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Hello, and welcome back to Glee
on the Rocks.

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I am F.
I'm Emily.

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And I'm Mandy.
I'm free pair of shit.

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That's what I was gonna say.
Do we want to take to that?

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No, it's too late.
Instead.

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What we can we can fix good and
Post-its.

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Every time we're doing it live,
do it live.

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Anyway, anyway, all right.
Anyway, and this is episode

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episode 16 of the second season.
Sure, none of you.

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None of you know what this
episode is.

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We're talking about original
song.

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It's really filler.
I think.

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Really feel like nothing
happens.

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Yeah, and it's Sheriff soon and
I have no idea what we're going

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to talk about.
There weren't any like, standout

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scenes in it.
Yeah, Rachel adding original

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songs for 47 minutes.
Well, actually, I take it back.

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There is one standout saying.
I actually really like, Mercedes

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song, was a song was good.
Yeah.

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That rip piano really kicks.
It off.

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Love that piano.
Wish we'd see more of that state

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board.
And so the kids say right?

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I stand that's the thing.
I'm sure pretty sure that is a

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fucking keyboard.
I don't like it.

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We can get into cock-blocking
pianos just in a second, but

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giving a quick rundown of the
episode, if you're not familiar

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with it.
I don't know why you're here,

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but just for the sake of you
know, normalcy, let's do it.

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So original song is the 16th
episode of the Second season and

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premiered on March 15th. 2011
was critically acclaimed, no

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idea why, but when it was
initially aired, it had like a

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little over 11 million people
watching and about a 4.2

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rating/share.
Not bad, but it did decline

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slightly from sexy, which I
don't.

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But okay, the let's give a quick
rundown on summary here,

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preparations for Place the new
directions, with only a short

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amount of time to decide upon
their setlist to thrash.

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Their competition, their set
list with original songs and are

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ready to set.
Go to perform them at regionals.

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Oh, yeah bird dies and there's
something else that happens with

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Layton.
Kurt code was not surprisingly

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written by Ryan Murphy and
directed by Bradley puker.

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I feel like the words regionals
and original song no longer

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Main.
Anything to me right now?

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Yeah, so that a lot of those a
lot of original song and most

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all in one win short.
Yeah boy.

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Yeah it was.
So, I mean, we joked about how

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we would do this this episode,
but I'm just going to, I'm just

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going to say, we're starting off
with Rachel or even start off

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with.
It's what she would want.

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It was what she would want.
So the original songs, let's

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start the actual original songs.
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I mean, obviously some are
written to be terrible and a

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couple of them are written to be
Quote, unquote, good, so only

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child trouty mouth and in the
middle.

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So they go in ascending order
from bad to questionable is only

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child.
Try to mouth big-ass heart.

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He'll to the no and get it.
Right.

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Am I wrong?
Or is that just me?

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Loser, Like Me, Right?
Lose your life.

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Me at the very top of the less
bad.

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I actually don't like me.
I'm not gonna lie.

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I didn't hear that.
But yes.

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I like loser, like me as far as
I can, like, any of the original

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songs, but obviously, some of
these are meant to be terrible

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and some of them are meant to be
not terrible.

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So yeah, because at the end of
the day, it's not actually kids

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that, you know, yeah.
Protease obviously is the

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standout because it's hilarious.
If it's really funny.

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I, it's the only one that I like
lack that as I watched.

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It was like, meant to be funny.
Yeah, yeah.

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And honestly big-ass heart as
kind of a this kind of a good

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beat there that if people like a
good tune.

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Like it's a little country
rockabilly like it's kind of

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good.
Something like there's that's

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the other thing that I think is
interesting there, like we're

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going to do original song and
it's like, cool.

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So you're going to write words
and do any of you have any

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composition, ability, whatsoever
to all those, right words, but

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also really like sounds and
Beads and, and notes.

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And I don't know music.
And if that's not clear yet

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rhyming, dictionaries,
obviously, that's all they

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needed.
But, yeah, rhyming dictionaries

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hit songs.
That's it.

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That's that's I'm pretty sure
how it works.

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Nobody, that works in the music
industry needs to correct me on

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that.
Because why would I cut?

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How could we possibly be rough?
We finally, I think example,

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here of we're wrong and we don't
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You're just going to accept it.
I think right now.

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Writing music is basically just
turning on a Mac and seeing

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whatever GarageBand pumps out,
right?

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I think that is how the children
do it these days.

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Yes, you like that's basically
the top 40 right now.

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I could be wrong.
No, no, you're not.

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I've decided now.
And again, we're no longer

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taking comments to tell us when
we're right now with, like, what

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we say is just fact that this
will only accept comments when

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we're obviously, right?
Yeah.

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And by all means, then you may
comment and say how, right?

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We are.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean a rhyming
dictionary is not going to

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create a song.
It's going to create bad

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teenage, poetry of which some of
this is and that's what we got.

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We got ya, I just, you know.
The idea that anyone would

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seriously go.
Okay.

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Again, we need honestly, we need
someone who was in a glee club

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or School choir to show up and
be like you can or cannot write

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original music for competitions
because I have no fucking idea.

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But would you ever write your
own music a week before the

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competition?
And think that you stood a

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chance because that's what
drives you crazy about this

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original song crap.
You Rachel Berry like it's not

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that they're doing it.
It's that they're doing it a

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week before and thinking and one
that they win with like well and

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they also win because candles
sucks and the other sing about

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Jesus to try and win so the
competition.

