means
843
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:21,700
this, and it's, and it's, and
it's a take off of what, you
844
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:24,600
know, it take.
It's a flip of what the Trope
845
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,300
that happened in a season prior
because They wore the same kind
846
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:30,200
of thing, I'd be like.
Yes.
847
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,800
Yeah.
Believe you because wardrobe did
848
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,600
that shit.
Yeah.
849
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,200
Wardrobe was definitely
operating on him.
850
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,000
Different.
There are, they were like, I'm
851
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,200
not really brothers Bo love
nothing.
852
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,700
But they, they were.
There were legitimate show,
853
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,200
right?
Right, yeah.
854
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,000
They were like an cable levels
of operating maybe not pay
855
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:58,100
cable, but cable, and, and yeah.
So I do, I do I do trust them.
856
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,100
So yeah, we had.
We had a breadsticks music cue.
857
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:05,100
That's where this started.
All right.
858
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,000
Brett 6, music, you breadsticks
waitress.
859
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:10,400
Hmm.
He's around all the time.
860
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:15,700
So, yeah, I was a lot, but I
think happened in this episode
861
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:22,100
that I feel was iconic to just
our understanding, our being
862
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:27,500
fandom, how we gaped a lot of
the characters in our brain, in
863
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:31,400
our, in our, how we wrote them
How we like understood them
864
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,500
because so it's interesting that
it went back for me going is
865
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:40,300
back as far as season one.
I thought a lot of what I took
866
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,100
from the characters were all
season two so that was kind of
867
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:47,800
an interesting thing to go.
Oh, I didn't realize some of
868
00:53:47,808 --> 00:53:51,800
this was season one.
Yeah, I have a, I have just a
869
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:57,300
small Petty points.
If I may no, we don't do petty
870
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:02,300
here.
Um, Why is Emma's office so big?
871
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:06,800
And why is it glassed-in with
like glass windows when she is
872
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,000
the fucking guidance, counselor?
Because we're good point.
873
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:17,300
If I'm speaking to a guidance
counselor, the last thing I want
874
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:22,700
is the entire school to see me.
Possibly crying, but at least
875
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,300
having a serious emotional
conversation with somebody in
876
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:27,200
the middle of the day.
Okay.
877
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,000
And actually I see your point
all counter.
878
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:35,000
Would you tell Emma Pillsbury
something deeply emotional and
879
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,300
upsetting?
No, but I would at least take a
880
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,600
pamphlet from her and I don't
want the whole school to know
881
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,100
what pamphlets I'm taking.
Let me put them in my backpack.
882
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:47,900
First before I leave her pipes.
They're not just the ocean, but
883
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:50,900
if we wanted to have a serious
conversation with your partner
884
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:59,600
about like the level of tan,
your hands are you might work, I
885
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,100
was hoping that was I want to
hide my tan hands and I don't
886
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:07,800
need for the ceiling glass.
Windows, Blaine, why are you
887
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,200
putting so much moisture, right
on your moisturizer on your
888
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,400
hands?
That is a question for us to
889
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,000
revisit in a few seasons.
I think we know why I'm also not
890
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000
a question.
I would want him answering in
891
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,100
front of a glass.
Yeah, and I glass or Emma,
892
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:26,200
probably or Emma.
Also is Emma Pillsbury not going
893
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,300
to stand for those glass windows
ever being remotely.
894
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,700
Streaky.
How, like, how much I hurt.
895
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,500
Yes, or cleaning.
She has to spend six of her
896
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,300
eight hours, cleaning the
windows.
897
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,600
The other two hours are devoted
to printing pamphlets.
898
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,100
Yes.
Anyway, for the first time, I
899
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:52,500
was like, wait a minute.
Actually, speaking of Emma last
900
00:55:52,500 --> 00:56:01,900
episode, we ended Emma in my
opinion, writing lie, saying
901
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,400
fuck this shit.
I'm out verbatim.
902
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:10,400
I'm I am, I'm giving you word
for word this episode Emma.
903
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:16,400
We have no, like, there's no
commentary to.
904
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:21,200
Hey, I'm so glad you're back or
decided not to leave, or we
905
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,100
blackmailed you into staying
nothing?
906
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,300
Yeah, nothing.
We don't fund it logic.
907
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,200
It's straight-up.
Fuck it.
908
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,800
Logic.
And my question, my question is,
909
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,600
how did how did Emma come back?
Well, there probably aren't that
910
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,900
many guidance counselors in
Lima, Ohio.
911
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:42,600
So to realize to moving or
she'll She went to a different
912
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,000
school.
It was really dirty, wasn't able
913
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,900
to clear to the point to the
developing levels of necessity
914
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:55,700
and so left.
Yes, cool, it's gonna go away.
915
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:03,300
I also have on here and I have I
have a note here as a question
916
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:08,600
to the audience.
So there was a trivia note on on
917
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,600
this episode that I found really
interesting.
918
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,600
The the pinky holding that we
see from Santana and Brittany, I
919
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,900
guess we see it.
You know, we definitely see it
920
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:25,600
in this episode.
The note says that's something
921
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,500
that came from Nia and Heather
and Ryan liked it and wrote it
922
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:32,400
in because again, Glee's not a
documentary.
923
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:38,500
My question is, like, the third
was there, like a interview that
924
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,400
that confirmed, that is there
something from Nia or Heather or
925
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,300
Ryan?
Like saying this is what
926
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:47,900
happened.
I have no memory of this.
927
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:49,900
I have no memory of it.
Being Nyan Heather.
928
00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:52,900
That did this.
So I'm just trying to figure out
929
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:56,400
where it came from.
So people that are, that are may
930
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,900
know, or are aware of how or
why, that is a thing, I would
931
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:04,000
like to know, I get those those
like, yeah.
932
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,100
Ah, shippers back around.
If you're still hanging around
933
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,600
hanging around and listening to
us.
934
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:15,500
Hi, how are you, what is this?
I would like to know.
935
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,200
So, that's all, that's all I've
got here on my, on my list of
936
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,000
things that happened.
This episode anything, anything
937
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,100
else standing out for you guys?
Well, not the songs.
938
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:31,100
Do we want to talk about Terry
and Emma or we should not not
939
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:34,000
even so much Terry and Emma as
the bad choice.
940
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,000
Is the Will Schuester continues
to make that hurt people in his
941
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,700
life.
Yeah, that's definitely talk
942
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:47,000
about that, you know, like
again, he just dumped his wife
943
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,600
and he's got Emma all up in the
home, he shared with his wife,
944
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:58,200
watching their movies, eating on
their table, like weeks a month
945
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:03,900
after the breakup, and he
doesn't He's all surprised when
946
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:05,100
Terry shows that.
Yeah.
947
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,300
And then he makes out shell
because that fucking makes sense
948
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:14,000
to also maybe it's my really
cynical read of shoot, Schuster
949
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:21,200
read, accurate reader Schuester.
I saw shoes making out what
950
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,500
she'll be a result of Emma.
Basically saying she wanted to
951
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:30,700
go slow because of her / issues.
That's what I saw it as a yeah.
952
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,200
Yeah definitely.
Like that.
953
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:38,300
Oh, I don't, We're not gonna
make out or do other things I'm
954
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:42,300
going to, and maybe it wasn't a
conscious choice on Schuster's
955
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,000
part to go off.
Therefore, I'm going to go find
956
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,200
somebody else to actually make
out with, but I saw it as a, a
957
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,900
cause, and effect.
That that is literally how I saw
958
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:54,600
it as which again.
Mr. Is the worst kind of person?
959
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:56,900
Yeah.
Yes.
960
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:02,500
Because like that, Emma's a
strange character because Does
961
01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:08,000
she has her OCD, which is a not
problematic but like it's a
962
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,900
rough thing to have and a TV
show because everyone's
963
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,800
presentation of the disorder is
different.
964
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,800
And how do you distill it down
to one characters behaviors?
965
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,200
And for Emma, it kind of comes
and goes, depending on what like
966
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,700
the visual gag of the scene.
Is right?
967
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:27,200
Like sometimes she's in full
gloves and an apron washing
968
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,000
grapes, and other times.
She's in someone else's house
969
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,600
setting their table and cooking.
Things.
970
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,300
Right?
Like it.
971
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,800
That doesn't bother her enough
to stop it, but she is.
972
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,500
Yeah.
So just kind of depends on what
973
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:41,900
the scene needs.
But, you know, her her
974
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:44,900
reluctance to engage in any sort
of physical relationship with
975
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:48,100
someone is deeply, rooted in a
lot of psychological and
976
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:51,500
emotional issues for her.
And it doesn't really come up
977
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:57,400
again and its treated as a, as a
like, a reason for shoe to have
978
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,800
another emotional moment, right?
She tells him This deeply
979
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,300
personal and probably very
embarrassing thing that a lot of
980
01:01:06,308 --> 01:01:10,400
people would look down on and
his reaction is to make out with
981
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,300
somebody else.
Yeah.
982
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:22,000
Like I think the inevitable
response of we should deal with
983
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,100
our own shit is the right
response?
984
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Yes.
But it came out the wrong
985
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,000
fucking way.
Yeah.
986
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,000
Like not you shouldn't even
jump.
987
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,100
Dress relationship, you should
have said, cool.
988
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,100
I still really like you we but
we need to deal with our issues
989
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:41,000
first and then let's try this.
But like yeah that is that is
990
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,500
just it's just further proof to
me that like either.
991
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:49,400
I mean, one juicers a terrible
person but also just really
992
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,400
feels and especially this
episode how much a lot of what
993
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,900
is written is written by men?
Yeah, because I'm like, you had
994
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,000
a woman being very vulnerable
about something.
995
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,500
That would be very You know that
a lot of people have is, you
996
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:10,400
know, issues with or just see
negatively and your reaction is
997
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,100
to write the male character, go
make out with somebody else.
998
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:20,500
Okay, and you want me to think
of him sympathetically.
999
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,300
Yeah, cool, cool.
All right, all right fine.
1000
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,300
I'm say if you think that if you
think that's that's okay then
1001
01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:34,400
like imagine it was flipped
around and you know Schuster had
1002
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,200
an issue and told Emma and Emma
went and made out with some
1003
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,500
other guy.
Yeah.
1004
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:42,400
If you like that, if you feel
like that make her a bitch then
1005
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:48,300
yeah you have a problem with it.
Yeah, so we'll double standards
1006
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,800
ghosts don't exist.
No one, no one ever treats women
1007
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:59,100
and men differently.
No, no, he's just a silly woman.
1008
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,300
You don't understand.
Emily died.
1009
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:06,800
I know, I know I just I just got
to get back to my needlepoint
1010
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,700
and washing clothes by hand.
Yeah, if you could fix fix those
1011
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,500
patches on the socks and maybe
darn a few X.
1012
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:16,700
Things.
You know what you?
1013
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:20,500
I don't even know what to do to
be perfectly honest.
1014
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,900
If I could darn a pair of socks,
my life would probably be a lot
1015
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:28,100
better, but I never learned how
like I would wear.
1016
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,400
This is where our cohort.
Our generation is that we were
1017
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,300
like, look at.
We could fucking make our own
1018
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:39,600
socks, we fucking would.
Okay, I wish I could admit my
1019
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,500
hands don't do the thing.
