Let Me Glee You

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Yeah.
So today we are talking about,

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well, obviously Glee for one
thing because that was up for

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question.
Just, there was any confusion as

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to why you're here.
But secondly, we were talking

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about season 4, episode 12
naked.

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Mmm.
Very quick rundown is the Glee

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Club puts together.
A calendar photo shoot for a

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fundraiser.
Meanwhile, a part in a student

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film poses, a moral dilemma for
Rachel.

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I pretended to say that I had
forgotten about the men of

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McKinley calendar but I had
forgotten how much I disliked

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the conversation around it.
Um, the McKinley calendar is

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burned into my brain could not
unremember.

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No, I think on watching the
episode.

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I think maybe it was handled
better than I remembered.

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It being handled, which is still
not great, but better for Glee.

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Sure.
Like I seemed I think I feel

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like I remember it being like
more fucked up kind of but maybe

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I'm confusing it kind of would
like some of the

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behind-the-scenes stuff, they
came out about it.

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Oh, because like I see in the
trivia, they said basically

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Darren Criss like hates the
pictures in the calendar of him.

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The they like digitally made him
look more.

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Often he is and all this stuff
and I was like, that's fucked.

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Yeah, they gave him more more
ABS.

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Yeah.
Which you can kind of tell when

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he is like, wearing his robe and
it's kind of really kind of

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closed around him.
Like oh yeah belly.

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He always has like a little
belly.

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Yeah.
But he's not an unfit person.

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They just surrounded him with
these like extremely muscled-up

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quote-unquote teenagers.
So he's my head and shit.

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Exactly.
So mmm.

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I mean he has a cross between on
scene and then on scene, right?

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Right.
The phrase on screen and behind

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the scenes.
Yes there is.

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I knew what you meant and I was
like I couldn't figure out how

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you said it wrong.
I was just like yeah yeah

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exactly and so hard I think yeah
so I guess the plot here is that

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the poor warblers have been
summarily rejected from

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competition because of doping
and now the uni directional.

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Is that once again have to raise
money for regionals?

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Is this not the most reused plot
line?

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That Glee is literally been
there fucking done that and it's

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$400, can like Quinn's parents
not just gives about to say,

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literally, like two parents
could write a check, would be

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done with this, not Sam's
parents, but other Beyonce

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everything.
You're right, you're right.

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We don't know what the
socioeconomic status of the rest

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of these students are, but like,
there are 10 people in the Glee

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Club.
That's $40 a piece could not be

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publicly humiliated, come on and
Tina's.

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First fucking thought was I'm
gonna get these guys naked,

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right?
And she's like, I have a whole

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Vision.
I'm gonna direct this whole

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photo shoot, oh Shake, she's
been waiting to get Blaine strip

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down reliever at least.
An episode.

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This is the beginning of the
like so blatant.

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It hurts like Blaine, Sam, Tina,
love triangle, thing, and the

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objective objectification of
Blaine, which has been in the

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background, but like, is really
intensified, and these upcoming

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episodes, and it's an intern.
I think it's an interesting

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conversation because obviously,
the fandom talks about playing

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/.
Darren's ass on the regular, but

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I I want to say that that's
different than the show doing

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it.
Yeah, I mean, they said people

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have a lot of opinions in fandom
to we'll just start there.

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So, like, probably not everyone
agrees, but I always felt like

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objectifying an actor not to
their face, or where they can

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read.
It is a lot different than, like

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cat calling them on the street
or like, groping him when you

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meet them in a meeting, great,
you know, So it's not adding

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them on Twitter, right?
You don't say it to their face.

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Yes, you put it in the thick.
You don't go away.

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You don't go up to these guys
and say like damn look at those

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abs like you say it to your
friends on the side, right?

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And that's where I'm like in the
episode.

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It's like, okay these guys
consented to taking their shirt

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off for a picture for a
calendar, like they knew that

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was gonna be.
That's what they could send to

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do.
They did not consent to Tina

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like saying some stuff about
their ass.

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Like what was that?
I didn't write down exactly what

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she said, but she's basically
like, Blaine has a juicy booty.

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Okay.
It's basically the line and I

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was like, Dina, and it's so
specific to the actor's real

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bodies.
Yes.

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And obviously the writers and
the showrunners know what people

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are saying online about the
actors and then they put it in

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the script and that's a lie.
Line that fandom police's itself

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on, hmm, that the show doesn't
police itself on.

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So it's, you know, Phantom is
like, hey, don't don't go to

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Darren and tell him.
He has a big-ass like not cool.

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But Ryan Murphy will write in
the script.

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Yeah, it's like not that many
more as besides.

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Where's the end of torque?
Is that Vibe?

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Yeah, I think it is.
Yeah, it's got to be.

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It is hmm.
So you go Your boss putting into

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your progress report.
Damn, girl.

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You got a big ass like that
literally or your insecurities

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right of Sam.
Feeling like he's not buff

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enough, there's no way to given
given the history of the Glee

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set and the history of the
scripts that come out of the

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Glee set.
There's is there a potential

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that Court Overstreet, had
expressed some insecurities

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about his body.
With the addition of the two new

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guys that just gets put right
into the script.

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I wouldn't be surprised based on
the history of the show.

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I yeah.
And I'm pretty sure Ryan Murphy

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read this episode.
He did.

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Yep.
Yeah.

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So if it, if there's any chance
that it's just a reference to a

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direct and security of an actor
and this is probably it Lea.

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Michele also probably had some
insecurities about being topless

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and he was just like, yeah, mmm.
Yeah.

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Right.
Everyone's insecurities into an

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episode love it?
It's just, it's a weird line.

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Yeah, when you're the, what?
It's like, your job.

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I don't know.
It's, it's a lot.

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I'm sure there are much smarter
people with phds, who could say,

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like the exact right words about
why it's troubling.

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I feel like there's a lot of
shows where they incorporate the

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personalities of the actors and
it makes the show better Parks

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and Rec I think is a big one,
you know, like the person

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Mallet.
He's of the actors really flush

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out a lot of the characters
like, like Donna.

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The didn't really have much
characterization at first even

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though she's been there since
like episode 1.

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Season one, she really didn't
become much of a character until

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later and a lot of that stuff
was like pulled from read a

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herself which is great.
And I could talk about Parks and

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Rec all day Parks and Rec on the
rocks.

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Oh my God.
It have to be like the opposite

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of on the Rocks though because I
think that show which is pretty

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close to perfect.
I mean, for his time for sure.

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Um, but I feel like in Glee, it
was always the opposite.

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I think it's not like, oh, our
actors are such interesting.

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Complicated people.
Like, it's more like, Ah, that's

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something that you hate about
yourself.

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I can write that into a vicious
rant that someone's going to say

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directly to your face for hours
a day on end, like love that you

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can secure about your voice.
That's your entire character's

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personality.
Exactly.

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And I just feel like Like it
could have been the clearly.

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There are shows where the
showrunner chooses to make that

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a positive thing and then you
have Glee where it's like just

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fucked up.
Yeah, totally.

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So yeah, totally.
So just puts a, an odd taste to

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the calendar, which could have
been, I just think really funny,

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right?
And instead, you get a lot of

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commentary about Bodies which
again a great conversation to

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have maybe not on Glee.
Yeah.

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With already making some very
astute observations that not

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everyone looks like they're on
the CW because they don't and

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especially like high school
students don't necessarily have

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eight pack abs.
I don't know about your high

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school but mine didn't
literally, I try to think of

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like who would be the buffest
person in high school?

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I guess like the guys who play
football and they do like their

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workouts you know definitely Ali
did not have muscle definition

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like that.
Like absolutely not.

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Maybe High School guys today cuz
they're working out nine hours a

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day and they're on steroids.
I don't know.

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But yeah.
And like it's also.

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There are barely 18 and Tina's
out there hard creeping.

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Yeah.
A little note, I don't know,

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most of them are not 18.
I mean, in the plaza, that's

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true because, you know, I'm a
sophomore bubbles or sophomores.

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And so there, what 16 may be a
whore?

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Yeah great 16:17.
Yeah where's the parental

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consent to this.
Where's the worst?

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The permission slips?
I knew that there had to be

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permission slips.
That's true.

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If you think about the actual
work that needed to go into this

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there have been permission slips
and wouldn't figgins how to have

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sign off on it.
Yeah.

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And like canonically Finn is
like 19 or 20 Max he's not in a

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position to green-light
something like this.

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He's not even a real teacher,
right?

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I just have me crying.
No, I love that.

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They keep pointing that out.
Yes, please keep pointing that

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out.
He this man has not attended

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College, not one day of his
life.

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No, he should not be in charge
of anybody.