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But Yeah, it's yeah, I feel like
it's I feel like it's very

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appropriate for Rachel Berry or
like the like the her hubris

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just be like, you know what?
I think, I think I think I can

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totally write a song a week
before competition and it'd be

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an amazing hit song.
I'm going to she has some some

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frustrations because she's like,
I have no inspiration for how to

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write a song in which case is
like the, why did you want to do

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this?
Like she still deep down things.

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She can.
It's like so when you like would

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you ever do this?
It's like me.

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No, Rachel Berry 100%.
That's what was totally.

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That was totally acting, you
know, true to her.

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Character.
You and everyone else in the

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Glee Club is like yeah, we're
totally going to put our own

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high school careers on the line.
For this because the one song

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that we've been rehearsing is no
longer allowed because we didn't

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plan any backups.
And singing eggs in one basket

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because she was a dick and he
can't just, you know, hey, let's

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have some backup material having
on flake high school, students.

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Maybe that impulsive an
overconfident But the teacher

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wouldn't be yes, so I would
hope.

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Yeah.
Exactly exactly, where talked

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about you.
So and That's always how our

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comments on shoot and or just
with.

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Yeah, it's is a long Deep - I
was just like, why why do you

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do?
Why do you do the things that

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you do?
The other side of Rachel is that

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she's doing half of this for
Finn.

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Still.
Instead of being her own badass

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self and doing it to graduate
high school and go to college or

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nyada or New York or whatever
the fuck she wants to do with

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her life.
But oh no, it's Finn blob of a

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person.
And now I mean in like a blob of

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a person it's he can it's like
he can retain he's like a

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receptacle, for whatever,
whatever thoughts, our emotions.

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He needs to have at that time or
whatever he needs to do.

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Blob of a person.
I quite literally, he's just,

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he's very amorphous.
He could his changes as the

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fucking plot needs.
Yeah.

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Ian Quinn both have that problem
of.

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Anyway, the wind blows is what
their their characters are there

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defined by the plot needs not by
a character Arc.

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Which is so frustrating, because
in this one, if we're, if we're

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going from Rachel to fin, the
next piece of the puzzle, is

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Quinn, because that's our white
blob.

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Yeah, and our white sandwich,
all she wants.

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Well, all she wants now,
according to this episode is to

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be prom queen and to be prom
queen.

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She needs fin for some reason
and to get Finn.

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She needs Rachel for some
reason.

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Finn likes Rachel and she can't
just fuck off.

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So, she pretends to be Rachel's
friend because Rachel is

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apparently an idiot and will
believe that Also, I think I

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think we'll know.
We'll see more and more going

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forward that Murphy and the
other writers, just don't

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particularly like Quinn as a
character and probably don't

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like Dianna Agron either.
I think that is definitely and I

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think it it is apparent in the
line when she's monologuing to

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herself.
You're smart and pretty and

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relatively sane.
For a girl.

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I was like, I didn't remember
this line occurring and I was

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like relatively sane for a girl
and that line is actually one of

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the notes I made with the.
What the fuck decided.

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Yeah.
I was like, oh fuck you damn.

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Another one of those, where he
feel like how we're trying to

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be?
We're trying to be funny.

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Yeah.
No, that's just, that's not

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funny.
Yeah, it's just Fucked up as

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what that is, and her.
Her drive to be All-American.

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High school, prom.
Queen is so dull after her ups

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and downs of the school year, it
is.

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And it's kind of been so much
more interesting.

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And I mean, it's like, she had,
she's incredibly smart.

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She ends up going to yell
spoilers.

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She's got a lot about her.
That is, that is absolutely very

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interesting.
But they make it the most blah.

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They give her the most boring, a
storyline like you point out

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where she's like, she went
through this phone face.

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She had a child, she decides, I
want to go back and be prom

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queen.
It's like, uh, Really?

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That's, that's what you want to
do.

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And that's all they're going to
have.

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That's all they're gonna have
your character.

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Do.
Yeah, and she keeps her like,

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what her mom's Tiara or wherever
the fuck that is in the only

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closet, like, does anybody?
I mean, yeah, you know, maybe

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there are people out there who
do that.

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But to me, that always felt like
a Trope immediate rope of the

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girl who keeps a tiara in her
closet.

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Just waiting for prom.
She's a caricature of the John

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hughes's, princess like who,
which is another itself, its own

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character.
Like, yeah, and it's another

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self.
So like they took that and

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they're like, what if we took
that whole princess thing and

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like it worse it made it like
more.

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And we're going to add some,
like, dark comedy, but like, you

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didn't you just horse.
This is that I would have

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enjoyed Quinn's character a lot
in other circumstances.

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I think by circumstances.
I mean not Ryan writing like a

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teenage show that has like teen
pregnancy and then kind of like

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fucked up 17 year old who really
wants.

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Success in life.
But has also dealt with

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pregnancy.
And giving a kid up already is

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not an uninteresting story if
it's done well, and no agreed.

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It's like they're helpful to
their also.

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If they just kept up the
Mercedes Quinn friendship.

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Yes, because I think I would
have enjoyed that a lot.