Like I can't, I don't tithe
1020
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,600
Those are Boomer parents decided
not to learn and teach us.
1021
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,400
Thank you Boomers.
I will blame you for everything
1022
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,900
bringing it back around.
Yeah.
1023
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:58,500
Fuck you.
Boo - yeah, you know, no,
1024
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:01,900
disrespect a needle pointers and
is, can't do that shit.
1025
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:04,100
I don't know how I wish I could
knit, I can't.
1026
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:06,300
And I'm not going to learn
because I don't have that kind
1027
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:10,200
of patience needle points
fucking intricate as shit.
1028
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:16,200
Like, I can't see that.
Well, I heard I have bad Vision.
1029
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,500
I don't need myopia.
Oh yeah, I already can't see far
1030
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,500
away.
I don't need to know, I can't
1031
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,900
can't afford new glasses.
I can't pull this shit.
1032
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,800
All right, bringing this back to
Glee, sorry, sorry.
1033
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:31,600
This is a side into
intergenerational issues that I
1034
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,800
feel most of you understand.
But if never done exciting
1035
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,800
Brands, never, we do here.
All right, so, okay cool.
1036
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,800
We added, we added an extra
function, To which I appreciate.
1037
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,300
I'm always here for this
anything.
1038
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,400
Anything else that we may have?
We may have missed going on
1039
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,500
because episode.
Did anyone like any of the
1040
01:04:53,508 --> 01:04:55,700
songs?
I like the originals.
1041
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,400
Really?
Yeah yeah.
1042
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,500
Is one of my favorite songs.
Done by The Beatles.
1043
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:05,800
Yeah I'm sorry.
Who the Beatles?
1044
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,700
I don't I've never there's
there's one person that's
1045
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,500
allowed to do.
Nah.
1046
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,900
Non this ought to do Beatles
songs other than the Beatles and
1047
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:17,000
his name is Chris Colfer and he
did not get a starring role in
1048
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,000
the song.
I will accept accept his Beatles
1049
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:29,500
songs because he did good ones.
I thought, Rachel trying to sing
1050
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:33,600
an on Broadway song was kind of
Various yes she did.
1051
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,700
Real it off, in my opinion, not
at all.
1052
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:39,700
Lea Michele is not a pop singer.
Okay.
1053
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:45,300
Can I leave I don't want to get
into like a total discussion
1054
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:48,400
with and I know people really
like Lea Michele and I hope
1055
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,400
everyone is having a great time
in d.c. right now at the show
1056
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:59,900
and fantastic that were there.
But like I there's a line in the
1057
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:04,400
show from this episode.
Where I wrote it down because
1058
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,200
it's like, yes, this is exactly
my problem with Lea Michele and
1059
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:10,400
fuck me.
Where is it?
1060
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:15,300
Oh, it's I think it's Jessie st.
James is or Shelby or one of
1061
01:06:15,308 --> 01:06:20,300
them saying that Rachel lacked
barbra's, emotional depth in.
1062
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:23,600
Don't Rain on My Parade and I
was like, yes, that is my
1063
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,000
problem with Lea Michele singing
is that it lacks emotional
1064
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,200
depth?
She has a lot of technical
1065
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,300
skill, but there's always I'm
missing for me and sometimes it
1066
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:39,700
makes it hard to to not focus on
the song but to like, really
1067
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,800
feel what her character is
supposed to be feeling because I
1068
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,600
just don't hear it and then like
Mercedes you can kind of feel
1069
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,400
it.
Honestly Santana when she sings
1070
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:56,700
you like feel it even if it's
not the same technical ability.
1071
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,800
There's like a it's that
emotional depth and it's like a
1072
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:03,900
it's a skill.
That's Very different but I just
1073
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,600
like again, if you love Lea
Michele, God bless you have a
1074
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,400
great time but it's the thing I
can never quite get past.
1075
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,700
Do you think it's?
Because Lea Michele can't read.
1076
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:21,400
So she can't like the motion.
I mean that's probably it's
1077
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:31,500
probably it is happening.
Going off telling her she just
1078
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:35,000
has To listen to the song and
doesn't actually really get into
1079
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,500
it.
It's probably a yeah You Got Me
1080
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,900
ii will say yeah, I think it's
not something I realized with a
1081
01:07:42,908 --> 01:07:46,900
lot because I without a doubt,
she has a Flawless voice, her
1082
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:52,000
voice is fucking amazing, and I
am not a technical.
1083
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,000
I'm not a singer, I'm just I'm
not a technical singer, any kind
1084
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,000
of singer.
Technically, I'm a, I'm a, I'm
1085
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,200
a, let me turn the music up.
Sing really loud in my car and
1086
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,600
so I can't hear myself over out
of the song and it sounds like
1087
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,200
I'm singing really.
Well, that's the kind of thing
1088
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,600
where I am.
Yes.
1089
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,100
But so that being sad, she's
phenomenal.
1090
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,000
She does so much better with
Broadway than she does with pop
1091
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,100
songs and I think that's just
how her voice is on how she was
1092
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:22,100
trained.
Yeah.
1093
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:26,600
But I have had issues with some
of her songs just like I'm just
1094
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,800
like, okay.
That's Technically done.
1095
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,399
Well, like that's very she can
sing that song.
1096
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,100
It sounds great.
But like I just I just don't it
1097
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:38,899
doesn't do anything for me.
It wasn't really made that cake
1098
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:45,000
because yeah, Nia.
I'd say I've definitely met
1099
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:51,000
Amber a lot.
There's a, I was a Kris his
1100
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,200
daring.
I even even goodness gracious.
1101
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,200
What's Marley's girl named yes
for girl.
1102
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:01,300
Never heard of you.
It's Unique.
1103
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:06,800
Yeah, I mean Tina.
Yeah, again using using
1104
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,100
characters and actors names
indiscriminately.
1105
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:11,300
That's that's my that's my
motto.
1106
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:17,399
But yeah, there, there
definitely is something to
1107
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:21,100
adding that emotion with it.
You don't just hear it.
1108
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,200
And, and that's interesting that
they put that into Rachel
1109
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:30,100
because yeah, even when even
when she's singing about Finn,
1110
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:36,100
it's like, it's almost like a
pantomime of or like, an alien
1111
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:42,600
who is like, trying to protect
the humans and is like, I'm
1112
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,300
showing the emotions that I know
a human is supposed to show
1113
01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:47,000
right now.
And of course not saying me and
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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,600
Michelle is nailing.
She's obviously human.
1115
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,000
You just can't read it.
Shut Abby.
1116
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,700
That wouldn't let her not being
able to read.
1117
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:59,500
I mean maybe she reads Credibly
well in her own language.
1118
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:02,200
Yeah, if you're gonna get the
fuck out.
1119
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,100
So clearly the that was the
whole thing.
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01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:13,700
Lea Michele alien.
Yeah, Donna, we have answered so
1121
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,900
many questions.
Most this episode we have
1122
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:20,000
questions, that should have
remained unanswered questions
1123
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,700
that were never asked questions.
We answer, nobody needed to
1124
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:27,300
know, Nobody asked me these
questions.
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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,600
That is our job to answer the
questions.
1126
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,200
Nobody asked.
Nobody sue us.
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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,600
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly
Lea Michele is an alien.
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01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:45,800
So when I add that in there,
okay, so we forgot to do this
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01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:51,300
last episode and is greatly on
behalf of everybody.
1130
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,800
I have, let not only you down,
but us dead.
1131
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,400
Um and I've let Kevin McHale
down with so for that, I
1132
01:10:58,407 --> 01:11:02,200
apologize.
Yeah we did we really really
1133
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:09,200
drop the Kevin, the chair of the
cabinet office That said, how
1134
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,700
many, how many cabins was this?
Was this episode out of 125 like
1135
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,300
a half of one, if that if that
like maybe just a quarter
1136
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:22,600
because he was in the song sort
of, yeah, I mean I would go with
1137
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,400
a quarter, a quarter, Kevin it
was pretty bad, it was pretty
1138
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:31,200
bad.
Was that pretty despite this
1139
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,600
being having, despite this
episode having everybody in the
1140
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,300
cast in it which side note won't
happen again until purple piano
1141
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,900
project which what the fuck
really seriously?
1142
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:47,200
But that being said, ya know,
very, very minimal.
1143
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,800
Kevin, I will back you guys up
quarter, Kevin or to Kevin's
1144
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:58,300
was.
So we talked about Jesse and
1145
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:00,500
Shelby.
And how just seen Rachel?
1146
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,700
Maybe you should have been a
thing and but we'll never know.
1147
01:12:03,700 --> 01:12:06,400
That didn't happen?
Do you perhaps want to say that
1148
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,200
they could have had it all if
they were rolling in the deep?
1149
01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:12,400
I wasn't going to go there, but
I guess we did.
1150
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:15,000
They could have, they could have
had it all.
1151
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,700
I go for the nobody fruit.
I mean, somebody's got to pick
1152
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:22,100
it.
That's all I've got the
1153
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,900
blatantly unfortunate.
Misogyny that existed in this.
1154
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,400
Like into least to us maybe not
to the writers because you know
1155
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:39,900
men Pete jerky men, the bit of
fandom that existed that we get
1156
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:43,100
at the beginning of this with
some some actual great lines,
1157
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:48,800
great improv, blind some great
improv'd, characterization Su
1158
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,500
not being great.
And Finn being the absolute
1159
01:12:53,500 --> 01:12:56,500
worst because fucker likes
Hawaiian pizza.
1160
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,400
But apparently so does Cooper
blank.
1161
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,300
Wasn't if it is the Cooper it's
good enough for me.
1162
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:12,000
Well, allow it anything else?
No, we can talk about Lauren's.
1163
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000
I see it later.
I we don't talk about her now.
1164
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,600
Yeah, it's like you just pop up.
There'll be plenty of chances to
1165
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,400
talk about her.
Yeah, we'll get it, we'll get
1166
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,000
it.
I can't wait to get to talking
1167
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,700
about her versus fan in her.
Yeah.
1168
01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,900
That could be like an entire
episode dr.
1169
01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:29,900
Fannin.
It's coming.
1170
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:34,700
Okay.
That that is an episode that all
1171
01:13:34,708 --> 01:13:40,600
right with with that I guess
I've got left to say is well
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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:58,200
that's what you missed on Glee.
That Farmers Insurance, we know
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01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,800
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We've seen a car ran into a
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roof, and we've even seen a car
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Hello and welcome back to Glee
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on the Rocks.
We are happy to have you here
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I'm F.
I'm Emily.
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And I'm Mandy.
And this is episode 13 where we
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talk about.
Hello.
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Episode 14 of Glee is first
season and it doesn't bother my
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OCD at all that were on episode
13 but also episode 14.
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That's just something we're
going to have to deal with as a
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group.
Anyway, hello.
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Actually your honor episode 12.
It's actually a pisode 12 that
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doesn't that makes it so much
better.
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It's we've got two double
features, Cool.
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My accounting is words are words
and numbers are hard.
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So, you know, that makes
podcasting super easy all around
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and a great idea for me to do it
anymore.
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Hopefully, it doesn't help that
our first episode was episode 0
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because it was an intro, it's a
whole thing.