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I love to see him on screen.
Great growth happening.

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Especially with his conversation
at the end with all ready.

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Yeah.
Whooo quite obviously doesn't

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want to pose for the calendar
because he feels different and

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differentiate it from the other
guys.

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Which is only ironic.
Now 10 years later with what

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Kevin McHale looks like.
Hmm.

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Yeah.
But he's not cool as showing off

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his body and he shouldn't be
forced to do it because everyone

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else is doing it.
Yes.

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Or put in a position to feel
inferior by having to have a

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prop or be clothed.
Never never and else's naked.

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Like then it stands out more and
It's his right to not do and I

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appreciated how quickly Finn
understood that and came around

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to that and that was a nice
character growth for him.

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Yeah.
That's where I was like oh this

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episode is actually like a
little better than I remember it

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being like because the whole
conversation around already like

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not wanting to post shortlist
not wanting to you know not

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really secure about being in his
chair.

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Not definitely not happy about
not being in his chair in the

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pictures and like the I said
that was like, clearly talked

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about multiple times throughout
the episode to multiple people

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who did, you know, try to find
Solutions and supported like

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still wanted already in the
calendar.

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Like he was never excluded.
It was already being like OK, I

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just I don't I'm going to be
different and I don't know how I

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feel about that and I don't know
what the right solution is and

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eventually they do come to a
solution and I thought that was

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like oddly poignant for gonna be
my business.

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Like a pretty as far as like the
after-school.

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Specially kind of story lines.
Go like body issues is one that

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I think they definitely in the
end of torque comes up.

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Again.
Maybe in some other places I

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guess would like the whole
Marley storyline to like body

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issues is something that keeps
coming up and like lo and

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behold.
This one about guys worrying

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about how buff they are is
actually handled pretty well.

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It's like a room full of men
writing about this.

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Exactly.
Like they have no idea how to

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write about women's issues.
Use your bodies but men they

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they somehow did a great job.
Yeah, this whole thing did it

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was in the fondue for two sketch
where Brittany calls out.

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Marley for her, bulimia, in an
entire episode about body image

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was like, hold on, wait wait,
yeah.

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You want to roll that one back?
Because this might be the time

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to talk about it in the
literally and it and it sees and

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it still wasn't even like
completely unpacked or anything.

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It was a joke Yeah, it was like
all right cool.

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She's a woman and they don't
know how to do that.

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Exactly.
She's like, haha aren't women's

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little did eating disorder so
quaint, I don't know.

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It's a weird Vibes.
It was, it was weird Vibes.

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Like didn't have to, it would
have been better, just not to

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mention it, maybe literally
because that's like the sea

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plot.
I guess in this episode is that

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like Marley and Jake are trying
to tell each other?

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That they love you.
I love you to translate to

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other.
I love you.

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Trying to tell them each other.
Each other and that they love

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each other.
Each other?

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Yes, yes.
So Brittany wants Marley to be

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vulnerable and honest with Jake.
My another dimension of naked I

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guess.
Yeah and another definition or

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good?
Huh.

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One issue.
I do have with Glee and it's an

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ongoing.
One is like there are 16 17

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years old.
Like they don't have to tell

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each other.
They love anything.

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Their brains are mush.
They just like each other

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reasoning skills.
They have they known each other

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for like two months now 3.
That's a teenager thing.

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That's where I go to like ugly.
Sometimes rides teenagers really

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well, they'll be like this
moment and I'm like, oh yeah, I

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remember being a teenager and
like wanting to tell my little

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my little boyfriend that I loved
him, like, like, Jesus venerable

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with him, like, do they know
those words now?

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That that's, that's weird.
They don't know that.

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Come on, you know, but teenagers
nowadays.

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And I like to think it's because
of Glee, you know, what will

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give them that credit?
Let's give, yeah, let's give

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Glee credit for teenagers now
being more vocal with their

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feelings.
Yes.

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Which is maybe terrible.
I always think of, in 21 Jump

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Street where they're like, they
go back to high school

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undercover as cause and they're
like baffled at these kids, like

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care about the environment and
like, protect their gay friends

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and like, don't want them to be
macho and he's like, you know,

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whose fault it is fucking Glee.
No, he's like fuck you ugly and

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that's where the Channing Tatum
gift comes from anyways and I

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think about that all the time.
I don't know if that's true or

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not but someone wrote that into
like a Blockbuster movie.

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So they're not getting some
truth to it.

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We probably made a whole
generation of people more

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accepting and tolerant and I
don't know how to feel about

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that.
It's really hard to want to give

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them credit but sometimes you
have to I know and it's like oh,

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I know I so I do appreciate
Marley asking Jake to meet her

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in the auditorium to work on
songs for regional one because

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she wants to work on songs for
regionals.

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Yes.
Somebody other than to someone's

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got to do it.
More than two days before.

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Yes.
God please.

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This is about preparation.
They've done for any competition

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effort.
Really?

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Is it really is but it does turn
out that.

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I am still mad about the two of
them saying, 1,000 years, and

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not Kurt and Blaine, literally,
I was glad you brought this up

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because I thought the same thing
I Ember when we got like, the

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song list, everybody was like,
oh my God and it was fucking

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Marley and Jake.
Yep.

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Not even in an explicitly
romantic context either.

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I mean it is but it also isn't
right.

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Like she's just like oh this is
this is for sectionals and they

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sing it and it's obviously very
like romantic and then she's

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like, oh never mind.
I don't want to do that one.

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It meant nothing.
Yeah.

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Like she didn't even take the
opportunity to say I love you.

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I remember being Boiling with
rage, not awesome.

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Like here's a perfect clean song
and it's just fucking I know

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over the time and I don't even
hate Marley and Jake.

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No, I think there's usually
looks around with the song.

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Like I think it was beautiful so
cute and I appreciate Jacob

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Artist for being so serious.
And this episode like he really

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like Jake's character
development, like he sells it.

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He does this.
Especially this time around this

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re-watch.
Yes.

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They're so cute and, you know,
great for them, but back the

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fuck off the song, it was 2013.
Maybe know this song belongs

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here.
We're is that, they, they

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squandered so many songs on the
whole, like, Marley Jake Ryder.

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Shit, I'm still bitter now
later.

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Jake, sings the Neo song.
Let me love you.

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Oh, that hurts.
Whatever the fuck else that song

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was called.
He sounds great.

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So good for cute, love it
fantastic.

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No notes yes that one.
Just like surprised because I

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gotta say the the music in this
episode was not great it's

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pretty worn a lot of swing and a
miss but I do.

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Yes I'm glad you brought that up
because Jake's cover of Let Me

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Love You was really good.
Haley sounded amazing, it felt

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very sincere.
It was good, it was good,

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Donuts, can't complain.
But he still doesn't tell

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Marlene that he loves her.
Even though grit is britni,

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right?
She's like, don't you have

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something you want to say?
Yeah, just right, early?

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Sitting that way yeah.
Aren't you going to tell her?

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And he's like nope and ends up
telling her by writing it in her

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men of McKinley calendar.
Wow.

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What a what a Memento.
It's like in your yearbook have

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a bomb-ass summer I love you
literally like my wife wrote for

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the first time that she loved me
in a book as well but it wasn't

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a picture of her topless.
It's a different vibe.

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Different vibe happens later.
Oh man and not in front of like

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the entire school.
I know there's the both times

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that Jake could chose to like
try and say it word.

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So public I feel like when I was
a teenager like Saying I love

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you is like embarrassing like
you wanted to and you felt all,

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you know warm and fuzzy but it
was like like the so with Jake

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sitting there on that stool and
those two older.

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Well Britt was older right.
Well she didn't graduate.

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Yeah.
Sitting there be like it's going

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to say do you want to say
something?

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Hey, you want to say something?
I would have probably puked in

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embarrassment.
Died to been run outside, either

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as Marley or is Jake.
I would spend like Boo.

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Yeah.
Oh my God, I'd never be in the

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Glee Club because of my
embarrassment levels but the

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same like just thinking about it
and now the more, the more we

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talk about ugly, the more I'm
like, God, I'm really glad High

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School choir was not like this
at all, because I can't imagine

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like the people that I was in
choir with I fucking hated most

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of those people if they had to
get up and just seeing a heart

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felt like love song to each
other once a week.

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I would know blow my brains out
this terrible.

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Yeah.
It's like I thought we were To

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sing for something.
No, we're just singing

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literally.
It's like there's a competition.

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We don't even have a set list.
Y'all are just staring at each

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other.
Well before we get to Rachel who

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I think is like the she the B
plot or the sea plot.

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I feel like a plot has been in
McKinley.