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Yeah.
I mean, there are a lot of

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things that they could have done
done with Quinn, and they were

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just And yeah, and I don't know
if it's just because they found

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they didn't really like the
character as much as they

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thought they did.
After like they got through,

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whether it was like the pilot,
the pilot or like the first

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season or okay, Quinn isn't
really the foil to Rachel that

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we wanted.
If it was Diana that they were

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like, we don't want to work with
her for reasons, whatever they

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may be and or she's like, I
don't want to work here for

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reasons, whatever they may be.
But Yeah, it's just it it's sort

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of sad to realize that there is
a hole.

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There's a whole character that
could have been really good.

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Could have had a lot had a lot
to work with and then just like

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Tiara and a velvet case that
makes sense or just gotta lean

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on that.
Yeah.

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Also could have been interesting
for her to keep that kid and

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have to go through high school
with a baby.

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Totally.
I mean, and not as quinces of

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Your Action.
Yeah.

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And also discussing like what it
must be like for how hard it

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could be for, you know, single
mothers and single mothers are

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16.
Yeah.

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Yep.
I should have contacted us about

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all of this.
No, I'm just really sad.

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We didn't get the TV.
I was just a story I because I

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would take it and stick form to
of Mercedes and Quinn raising a

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baby together.
Yeah.

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Yeah, that would have been fun.
I mean, that would have been

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really interesting.
Because they're there with their

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personality types.
Okay.

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So the Glee reboot is basically
when and Mercedes, raising we go

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back, even though I hate reboots
and will spend an entire mini

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episode yelling about why this
current Nostalgia blast is the

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worst thing that's happening to
Media.

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I'll take, I'll take a Mercedes
Quinn.

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Sometimes I say, sometimes
reboots are useful and nice.

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And I think this would, this
would be where this Falls.

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Yes.
Sometimes they're not but this

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one I think would be one of the
few exceptions.

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Yeah, just to just to watch it
just to be like look it could

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have been good.
Uh-huh.

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We suffered so much.
Speaking of Mercedes.

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He'll to the no that was pretty
high in Europe on your list,

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right?
Yeah, well, because that's it

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comes in.
The present.

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Fall comes kind of in the
middle.

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It's after big-ass hard.
So it, you know, it's after

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yeah.
Now charts after that one.

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That makes sense.
It's code.

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It's fun.
It's more of a complete song.

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What I serve, you know that but
it's fun.

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It's fine.
Well, and then I get in one of

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the notes I have here.
Is Schuster's saying all good

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songs?
Come from a point of personal

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pain.
I'm like do they do?

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Because I have a lot of songs
that I like, that are not

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necessarily always about
personal pain.

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Some are, I think it's more just
like you have some songs that

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are about well songs that are
about personal experience with

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to the necessarily mean pain.
And I just feel like that's

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strange the way he says that.
But then again I also just it's

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just very strange.
Life is pain.

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I miss anybody.
Who tells you differently is

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lying to.
Selling something.

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Exactly.
Yeah, I mean, her, her song is

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much more like everyday insults
microagressions, which is kind

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of nice that it's not so huge
but not, yes, you know.

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She's not talking about like the
tragedy and the pain of being an

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African-American woman.
And there's a little Ohio town

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because that would be a
depressing song shortly.

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Yeah, I mean, it would be a very
appropriate accurate.

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You know, there's a lot there
for her to sing personal pain

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from exactly sort of feel like
maybe she doesn't want to sing

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about personal pain.
Maybe she's like, I bitch I deal

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with that regular everyday life.
I won't sing a song about like

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something else, or even if even
if she was just like, I want to

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sing a happy song anyway.
Hey basically, times juice is

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anything.
I just get angry and make note

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of it.
Later.

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A little chart.
Yes.

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Did Issue on screen?
Yes, just happy.

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You know, it's a the complain
about it.

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Yes.
It's like a school notebook of

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hash marks that looks like
something from the movie Seven,

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where when someone discovers us,
like 30 years from now.

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They're just going to think
you're psychotic.

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Why is fluctuate like the wall?
What happened here?

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What occurred here?
There is not enough sage in the

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world to cleanse this room to
cleanse this room.

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It's past is clean.
That was that was creepy.

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All right.
All right, so then we've got I

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don't know what else really
happened.

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This episode nothing.
Well, they went to Regionals.

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Uh-huh and they won and then
they go on to finals.

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Is it final physical National
National star finals, only

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semis.
The Grand Slam Tournament the

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Super Bowl, but if they're going
to the Super Bowl now it going

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to To the World Cup.
Honestly, singing Eurovision.

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Actually, that's not even the
Eurovision of mouth sounds, but

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also, but also Eurovision feels
like a large Glee Club present.

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Yeah, since I said that, I was
like, that's not actually that

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that off base.
No, it's not.

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Well, that wrong.
Honestly, this explains so much

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if we could just like explaining
Pinky.

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Your vision, think a large Glee
Club presentation, but all of

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the schools are countries back
to goalie.

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I guess some I guess a bird
dies.

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It sounds like the beginning of
an old poem like a bird dies, a

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boy sits bedazzled, finding
freedom, but also the okay,

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things happen before this later
is there is lead up.

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Okay, so the yes, yes.
I feel like we need to set the

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stage to such an auspicious.
That's fair.

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My mentis important tangental.
I don't know.