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We really fucked up.
We tried to make this as
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complicated for you guys as
possible.
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That's to the point which is
hello episode 14, which
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premiered on April 13th. 2010
after a four-month, Hiatus was
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watched by 13.6 million people
which is the second highest of,
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you know, of the series was
directed by Brad falchuk and
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written by Ian Brennan and so
fresh off their Monumental win
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at sectionals.
New directions is on top of the
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world with an extra spring in
their step, they get to work on
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new numbers for regionals.
But when Rachel, and Finn's
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budding romance, hits, a bump in
the road, after she becomes
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involved with a competitor,
Jessie st.
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James, it threatens to derail
the entire Club mr.
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Schuester, pays a visit to
Shelby Corcoran coach of vocal
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adrenaline to confirm Jesse's
motives because that's normal.
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Meanwhile, we'll is newly single
but he is ready to.
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But is he ready to take his
relationship?
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Ship with Emma to the next
level.
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And to top it all off, Sue
Sylvester returns from her condo
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in Boca but the renewed focus on
destroying will and this
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abandoned disbanding, the Glee
Club, that's what you missed on
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Glee.
Yay.
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Which fun fact as noted earlier
here, that this was the first
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episode, we got the here's what
you missed on Glee, which came
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to be very, very common.
That would, yes, yes, thank you.
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It's hard to use the word icon
when it comes to, but I guess in
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context, I mean, I feel like
there are a few things that you
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can say.
These are, this is Iconic of the
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show.
Weird writing characterization,
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that makes no sense,
breadsticks, blamed words in age
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that never happened.
Here's which would be another
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one.
Yep, this, this was an
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interesting episode.
This was a Yeah, I feel like you
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can kind of tell that it was a
bit of a reset after previous
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episode, which was absolutely
written as a finale and then was
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turned into a mid season finale.
And now we're at the top of the
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second act of the season.
And we're trying to throw out
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some new storylines with vocal
adrenaline, and Jessie st.
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James and Will, and Emma.
What's guess it's on a new
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storyline, but it's, you know,
And Emma - Terry, although, you
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know, we're back with Finn and
Rachel, and Finn, and Rachel and
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off, and on, and then.
So there's, there's the constant
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threads of things.
But it does feel like they're
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trying to Get a new breath of
fresh air.
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So to speak, to keep to keep
going to the end of the season.
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Which didn't really make sense
to me.
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Like, we didn't you didn't need
to do like, a whole reset.
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Like, you could have just been
like cool keep going.
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Yeah, I mean yeah.
So like part act, one of the
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seasoning was getting to
sectionals and that has a whole
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Arc and they win.
And now act two is getting to
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Regionals and it's going to have
a very similar Arc.
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If I remember with ups and downs
and Sue getting in the way, And
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relationships getting the way
and on and off again and she
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making choices and it does kind
of what I remember.
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I guess we'll have to watch and
remind ourselves what the hell
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is going on, but it's somewhat
similar in that they had their
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goal is winning a competition
again.
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Yeah, I just, I felt like yeah
yeah.
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I mean you didn't have to I mean
yeah you kind of reset but at
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the same time like you didn't
really need to just like be like
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cool.
Let's just been like let's go
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from here because Uh yeah we're
pretty much going to be doing
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the same thing.
Different things may be coming
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in and out but yeah, I mean
relationship drama admit amongst
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trying to win a competition
drama.
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Yeah, I mean well I just
distilled Glee Dad.
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Yeah, I guess that's what you
missed on Glee.
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That's she was smuggling.
All right.
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Done, we're done.
Here we figured it out.
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This has been great.
It's really nice talking to you
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guys.
And And a great, you know, 12
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episodes.
We've done Hood red.
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I don't think we need to keep
going.
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Better, wrap it up.
We'll see you next time.
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Bye.
I mean I guess since we've still
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got this time you might as well
talk about things.
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We'll just yeah.
Then you have a casual
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conversation about the episode
between ourselves just us.
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That would be a very different
conversation if it wasn't being
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recorded.
True.
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FYI, the conversation pre and
post recording is very nice.
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It's also very different is also
a reason it's not recorded,
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okay?
So, I thought this was one of
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shoes, like weaker lesson plans.
Like sometimes you can tell his
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lesson plans, kind of fit the
matically, what's happening and
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you get white, we're going to
like you get y, key pairs them
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up, sometimes like, hey, my
students are fighting.
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Let's try Can work together even
though it's like the wrong thing
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to do but this thing with hello
and reintroducing yourself to
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yourself and like it just felt
this time, it really felt like
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they had some songs that they
wanted to use or someone in the
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writers room was like, when it'd
be funny, if all of the songs,
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have the word, hello and them.
And then they tried to build a
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lesson around it, but couldn't
really get one that made any
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sense.
I think that's something Glee
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did.
I'd like as a staple later on
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but this was the first time it
was really obvious.
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Yeah, it just felt really
apparent.
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That someone was like guys.
There's some really famous songs
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that all start with.
Hello.
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Let's put them in an episode.
Well and then it also feels
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really on the nose because
they're like, let's put them all
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in episode soon as we come back.
Yeah, Hiatus.
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Yeah.
Like it's really, really sad.
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That Adele hadn't come out with
hello yet.
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Cuz that would have been The
more on the nose and now, they
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should like, redo the episode
with hello.
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Okay.
But who would see?
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Okay, who would sing the best
version of, hello?
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I mean, we'll probably Mercedes
but I bet Tina could actually do
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a really pretty good version but
I think I think Mercedes could
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probably do the Adele long whale
better than some others.
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Interesting.
Okay.
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I was also thinking Nia.
Oh yeah.
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Nia is a, but I mean, I Mercedes
has character and an actor named
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interchangeably.
Mercedes, you know, she has a
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Powerhouse of a voice, but
Santana, I don't think she's
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that she wasn't really given a
chance.
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And so far at least in season
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and the strip God amazing.
She really does actually a lot
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of this.
A lot of my favorite songs are
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Santana songs, Just because they
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She's got that, she's got that
perfect voice for wearing a
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really Slinky red, satin dress
being in a piano bar late at
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night in New York.
Yeah.
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And you're being whiskey and
it's very smoky and the lights
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are low and she's just singing
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I haven't a pictured.
This at all.
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I was I feel like, maybe you've
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That's what I'm not going to say
that.
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It's also blamed on the piano.
That's It's fine.
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I have absolutely seen that fan
art, though.
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Look, I'm here. 100% 1000%.
Yeah, I guess so.
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I get the award for bringing
Blaine it early.
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Dip.
Yeah, the earliest possible.
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Yes.
Yeah continue as you say the the
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big thing with this with this
episode is obviously the
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introduction of Jessie st.
James and and Shelby Corcoran.
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Yep.
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So that that being a big Point
let's let's kind of jump on into
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that.
Thoughts on Shelby Corcoran and
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or Jessie st.
James I am God.
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Don't hate them.
I don't hate them.
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I think I think a rival Glee
Club member is a great idea and
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Jonathan Groff is super talented
and super cute and knows how to
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do a show choir face and a show
choir song and it he looked he's
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got that baby face so he doesn't
look totally out of place to be
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in high school even though he is
you know question is Jonathan
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Groff in a glee club.
I'm Googling I don't know ask
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lin-manuel Miranda I'm sure he's
now ask his boyfriend, asked his
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friend Lynn I sat behind graph
at a show once and I didn't
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realize it was him until someone
else pointed him out.
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It was like oh hey I don't know.
I like Jesse and I like that he
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is lying and I like that.
He's actually a bit of a villain
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and I don't need him to be
redeemed in a way like what's
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wrong with just having it.
The Sue Sylvester Factor like,
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what's wrong with just having
some villains on this show.
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I definitely agree with that,
and I think the problem with any
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character who stays around too
long is that the show wants to
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redeem them.
Yeah, and it does eventually
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happen with Jesse but for season
one, he's a really good just
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like, asshole character.
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Yes, he plays her and it works
and, you know, I will, I hear
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you.
But however, I hear you Aunt,
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but I'm going to make the I
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it's an unpopular opinion.
I don't know, but I always felt
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that Jessie st.
James made way more sense being
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with Rachel then fit.
Oh, and yes.
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Oh yeah.
Like so even though, yes, he
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ended up being a villain and he
didn't need to be, he didn't
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need to be redeemed.
Part of me, always did want him
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to be redeemed because I'm like,
no mmmm, not mean, what what
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should have happened?
Was Rachel realized that like
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she was actually kind of a
villain character all along too
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and they just bonded over that.
Yeah, we just bonded over
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wanting to win and willing to
do.
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Whatever it takes to get, there
are agencies that she would have
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egged somebody.
Yeah, if she had thought of it
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and frankly that's exactly what
she did to Sunshine.
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Yeah, every true.
Yeah like she is just thinking
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of that story.
She really is and it works like
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they complement each other and
interesting ways.
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I know.
Yeah.
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And there's not this like
hemming and hawing about it the
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way fin, especially in this
episode's.
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Like, I don't know if I want her
as a girlfriend.
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She's kind of annoying, but I
guess I'm going to anyway.
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Like, but what kind of
half-assed weird shit is that?
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And as as time goes, I think.
I see if it had gone a different
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trajectory it.
I think you'd have a pretty
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interesting Arc, but as he
stands in the first season, I
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dig it.
And yeah, I think you would make
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a better.
What would it be like to be like
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enemies to begrudging respect to
friends of ours?
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Well, no, I mean, as you point
out there, they're very much the
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exact like the exact same
character.
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He made Jessie st.
James, maybe turned up a few
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more notches than Rachel.
If you can't even imagine that.
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At right?
Um, but they both you know, they
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both go from a sense of, you
know passion and everything they
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do is just they're very
passionate about it.
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They're very decisive, they're
very much like this is this is
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about me, this is what I'm
doing.
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I've everything is for me to get
to this point and I have this
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dream in this goal and that
makes sense because then you
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could compare that to offend God
bless him.
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But he's just he's very
indecisive.
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He's Wishy-washy.
He doesn't know what he wants.
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Really?
Yeah, monster half the time and
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so you kind of go cool.
I mean Opposites Attract to get
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yes but at the same time like I
did only go so far until it's
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like cool.
What do we have in common?
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Yeah.
And what do we have?
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And and so yeah, I like Jesse
and Rachel and I thought it was
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an interesting, an interesting
thing to throw in there.
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And yeah, Why hadn't I have no
problem with Jesse being
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slightly evil to Rachel?
Mmm, well, you know, given that
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they're so alike and so
competitive and so desirous of
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winning at all costs, that they
would probably implode down the
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line, right?
Like they would get to a point.
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Let's say it's applying for
nyada or going for that last
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spot at nyada where they would
fight to the death for it
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regardless of the oh yeah.
Like that's fine.
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They can bet you know, the
choices career and opportunity
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over each other.
I think they would both at least
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at this point choose career and
opportunity over each other.
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And that's an interesting.
That's interesting.
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It's cool, it's cool, it's
different.
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I wonder I wonder because in my
head I imagine let's say let's
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let's think hypothetically here
just seen Rachel two together
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too.
You know, and until the point
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where they, you know, competing
to go up against Miata and in my
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head, I go.
Yes.
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I can totally see.