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I guess you should argue between
Rachel or Jake and Marley on who

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the fuck that is, maybe they're
both.

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Maybe we can jump and be like
Sam.

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I was going to make like a b-cup
joke but I don't know.

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Yes, a cup.
No Sam's got bigger than a cups.

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That's true.
Does Rachel know, I don't know

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what is this data?
Call them like mosquito bites or

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something to get away, we do
have salmon bread as sexy teen

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imbeciles.
I love fittings.

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He's so underutilized, he really
has that cannabis has the

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highest and lowest scores on the
SATs ever received at McKinley.

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Which what?
She said she draw a penis and

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unicorn.
Uh-huh.

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Yeah.
And then like a is until she got

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bored and then switched my I
know they talk more about this

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later.
These are go back to this within

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a different plot, but I still
don't understand it.

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I also think the lowest score
you can get on the SAT as a 400.

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Not A340.
I think you get enough points or

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putting her name.
It's like showing up.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Are we still on?
The Sam is dumb.

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I Vibe even though we know he
has dyslexia it's like they said

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in an episode that Sam had
dyslexia and immediately forgot

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it because it is not brought up
here and because people like oh

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well you can just take it again
but they don't say like maybe

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you need a commendations or
something like that.

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Yeah, they're just like this.
Again, it's fine.

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If the outcome of the SAT scores
was that he wasn't going to be

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able to go.
To the same colleges couldn't

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that have also couldn't.
We have gotten there also that

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he couldn't afford to write, did
it have to be that?

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He's an idiot.
Because not cool because I Sam

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is not dumb.
Like he may not be book.

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Smart like college isn't for
everyone.

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I think I would have liked
better.

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It says scene instead of being
like, here's some colleges that

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don't require SATs if they'd
been like what about trade

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school?
What about crazy College.

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Like, you don't have.
Go straight to a four-year

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institution.
A school is not your thing.

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Like you're just going to have a
lot of student loans that you

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can't pay back.
Don't fucking do.

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It is a scam and it won't be
until 2022.

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When the government Mike start
making some consolations toward

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the fact that student loans are
predatory and even then some

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consolation is like, that's like
overstating it but I go, I don't

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know, I'm just thinking, even If
you guessed your entire way

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through the SATs, you'd end up
with above A340.

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I think, even if you picked C
for everything, you don't get

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above it 340 like that's crazy
and I know it's supposed to be

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funny, but it just pissed me off
more when Brittany was like, I

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might go to MIT or the
University of California at

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Charles Barkley's house.
Oh my God, it was so funny and

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but I was like uh, for stay on.
This is also his girlfriend

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right?
Are they still together?

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I did they break up.
I only got her because I just

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have that they just had a
storyline together, I think.

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Sure it doesn't matter.
They're not acting together so

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maybe they broke up only does
that though.

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We're every couple episodes they
forget that characters who are

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dating, I think dating and then
they act like strangers because

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they Glee actually that was two
episodes together.

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Had the marriage storyline.
Did they break up in that

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episode?
No, okay.

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I don't I you you wouldn't know
that I've literally watched

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everything watch them.
I usually take very detailed

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notes.
I've got like two and a half

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pages of notes on this episode.
I'm still, like wait, are they

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together?
Let's say yes for now.

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I feel like they probably are.
Anyways, you know what?

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Tell us if they're together.
Yeah it was like a pole someone

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to.
Yeah.

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But no totally there.
The lack of discussions in media

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about the, I was going to see
the efficacy, and that's not the

453
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:53,200
right word, but the possibility
even of community, colleges and

454
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,100
traces is nuts.
It's a legitimacy.

455
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,900
Yeah.
Legitimacy thing, yes.

456
00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:03,400
Like, I, it's baffling.
And I know that a lot of it is

457
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,600
late stage capitalism and
morality placed on levels of

458
00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:11,500
education and All this shit that
we've placed on ourselves over

459
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:15,600
the last few years, just to make
for-profit colleges money,

460
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,500
right?
Right.

461
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800
We know the mechanisms behind
it, but we don't have to keep

462
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,600
doing this.
You don't have to go this.

463
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,400
People listening to this
episode.

464
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,900
You don't have to wait before
your institution, if you are not

465
00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:30,800
prepared to make a call on what
you think you want to study.

466
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,200
Yes.
Do you don't?

467
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,400
Don't do it.
Go to a two-year, spend a

468
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,100
fraction of the money.
Get an AA or not.

469
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,400
And Count.
What you think you might want to

470
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,300
do?
Yes you're going to change your

471
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,500
mind so many fucking times.
It's going to irritate you and

472
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:49,100
everyone in your family and your
friends and that's good.

473
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,400
It's really good to change your
mind because you wanted to be a

474
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,100
vet when you were six and I
promise you don't want to be a

475
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,500
vet now.
And you know what?

476
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:59,000
I feel, like upon graduating
from high school.

477
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,800
Most students don't know what
actually goes into like, a

478
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,400
career.
Like you, if you are at least,

479
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,000
this was my experience, if you
were kind of smart and you, Kind

480
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,300
of like science.
They were like great, you're

481
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:13,000
going to be a doctor, okay?
Kind of smart and you kind of

482
00:27:13,008 --> 00:27:14,300
like English, they're like
great, you're going to be a

483
00:27:14,308 --> 00:27:15,300
lawyer.
I like that.

484
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,700
Was it or teacher?
Yes, or something like that.

485
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,700
And it's like so you're like,
okay, well, that's what I'm

486
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:24,300
going to be but I mean kids have
more internet now.

487
00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:27,000
So like maybe that was a product
of its time but like I feel like

488
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,800
I didn't know what it took to go
to medical school or like what

489
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,400
the classes I was going to have
to take in college would be like

490
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,600
or even what a doctor fucking
does on a day-to-day basis?

491
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:40,000
I think in my head, it was all
about Like patient care.

492
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:43,500
Not true you know and I think
that goes for like probably like

493
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,900
any career that you pick at
random like as a little kid and

494
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,000
you just say you're going to do
it but there's no like career

495
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,900
preparation in high school.
So you get to college and you

496
00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:58,400
start taking these prereqs in
your like, oh no, I hate organic

497
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,600
chemistry.
Or I hate, you know, poli-sci or

498
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,700
whatever, you got yourself into
and it is extremely difficult

499
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:08,700
and expensive to completely
change course.

500
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:12,700
You know, halfway through it,
it's career, it's odd.

501
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:16,600
There's a ton of careers that
you don't even know exist until

502
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,100
you start.
Yes.

503
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:22,700
Living in the world.
Like you think the one that

504
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,500
kills me now and part of his
like, oh, I could actually go

505
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,400
back to school, but I also
would, I'm, like, never gonna do

506
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,200
that again, but if someone had
actually told me, what being a

507
00:28:32,208 --> 00:28:35,700
librarian was, I would have
beeline for that literally, why

508
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:38,100
did I not become a library?
And I think about these all the

509
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,600
time.
I put the love.

510
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,500
What?
Are you librarian?

511
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:41,700
Right?
Exactly.

512
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,500
Nobody ever, because I already
have interests in English and

513
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:50,500
history and religion, and
polycyclic all these interests,

514
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:54,500
but no one ever said, like, you
know, there are so many kinds of

515
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:58,100
librarians, right?
You do a multitude of things.

516
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:03,300
It's not just sitting in an
underutilized School library, my

517
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,500
you checking out books.
Like, that's not a librarian.

518
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:09,100
Like, oh my God, I would have
angled, right fucking RIT.

519
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,400
I don't know why I never thought
of that.

520
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,800
I spent so much fucking time at
the public library at the school

521
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,500
libraries like what?
Why did I never?

522
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:20,200
There were white search
Librarians, who just is who just

523
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
helped people, they help other
students research shit.

524
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,400
There's any Zelda runs
Librarians and then there's ones

525
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,200
who do like the teen rooms and
like the teen events and like,

526
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,300
there's so we're just purely
academic research in an

527
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:34,700
institution.
If you don't want to do that,

528
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,200
like there's multitude, I love
to be able to look library and

529
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,100
like building.
Little displays like they do a

530
00:29:40,108 --> 00:29:43,700
little like, he's a 10 but have
you seen those?

531
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:45,400
Yes.
Like the red flag.

532
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,700
That's so fucking cute.
Just like, curating a little

533
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:51,000
book displaying like make a
little things.

534
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200
I fucking love it but no one
tells you that's a career path

535
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800
because you have to have a like
a master's degree in it.

536
00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,100
You can't just Waltz into a
library, not at all.

537
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,900
It's upsetting.
So, like, Emma could have given

538
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:10,300
Sam, anything, anything any
Other information Beyond.