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It's running out of words.
Hit us with the his with the

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scene setting.
Well, the scene setting is that

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that Blaine opens the episode by
making a fucking mess of Dalton.

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Oh, yes.
People to watch.

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I'm like who was cleaning that
up.

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You didn't go back in the room,
you know.

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Every time I watch that scene,
which used to be a lot more than

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it is.
Now, let's not not pretend, but

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like, just throwing somebody's
paperwork.

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It's probably not even his
homework.

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Somebody's paperwork some
freshman probably just because

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he's 17.
All over the fucking floor.

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Singing something.
And point hurt is just just

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really not feeling it this time.
And I think we need to really go

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on the emotional Journey with
Kurt.

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In context of the previous
episode because this is Glee and

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these episodes really follow one
another with emotional context.

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Don't they?
Always one episode really breeds

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off the next.
I mean, that's how they that's

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how they work.
Is that, you know, you have to

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have seen the previous episode
and the emotional through life

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character because you don't,
you're gonna have like, well

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that and he that jobs obviously
built on top of each other.

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That's always very, it's very
ugly.

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Yeah.
So so Kurt is reeling from his

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very awkward conversation with
his dad.

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And also with Blaine who seems
to have forgotten that he told

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birth that he wants to have sex
with his kid.

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Like what happened?
I bet, I have no arguments

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there.
I feel like that's what happened

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in the last episode.
I mean, I wasn't here to talk

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about it.
But I feel like that's what

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happened to you.
Do you need a moment to kind of

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fun?
I'm like, my piece.

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Okay?
Okay.

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Okay.
Just putting it in the context

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of what happened in the previous
episode.

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And now we're back to this one
where apparently none of that.

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Is going to be talked about.
So, Kurt is is not happy about

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all of Blaine's solos, which due
to his credit are pretty fucking

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numerous.
Especially when the Warblers are

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supposed to be a group and not,
they're not big on the actual

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Ensemble.
It really in the Pips really is

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blade in the Pips and that
sucks.

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And he, at least at least heard
is willing to say it out loud

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because I, I would just Do in my
own hatred forever.

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And never say anything.
So I guess props to Kurt for

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speaking up.
Yeah.

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Yeah, so then wait, like I like
his season to confidence a

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little bit better than how it
exhibited itself in season one.

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Yes.
I don't like, and I feel like in

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season 1, he actually, he wasn't
confident.

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He, it's almost like fake it, to
make it kind of confident.

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So occasionally came out as
being a dick.

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Yeah.
Because he was try, he was

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dealing with his own pain and
trying to be kind of that whole

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like, you got this, you got
this, just like, keep your head

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up and fine.
It's fine.

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And sometimes that came out,
like, lashing up.

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And now, I think he's starting
to feel actually confident,

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which ends up being calling shit
out.

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Weapons is like, hey, I'm
basically replacing one Rachel

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for a different Rachel and it's
like we're not, you're not

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nasty, not a group like about
you.

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Maybe you think that blank
because like you're the one

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leading up for Betty.
But yeah and to well we'll get

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that.
So it's 41.

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Chronologically Pavarotti dies.
Sweet bird.

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Me too.
What kind of art is Pavarotti

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canary?
Canaries live for like a decade

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Pavarotti only lived a year.
What did you do to that?

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Bird.
Kurt poverty died.

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So claim could live.
He's like that, that bottom

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packet, the time I first watched
the episode.

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Yeah.
I was like this bird should not

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have had a one year lifespan.
We okay.

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We have done actually know that
he was only a year old thinking

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because they showed the
gravestone.

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Yes, but but we don't know that
that's accurate.

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That's just what.
Kurt Put down because that's how

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long he had him.
Okay, it's tradition to it.

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Did they say like it's tradition
to pass the bird around to the

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new person.
So maybe he had been passed

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around.
That sounds gross.

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Maybe he had been other people's
Birds.

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I'm just trying to make this
better.

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Okay.
Yeah.

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I was just saying I don't think
Kurt is a bird murderer.

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Yeah.
I think the read you're making I

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will allow it.
More at 11.

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But I'm still gonna say.
Kurt should probably not own

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Birds.
No, he really shouldn't.

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You shouldn't.
Like it was that bird getting

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food with was that getting
awfully small?

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Like was there are flow under
that Burberry ask cover or yeah.

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Yeah, I did.
He let him out at night and he

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got eaten by Ike.
I don't know what I was

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happening there.
But there no sunlight in the

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basement room at Burt Hummel
house.

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I don't know.
Oh my God, what if, what if I

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know never mind, I'm just
missing one is Kurt, was gonna

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go is gonna go, all Cruella de
Vil so that he could have like,

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a jacket made of can I know?
But God or someone?

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It just got dark.
I'm sorry.

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I'm actually mean that.
I know you even do that.

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You're a lovely gentle soul, but
in my mind, I can only pump so

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For key path.
Literally free him please.

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Yeah, waited.
So have path goes off to the

457
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:51,500
great, pull mine in the sky and
very dramatically Kurt bursts

458
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:55,500
into the warbler Council and
full Victorian mourning,

459
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:03,400
classic.
And sings Blackbird.

460
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:10,300
Because, you know, got that
Beatles catalog - yeah, you've

461
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:16,200
got it, use it for me.
I would just like, to give it up

462
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,500
for Darren.
Criss has faced Journey.