Rachel getting upset if Jesse
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did something to get in and she
didn't.
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But at the same time, like I'm
pissed because you cost me, but
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at the same time, begrudging
respect for like, because I
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would have because I did that
too.
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Like I lived on that too.
Yeah, right.
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But then, So Wonder because it's
men writing the show if they
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just ultimately would see no,
Rachel, as a woman would always
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see a relationship over anything
else, I can.
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Yeah, I think they do that
though.
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And you can see it in this
episode where.
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Yeah, I think absolutely.
They write her as and it's the
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problem that I start, you know,
we were talking about way in the
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first episode was like, I like
this Rachel and I did but you
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get to these episodes and you
Have her saying the Glee Club is
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everything to be in Winning is
Everything, But what she's doing
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is putting relationships over
that and she does that
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absolutely with Jesse st.
James is she, they tell her to
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her face.
If you keep this relationship
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going, which is all of, like six
hours old, you will be kicked
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out of this group, because it's
not fair to the rest of us.
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We think he's cheating.
We think he's bad news.
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They're totally right.
Yeah.
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And she's like, YOLO.
I'm going to do it anyway.
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So she says one thing absolutely
gets written as the girl who
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chooses relationships and it's
ridiculous.
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So yeah, I think I think, yes,
deep down actual Rachel, who is
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all about my goals?
My dreams Broadway fan rice
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above.
Every house would be upset and
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would be pissed at getting
fucked over by Jessie st.
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James.
If he as he tries to get ahead
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but would also Deep down,
understand.
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And be like, okay that's this is
this is you do what you need to
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do to get it done and would have
some modicum of respect for
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that?
Yes.
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Even if she hated that, you
fucked her over to do that but I
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so in that sense I think that
would have been it be an
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interesting trajectory to see
how that would go but I don't
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think they would have written it
that way.
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I think they would have written
it.
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Like she would be upset and hurt
like we see here and putting a
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relationship before it went.
Which I Meanwhile, I'm going,
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that's not, that's not what I
saw from Rachel.
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That's not what you told me.
Rachel was and showed me at the
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beginning.
So, what is she then?
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If she's not.
Yeah, so yeah, and interested
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and interesting sidebar into
into what could have been with
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Jesse and Rachel's relationship
through season one but hey, we
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didn't get that.
Hey, that's not what happens in
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Kay spoi.
In case you were not aware of
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the rest of season.
So Shelby Corcoran the other.
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The other big name for this for
this episode Dina.
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I'm cool with Shelby, you know
you got a woman leading the
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charge again for another Glee
club and you know, she's also
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doing what she thinks it takes
to win although I guess I don't
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super like that her go to is
cheating.
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Like why not just Us that you're
insanely.
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Talented and overpopulated Glee
Club is going to be fine but
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getting it done.
You're welcome.
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What's in the water in Ohio to
produce?
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Those are many club members?
Yeah, yeah.
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Cuz there's, there's I mean new
directions is vocal adrenaline.
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And then there's, you know,
there's Alton and it's sort of
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like, with the full don't like,
is there nothing else to do in
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Ohio and like, accept, like,
Breed, musically, talented
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children, it's all part of the
the mutant Factory that they got
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going on.
There really is something in the
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water.
Absolutely.
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This Ohio's third-rate power.
Really, really just having like
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that but it's the third rate
mutants of the X-Men.
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It's like all of these means are
just mute you know musically
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theater in climates like well
what fucking news is that we'll
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stick him in Ohio.
Yeah.
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Getting that says, when they
carry water, baby.
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I don't know.
I don't know, man.
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Even on a very honest, you know,
where Lima Ohio is.
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So, I mean, I Feel Like It's
gotta be somewhere in the middle
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because something that a flap,
it's not, it's on the, it's
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closer to the west side of the
state north of Dayton, which is
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also a city about every summer
in Dayton Ohio as a child.
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So you were Like, I don't know
how far this is.
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You were several inches of
Google Maps space away from my.
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Yeah, I am now Googling.
Like, did you get some of that
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water?
Yeah, I do.
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And that's it, really I Know
Glee is not a documentary, but
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I'm just saying if there
actually were like hidden ring
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of musically talented, mutants
that somebody had a party told
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Ryan Murphy about.
I wouldn't be shocked.
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Yeah.
Would not be surprised like it's
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an hour.
North of Dayton, you were really
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close cool.
So like I don't feel I did drink
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the water.
It's a to it's a two hour bus
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ride.
PS, how far away was I from?
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Is there a Westerville Ohio?
I mean, probably there is
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because it isn't.
It actually like an hour and a
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half away from Lima.
Yeah, it is like, yeah.
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Okay.
Do you pronounce because I
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always pronounce in Lima, I
pronounced it Lima.
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And I'd say that Lima which
makes sense.
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Yeah.
They were like I'm a losers
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that's a level of detail that
really doesn't matter on the
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show.
So yeah, I'm basically an hour
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and a half away from.
I would have been an hour and a
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half away from Lima and
Westerville cool.
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Cool, cool.
I just assumed neither of these
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studies were real and they just
made them up because of course
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they did.
Why would they have come up with
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real?
So, why were they have used real
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cities?
I mean, of the people who I know
370
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,700
who are from Ohio, all they have
to say is like, that's not what
371
00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:49,500
it's like at all.
So, you know, also, I spent time
372
00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:54,300
in Cincinnati which was how far
away from that's even for
373
00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:56,700
yourself.
It is but I didn't know if it
374
00:22:56,700 --> 00:23:03,200
was closer to to Westerville is
not FYI but yeah so I might my
375
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,500
singing ability Not that.
He's basically Kentucky.
376
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:10,400
It really is my dancing ability
though.
377
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,600
Quite good.
Oh, so there's that.
378
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,900
I have another least something's
in the water.
379
00:23:19,500 --> 00:23:22,100
There's really not much you
missed.
380
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,800
To be honest.
Oh I know.
381
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:31,700
I've I've that's why I kept
driving through the entered Ohio
382
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,300
and I was like, nope, keep
going.
383
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,300
Hmm.
Like no pretty sure this one
384
00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:40,100
nothing happens here to pretty
sure this is the setting for
385
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,700
just about every other
Supernatural episode in the
386
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:44,800
compromise.
Moving on.
387
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,700
All right.
So that being said yeah, I like
388
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:50,800
Shelby Corcoran.
I quite enjoyed her.
389
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,500
I thought she should have stayed
around more.
390
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,700
Although I could understand why
Glee didn't have the budget for
391
00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:03,500
a demon first even fair.
Also, she had she had a really
392
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:04,600
fucking good.
Vice.
393
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,200
I know this is kind of jumping
ahead a little bit, but let's
394
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,300
just go with Shelby is right.
We should listen to Shelby and
395
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:18,900
shoes and asshole and leave it
at that and then go back to the
396
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:22,800
beginning with shoe.
Mmm, Yeah Yeah.
397
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,100
She was, yeah, she was
absolutely right about hey,
398
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:30,100
you've just left your wife.
After a what 15-year
399
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,400
relationship or however, the
fuck long, they were dating and
400
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,700
then married and like Really,
it's not time for him to date.
401
00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:39,600
Emma.
Because that she just left at
402
00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:42,000
the altar.
Like he should really he needs
403
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,100
to spend some time on like a
spiritual Retreat finding
404
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,100
himself.
I was it not only were you
405
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:52,000
married in dating and like with
this woman for 15 years it was a
406
00:24:52,008 --> 00:24:53,700
traumatic end.
Yeah.
407
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,000
It wasn't like a slow
realization.
408
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Hey, we've Grown Apart.
We're not the same kids.
409
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,100
We were in high school.
Let's mutually just decide to
410
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:07,000
separate because II realized I
have feelings for this for Emma
411
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,200
and that's not fair.
So, let's let's talk about this,
412
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,100
let's be adults and let's just a
mclee move on?
413
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,700
No, it wasn't fucking that.
Yeah, it was Terry's losing her
414
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:19,900
mind because you're a dick and
how and having emotion
415
00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:25,700
emotionally the word I won't be
cheating on her with somebody
416
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:28,000
that you are working with.
Yeah.
417
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800
Who is also dating somebody
else.
418
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,700
So she's faking a pregnancy to
be able to bring your Change it
419
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,400
back in and you realize, it's
all fake because she's trying to
420
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,200
buy the child from that.
Your student is carrying, that's
421
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,300
pretty fucking dramatic.
So no, you should not be dating
422
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:46,700
somebody right now.
It's a special moments.
423
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,100
This was a show that was
actually on TV for children.
424
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,400
Oh my God.
Children this happens for
425
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,100
younger people.
Let's just say this is not for
426
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,100
children.
Yeah.
427
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:02,000
When should the age of the age
of people between adults and
428
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,900
children?
Hmm.
429
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:04,900
When she was like, I'm And of a
mess.
430
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:07,900
I was like, yes you are.
I was like, this is this.
431
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:09,400
This is.
You have never been more
432
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,500
accurate.
You really.
433
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:15,000
I've never, I've never liked you
before I like you right now.
434
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:16,400
Yeah.
Okay.
435
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,600
You can have the first,
recoveries.
436
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,300
Yeah.
So let's not go that far map
437
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:24,600
there.
So yeah.
438
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,700
Got that.
So Shelby's.
439
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:29,600
Right.
See I guess, speaking of other
440
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,700
inappropriate relationships,
what's up with?
441
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:34,100
Finn and Rachel this time we're
back to office.
442
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,200
And he's like what she thinks
were dating.
443
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,100
I don't think we're dating, so
let's not date.
444
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:42,600
But then, let's date and you
guys are like 16 years old.
445
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,200
Like go to class.
Do your fucking homework, stop
446
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,900
this nonsense.
We're not dating because I got
447
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:53,700
asked out by Brittany and
Santana to go with them and that
448
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:54,800
just makes me go.
What?
449
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:57,200
Really?
Yeah.
450
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,900
There's this is one of those
many times where canonically
451
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:07,000
Finn Hudson is an asshole.
Yeah, definitely canonically.
452
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,300
Finn Hudson also understands the
power of Hawaiian pizza, so you
453
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:15,200
really can't blame your no, no,
no, no, no.
454
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:23,900
This isn't that Finn Hudson is
the worst kind of person and
455
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,500
should never be trusted with
anything, let alone making a
456
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,800
pizza order.
I need backup on this.
457
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,600
Mandy here, to back you up on
this.
458
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:39,400
I mean, you know you have said
nothing but truth I bet I bet
459
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,300
Blaine Anderson likes.
Hawaiian Pizza.
460
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:46,400
Blaine Anderson has good choices
and things most of the time he
461
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,100
probably made a mistake once or
twice, especially when drunk and
462
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:53,300
accidentally ordered pineapple
and Ham on a pizza.
463
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,500
And then realized his mistake
and was like, oh no, this was
464
00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,900
terrible.
I should never do this again.
465
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,200
Was that a missing ask the
Ambrose post?
466
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,200
Goodbye.
I feel like there's going to be
467
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,900
a post that happens.
That's just aimed at Blaine
468
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:13,600
Anderson say no.
I fucking love it.
469
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Just to be no cooper.
Cooper would totally Hooper
470
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,300
would totally order pineapple
and ham Cooper would make those
471
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,800
for yes.