539
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,300
Here's some colleges that don't
take SATs.

540
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,400
Yeah, any other information and
it's infuriating.

541
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,800
And I know that Glee is not an
after school special and it's

542
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,900
not on PBS.
That's a fucking show to

543
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,700
entertain you.
But now I'm best shows.

544
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:30,200
Also show people the
possibilities outside of

545
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,100
Television.
Exactly.

546
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200
I feel like they could have just
at least thrown it out there but

547
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,100
no not even that.
It's just like of course you're

548
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:41,600
going to a four-year institution
and taking on a hundred thousand

549
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,100
dollars in student debt because
that's everyone that's what your

550
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,200
trajectory should be like.
Is it though?

551
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:49,300
Although I guess she did try to
help him with like the

552
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:53,000
scholarship thing she's like
just write an essay you okay

553
00:30:53,300 --> 00:31:02,500
with dyslexia just sit down and
write this and then you know,

554
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:07,600
everyone feels Armed little
videos about how much they liked

555
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,100
him.
Like what is he going to do with

556
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:12,200
that?
Turn that in Blaine was like

557
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,700
that's your essay?
I know.

558
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,700
That's what what?
Okay, what of course TV is a

559
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,100
visual medium.
So they're like, you know world

560
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,700
put together it'll be like video
clips of people but it's like oh

561
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:31,700
what is the has got a Transit
and it's cute.

562
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,300
That would mean is little It's
like those birthday videos

563
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:38,200
people do for their friends but
like, oh, yeah, more meaningful.

564
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,600
I guess.
Like Ryan Murphy went to

565
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,400
college.
He knows a little bit even

566
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,700
convinced he went to high
school.

567
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:48,000
Sometimes, I feel like the show
is written.

568
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:52,800
It's real, right?
He said he did, I don't really

569
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,700
believe anything that Ryan
Murphy says, I don't generally,

570
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,400
as, in general, as he graduated
from high school in

571
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Indianapolis, but like, did he?
Yeah.

572
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Mmm-hmm.
Oh yeah, I'd I saw that in the

573
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,700
trivia for this episode because
regionals is going to be in

574
00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:14,400
Indianapolis, which is where
Ryan Murphy's from and he wrote

575
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,800
the episode.
He was like, shout out to Envy.

576
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:20,100
Yeah.
I hate that guy.

577
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,400
I do think that the little the
whole Sam Blaine, friendship is

578
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,100
so cute.
I wish they hadn't fucked it up

579
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:27,700
with like the unrequited.
Love thing.

580
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:31,700
I really wish they had same.
These moments are perfect, know.

581
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,600
So like done, Amazing Friends.
One who could see through his

582
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,300
bullshit because Sam is like not
a fun person to be around and

583
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:43,900
this episode like you, some of
it like he's like, Very like,

584
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:47,600
kind of tyrannical towards the
other guys, like getting them in

585
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,100
shape for the calendar in, like
he himself is like, oh, I gotta,

586
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,200
we gotta take the pictures,
quick, or I'm gonna lose like,

587
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,200
my definition, like he's like a
puppet, writes, like, pumped up

588
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,900
my palm.
He's like, I'm like, who's got

589
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:05,400
the Roid Rage now?
There's too much, but it did

590
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,400
also give us the one in my
humble opinion is the worst

591
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,100
mashup.
The Glee has ever done.

592
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Hot in here, hot in here. /
centerfold.

593
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,300
What if I just pick one or the
other?

594
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,400
Those are both good songs in
their own, right.

595
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:23,100
Do you put them together and you
hate it?

596
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,100
I, it's really bad.
Hot in here.

597
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,100
Would have been an amazing song
on its own.

598
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,600
Simple didn't need to be there.
Yes.

599
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:35,600
D - it's like Charlie like the
most nonsensical.

600
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:38,700
It had the feeling that there
was like a fight in the writers

601
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:41,200
room, we're like half of them
were like, we're going to do hot

602
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,300
in here and the other half was
like We're gonna vote for this,

603
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,300
like Montage of them, like,
getting ready for the calendar.

604
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:52,400
And so, some enterprising young
person was like, whatever will

605
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,400
make it a matchup?
It's really bad, it's

606
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,900
objectively really bad, it's
really bad.

607
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,700
Yeah, it's bad.
I if you like the song, we will

608
00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:09,400
need to hear your apology.
I would love to hear like a like

609
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,100
a another account or point
because I do see Phil how you

610
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,800
can feel like you know it's got
some points.

611
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,400
Know it ruined both songs.
It doesn't also don't love

612
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,900
watchin dudes.
Do push-ups off women.

613
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:25,100
But yes yeah, Barbara the girls
in the boys, locker room this

614
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:28,300
whole episode, I don't know, I'm
like helping them like helping

615
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:32,000
them like just to get the
Cheerios in there.

616
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,900
I guess, right?
Because it wasn't even like just

617
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:36,199
the Glee Girls, huh?
It was like some random Cheerios

618
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,500
to okay.
Yeah, because there's a dance

619
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:40,100
squad.
Yes.

620
00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:43,600
Like the Cheerios would never
Making sure the new directions

621
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,199
got to go to Regionals, though.
They especially not when they're

622
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,900
trying to Blackmail.
Yeah, Su with nudes?

623
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:57,700
Wait, I love today.
What was it that she posed in

624
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,100
Penthouse after taking horse,
estrogen.

625
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,900
Oh man.
Which apparently is a throwback

626
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:08,300
to something that was said in
like season one.

627
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,000
I think so.
Yeah, it was as though in a,

628
00:35:11,008 --> 00:35:12,900
remember the mid version of the
Pilot.

629
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,700
Yeah, that's what they remember
the throwback to a random

630
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:23,300
comment and the extent of no and
although it was never aired.

631
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,800
I know.
It's like you guys want to have

632
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,700
continuity and that's it.
Oh yeah.

633
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,400
I'm glad they brought back
fondue for two though.

634
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,800
This is like the first episode.
It comes back in since the first

635
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,700
time it was there.
Apparently, this is all from

636
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:41,300
Glee wiki so I trust them with
my life.

637
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,000
They said this is the first
appearance of fondue for two

638
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,700
since it's only appearance in
season 2 episode rumors, huh?

639
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
And then from now on it becomes
like a recurring.

640
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:57,200
Okay.
Oh, and they also throw back to

641
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,400
Santana.
Sex tape.

642
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,300
Sorry.
We I would say.

643
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,000
That's a nice Flat Line.
Yeah.

644
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,700
Yeah, I we can jump to Rachel
because I did love the recall to

645
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,800
the sex tape.
Yes, for very for four reasons.

646
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,300
Do we want to just jump into?
Yeah Rachel's B or C plot line

647
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,200
depending on how important if
you want me to do, you want me

648
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,100
to?
Yeah, let's do it.

649
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,600
So, Rachel gets cast in a
student film at nyada And is

650
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,300
asked if she will appear topless
and she says yes, initially.

651
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:34,100
Yes.
But not not before she sings a

652
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:37,400
duet with herself.
Yeah.

653
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:45,900
Um, which I also hated, I gotta
be honest, I hated, I love the

654
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:49,000
song torn because, yeah, you
know, you grew up in that era

655
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,700
and like, who doesn't love
Natalie Imbruglia.

656
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:56,800
There's so much about this
entire Conversation around a

657
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,400
woman getting topless for a
movie.

658
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,900
That is like, oh yeah, dudes.
Did write this today, right?

659
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Literally, it's hard to unpack
because it, some of it is like

660
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,800
disingenuous, some of its
obviously for Giggles for the

661
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,500
show.
So Rachel's obviously at odds

662
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,300
with herself about whether or
not she wants to do it, she sees

663
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:24,200
the younger version of herself
in her old, Rachel attire.

664
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:29,400
Viewing about the virtues of
getting naked on camera and like

665
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:33,600
old Rachel calls her, and her
makeup porn star s come.

666
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:36,100
She would like your hair is out
of control or something.

667
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,700
You just like I was funny is
funny, but then they don't

668
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:41,300
change anything either.
Change it.

669
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,600
Yeah.
Just going forward.

670
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,900
Like OK.
Like y'all just saying that

671
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:49,500
Rachel Berry says slut.
Yeah, they like your hair's

672
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,300
getting out of troll.
New Rachel says Fair she like

673
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,700
agrees with her and then it
never changing us on the team.

674
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:55,900
So, we Do you agree with her
hair?

675
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:57,300
Extensions are nuts.
Okay.

676
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,900
I know her brain her blood and
there's only one way to resolve

677
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:04,100
this sing about it.
Like, okay, sing torn.

678
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,600
I think because there's a line
about being naked in it.