463
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:21,500
That was an impressive face
journey.

464
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:25,300
I don't know what the scene
directions really were.

465
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,600
I don't know what the directors
directions really were.

466
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,900
I don't know what the takes
really work, because we're never

467
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:37,500
going to fucking know. but,
We've seen the scene.

468
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,300
We've seen the gifts.
We've seen the gifts of the

469
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:44,600
gifts.
We've seen the super-slow-mo and

470
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,300
the When Tumblr went from like
the 250 sighs gifts to the 500

471
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:51,000
size gifts and we were all like,
oh shit.

472
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,300
We have to redo them all over
again.

473
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:56,200
Then we saw how big they we've
seen this in every possible.

474
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,100
Iteration have to explain his
face in this scene.

475
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:07,700
Do we know we do not sow?
Yes, this is the moment.

476
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,600
When?
Blaine.

477
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:17,100
Realizes that he has capital F
feelings for Kurt.

478
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,600
Now why it happens here?
I don't know.

479
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,100
It's never really made sense to
me.

480
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:29,300
Why watching this kids.
Sing a song about a dead bird,

481
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:32,900
does it?
But I think, I think it's in

482
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,000
part because the writers were
like, we need to hurry this up

483
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:40,100
because everybody likes this
couple and Tick-Tock it's time.

484
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,800
And this was the only way to do
it.

485
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,500
But I accept it.
I take it and I accept it.

486
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:55,300
I like the I like the whole
fandom explanation of like

487
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:57,400
playing just has a thing for
Birds.

488
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,500
We can't we can't compare with
Blaine in fur coats and that's

489
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,900
great.
But that's just going to have to

490
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:12,500
be so that that patreon will get
but there's just a whole there's

491
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:16,500
a lot and I just I'm amused
unendingly that.

492
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,900
Yeah.
What And that's basically what

493
00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:23,100
what Phantom decided, you know,
what, you know, makes sense.

494
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,900
Blaine Blaine has a turn-on
about birds and slightly in

495
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,400
likes Birds.
I don't know.

496
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,100
How did you feel about the
scene?

497
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,500
How did, how did his Misty Eyes
and his his look of astonishment

498
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,400
coupled with realization coupled
with holy shit.

499
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,800
That's the most perfect person
I've ever seen in my life, even

500
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,100
though I've known him for a
year.

501
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,000
Coupled with all of the other
meta that we've read over the

502
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,100
last 8 years of the show.
Mandy, do you have thoughts?

503
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,800
I'm trying to remember how I
reacted the first time I saw it.

504
00:32:56,808 --> 00:33:00,700
I mean, obviously had a reaction
because my reaction was, hey, I

505
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:03,400
just watched this episode.
I better make mad watch this

506
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,700
show right now and basically how
that went.

507
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,800
But I don't, I don't know.
Like I think it was really well

508
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,700
done and it was definitely
magical in a way that not a lot

509
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,300
of things.
I watched on TV felt like at the

510
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,200
time, right?
Mostly because it was gay and

511
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,900
actually not as it didn't feel
like a side plot.

512
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,700
Yeah, it felt like actually a
story that this TV show was

513
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,900
going to do something with which
you know at the time I was

514
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:37,600
giving Glee a lot of credit
still.

515
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,100
I mean, I guess I do get credit
for the fact that clay.

516
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:46,200
Was a storyline they did stuff
with but still are well for a

517
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:46,900
while.
Yeah.

518
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,500
That's fair.
The, I mean, it had built up

519
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,000
some build up for this.
I mean, not not at all.

520
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:59,300
I mean, so we've watched these
episodes pretty quickly, All

521
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,900
Things Considered, man.
I just like it because there was

522
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:10,199
a lengthy break, but we watch
them. and, Yeah.

523
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:19,900
They don't have a long.
Because we don't see their

524
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:25,500
day-to-day lives at Dalton and
like doing homework and doing

525
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,100
extracurricular activities, not
described in NC-17 pick and you

526
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:37,199
know, like just day-to-day
things and we don't see them in

527
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,000
a glee club.
Just hanging out in the

528
00:34:39,007 --> 00:34:41,199
background.
You don't really actually get

529
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:45,199
much of a lead up to them
entering.

530
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,000
Agent ship, and that's going to
be a problem later.

531
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,300
If you actually don't see them
dating that much.

532
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,800
Yeah, and it, it does kind of
suck like it.

533
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:57,300
I don't we get the joy of
looking back now and we get to

534
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:00,100
complain of like there's not
that much clean and we want more

535
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:04,200
and Baba.
But like, at the time it was her

536
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:10,100
a, there's a positive gay couple
on screen and it's wonderful and

537
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:14,300
they're dating and they're happy
asterisks for now.

538
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,700
And it's lovely, but if you
really look at the time, spent

539
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:22,300
there's not a ton of lead up to
this moment of realization.

540
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:27,900
You don't get the like Longing
between them.

541
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,800
Yeah, I'm really don't ya?
You don't you don't see them

542
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,600
together outside of these, like,
warbler councils, and that was

543
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,900
something I missed all over
again this time.