And Cooper like dominoes are
472
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,900
Cooper would look at the menu,
not understand what Hawaiian
473
00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:31,300
pizza was.
But thanks that sound exotic.
474
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:36,100
So orders it Anyway, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
475
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,200
Just I just now want a scene of
like Cooper and Blaine at a
476
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,300
pizza place, trying to decipher
the menu.
477
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:52,300
And it so and Cooper ordering a
Hawaiian pizza and bring those
478
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:56,500
baked Italian.
Yes, the terrible idea.
479
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,700
Why are why are, why did you
order this?
480
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,200
I mean, I respect your opinions,
you're both wrong.
481
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:07,100
And next time we all get to eat
together, I will eat the entire
482
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:11,600
Hawaiian pizza.
As you can, you will be fucking
483
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200
allowed to do that.
Yes, which is why this works
484
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,800
because I get all the Hawaiian
pizza that I want.
485
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,900
All So, I would just like, to
point out, pretty sure Kevin
486
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,500
McHale does not like Hawaiian
pizza.
487
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,100
So, I mean, according to his
Instagram, he's probably not
488
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:28,500
eating pizza right now.
Looks like he's trying to
489
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,600
describe this crime is
demotivating me about a lot of
490
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,600
things.
I know I actually had some pizza
491
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,400
today, then I was like, oh, I
should probably go work out.
492
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:41,300
How can I finish this cake when
I'm watching him?
493
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Work, is it?
I assume that mean I have a job.
494
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,400
No, he, well, I think his he is
permanently at the gym right
495
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,800
now.
Yeah, yeah.
496
00:29:53,300 --> 00:30:00,000
How can I breaking news?
Kevin McHale has a new job you
497
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,100
heard it here first, we bring
you breaking news, we don't know
498
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,400
what it is, we do.
We're just not, we're putting
499
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,000
after tune in next week on.
Say, it's not like it's not like
500
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Kevin McHale has to like be at
the gym to score like a
501
00:30:14,008 --> 00:30:15,500
boyfriend.
That's true.
502
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,300
Where he has been so clear to
me.
503
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:21,000
At the gym, other reasons.
Working on his Fitness.
504
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,900
Sure.
Anyway, Solaris long this long
505
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:32,800
sojourn into a terrible choice
for pizza is just further.
506
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,600
Reminder that Finn Hudson should
not be trusted.
507
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,200
They probably can't be if I mean
yeah I know a lot of matte make
508
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,800
this picks the worst thing.
A lot of the love for Finn
509
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,700
Hudson.
I really, I really think comes
510
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:51,100
from Cory.
Which is, which is fine, but
511
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,200
that does.
It does make you gloss over
512
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:56,600
canonical.
Finn Hudson.
513
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Who is often dickbag?
Yeah.
514
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,500
I was in my appreciation for
Finn does come.
515
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,700
I think thousand percent from
Fannin and from thick where
516
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:17,200
people have they want from fin
or what are like the parts of
517
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:19,600
him that were good.
Yes.
518
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,300
And pulled it and then kind of
added some of how Corey was and
519
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:28,500
how he was just very very
friendly and graceful built that
520
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:34,200
into lovable little doofuses.
He means well is sort of like, a
521
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600
golden retriever puppy.
Yes.
522
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Yeah.
I think they're, I think an
523
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,000
interpretation of Finn Hudson
has really risen above in the
524
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,400
memory of Glee watching, which
is what it's fine.
525
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:54,200
It's written mean, that doesn't,
it's not harmful, really, but I
526
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200
think he's, I think, people do
have to remember that sometimes
527
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,900
fan is just an asshole.
It was he on a whole?
528
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:05,600
I would say yeah, I'm totally
fine with the fan memory of Finn
529
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,700
being what it is.
But as we dive deeper into it
530
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:13,100
just sort of kind of going cool.
Like find that we've all
531
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,000
collectively decided.
This is how we're going to
532
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,200
remember him but like
technically it isn't dickish
533
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,700
things.
A lot of dickish things, heck
534
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:24,200
nicley?
But yeah, I guess we can let it.
535
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:27,500
I mean we can let it slide in
certain times but like the way
536
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:31,900
he treats Rachel in these in But
these seasons is pretty shitty.
537
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,300
Me is also the way he treats.
Quinn is pretty shitty because
538
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:42,600
he was with her like, yeah.
He could have made the choice to
539
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,300
stay with her if he really loved
her.
540
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:46,500
And mr.
That much.
541
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,200
Yes.
If he, if you really loved her,
542
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,700
and I guess that's like a, I
mean, that's imposing value,
543
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,100
whatever.
But, yes, you could, you can
544
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,400
argue that if you, if you really
cared about her in a, well, I
545
00:32:58,408 --> 00:33:00,900
mean, he's 16, He can't it's not
how your brain works.
546
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:04,200
But Larry if he was really in
love with her, he could have
547
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,400
said this is a thing that maybe
we can try and work past and I
548
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,800
do want to be a father to this
kid who's not mine and we'll
549
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,500
figure it out, but it was like
and again, he's 16 and there's
550
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:20,700
no way his 16 year old brain is
gonna make that choice, decision
551
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:26,500
or company, just it just led him
to treat Quinn kind of shittily
552
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,000
while they were together because
he wanted Rachel the whole time
553
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
and then Immediately I want when
when he's with Rachel.
554
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,200
Yes.
Yeah.
555
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,100
Which now that you pointed out
is probably accurate 16 year old
556
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:44,100
boy characterization but still
makes them not a great person.
557
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:50,900
Yeah, at least actress Nation I
just think in that's fine.
558
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:55,700
It's sort of like I think fandom
has decided to see him as better
559
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,600
than 16 year old boy.
Yeah I will.
560
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:06,800
I will say I don't I don't
begrudge thin for not going, you
561
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,199
know, trying to make it work
with Quinn.
562
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:12,400
Like I I said last last week and
I stand by it.
563
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Like the girl the person I felt
worse terrible for was Quinn and
564
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,900
I still do because you know,
trying to Be pregnant as of like
565
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,800
15-6, your own girl, can't be
easy, but at the same time, like
566
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,199
Finn did get like two.
I mean, he was an idiot, he
567
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,800
should have realized what was
going on but because you know,
568
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,000
it's not that's not how
pregnancy happens.
569
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,600
But also, right?
I can see how your girlfriend
570
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,800
lying to you about this asking
you to get a job to help support
571
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,300
a child, that she knows isn't
yours, but didn't tell you and
572
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:49,000
lie to you the entire time does
kind of make you go, I know.
573
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,800
No I don't I don't I don't want
to now.
574
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:59,700
Yeah even if I puke.
Yeah and I absolutely understand
575
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,700
that it's just the fact that as
soon as he's with Rachel all
576
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,800
he's doing is romanticizing how
much he misses Quinn that I'm
577
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,900
like now you you walked away
from that.
578
00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:13,700
Yeah yeah yeah.
And it's like fair and fair
579
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:19,000
enough but you don't get to and
I think this does make me.
580
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,300
Think of, you know, again, sort
of what we were talking about
581
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:29,700
with Rachel, is it a symptom of
being being written by men?
582
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:37,100
That how thin is written and has
in regards to how he treats
583
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:42,000
Rachel on how he treats Quinn is
just like, that's how the men
584
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,200
who were writing this show.
See like this, you know, see
585
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,100
that kind of relationship.
Ship a specters help.
586
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:54,000
They see 16 year old boys acting
or how they see that goes.
587
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,300
I think it's hard because it's,
you know, we don't have the
588
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:03,300
luxury of asking them and we
don't have the luxury of
589
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
interviews that you can really
trust like, oh, you know, as, as
590
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,700
the writers, we were really
trying to get, we would try to
591
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:15,200
remember what it was, like being
16, and it's hard to say, one
592
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,400
way or the other sometimes,
especially in something like
593
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,900
this, because you can make the
argument that they were trying
594
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,200
to portray what they thought a
16 year old.
595
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,400
You would would do in that
situation or you can also make
596
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
the argument that they were just
like, what's going to make,
597
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,000
what's going to make good TV, or
at least what they thought would
598
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,700
be good TV and I don't really
know.
599
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,800
Yeah, I don't either.
And I'm trying to think of the
600
00:36:41,808 --> 00:36:48,000
exact word I want here, but it's
just I feel like it's a example
601
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,200
of the harmful more like the
talks.
602
00:36:54,300 --> 00:37:00,500
Relationships that you can get
when men and men and women.
603
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:04,100
And that's sort of I don't know
if this is just them trying to
604
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:09,400
remember and teenagers have
crazy-ass, you know,
605
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600
relationships because they're
teenagers and emotions and
606
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,700
hormones and everything, or if
it's just like, you know, a
607
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:22,200
symptom of how the misogyny that
is somehow ingrained in say, old
608
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,200
white men.
I think it's probably a little
609
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:28,900
Little bit of both.
I would like, which sucks, you
610
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:30,000
know?
Yeah.
611
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,100
Higher higher Mojave.
Male staff writers?
612
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,700
Yes, maybe sleeping.
Someone even have female staff
613
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,800
writers.
I don't know.
614
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,800
Like, the the credited made
writers are all Brad in.
615
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:50,100
Yeah.
And Murphy first season 1, but I
616
00:37:50,107 --> 00:37:54,800
don't know.
There might be credited staff
617
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,600
writers and I I just haven't
bothered looking Googling at the
618
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,500
second.
This is this is a question.
619
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:08,800
I really, I'm really curious on
what about just Glee writers?
620
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:14,000
I mean, I know we get okay, we
just pulled up in, there are
621
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,800
like there.
Are there are credited writers,
622
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:27,000
who like Marti noxon, and Stacy,
trout wrote episodes.
623
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,600
Some of them wrote, there are
women credited for a number of
624
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:37,400
other episodes, but I'd have to
go through season-by-season to
625
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,900
try and like track down which A
Killer episodes.
626
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:44,200
They're credited for writing.
I feel like there was one
627
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:50,400
earlier that was written by a
woman and because I Led Led Keen
628
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:57,900
is that's a she was a director.
I think you're right.
629
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,600
So at least they had they did
have a female director.
630
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:11,700
They had she did one.
I mean honestly Brad and then
631
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,800
Murphy had pretty solid control
through season one and two and
632
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,600
then of course they find
something else they like to play
633
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,500
with.
So season 3 is when more people
634
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:26,100
come in and start taking over
like just a quick look.
635
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:30,100
Ali Adler is credited for pot of
gold which For Better or Worse.
636
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,300
Like thanks.
Yeah.
637
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600
Martinez.
I will set the extraordinary.
638
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Merry Christmas.
Hmm, remember how are
639
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,200
acceptable?
It's fucking practice some
640
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,800
episodes.
How weird is that?
641
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,800
Sure?
I will say LED did three did
642
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,600
three episodes in the in the
first 13 episodes.
643
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:57,800
Which not Not I would say not
normal for most show.
644
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,900
So kudos to you guys for having
a woman direct three episodes.
645
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,500
Yeah.
Unfortunately Network TV has a
646
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:10,800
severe lack of female writers,
and directors and below the Line
647
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,200
crew, like it's all bad, it's
all bad as what I'm saying.