679
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,300
Yes, I think I literally think
that's why they picked the song.

680
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,800
It just doesn't fit Lee
Michelle's voice at all.

681
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,900
Her voice, her styled nothing.
I would have loved to hear like

682
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,500
Santana.
Sing that song, honestly,

683
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,500
anybody else?
I know it was not good, but I

684
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,900
think you're totally right.
I have these episodes.

685
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,900
I feel like they I'm going to
slap the word up on the board

686
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:28,900
naked.
That's what this is that's going

687
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:32,200
to be about and yeah, they've
been someone Googled song,

688
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,400
lyrics, what's wrong with the
world that can 100% knows

689
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,300
exactly what I was gonna say,
but you're just flipping through

690
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:40,100
a playlist like, who Natalie
Imbruglia done?

691
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:45,800
So it's like so many times, it's
just like too on the nose or or

692
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,600
so off base that you're like, it
had to have just been that

693
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,800
because like, the one they sing
afterwards love song.

694
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,400
What?
I know, I think in a write you a

695
00:38:54,408 --> 00:38:58,200
love song Like, I think that
would only worked if you know

696
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,200
the background of the song or at
least I thought.

697
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,400
So because like, Sara Bareilles
wrote that song because her

698
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,400
management or whatever her label
wanted her to write a love song.

699
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,800
So she wrote that is like a like
a fuck you to them.

700
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,500
And then she blew up and now she
can do whatever she wants.

701
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,600
So I kind of was like oh it is
kind of a Fuck You song, ^ the

702
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,500
day that had a good friend
context within the show.

703
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,600
No, you have to, like, know the
background of the song know.

704
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,500
Exactly.
Yeah to know what's happening in

705
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:34,500
the show and the show was just
like, I'm not gonna, I'm not

706
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,500
gonna take my top off.
They could change the lyrics.

707
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:43,300
Yeah, I don't think they talk.
I don't think there's naked in

708
00:39:43,308 --> 00:39:48,500
that song so I don't know how
they decided, maybe Ryan Murphy

709
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:51,000
may just really like Sara
Bareilles that kind of than

710
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,300
enough for him.
I mean, she's America's

711
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:55,700
Sweethearts.
So yeah.

712
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,700
There was there's also something
really silly about old Rachel

713
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:03,700
calling new Rachel's attire.
Slutty.

714
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,700
When she's the world's shortest
skirt, I know.

715
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,800
And like the fly high socks.
Like, come on, like, you're

716
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,700
dressed like every schoolgirl
fantasy, right?

717
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:15,600
That's what they.
That's also, a porn outfits.

718
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Just a different, kind of porn.
Just a different vibe.

719
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,700
It's all retail has always look
a little horny.

720
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,900
Is this, are we just now
realizing this or what?

721
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:27,000
Yeah.
Yeah, but the arguments about

722
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,900
whether or not to be naked on
film are so Difficult anyway.

723
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,700
Mmm, because you have to
deconstruct so many layers of

724
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:40,200
misogyny and male gaze and
consent.

725
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,400
And why is this character naked
in the first place?

726
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,100
Like, right?
Like when you write a character

727
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,700
being naked, like, why are you
doing that in the first place?

728
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:49,200
Is because it shows our
vulnerability.

729
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,800
Like, does it though?
Or do you think it does?

730
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,000
Yes.
Are you already trained as a

731
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,500
writer to assume that nakedness
on-screen equals vulnerability?

732
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,800
Did you learn that?
From a writer in your classes

733
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,700
when you really think it like
it's too.

734
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,700
It's too much for Glee to just
say, it's feminism.

735
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,500
Like, it's not though.
Yes.

736
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,900
It's it's not because we only
have these questions around

737
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,600
women on screen.
We never have these questions

738
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
about men.
I feel like the counter-argument

739
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,300
I've like, you can't do this is
because like, either your

740
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:25,000
children will be scarred one day
or you will feel shame.

741
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,100
Those were like really the only
two arguments.

742
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,700
I mean, I guess the other one
was like All make you not look

743
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,200
like a serious enough actor for
your serious actor, career.

744
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,200
But it's like it's a student
film.

745
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:44,700
And it is this going on her IMDb
credits like they might Chic but

746
00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:47,200
like a she go like I don't know,
I just can't see.

747
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:49,900
I don't know.
Just seems so low stakes but

748
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:52,000
maybe I just don't understand
how it works.

749
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,300
It will follow you especially in
the age of the internet.

750
00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:59,500
Like if there's a copy, there's
a copy, which was Santana's

751
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:01,000
point, right?
Like right.

752
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:05,900
As a copy, there's a copy.
And I think for me, anyway, the

753
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,800
argue the Russian around like
why are you doing?

754
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,600
This is pretty intense.
If you think, you know, I do you

755
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,700
really want to or do you think
you want to because of XY and z

756
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,100
or are you, are you having a
where is your rational coming

757
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,100
from?
Like what level of?

758
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Hmm, internalized.
Misogyny is this coming from?

759
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600
I think it's similar arguments
around bring makeup and around

760
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,000
wearing high heels and all these
different like I'm doing it for

761
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,100
myself.
Like, but are you?

762
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,500
Mmm.
Are you though?

763
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,400
That's it makes me feel good.
Like does it, or does it satisfy

764
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,100
a number of other things?
True, because of every other

765
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
internal and external input that
you get from society.

766
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,200
And I feel like this is, like,
always more of a thing with

767
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,200
women to like, yeah, Harper sent
any choice.

768
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,100
You make is not just a choice,
you made, like it's also has so

769
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:04,500
many layers of like stations and
pressure and tradition and and

770
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:06,300
if you don't do it, you're just
approved.

771
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,600
Yeah.
But are you I was like if you

772
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,700
choose not to wear makeup that's
like making a statement.

773
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:13,000
If you choose to wear makeup
that's like making a statement.

774
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, think about it for more

775
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,000
than two seconds before you make
a choice?

776
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:23,200
Yeah, I think about why you're
make it like, no, but it's Glee

777
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,900
right?
So, really, it's about well,

778
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:28,400
your children think, it's gross.
That's not.

779
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,900
The real question, was
considering similar to I know

780
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,300
similar to like, all the
conversations that they had with

781
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:37,900
R&D throughout the episode about
him deciding whether to take

782
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,500
Take your shirt off.
I do feel like, at least I liked

783
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:43,800
it.
You could kind of see that

784
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,900
Rachel felt empowered to change
her mind or like she kind of

785
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:48,400
made the decision for herself,
right?

786
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,300
Because she gets like, Feedback
from Kurt saying like don't

787
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:56,600
fucking do this, but then Brody
is like supportive such that he

788
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,500
is walking around naked in their
apartment.

789
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,800
To the rooster crows iconic
scene.

790
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,300
The rooster crows and then of
course, Kurt calls in Santana

791
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:10,800
and Quinn to visit her and
they're like, don't fucking do

792
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,700
this because my sex tape never
went away.

793
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,700
And like your kids will be
ashamed and then she still goes

794
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:21,000
to the set to film the scene,
and it's not until like She is

795
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,900
in the moment and knows in her
gut.

796
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:26,000
Like I don't want to do this,
that she is able to walk away

797
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,800
from it.
So like I don't know, I guess

798
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,600
she still didn't really say why
should just kind of like, no, I

799
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,000
don't want to, I don't know, but
it was also obvious.

800
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,900
They were never going to have
Rachel Berry take her top.

801
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,900
Off course not, right?
So the stakes were pretty low

802
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,900
other than like what was Glee
going to try to say about it,

803
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:49,300
right.
So what do you think they said

804
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:55,600
about it in the end?
I think they still leaned a

805
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:03,200
little too hard into the like
super old school slut virgin

806
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,900
argument, right?
Like Rachel's a good girl so she

807
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:10,200
didn't take her top off, right?
Like she's a serious actress,

808
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,800
she's really in it for her
crafts so she didn't take her

809
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,700
top off.
Like okay but like what are we

810
00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:21,200
now saying about what a good
girl, like are people who get

811
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,500
naked on film?
Not good actors, or serious

812
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:28,300
actors.
And like, what about the writers

813
00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:31,400
and directors?
Who write those like, aren't

814
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,200
they the first step in bad
movies, then, like, they're the

815
00:45:36,207 --> 00:45:38,800
ones who created the content,
then you force an actor into the

816
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,700
situation like, it's not.
The actor is not the first stop

817
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:47,800
in, who gets naked on film.
Mmm, it's the writer and then

818
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,000
the director and the producers
pushing it Forward, right?

819
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,100
So, it would have Some more it's
so hard because like it's

820
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,300
fucking Glee, you're never gonna
get this.