544
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,800
Of seeing Blaine in this moment
was like I would have liked to

545
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:53,100
have seen a longer streak of
him. realizing things of, like,

546
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,500
Yeah, of cukor is isn't an all I
got in and I came without saying

547
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:11,600
this in defense of the show.
No, breathing.

548
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:17,400
We don't get that.
For other couples either.

549
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:22,000
I know there's this is the one I
like I'm get I honestly.

550
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,700
What do you like do you like
this?

551
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:29,300
Couple?
This is the only thing I care

552
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:35,400
about, you know, it's like I
it's a continual problem for the

553
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:41,800
show, which is The they'll show
potentially some lead up in the

554
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,800
sense of.
Yeah, that like will they won't

555
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,200
they for a little bit even
though it's not really will they

556
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:53,900
won't pay because yeah, and then
it's relationship and then it's

557
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,400
we're talking or basically doing
a high school walk and talk and

558
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,800
then it's cut to drama, cut to
whatever but you don't really

559
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,900
see like What do what do you
think?

560
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:08,100
I'm Rachel.
Do on our dates?

561
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,300
Yeah, that's true.
What do they talk about?

562
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,000
Yeah.
Well they talk about what does

563
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,700
solves?
Yeah, what is Quinn talk about

564
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:20,700
within?
And it says that it's just a

565
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,900
unfortunate problem of the of
the show is just that they have

566
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:33,200
this obsession with putting all
of their characters in romantic

567
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,600
relationships, and absolutely no
idea how to write one.

568
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:43,100
Yeah, yeah, you're not.
I also have a whole that whole

569
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:46,800
side ramp for like if you put,
if you're only here, only means

570
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,900
her drama is putting somebody in
and out of a taking somebody in

571
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:53,300
and out of a relationship.
Like unplugging a what, like

572
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:54,800
from something from a wall
socket.

573
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,300
Yeah.
Anyway, I would have liked my I

574
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,300
say all this to say I would have
I agree.

575
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:11,300
I would have enjoyed being able
to see more from The the

576
00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:16,800
beginning relationship Morris.
It's that early days stuff.

577
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,400
That's so fun to watch with two
actors that do it.

578
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:27,600
Well because we have the, we
have the foresight or the

579
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:35,500
hindsight, both pint at whatever
of we know how we have site.

580
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,700
Well, I don't know.
Our glasses are all pretty

581
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:41,000
thick.
Let's be honest, and Please

582
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:47,900
Captain are some pretty big a
standards here, blind of knowing

583
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,200
What Becomes of their
relationship in terms of screen

584
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,300
time and dialogue and what you
actually see of it.

585
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,500
So, it's you, you think, oh,
this is great.

586
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:07,800
We're going to get so much more
and then we don't.

587
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:12,000
So in what?
Act you think wow, if we had

588
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,300
gotten the early days of a young
romance with these guys, if

589
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,100
maybe would have tempered, the
to supply me to speak for myself

590
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:25,800
here and both of you because I
know you the disappointment of

591
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,300
what comes in Seasons, five in
season five and I can't speak

592
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:36,500
for season 6, because I have a
book and watched it and I guess

593
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:40,200
I'm gonna have to eventually
that's a problem for future.

594
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,000
That's future.
Emily's problem along with so

595
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,800
many things.
So yeah, it's just that like, oh

596
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,400
if if we had seen their dates
and their conversations about

597
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,400
football vs.
Sondheim and doing their

598
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,400
homework together of like a 45
second scene of trying to do

599
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,100
math while playing footsie, then
maybe in season.

600
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:14,500
And for you, you have that
memory of that during The

601
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:18,000
Break-Up scenes, then it, it
feels more.

602
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:25,500
It feels less like a an invalid
storyline just to hurt the

603
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:30,400
audience.
Yeah, personally.

604
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:32,700
I mean, I don't think you're
wrong on that.

605
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:35,500
I mean, I'm not I'm not wrong
about anything.

606
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,800
No.
No, we discussed.

607
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,800
That's not far to set this
weave.

608
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,800
When we say something.
It's true, but it is.

609
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:45,700
Yeah, I mean because you are
because deep down.

610
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:54,200
I think we have ideas and
thoughts on like the motivations

611
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,500
for Kurt and Blaine because I
can't guess how many how our

612
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,300
cific freefall read on that so
far.

613
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:07,500
It's like now I too many.
Specifically with backstory with

614
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:10,300
Kurt and Blaine.
I do like backstory and I mean

615
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:14,300
like in a singular person sense
for Blake Kurt and Blaine.

616
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,100
I almost don't know where what
how I feel.

617
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,200
He would react to something
because that's his base

618
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,500
motivation comes from in whether
it's going to show or from

619
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:27,300
thick.
And I'm pretty sure it's from

620
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,800
thick because I'm pretty sure
there is base motivation for why

621
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000
playing does anything on the
fucking show?

622
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,900
So yeah, agreed.
If you don't have that early

623
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:41,800
like in as far as for like, I
mean, early for a character you

624
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,000
need, you need to have that to
understand why they do stuff.

625
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,000
So you're not just like, wow,
you literally had this

626
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,900
character, do a thing for no
reason, and it feels like a

627
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:54,600
character assassination.
It's the same reason for a

628
00:41:54,607 --> 00:41:58,600
relationship which is, if you've
not laid down the groundwork to

629
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,100
say, here's who they are in this
relationship, and you can see

630
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,700
it.
When something blows up and

631
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,900
they're like, and the reasoning
is circumspect.