648
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:20,400
But, you know later, she said, I
will give them props for having
649
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,900
having had haven't had a woman
do Fourth.
650
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,600
Now here's something.
We should I think and maybe, you
651
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,900
know, people listening can can
think about to the first two
652
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:36,600
seasons are really.
The rains are held by the
653
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,900
creators, right?
So Ian, Ryan and Brad kind of
654
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,300
have more solid control over
seasons one and two because
655
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:48,500
they're doing the majority of
writing and directing and in
656
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:53,000
season three is when other
people come in and start really
657
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,800
taking over.
At the three of them really step
658
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,700
back because they've got 16,000
other projects.
659
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:06,400
I think we should keep an eye
out for continuity problems and
660
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,900
like characterization problems
as as more and more people try
661
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:15,600
to put their mark on the show
because that's what happens.
662
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,500
In TV shows like this where it
goes on for a long time and you
663
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,400
bring in a number of directors
and writers that each person
664
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,700
tries To put their own little
spin, their own little touch on
665
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,100
it and sometimes it really
shows.
666
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,700
And I think some of the
characterization problems that
667
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:38,800
we really start to see later can
probably be contributed to the
668
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,700
none of the sheer number of
people who have their hands on
669
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:44,300
it.
I'm sure it'll just be
670
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:46,000
interesting to see if that holds
up.
671
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:51,200
Yeah I mean II do think we've
seen enough inconsistent
672
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,700
characterization so far for me
to say?
673
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:57,400
Yeah yeah.
The inconsistency, is it just do
674
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,700
to them bringing in other, you
know, other writers or yeah, of
675
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:06,100
course, but I do, I will say it
would be interesting as we keep
676
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,800
going to go.
Oh yes, here is when I start
677
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,200
seeing a major difference on
Rachel or this.
678
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,700
This starts to make absolutely
no sense because they would in
679
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:19,800
this direction, or this thing
that pops in my head is actually
680
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,500
due to season 4, which was
somebody else.
681
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:25,900
So, that'll be really
interesting as we keep going to
682
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:30,100
keep that in mind.
Jumping jumping from from that
683
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,300
and off of the thing.
Anyway, that's six years from
684
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:39,000
now, seriously.
One of the things that speak
685
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,600
speaking of, speaking of women,
on Glee, Let's Sue.
686
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Sue Sue.
Yeah, you know, I love Sue
687
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,300
Sylvester.
I think that's, I appreciate
688
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:52,400
her.
I know you guys also love her.
689
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,200
I'm very frustrated with her.
This episode.
690
00:42:55,500 --> 00:43:00,700
Yeah.
It's just, you know, in my in my
691
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:06,800
looking back and remembering the
parts I like, am I am I too, am
692
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,900
I remembering Fannin too much.
I don't know, but my remembrance
693
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,300
of Sue and what I feel like
we've seen so far is yes, she's
694
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,800
chaotic neutral, does some
things are good at some things
695
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:28,000
and a lot of it's just chaos.
Gasps, she wants to fuck over
696
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,600
the Glee Club.
No matter what she's not above
697
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:38,000
sending her Cheerios in to fuck
things up, but interfering in
698
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,300
teen relationships.
Yeah, it's a little more than it
699
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,800
does SU and it made me just go
with the fuck.
700
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Like, that's that, that's weird.
And strange and creepy, and then
701
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,000
and then use the date rape drug
and yeah.
702
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:59,800
Great joke.
I I attribute that to hey white
703
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,100
male, writers are trying to make
house humor but guess what?
704
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,200
You don't get to make Gallows
humor, when you're not standing
705
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,400
on that platform and white men,
old men aren't the ones that are
706
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,400
given date rape drugs.
So I don't care that you had a
707
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,600
woman, do it to a man you don't
get to write that joke.
708
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,700
Yeah.
See I think it very much points
709
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,700
to a room full of male writers,
the think that that would be
710
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:23,900
funny.
Like I think, I don't know how
711
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,900
many Any women and obviously
there are women with
712
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,500
internalized misogyny who would
write that joke trying to be
713
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:33,400
subversive and it's just not
funny, but I think it points to
714
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600
a roomful of men like with it,
you guys, wouldn't it be funny
715
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,900
if Sue dropped a roofie in in
the principal's drink like, no,
716
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,300
no, it's not actually, but thank
you for trying.
717
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,700
Turn it on, turn it on its head
and we had a woman, do it to me
718
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:52,400
and yeah, yeah, exactly art.
We hilarious and creative like,
719
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
oh, you're just assholes It's
not.
720
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:59,900
No, I mean it's again I come
back to black humor.
721
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:01,500
Gallows humor.
That's a thing.
722
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:05,300
That's a legit thing, but when
you're not the one that's
723
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:08,000
standing on those Gallows, you
don't get to make that joke
724
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:11,500
because then you just punching
down and it doesn't matter if
725
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:15,100
you're the one that if you're
giving it to a female character,
726
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:17,800
there are some things I find to
be.
727
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Like, that's not you didn't
hand.
728
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,000
Maybe there's a way to have a
day.
729
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,400
Date rape.
I don't think we need different
730
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,300
drugs.
Like yeah I'm like I say I'm
731
00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:32,100
inclined to agree with you but
I'm willing to say okay maybe
732
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:36,900
there's a way that you can use a
roofie as as a joke or use it in
733
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:42,600
a way that it is a joke but if
so this isn't it.
734
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,800
Hmm.
It's real hard for me to try and
735
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,800
think of any situation in which
I would think.
736
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
Oh that.
That was a great roof Egypt.
737
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,000
Yeah, I think the only way it
could work is if it's How was
738
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,900
ended up the joke was on the
person who did, who did the
739
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:02,300
roofie?
I don't, I don't, I don't know.
740
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:03,700
I haven't really thought this
through.
741
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Like I said, I'm inclined it and
if it, if it ends up with anyone
742
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,200
having sex because they were,
drugged, I feel like that to me
743
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,300
really not funny.
No agree.
744
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,100
Or even just making, some
believe that was that happened.
745
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,700
No, I totally agree with you on
that.
746
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,500
I was, I willing to have it like
Hey, no.
747
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:28,800
There is an example where
date-rape drug is used in a, in
748
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,100
a scene in a way, that's is a
joke.
749
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Maybe that exists.
Maybe does.
750
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,200
I don't particularly think so,
but I'm willing to say maybe it
751
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,900
does either way.
I'm just, I am very disappointed
752
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:47,300
in Sue's characterization and
her entire her, entire
753
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:52,700
everything, this code.
This is not the Sue Sylvester.
754
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:56,200
I signed up for God damn it.
Yeah, she's definitely a
755
00:46:56,207 --> 00:47:00,500
character that they never quite
they never quite solidify in
756
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,900
their own minds.
What she's meant for and who she
757
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,100
is.
Like she definitely just starts
758
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,400
out as a foil who supposed to be
kind of funny and irreverent and
759
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:13,200
says mean things and she's the
foil but that that's not a
760
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,100
character that lasts for six
seasons.
761
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:19,100
Like you can't just keep Doing
that.
762
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:22,300
It becomes like Scooby-Doo, you
know, like, oh, it's Sue again.
763
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:28,700
But they do like they just never
there.
764
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:34,900
Never able to figure out her her
as a person and they tried.
765
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:39,600
They tried like her sister and
it never coalesces into a human
766
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,800
being in.
There's a big difference for me
767
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:50,700
from sue, his abusive Verbally,
so, and terrible person.
768
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:56,700
And there is using a date rape
drug to tell somebody that that
769
00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,600
literally not even just like
that, something happened.
770
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
But also also figgins, I'm
pretty sure was married.
771
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,800
So, yes, like there's a lot
there and I'm like, that's bad.
772
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,300
That's a whole different kind
of, maybe I'm misremembering,
773
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:16,000
maybe figgins isn't married?
But like, if he is, I feel like
774
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,900
that's an even extra layer of
like on his soul and I don't
775
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:24,400
like figgins but I also like
that's not It's a whole other
776
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,100
level guys.
So yeah, definitely down to
777
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,200
mail, men and men in a writing
room that think this is funny.
778
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:38,300
It's not and it's, and it's FYI
to anybody that's writing, maybe
779
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:43,200
don't use that as like a
punchline and and the store dear
780
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,000
future writers or scrapes not
funny.
781
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:50,500
That's why I just, you know
we're here for to help you.
782
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,100
We're here to give you tips tips
that you may not have come up.
783
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,400
Not you can go to school for
this kind of information but
784
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,900
we're going to give it to you
for free rapes.
785
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:01,400
Not funny.
You're welcome.
786
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Glad we could help with that.
Saving you some money on grad
787
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,600
school.
Yeah.
788
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,100
And if anyone needs a PowerPoint
presentation, that is one slide
789
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,200
that says that we can provide
them.
790
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:18,700
Yes, we can we can give you is
this joke about rape?
791
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:20,500
Yes.
No, it's not funny.
792
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:25,200
No, it's not.
It might be funny.
793
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,200
We can put it up on the website.
So 11 frame.
794
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:36,800
That will be available for
everybody later available on
795
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,700
t-shirts and buttons.
Please feel free to reference
796
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,600
for you.
So a couple other random things
797
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,600
that I have written down that
are in a slightly happier.
798
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:52,100
Okay, what vein has been a
depressing chat so far, actually
799
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:55,100
hasn't.
Let me, let me lighten it up
800
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,600
with one dolphins.
Are gay sharks?
801
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:01,700
Yes, yeah, yeah.
That happened.
802
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,900
This episode.
There are a couple dare, we say
803
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:07,100
it iconically lines, that's one
of them.
804
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,800
The other is, no, she's dead.
This is her son.
805
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,100
I'd actually don't know if Chris
improv that line.
806
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,600
I could be.
I could be totally making this
807
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:19,900
up.
Hold on.
808
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:22,600
Yeah, I thought he improved it
because that's something that
809
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,300
actually happens to him.
But actually happened to him.
810
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,400
Yeah, we got bread sticks.
We got our this is our first
811
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,300
bread sticks or they've been a
breadsticks before and if into
812
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:34,600
bread sticks before.
Okay?
813
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,700
But we did get Lauren zizes who
I don't even know.
814
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:42,100
I don't know if I like her or if
I can't stand her and I just
815
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:43,500
don't even remember at this
point.
816
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,300
I feel like I don't end up
liking her, but she's another
817
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:50,300
one that started out as a
character that that might have
818
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,400
been.
Yeah, funny.
819
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,100
And then they just like drove it
into the ground with the bad
820
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,700
qualities.
Yeah, absolutely I would like to
821
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:00,200
add.
Okay.
822
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,100
So yes, they've been to
breadsticks before but this was
823
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,400
the first episode that they the
first appearance of the
824
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,900
breadsticks theme music cue.
There's a breadstick.
825
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:15,100
See music.
You see other.
826
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:20,000
All right, I'm glad they put
that much effort into it but not
827
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:23,400
like the plot.
There are so many things that
828
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,600
they are.
There's so much.
829
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,100
They put so much effort into it.
I was talking with.
830
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,100
Mandy about something on season
3 so guess what you guys have to
831
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:33,400
hang around for a while.
To get to hear all of that
832
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:40,100
conversation.