821
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,600
So we're depth to like, what her
thought process was, right?

822
00:46:01,900 --> 00:46:07,800
I think Kurt was, I didn't love
Kurt's, advice about this right?

823
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:13,300
Heart is really like killing of
the word, the type of argument

824
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:16,700
for this bike if you wanted to,
what did he say?

825
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,300
Because Brody was the one who's
like if you want to win an Oscar

826
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:21,400
you have to show your boobs like
know you don't.

827
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,700
Oh yeah, I named a bunch of
Actresses.

828
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:28,000
Yeah, Mmm.
Yeah, and Kurt was very prudish

829
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,400
is not the right word, very like
how could you possibly do this,

830
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,900
right?
Like, but why are you saying

831
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:35,600
that about her?
Like everyone needs to think

832
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,600
about what they're saying right
now?

833
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,500
And but they're ugly or the like
one and a half dimensional

834
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:45,600
characters they can write write
just it was no for me.

835
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,800
There was like just so much
happening in this episode that

836
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,300
on a one-hour drama or you know,
Movie would have been so much

837
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:57,200
more could have been a lot
deeper conversation about.

838
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,700
Right.
Why we do these things for

839
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:02,500
movies and TV because I have
shows like Euphoria.

840
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,200
Yeah which I won't watch because
yeah I don't say anything I'm

841
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,000
interested in it.
Yeah like I'm personally not

842
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,900
interested in watching 15 16
year olds have sex and do drugs

843
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:18,700
but I'm an old fuck so I mean
it's definitely not realistic.

844
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:24,100
Sorry yeah unlike those
actresses are All getting naked.

845
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,800
And there's a lot of
conversation about what happens

846
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,000
on said and with the director
and the Creator, like, Yeah.

847
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,600
It's have that conversation to
like are you doing this?

848
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,200
Because you want to because you
feel pressured by the

849
00:47:34,207 --> 00:47:37,400
production?
Like hmm, is it empowering or is

850
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,800
it the nature of things?
Are you saying it's empowering?

851
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Because if you don't, you're
blacklisted from Hollywood.

852
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:48,400
It's a lot that happens.
Hmm, don't go into Hollywood.

853
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,200
You guys being an actor.
It's not worth it.

854
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:52,300
Did you read?
Jeanette?

855
00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:55,600
McCarty's book?
No, I'm glad my mom died one

856
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,900
that you've got my own dad.
Yeah, I just finished it this

857
00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:59,200
week.
Oh my God.

858
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:00,300
A lot about.
Yeah.

859
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,800
Is a lot about like, her mom
forcing her into acting

860
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,900
basically when she hated it.
So very interesting, like child

861
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,700
the fucking child actors
shouldn't exist.

862
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:11,500
Honestly.
No, they shouldn't just, it's

863
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:13,900
horrible, you really shouldn't.
And she ended up.

864
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:16,400
I mean, this is not a spoiler,
but she ended up getting like

865
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,400
exploited on so many levels such
that she didn't even get like

866
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:22,000
the cougar account.
Like, the 15% that she's

867
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,200
supposed to get from all the
men.

868
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,000
She met, does it minor half her
mom, just like, use this fucked

869
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
up.
Setting up the account

870
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000
apparently that can happen your
Aaron can just play.

871
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Yeah, I set that up and then not
and then that's it.

872
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,600
Like, that's cool table.
Yeah, insane.

873
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,900
So I do appreciate if the shows
are going to be about high

874
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:43,200
schoolers, of course, it's
absurd that they cast like 20 or

875
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,800
30, some things.
But I appreciate that in the

876
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,500
sense that I do to ya.
Don't ruin.

877
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:52,000
Any mean in a sense, our
childhood like forcing them to

878
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000
take the top off boy or girl?
Yeah, we have made fun of Glee

879
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,100
for like oh that guy looks like
he's 30.

880
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,800
Yeah.
But at the same time, I mean, of

881
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,100
course, you can exploit an
adult, but we made fun of

882
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,000
itself.
This episode, we're gonna be

883
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,200
partners as Hunter.
Like, I really, I thought that

884
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,600
was fun.
Don't you like to older than

885
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,500
high school?
I love you.

886
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,300
Yeah, but I, you know what?
It comes down to the safety.

887
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:17,300
Onset yapping, older actors play
high schoolers, I think is

888
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:21,500
infinitely better than putting
13 and 14 year olds into those

889
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:24,300
situation.
I absolutely think it's smart.

890
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,300
What a depressing episode that
we've turned this into these are

891
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Sorry, I know this is the
problem with Glee.

892
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,700
They take these heavy fucking
topics and like yeah, make him a

893
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:40,400
one-off joke episode.
Yeah, and it's like well, thanks

894
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,300
were left here to unpack that
for you just because you didn't

895
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:48,900
bother to your right there was a
lot of talk about like the

896
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,300
difference between girls and
guys taking their table off or

897
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:57,300
like yeah why is the pressure
they're like, yeah, so good.

898
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:58,900
You said it would better than I
could but yes.

899
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,800
I'm glad all my work experience.
I mean, not that I would have

900
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,400
ever been different but all my
work experiences behind the

901
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,500
camera and yeah offset like no,
thank you, I know.

902
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,000
Yeah, absolutely not.
Yeah.

903
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,400
I feel like when you're like a
kid that I mean, not every kid

904
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,300
obviously but I feel like being
a child actor.

905
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:22,300
Something that looks so
glamorous and like you're being

906
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,400
famous is like, it'll just solve
all your problems, you know?

907
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:31,200
And it's like, yeah.
Might solve like one but how

908
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,700
many more you get?
So Rachel does not take her top

909
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,100
off or well really they kept
saying ticket.

910
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:41,100
Uh but drop her robe.
Not sure what was happening on

911
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:42,900
Herbie.
I was the road out the bottoms.

912
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:46,700
I don't know, I didn't think I
thought it was kind of funny

913
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:51,000
when she had like the whole crew
working on the movie to take

914
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,200
their tops off.
I feel safer.

915
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,100
Yeah.
Which again is an interesting

916
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,100
little tidbit.
Yeah, like like feeling safe on

917
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:03,100
set, Set and then the pre
intimacy coordinator world.

918
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:05,200
Yes.
And that director just being so

919
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,700
like do it like chill.
Yeah.

920
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,300
Why do you want her to do this
so badly?

921
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:13,100
What are you doing?
But, and then at the end, when

922
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:15,600
Rachel walks off the directors,
like I guess I have to do it's

923
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,900
like what you just do it?
The whole time will never.

924
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:20,300
It's fucking leotta.
Like yeah.

925
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:23,000
You're there for directing but
you're also kind of there for

926
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,200
acting, I'm sure I'm sure just
wanted to do this the whole

927
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,700
time.
She just had to cast someone to

928
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,200
look legit in the first place.
Right?

929
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,200
Yeah.
It's like I tried to find it but

930
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:41,600
couldn't find anyone that's
funny after she walks off set,

931
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:47,100
she meets Santana and Quinn at a
random stage.

932
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,100
Sure.
Yeah, I don't know, a second, it

933
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:55,300
looked like they had just
arrived back at McKinsey head

934
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,100
anytime.
I see people on stage I think

935
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:01,800
it's like The High School
auditorium but it's not but they

936
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,300
still have lighting.
I don't know how they got there

937
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,000
but I do really love.
We already talked about love

938
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,900
song a little bit but I loved
their performance of it.

939
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:14,200
I think it sounds really good
like the three-part Harmony

940
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:18,400
know, they always doing great.
Yeah, I think I would have, I

941
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,800
would have liked a different
song.

942
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:25,100
Yeah, in there in here.
But again, the song Choices for

943
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:31,000
this episode were weak.
Yeah, but they sound they sound

944
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,600
lovely.
So it was nice to see them.

945
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,900
We also got the little hint from
Santana that she would be

946
00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:40,400
leaving Kentucky and potentially
moving to New York because it's

947
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,000
more her speed.
Hmm.

948
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,900
But how is she getting from
Kentucky to New York?

949
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:45,300
Anyway, this is there like a
train?

950
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,100
These boots are made for
walking.

951
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:52,400
I guess so I don't know when she
said that, I was like Kentucky.

952
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,700
How far is Kentucky?
It seems pretty far.

953
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:00,200
Okay so Kentucky is just the
like it shares a border with

954
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,100
Ohio, so it's about the same
distance.

955
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,900
Hmm.
Okay, which is something I just

956
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:06,500
learned probably identify
though.

957
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:11,000
Hmm, where Kentucky is it's like
I know Kentucky is above

958
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,100
Tennessee, but that means a lot
of things.