632
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,900
It's just like that makes no
sense.

633
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:14,600
Because you wouldn't show me.
Even show me them together.

634
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,500
So far, as I was aware of, like
everything was fine and perfect

635
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:20,900
in.
There's no problems because you

636
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:24,300
don't do anything other than
occasionally, be like, here's a

637
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:27,600
big explosion, and then nothing.
And here's a big explosion.

638
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:30,900
So I'm just assuming everything
in the middle is super duper

639
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:32,900
cool.
If I were no reason, okay.

640
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:36,800
So yeah.
Yeah, I mean and also I would

641
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:42,700
just really like to see them
hang out and like they're best

642
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:46,300
friends, but you don't really
after this you don't really see

643
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:50,500
some, you know, see it as much
as yeah, they don't they don't

644
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,200
show much of a friendship
besides.

645
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:56,400
That will show much, besides,
the hard moments.

646
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Anyway, yeah, and I mean, I get
that, you know, being able to

647
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,700
weather hard moments together
can be very important to a, to a

648
00:43:05,707 --> 00:43:09,800
relationship, but it's not all
that's in a relationship and

649
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,800
it's not all it's in their
relationship.

650
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,400
And so you want to be able to
enjoy stupid happy moments that

651
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,600
I'm sure include carpool.
Karaoke playing style.

652
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,900
Yes.
Well, yeah, for me, it feels

653
00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:27,200
like They when they finally,
when the writers finally

654
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,900
decided, okay, they're going to
be a couple couple.

655
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,700
They wrote up to this.
Episode.

656
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,300
All right, now they're together
now, we're done.

657
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,800
Yes.
Yeah.

658
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,100
Anyway, no, that's that's not
the end.

659
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:47,400
There's so much more that is
100% where it's just like, this

660
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,300
is, this is the end of the road
for not yet the like, this is

661
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,600
the culmination of everything.
And it's just like, well, I

662
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,100
mean, if that's how you think of
writing again, if you that's

663
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:01,200
how, it's, how you deal with
writing characters and

664
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,200
relationships is The penultimate
is them together.

665
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,600
And the only thing that can be
dramatic is we have to break

666
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,900
them up because couples in a
relationship only have you know,

667
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,200
drama happened if they're about
to break up.

668
00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:18,300
Nothing else.
Externally can happen to a

669
00:44:18,308 --> 00:44:20,300
relationship that provides
drama.

670
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:26,400
No, you fundamentally
misunderstand how to write

671
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,600
characters.
You just do it, right?

672
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:36,800
Yeah, this may be taking it a
little far, but it's also is it

673
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,100
a little?
It's also, maybe a little

674
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:45,100
gendered but it does feel also
like a guy going.

675
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:49,000
All right, I got the person I
wanted and now I'm done.

676
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:50,900
Yeah.
Yeah, right.

677
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:56,500
The writers wrote the person,
obtaining the object of their

678
00:44:56,500 --> 00:45:01,600
affection and that was the end.
And now there's no more.

679
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:08,700
There's there's no.
Keeping it.

680
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,900
There's no.
I can't even say the word,

681
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,900
there's no.
Raw.

682
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Yeah, I think of the word I'm
thinking there's no maintaining

683
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,100
the relationship.
There's nothing like yeah, it's

684
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,900
I mean it's gender but I mean
it's kind of in it.

685
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,500
But in the same way, you just
kind of feels like the way a

686
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,900
dude would think about a
relationship and maybe that's

687
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:33,400
bad of me to think about dudes.
But dudes duck.

688
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,300
But like sorry Murphy, but is
this how you think of getting

689
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,600
your husband?
Like I got him and now I don't

690
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,400
have to think about what comes
after it.

691
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Like I won.
That's how relationships work.

692
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,100
I got the guy.
No.

693
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:50,300
Well now you have to have to be
couldn't get a divorce or

694
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,700
whatever.
But like I won.

695
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,900
Well, no.
Now you now you should continue

696
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:58,100
to want to make that person
happy.

697
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:01,800
And it's like these Kurt and
Blaine.

698
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,800
Never not never, but there's
very little going forward in the

699
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,400
series of them.
Making each other.

700
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Happy for the sake of making
each other happy.

701
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:17,900
No, it's not.
It's not that they don't want to

702
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:20,600
which is not even in the show,
which is not considered to be

703
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,500
part of their characters.
That's not a saying that they

704
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:25,000
don't like each other.
Like, we're not on this podcast.

705
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,500
A clean is a bad relationship
that can be a minute.

706
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:34,600
What we're saying is that the
writers didn't bother to show us

707
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,000
the mm, they do.
It's just not there.

708
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,200
They just don't bother to show
us the behind-the-scenes of

709
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,500
their relationship.
So.

710
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,300
It.
We're not saying that they don't

711
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:49,300
like each other.
We're saying, you never get to

712
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:54,500
see the nice little.
I brought you flowers because I

713
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:59,400
walk past a bodega or I you
know, I mean there's 16 they

714
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,100
wouldn't fucking do that shit.
Anyway, but you're right.

715
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:04,300
I mean like the little the
little things you don't see the

716
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:07,800
little things that make up a
relationship.