But like hair makeup wardrobe.
833
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:45,900
Like there are so many things
that had so much care and effort
834
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:49,300
put into it, and then you're
like, but what about like, the
835
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:53,700
plot, I know, I'm glad you spent
so much time, coordinating
836
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,300
outfits, but you couldn't
actually write a story like, I
837
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:01,700
would not trust season.
For if somebody said no, this is
838
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:06,400
the the writers totally meant
for this based on this other
839
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,200
thing that happened, you can see
they meant for the this
840
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,200
parallel.
I would say bullshit because the
841
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,500
right, I don't trust the
writers.
842
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:18,700
If you came to me and said, no,
The Outfits, coordinating means
843
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:21,700
this, and it's, and it's, and
it's a take off of what, you
844
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:24,600
know, it take.
It's a flip of what the Trope
845
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,300
that happened in a season prior
because They wore the same kind
846
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:30,200
of thing, I'd be like.
Yes.
847
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,800
Yeah.
Believe you because wardrobe did
848
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,600
that shit.
Yeah.
849
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,200
Wardrobe was definitely
operating on him.
850
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,000
Different.
There are, they were like, I'm
851
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,200
not really brothers Bo love
nothing.
852
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,700
But they, they were.
There were legitimate show,
853
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,200
right?
Right, yeah.
854
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,000
They were like an cable levels
of operating maybe not pay
855
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:58,100
cable, but cable, and, and yeah.
So I do, I do I do trust them.
856
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,100
So yeah, we had.
We had a breadsticks music cue.
857
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:05,100
That's where this started.
All right.
858
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,000
Brett 6, music, you breadsticks
waitress.
859
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:10,400
Hmm.
He's around all the time.
860
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:15,700
So, yeah, I was a lot, but I
think happened in this episode
861
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:22,100
that I feel was iconic to just
our understanding, our being
862
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:27,500
fandom, how we gaped a lot of
the characters in our brain, in
863
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:31,400
our, in our, how we wrote them
How we like understood them
864
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,500
because so it's interesting that
it went back for me going is
865
00:53:36,500 --> 00:53:40,300
back as far as season one.
I thought a lot of what I took
866
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,100
from the characters were all
season two so that was kind of
867
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:47,800
an interesting thing to go.
Oh, I didn't realize some of
868
00:53:47,808 --> 00:53:51,800
this was season one.
Yeah, I have a, I have just a
869
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:57,300
small Petty points.
If I may no, we don't do petty
870
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:02,300
here.
Um, Why is Emma's office so big?
871
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:06,800
And why is it glassed-in with
like glass windows when she is
872
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,000
the fucking guidance, counselor?
Because we're good point.
873
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:17,300
If I'm speaking to a guidance
counselor, the last thing I want
874
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:22,700
is the entire school to see me.
Possibly crying, but at least
875
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,300
having a serious emotional
conversation with somebody in
876
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:27,200
the middle of the day.
Okay.
877
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,000
And actually I see your point
all counter.
878
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:35,000
Would you tell Emma Pillsbury
something deeply emotional and
879
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,300
upsetting?
No, but I would at least take a
880
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,600
pamphlet from her and I don't
want the whole school to know
881
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,100
what pamphlets I'm taking.
Let me put them in my backpack.
882
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:47,900
First before I leave her pipes.
They're not just the ocean, but
883
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:50,900
if we wanted to have a serious
conversation with your partner
884
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:59,600
about like the level of tan,
your hands are you might work, I
885
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,100
was hoping that was I want to
hide my tan hands and I don't
886
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:07,800
need for the ceiling glass.
Windows, Blaine, why are you
887
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,200
putting so much moisture, right
on your moisturizer on your
888
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,400
hands?
That is a question for us to
889
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,000
revisit in a few seasons.
I think we know why I'm also not
890
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000
a question.
I would want him answering in
891
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,100
front of a glass.
Yeah, and I glass or Emma,
892
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:26,200
probably or Emma.
Also is Emma Pillsbury not going
893
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,300
to stand for those glass windows
ever being remotely.
894
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,700
Streaky.
How, like, how much I hurt.
895
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,500
Yes, or cleaning.
She has to spend six of her
896
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,300
eight hours, cleaning the
windows.
897
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,600
The other two hours are devoted
to printing pamphlets.
898
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,100
Yes.
Anyway, for the first time, I
899
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:52,500
was like, wait a minute.
Actually, speaking of Emma last
900
00:55:52,500 --> 00:56:01,900
episode, we ended Emma in my
opinion, writing lie, saying
901
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,400
fuck this shit.
I'm out verbatim.
902
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:10,400
I'm I am, I'm giving you word
for word this episode Emma.
903
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:16,400
We have no, like, there's no
commentary to.
904
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:21,200
Hey, I'm so glad you're back or
decided not to leave, or we
905
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,100
blackmailed you into staying
nothing?
906
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,300
Yeah, nothing.
We don't fund it logic.
907
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,200
It's straight-up.
Fuck it.
908
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,800
Logic.
And my question, my question is,
909
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,600
how did how did Emma come back?
Well, there probably aren't that
910
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,900
many guidance counselors in
Lima, Ohio.
911
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:42,600
So to realize to moving or
she'll She went to a different
912
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,000
school.
It was really dirty, wasn't able
913
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,900
to clear to the point to the
developing levels of necessity
914
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:55,700
and so left.
Yes, cool, it's gonna go away.
915
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:03,300
I also have on here and I have I
have a note here as a question
916
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:08,600
to the audience.
So there was a trivia note on on
917
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,600
this episode that I found really
interesting.
918
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,600
The the pinky holding that we
see from Santana and Brittany, I
919
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,900
guess we see it.
You know, we definitely see it
920
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:25,600
in this episode.
The note says that's something
921
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,500
that came from Nia and Heather
and Ryan liked it and wrote it
922
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:32,400
in because again, Glee's not a
documentary.
923
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:38,500
My question is, like, the third
was there, like a interview that
924
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:43,400
that confirmed, that is there
something from Nia or Heather or
925
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,300
Ryan?
Like saying this is what
926
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:47,900
happened.
I have no memory of this.
927
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:49,900
I have no memory of it.
Being Nyan Heather.
928
00:57:49,900 --> 00:57:52,900
That did this.
So I'm just trying to figure out
929
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:56,400
where it came from.
So people that are, that are may
930
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,900
know, or are aware of how or
why, that is a thing, I would
931
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:04,000
like to know, I get those those
like, yeah.
932
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,100
Ah, shippers back around.
If you're still hanging around
933
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,600
hanging around and listening to
us.
934
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:15,500
Hi, how are you, what is this?
I would like to know.
935
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,200
So, that's all, that's all I've
got here on my, on my list of
936
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,000
things that happened.
This episode anything, anything
937
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,100
else standing out for you guys?
Well, not the songs.
938
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:31,100
Do we want to talk about Terry
and Emma or we should not not
939
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:34,000
even so much Terry and Emma as
the bad choice.
940
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,000
Is the Will Schuester continues
to make that hurt people in his
941
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,700
life.
Yeah, that's definitely talk
942
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:47,000
about that, you know, like
again, he just dumped his wife
943
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,600
and he's got Emma all up in the
home, he shared with his wife,
944
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:58,200
watching their movies, eating on
their table, like weeks a month
945
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:03,900
after the breakup, and he
doesn't He's all surprised when
946
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:05,100
Terry shows that.
Yeah.
947
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,300
And then he makes out shell
because that fucking makes sense
948
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:14,000
to also maybe it's my really
cynical read of shoot, Schuster
949
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:21,200
read, accurate reader Schuester.
I saw shoes making out what
950
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,500
she'll be a result of Emma.
Basically saying she wanted to
951
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:30,700
go slow because of her / issues.
That's what I saw it as a yeah.
952
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,200
Yeah definitely.
Like that.
953
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:38,300
Oh, I don't, We're not gonna
make out or do other things I'm
954
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:42,300
going to, and maybe it wasn't a
conscious choice on Schuster's
955
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,000
part to go off.
Therefore, I'm going to go find
956
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,200
somebody else to actually make
out with, but I saw it as a, a
957
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,900
cause, and effect.
That that is literally how I saw
958
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:54,600
it as which again.
Mr. Is the worst kind of person?
959
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:56,900
Yeah.
Yes.
960
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:02,500
Because like that, Emma's a
strange character because Does
961
01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:08,000
she has her OCD, which is a not
problematic but like it's a
962
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,900
rough thing to have and a TV
show because everyone's
963
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,800
presentation of the disorder is
different.
964
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,800
And how do you distill it down
to one characters behaviors?
965
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,200
And for Emma, it kind of comes
and goes, depending on what like
966
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,700
the visual gag of the scene.
Is right?
967
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:27,200
Like sometimes she's in full
gloves and an apron washing
968
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,000
grapes, and other times.
She's in someone else's house
969
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,600
setting their table and cooking.
Things.
970
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:33,300
Right?
Like it.
971
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,800
That doesn't bother her enough
to stop it, but she is.
972
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,500
Yeah.
So just kind of depends on what
973
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:41,900
the scene needs.
But, you know, her her
974
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:44,900
reluctance to engage in any sort
of physical relationship with
975
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:48,100
someone is deeply, rooted in a
lot of psychological and
976
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:51,500
emotional issues for her.
And it doesn't really come up
977
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:57,400
again and its treated as a, as a
like, a reason for shoe to have
978
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,800
another emotional moment, right?
She tells him This deeply
979
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,300
personal and probably very
embarrassing thing that a lot of
980
01:01:06,308 --> 01:01:10,400
people would look down on and
his reaction is to make out with
981
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,300
somebody else.
Yeah.
982
01:01:13,300 --> 01:01:22,000
Like I think the inevitable
response of we should deal with
983
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,100
our own shit is the right
response?
984
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Yes.
But it came out the wrong
985
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,000
fucking way.
Yeah.
986
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,000
Like not you shouldn't even
jump.
987
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,100
Dress relationship, you should
have said, cool.
988
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,100
I still really like you we but
we need to deal with our issues
989
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:41,000
first and then let's try this.
But like yeah that is that is
990
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,500
just it's just further proof to
me that like either.
991
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:49,400
I mean, one juicers a terrible
person but also just really
992
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,400
feels and especially this
episode how much a lot of what
993
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,900
is written is written by men?
Yeah, because I'm like, you had
994
01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,000
a woman being very vulnerable
about something.
995
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,500
That would be very You know that
a lot of people have is, you
996
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:10,400
know, issues with or just see
negatively and your reaction is
997
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,100
to write the male character, go
make out with somebody else.
998
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:20,500
Okay, and you want me to think
of him sympathetically.
999
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:26,300
Yeah, cool, cool.
All right, all right fine.
1000
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,300
I'm say if you think that if you
think that's that's okay then
1001
01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:34,400
like imagine it was flipped
around and you know Schuster had
1002
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,200
an issue and told Emma and Emma
went and made out with some
1003
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,500
other guy.
Yeah.
1004
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:42,400
If you like that, if you feel
like that make her a bitch then
1005
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:48,300
yeah you have a problem with it.
Yeah, so we'll double standards
1006
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,800
ghosts don't exist.
No one, no one ever treats women
1007
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:59,100
and men differently.