959
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,900
Like once you get above
Tennessee, I don't know any

960
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:20,500
geography and like realistic
terms, okay?

961
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:23,100
Honestly, once you get east of
the Rockies, I lose it.

962
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:28,100
States start looking the same.
Yeah, start questioning their

963
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:32,100
practices and their Dust Bowl.
I've always grown up in these

964
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,500
states where it's like, it takes
about six hours to drive from

965
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:35,900
one side of the state to the
other.

966
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:40,000
And then you get to these states
where it's like, you can get

967
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,900
from side to side in an hour.
Well, there's no traffic and

968
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,900
that's those little baby States.
Fuck is this baby state that

969
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:51,200
don't get it?
Yeah, it takes four and a half,

970
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,200
four and a half five hours to
drive from where I am to the

971
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,700
Eastern edge of Washington at,
but that doesn't count.

972
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,200
That's, you're missing the
peninsula.

973
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,400
All right.
Let's go straight.

974
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,300
So it's but you got to go up
over a mountain range and then

975
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:07,800
through, right?
So just four and a half.

976
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,400
Yeah, we're not a tiny State.
I know people forget that's like

977
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,700
the size that I'm used to
because like Alabama, Louisiana

978
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:17,700
are both kind of like that.
It's like five, six hours, the

979
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:20,600
long way, and like, maybe three
hours the other way.

980
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,700
So I, you probably can drive
from He'd to New York, you

981
00:54:25,707 --> 00:54:30,200
probably shouldn't, but I think
Google Map.

982
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,600
They said Blaine always flew.
He's like a rich kid.

983
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:36,400
Where does where did she go to
school?

984
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,000
I forget.
Uh-huh.

985
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:46,500
Louisville Louisville, exactly.
It's 12 hours to drive.

986
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:51,200
God.
The thrilling podcasting of

987
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,800
someone, Google map, Louisville
to New York City. 11 hours 38

988
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,500
minutes.
It has tolls you.

989
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:02,500
Take I-71 north you go through.
It's amazing.

990
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:03,900
What?
A boring fucking hit.

991
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:07,600
Cincinnati, Columbus.
Outskirts of Pittsburgh and then

992
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,300
New York.
Wow.

993
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:12,000
Yeah, that seems terrible.
I will say for as much as

994
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,500
Pennsylvania.
Kind of sucks.

995
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,500
Sorry.
It's really beautiful to drive

996
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:18,600
through.
Oh, okay.

997
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:19,500
Well that makes it.
A word.

998
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,200
Yeah, yeah, it is actually very
beautiful to drive through.

999
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,900
I didn't know Pittsburgh and
Philadelphia were so far away

1000
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:26,900
from each other.
They're the opposite side

1001
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,000
opposite sides and pensive.
I didn't know that.

1002
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,300
That's crazy.
We used to have to fly into

1003
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:34,800
Pittsburgh to then take a puddle
jumper to my grandparents house

1004
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:38,000
in New York because the airport
there was not big enough for a

1005
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,100
regular plane.
Wow, that's crazy.

1006
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,500
So you have to change into a
plane that you could probably

1007
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,200
just carry on your shoulders.
Yeah.

1008
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,400
Yep.
I've been in one of those

1009
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,100
before.
Yeah.

1010
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:56,100
I don't like a terrifying where
you're watching the rut.

1011
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:57,000
The Rudders.
Go to.

1012
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,700
I please keep going, please.
Yes.

1013
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,900
Can I bring covered everything I
wanted?

1014
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:10,800
I think we didn't say that.
Like, Sam ends up keeping his

1015
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,000
shirt on for the calendar as
well like to in solidarity with

1016
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,300
Artie and I love that idea too.
I love it and then for some

1017
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:23,100
reason they do this is the new
year at the end because it's

1018
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,100
January.
So they're like yeah yeah for an

1019
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,100
episode that mentions that it's
January like once.

1020
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:31,900
Yeah.
Then they really go hard on.

1021
00:56:31,908 --> 00:56:34,600
This is the new year because
it's not even like the first

1022
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,500
episode after the Christmas
episode is the second episode

1023
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,900
after the Christmas episode.
Yeah.

1024
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,600
Like when they just blatantly
say, like, the title of a book

1025
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,200
and the book didn't really have
to, like there was no reason to

1026
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,000
say the title of the book
because it's just some phrase.

1027
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,900
Anyways, I did literally like
this is the new year, though,

1028
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,500
but everybody knows I'm a sucker
for a group number.

1029
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,100
I thought was really cute.
They sound great.

1030
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:08,000
We were talking pre-record about
a great big world and the song

1031
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,300
they obviously modeled the
performance to look like a music

1032
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:14,500
video so that was kind of
interesting there.

1033
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:16,200
Just staring right at you into
the camera.

1034
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,900
Yeah.
There's like the mix of like the

1035
00:57:17,908 --> 00:57:20,000
being on stage and then they
just like staring into the

1036
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,300
camera on a studio.
Yeah, yeah.

1037
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,700
But it definitely just becomes a
song like all of a sudden, like,

1038
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:26,800
here's the song were singing.
I think she's literally is it's

1039
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,300
like, it's gonna be a great year
and it's like bub bub.

1040
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,100
They're just staring into your
eyeball.

1041
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,500
Okay, so when you're like okay
we're doing this thing.

1042
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,100
Why don't you see the ring light
reflected?

1043
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,400
There's like a filter over their
performance and makes it like

1044
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,300
gray, like it's like, who made
that decision?

1045
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,900
I know it wasn't eating into our
friend walking cedillo, who does

1046
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:55,800
know the Director of Photography
he would never, that's some

1047
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,200
post-production bullshit.
Yeah, yeah.

1048
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,700
Someone did that to him.
My name is just like great.

1049
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:06,000
I don't get why it's weird,
maybe to really highlight the

1050
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,600
black and white.
And I guess so glue Wiki told me

1051
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,900
this is the, it's like the sixth
song that they did a

1052
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,800
black-and-white costumes for in
the show, they just cheaper.

1053
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,700
I don't know, I guess it is a
lot easier to coordinate you

1054
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:25,200
know, 12 people's outfits when
you go black and white but like

1055
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,200
fix you, they do black and
white.

1056
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:29,300
Oh yeah, hmm.
Are there it is though.

1057
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,100
Vogue.
No, just kidding.

1058
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:34,400
I'm reading the wrong list.
Um, you holding on, Hello,

1059
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Goodbye.
Toxic one of us and fix you,

1060
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,700
they all wore black and white
garments has and they're all

1061
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:43,000
group members.
Hmm.

1062
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,000
I know.
I was like that.

1063
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Didn't think about that before?
But usually that's like convey

1064
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,700
the seriousness of it like you
holding on to fix you and one of

1065
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:55,100
us are like very serious.
Yeah.

1066
00:58:56,100 --> 00:59:00,400
Anyways if you like they also
could have done it like disco

1067
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,200
ball super sparkly for the new
year.

1068
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,000
That would have been cool.
I'll gold Sparkles.

1069
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,100
Yeah, I feel like that would
have been way more fun.

1070
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:08,800
Obviously, we should have
written Glee.

1071
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,800
I shouldn't have just missed
opportunities.

1072
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,800
What's like?
Sometimes they do these end

1073
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,600
numbers and, you know, it's just
like them having fun.

1074
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:20,300
Don't say together and then
other times they do it and they

1075
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:22,700
coordinate all their outfits and
like it must be difficult to

1076
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:27,200
coordinate all the outfits 100%.
But some of the choices that

1077
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,800
they made in my head in service
of it being easier to coordinate

1078
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,700
the outfits are like when they
put them all in flannel or

1079
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:37,200
something.
Yeah.

1080
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,300
Which was a Joyce, putting them
all in black and white is a

1081
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:45,800
choice, you know?
So, shout out to the, the

1082
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,200
costumers of Glee, though, I
know they really held It down.

1083
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,100
So I won't talk too much shit
against them.

1084
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,600
No, we can't all the things that
we hate.

1085
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,200
We cannot hate the costume.
You want everything on them

1086
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:57,900
constant MVPs.
Yes.

1087
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,300
And no other black and white
outfits were super cute.

1088
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:02,300
They were adorable and all very
different.

1089
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,000
Yes.
They were trying to think if

1090
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,400
anyone really stood out unique
stood out for me because she had

1091
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,700
like like hi pencil skirt look
and it was like yeah that was

1092
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:13,700
cute.
It's cute.

1093
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,200
Especially because I can't
imagine being encased in a

1094
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,100
pencil skirt you know?
It's okay all unique had to do

1095
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:24,200
is Park good Mark.
I think about that every time

1096
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,400
they do a group number and Mark
I'm like who's the parking Park?

1097
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:32,000
Yeah it's a great line Park in
part is it's so good.

1098
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:35,500
It was a cute number, I'm glad.
Yeah.

1099
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:38,700
Okay.
Do we do we just go to the Kevin

1100
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:40,800
McHale.
Do we have any final thoughts?

1101
01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:42,200
I think we gotta go to the Kevin
McHale.

1102
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:48,300
He had a plot line, he had a
whole last poem as plotline He

1103
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,300
didn't have a solo though.
He should have had a solo.

1104
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:52,700
It's a four-hole, a spot line
but no solo.

1105
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:56,500
Yeah I feel like a for I'm
looking at the song list again I

1106
01:00:56,500 --> 01:01:01,300
feel like he could have he could
have had a song similar to Turin

1107
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:04,400
where he's like thinking about
like what he wants to do and

1108
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,400
like our he could have also sung
torn maybe they could have split

1109
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,900
it.
I think that would model instead

1110
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:13,500
of Rachel splitting it with
herself that would have been

1111
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:16,500
cool because they have done that
before were two characters

1112
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,000
across different.
Let's sing the same song which I

1113
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,200
think is really cool.
Yeah.

1114
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:23,100
I like on, they do that and that
would have been better and I

1115
01:01:23,107 --> 01:01:25,300
just love to hear Kevin saying
you too.

1116
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,800
Duh.
Kevin you're always invited onto

1117
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,400
this podcast ways.
Oh my God, that would be a dream

1118
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,100
come true.
I don't know if I could be on

1119
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:35,000
that one I might not to like
calm down.

1120
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:40,200
Yep we can't pay you but like we
can pay you in our never-ending

1121
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,400
love and support.
We can promise not to say bad

1122
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,400
things.
At that helps with your PR team

1123
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,200
or At least cut them.
We couldn't promise it for

1124
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,000
certain other great actors.
Who wanted to be a magician.

1125
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:58,100
Very true to be fair.
It wasn't his fault.

1126
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:02,000
It was the great Riders fault
but it was objectively not good.

1127
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,500
Anyways yeah 4 out of 5 MX go
pain down.

1128
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,500
Yes.
But there was no pain, they

1129
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:13,000
didn't interact.
Yeah, to get there was nothing.

1130
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:21,600
No clean an exam.
If you had never seen Glee

1131
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,500
before in, this was your
episode, you would not know

1132
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:25,900
those characters.
Knew each other have no idea.

1133
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,100
Oh my God, that's depressing.
Yeah.

1134
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:31,300
You say it like that?
I'm like, wow, that makes me

1135
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:33,500
sad.
Also wouldn't know that the New

1136
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,800
York story line connected to the
Ohio storyline.

1137
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,000
No, not at all.
So it was an episode where they

1138
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,600
were very disparate and what we
don't even know if Sam and

1139
01:02:40,607 --> 01:02:42,200
Brittany are together in this
episode either.

1140
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,100
So it's true.
When couples are ditching you

1141
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:47,400
thing is Jacob Marley.
Yeah really really took over.

1142
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:52,900
Oh do you have a favorite song?
Besides hot and her?

1143
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:58,100
No got it so bad.
Um I think I'm going to have to

1144
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:01,800
go with love song is my favorite
song.

1145
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:04,500
Yeah I think this is the new
year was a close.

1146
01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,100
Second I'm gonna go I'm gonna go
with.

1147
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:09,600
This is the New Year.
Mmm, that's really good.

1148
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,900
It was my favorite performance
for sure.

1149
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,400
Like, it's just cute.
I just run around.

1150
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,600
It's very cute.
Being being besties, it would be

1151
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,500
a fascist.
Yeah there's this piece in the

1152
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:25,900
Glee Club for Once In Our
Lifetime.

1153
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:28,500
I'm sure.
Hmm.

1154
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:31,400
Do you have any memorable lines
that we have not covered?

1155
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,900
Hmm.
I don't I didn't write any down.

1156
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:36,400
I already mentioned the brainy
one.

1157
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,900
Yeah.
We're she's like MIT and the

1158
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:40,300
Charles Barkley's house.
Yeah.

1159
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,100
That was probably the one.
I left out loud.

1160
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:46,500
It and then what is your the
thing you like?

1161
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,900
Hmm.
Hmm, let's see.

1162
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,100
Um, I think that thing I liked
was Jake singing.

1163
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,800
Let me love you.
I do.

1164
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:59,300
That was really nice made sense
with the plot beautifully done

1165
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,900
really well acted.
I did not like the like just sit

1166
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:05,600
and sing Solo in front of the
Glee Club, kind of numbers, but

1167
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,300
I actually really enjoyed this
one.

1168
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:10,800
It was nice to see a character.
Get that thing in front of the

1169
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,300
Glee Club so loud.
The doesn't normally get them.

1170
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,500
That is true.
Yeah, get to highlight The

1171
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:16,300
Voice.
Yes.

1172
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:17,400
And not just the dancing shake
up.

1173
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,200
Our Has a great voice.
Exactly.

1174
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,400
And he doesn't get a lot of
chances to like show it off.

1175
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:30,200
That thing I liked was despite
rewind.

1176
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:36,300
It was Blaine and Sam having a
conversation around, you know

1177
01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:39,900
school and Sam being a good
person.

1178
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:44,900
Just that interaction of them
like one dude, trying to say

1179
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:48,300
nice things to another do
without Like having to like

1180
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,200
punch your shoulder or be really
about it just having like a deep

1181
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:57,800
conversation for them heartfelt,
conversation about their good

1182
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,900
qualities, that were not tied to
sports.

1183
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:06,300
Yes, or getting laid or just
like your intellect, or your

1184
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:09,400
goodness or your kindness of the
things like he did for people.

1185
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,500
So true like, positive
masculinity, positive,

1186
01:05:12,500 --> 01:05:15,400
masculine, yes.
So rarely seen in the wild.

1187
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,100
I'm so glad you pointed that out
because that's So true and they,

1188
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:21,200
like, hugged at the end.
I was like, very, very

1189
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,800
heartfelt.
So I just ignore what comes

1190
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,100
later exactly.
Like, if we could just isolate

1191
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:29,200
this episode, like I was, I was
just thinking, like, I actually

1192
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,300
really liked the newbies in this
episode to like, they were fun.

1193
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:34,900
They were fun.
I was great.

1194
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:38,700
I'm just gonna, and I would go
in and watching this episode.

1195
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:42,900
I was like, oh, the fucking like
calendar episode, but like, I

1196
01:05:42,908 --> 01:05:46,500
think I liked it.
Yeah, that's the kind of

1197
01:05:46,508 --> 01:05:47,400
interactions.
I want to.

1198
01:05:47,500 --> 01:05:51,100
Here.
Yeah had some whole a lot of

1199
01:05:51,107 --> 01:05:55,200
wholesome moments and funny
moments some that were not so

1200
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:00,000
great but as a whole it could
have gone deeper but that's all

1201
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,400
Glee episode than kind of like
got a little farther little more

1202
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,500
nuanced but yes, which could
also turn it into a shitshow.

1203
01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:09,900
So true may be careful what we
wish for them.

1204
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000
That's also true.
They walk a line they walk.

1205
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,900
I do wish the never never did
walk.

1206
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,400
Oh you're right.
Johnny.

1207
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,200
I do wish the music had been a
little better, though.

1208
01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:23,300
I can't forgive Hot in Herre
centerfold.

1209
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:25,000
Like, that's just a crime
against humanity.

1210
01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:30,300
It's crying my opinion.
Top 10, worst Glee songs, it

1211
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,100
could be on this is
disrespectful to Nelly.

1212
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,300
So you do for that.
Just really is often

1213
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:40,300
disrespected anyway in hip-hop.
So like terms to do this to him

1214
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,700
like remember after Adam and the
apples.

1215
01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:46,500
Yes.
And then you have like ride with

1216
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:49,000
me in the first.
Season and then you have this.

1217
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,100
And it's like, what the fuck?
How far are you falling now?

1218
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:59,600
That's terrible here, I started.
And on a loan of what we're

1219
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,300
trying to do, is lift Nellie us,
right?

1220
01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:04,400
I do love Nelly.
He's great.

1221
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,200
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1222
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,100
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1223
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,900
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1224
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:16,900
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1225
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:20,900
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1226
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:25,600
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1227
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:30,600
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1228
01:07:30,900 --> 01:07:33,900
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1229
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:35,300
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1230
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:37,200
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1231
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,300
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1232
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:44,300
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1233
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:47,400
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1235
01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:53,400
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1236
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,000
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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,400
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1239
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1240
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:07,300
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