No, no, he's just a silly woman.
1008
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,300
You don't understand.
Emily died.
1009
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:06,800
I know, I know I just I just got
to get back to my needlepoint
1010
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,700
and washing clothes by hand.
Yeah, if you could fix fix those
1011
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,500
patches on the socks and maybe
darn a few X.
1012
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:16,700
Things.
You know what you?
1013
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:20,500
I don't even know what to do to
be perfectly honest.
1014
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,900
If I could darn a pair of socks,
my life would probably be a lot
1015
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:28,100
better, but I never learned how
like I would wear.
1016
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:33,400
This is where our cohort.
Our generation is that we were
1017
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,300
like, look at.
We could fucking make our own
1018
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:39,600
socks, we fucking would.
Okay, I wish I could admit my
1019
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,500
hands don't do the thing.
Like I can't, I don't tithe
1020
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,600
Those are Boomer parents decided
not to learn and teach us.
1021
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,400
Thank you Boomers.
I will blame you for everything
1022
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,900
bringing it back around.
Yeah.
1023
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:58,500
Fuck you.
Boo - yeah, you know, no,
1024
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:01,900
disrespect a needle pointers and
is, can't do that shit.
1025
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:04,100
I don't know how I wish I could
knit, I can't.
1026
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:06,300
And I'm not going to learn
because I don't have that kind
1027
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:10,200
of patience needle points
fucking intricate as shit.
1028
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:16,200
Like, I can't see that.
Well, I heard I have bad Vision.
1029
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,500
I don't need myopia.
Oh yeah, I already can't see far
1030
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,500
away.
I don't need to know, I can't
1031
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,900
can't afford new glasses.
I can't pull this shit.
1032
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,800
All right, bringing this back to
Glee, sorry, sorry.
1033
01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:31,600
This is a side into
intergenerational issues that I
1034
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,800
feel most of you understand.
But if never done exciting
1035
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:40,800
Brands, never, we do here.
All right, so, okay cool.
1036
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,800
We added, we added an extra
function, To which I appreciate.
1037
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,300
I'm always here for this
anything.
1038
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,400
Anything else that we may have?
We may have missed going on
1039
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,500
because episode.
Did anyone like any of the
1040
01:04:53,508 --> 01:04:55,700
songs?
I like the originals.
1041
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,400
Really?
Yeah yeah.
1042
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,500
Is one of my favorite songs.
Done by The Beatles.
1043
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:05,800
Yeah I'm sorry.
Who the Beatles?
1044
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,700
I don't I've never there's
there's one person that's
1045
01:05:09,700 --> 01:05:11,500
allowed to do.
Nah.
1046
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,900
Non this ought to do Beatles
songs other than the Beatles and
1047
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:17,000
his name is Chris Colfer and he
did not get a starring role in
1048
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:21,000
the song.
I will accept accept his Beatles
1049
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:29,500
songs because he did good ones.
I thought, Rachel trying to sing
1050
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:33,600
an on Broadway song was kind of
Various yes she did.
1051
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,700
Real it off, in my opinion, not
at all.
1052
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:39,700
Lea Michele is not a pop singer.
Okay.
1053
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:45,300
Can I leave I don't want to get
into like a total discussion
1054
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:48,400
with and I know people really
like Lea Michele and I hope
1055
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,400
everyone is having a great time
in d.c. right now at the show
1056
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:59,900
and fantastic that were there.
But like I there's a line in the
1057
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:04,400
show from this episode.
Where I wrote it down because
1058
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,200
it's like, yes, this is exactly
my problem with Lea Michele and
1059
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:10,400
fuck me.
Where is it?
1060
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:15,300
Oh, it's I think it's Jessie st.
James is or Shelby or one of
1061
01:06:15,308 --> 01:06:20,300
them saying that Rachel lacked
barbra's, emotional depth in.
1062
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:23,600
Don't Rain on My Parade and I
was like, yes, that is my
1063
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,000
problem with Lea Michele singing
is that it lacks emotional
1064
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,200
depth?
She has a lot of technical
1065
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,300
skill, but there's always I'm
missing for me and sometimes it
1066
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:39,700
makes it hard to to not focus on
the song but to like, really
1067
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,800
feel what her character is
supposed to be feeling because I
1068
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,600
just don't hear it and then like
Mercedes you can kind of feel
1069
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,400
it.
Honestly Santana when she sings
1070
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:56,700
you like feel it even if it's
not the same technical ability.
1071
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,800
There's like a it's that
emotional depth and it's like a
1072
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:03,900
it's a skill.
That's Very different but I just
1073
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,600
like again, if you love Lea
Michele, God bless you have a
1074
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,400
great time but it's the thing I
can never quite get past.
1075
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,700
Do you think it's?
Because Lea Michele can't read.
1076
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:21,400
So she can't like the motion.
I mean that's probably it's
1077
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:31,500
probably it is happening.
Going off telling her she just
1078
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:35,000
has To listen to the song and
doesn't actually really get into
1079
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,500
it.
It's probably a yeah You Got Me
1080
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,900
ii will say yeah, I think it's
not something I realized with a
1081
01:07:42,908 --> 01:07:46,900
lot because I without a doubt,
she has a Flawless voice, her
1082
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:52,000
voice is fucking amazing, and I
am not a technical.
1083
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,000
I'm not a singer, I'm just I'm
not a technical singer, any kind
1084
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,000
of singer.
Technically, I'm a, I'm a, I'm
1085
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,200
a, let me turn the music up.
Sing really loud in my car and
1086
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,600
so I can't hear myself over out
of the song and it sounds like
1087
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,200
I'm singing really.
Well, that's the kind of thing
1088
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:09,600
where I am.
Yes.
1089
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,100
But so that being sad, she's
phenomenal.
1090
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,000
She does so much better with
Broadway than she does with pop
1091
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,100
songs and I think that's just
how her voice is on how she was
1092
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:22,100
trained.
Yeah.
1093
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:26,600
But I have had issues with some
of her songs just like I'm just
1094
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,800
like, okay.
That's Technically done.
1095
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,399
Well, like that's very she can
sing that song.
1096
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,100
It sounds great.
But like I just I just don't it
1097
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:38,899
doesn't do anything for me.
It wasn't really made that cake
1098
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:45,000
because yeah, Nia.
I'd say I've definitely met
1099
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:51,000
Amber a lot.
There's a, I was a Kris his
1100
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,200
daring.
I even even goodness gracious.
1101
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,200
What's Marley's girl named yes
for girl.
1102
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:01,300
Never heard of you.
It's Unique.
1103
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:06,800
Yeah, I mean Tina.
Yeah, again using using
1104
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,100
characters and actors names
indiscriminately.
1105
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:11,300
That's that's my that's my
motto.
1106
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:17,399
But yeah, there, there
definitely is something to
1107
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:21,100
adding that emotion with it.
You don't just hear it.
1108
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,200
And, and that's interesting that
they put that into Rachel
1109
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:30,100
because yeah, even when even
when she's singing about Finn,
1110
01:09:30,700 --> 01:09:36,100
it's like, it's almost like a
pantomime of or like, an alien
1111
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:42,600
who is like, trying to protect
the humans and is like, I'm
1112
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,300
showing the emotions that I know
a human is supposed to show
1113
01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:47,000
right now.
And of course not saying me and
1114
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,600
Michelle is nailing.
She's obviously human.
1115
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,000
You just can't read it.
Shut Abby.
1116
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,700
That wouldn't let her not being
able to read.
1117
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:59,500
I mean maybe she reads Credibly
well in her own language.
1118
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:02,200
Yeah, if you're gonna get the
fuck out.
1119
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,100
So clearly the that was the
whole thing.
1120
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:13,700
Lea Michele alien.
Yeah, Donna, we have answered so
1121
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,900
many questions.
Most this episode we have
1122
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:20,000
questions, that should have
remained unanswered questions
1123
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,700
that were never asked questions.
We answer, nobody needed to
1124
01:10:23,700 --> 01:10:27,300
know, Nobody asked me these
questions.
1125
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,600
That is our job to answer the
questions.
1126
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,200
Nobody asked.
Nobody sue us.
1127
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,600
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly
Lea Michele is an alien.
1128
01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:45,800
So when I add that in there,
okay, so we forgot to do this
1129
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:51,300
last episode and is greatly on
behalf of everybody.
1130
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,800
I have, let not only you down,
but us dead.
1131
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,400
Um and I've let Kevin McHale
down with so for that, I
1132
01:10:58,407 --> 01:11:02,200
apologize.
Yeah we did we really really
1133
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:09,200
drop the Kevin, the chair of the
cabinet office That said, how
1134
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,700
many, how many cabins was this?
Was this episode out of 125 like
1135
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:18,300
a half of one, if that if that
like maybe just a quarter
1136
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:22,600
because he was in the song sort
of, yeah, I mean I would go with
1137
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,400
a quarter, a quarter, Kevin it
was pretty bad, it was pretty
1138
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:31,200
bad.
Was that pretty despite this
1139
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,600
being having, despite this
episode having everybody in the
1140
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,300
cast in it which side note won't
happen again until purple piano
1141
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,900
project which what the fuck
really seriously?
1142
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:47,200
But that being said, ya know,
very, very minimal.
1143
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,800
Kevin, I will back you guys up
quarter, Kevin or to Kevin's
1144
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:58,300
was.
So we talked about Jesse and
1145
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:00,500
Shelby.
And how just seen Rachel?
1146
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,700
Maybe you should have been a
thing and but we'll never know.
1147
01:12:03,700 --> 01:12:06,400
That didn't happen?
Do you perhaps want to say that
1148
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,200
they could have had it all if
they were rolling in the deep?
1149
01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:12,400
I wasn't going to go there, but
I guess we did.
1150
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:15,000
They could have, they could have
had it all.
1151
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,700
I go for the nobody fruit.
I mean, somebody's got to pick
1152
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:22,100
it.
That's all I've got the
1153
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,900
blatantly unfortunate.
Misogyny that existed in this.
1154
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,400
Like into least to us maybe not
to the writers because you know
1155
01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:39,900
men Pete jerky men, the bit of
fandom that existed that we get
1156
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:43,100
at the beginning of this with
some some actual great lines,
1157
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:48,800
great improv, blind some great
improv'd, characterization Su
1158
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,500
not being great.
And Finn being the absolute
1159
01:12:53,500 --> 01:12:56,500
worst because fucker likes
Hawaiian pizza.
1160
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,400
But apparently so does Cooper
blank.
1161
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,300
Wasn't if it is the Cooper it's
good enough for me.
1162
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:12,000
Well, allow it anything else?
No, we can talk about Lauren's.
1163
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000
I see it later.
I we don't talk about her now.
1164
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,600
Yeah, it's like you just pop up.
There'll be plenty of chances to
1165
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,400
talk about her.
Yeah, we'll get it, we'll get
1166
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,000
it.
I can't wait to get to talking
1167
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,700
about her versus fan in her.
Yeah.
1168
01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,900
That could be like an entire
episode dr.
1169
01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:29,900
Fannin.
It's coming.
1170
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:34,700
Okay.
That that is an episode that all
1171
01:13:34,708 --> 01:13:40,600
right with with that I guess
I've got left to say is well
1172
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