717
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:10,400
Yeah.
You see is the chase.

718
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:15,400
There's the culmination and then
everything and then there's

719
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,700
nothing except for when there's
an explosion.

720
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,300
So small domestic my new shh,
which and they're sick.

721
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:30,000
So, keep grains of salt for
Domesticity at this point.

722
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:33,400
The Domesticity is like, doing
their homework, but even, that

723
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,700
would have been fucking nice to
see, or even just like a like a

724
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:39,000
cutaway shot.
Like instead of having some of

725
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,800
their conversation, like have
some of their vacations at

726
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,600
Dalton in like one of the in
the, in their, in their room,

727
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:50,600
working on homework together,
kind of like laying on the bed.

728
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,000
They didn't some a blushing
things in the beginning with

729
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,500
their relationship with You
know, with kind of setting up

730
00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:05,300
how hello they're good friends,
but they neglect.

731
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:11,300
Once it's been it's like a high.
The the prey was caught done.

732
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:14,900
Yeah, established relationship.
It's like well, relationships

733
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:17,600
are fluid and relationships,
move and relationships require

734
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,800
work in constant maintenance and
not what we get been.

735
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,000
So as a as a viewer, I I don't
have that Insight because you're

736
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:34,800
not getting And frankly, I think
we all just really want to watch

737
00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:36,100
Kurt and Blaine hang out
together.

738
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:37,800
Yes.
That's all.

739
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,300
We're say.
Oh, yeah, that's basically the

740
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
blue line here.
Show us.

741
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,400
More of them is actual people.
It's the gift of Thor smashing

742
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,800
the mug just screaming out more.
I mean, there's there's a whole,

743
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,100
there's a whole thick subculture
for just like fluff, fix.

744
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:01,800
Ya thinking, between Yeah, yeah,
we get exactly the in-between

745
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,200
moments because that's something
we're not getting.

746
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,700
So it's almost like that's that
was a necessity for the for

747
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:12,800
people to understand fellow
people.

748
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:18,000
And you're not providing it.
So, therefore, we have to go and

749
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,400
make it ourselves.
I have said before on this

750
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,100
podcast.
I don't know.

751
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:26,600
I know, and I'll continue to say
it a really, really, really well

752
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,700
written show.
Probably does not have a lot of

753
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:32,700
thick, not saying it doesn't
have it, because let's be

754
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:35,600
honest.
There is still good omits fix.

755
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,300
Oh, I was literally thinking,
like, how much good omen stick

756
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:42,600
of I written, but it's not sad.
It's all like, it's all

757
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,800
post-show of like, and now they
live happily ever after fucking

758
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,800
in the cottage.
The name inspired by faith.

759
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Yes.
It's not fix it thick.

760
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,400
It's not.
It's not let me, it's not even

761
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,500
like, I mean, you can, And
there's definitely stuff that's

762
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,300
we're just using this because
that's what I've been reading

763
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:05,000
recently, because like, there's
definitely stuff that is set

764
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:10,400
within the length of the show
and or book, but a lot of it

765
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,600
tends to be inspired by takes
off of, you know, a use.

766
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,500
So now I'm not fit.
It was not fake if it's a good

767
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:19,600
written show.
I'm just saying it isn't the

768
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,500
follow.
Its, yeah.

769
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,900
I know, but I don't and it's
very different.

770
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:27,100
Yeah, but when something is
really well written, especially

771
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:30,600
when it comes to Actors, the you
don't need to supplement.

772
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:36,400
Well, Grace interior because you
have the show, the show provides

773
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:40,300
the dumbest acidity, the fluff
moments, a provides everything

774
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:44,900
you need to understand this
character and this relationship

775
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,800
and while some people are always
going to want to explore that

776
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,600
further that totally makes sense
you.

777
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:56,600
It's not a necessity to make
sense of the show and or provide

778
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,200
something that you're missing.
And that's the Sara Lee, or to

779
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:00,600
make the characters, more
likeable.

780
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:05,300
Yeah, or he said, it's my yeah,
pretty much so.

781
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,000
Oh my God, this is a very, very
in depth.

782
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:15,200
Nuance to conversation on this
high fives all around guys.

783
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,300
Listen, I just fit with like
like also doing we all just

784
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,700
agree.
Candles was a bullshit song but

785
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:26,300
I'm gonna tape it gonna push.
Yeah, about it.

786
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,800
I mean we don't have much but
just like what were you

787
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,900
thinking?
I mean, the Raise Your Glass.

788
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,400
I get that's just cute.
Why you thought those two songs

789
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,400
went together, you should
deserve.

790
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,100
Is that reason I'll so you
basically have a adorable couple

791
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,800
who is being adorable and you're
going to have them saying the

792
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,500
most breakup song.
Yeah, I mean they made it sound

793
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:58,200
pretty like their voices sound
good together, but that's about

794
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:06,700
as far as Darren and Chris,
Chris and Darren have to say it

795
00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:09,500
that way sound of you can't say,
Derek.

796
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:17,900
Darren exactly, because you're
talking about one person.

797
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,300
Yeah, it's a yeah.
Yeah, it feels like a song that

798
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,600
Murphy was like, oh it has the
word Solo in it.

799
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:34,000
And this was a story line about
Kurt, getting a solo in a thing.

800
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,600
Let's use it.
Like no, that's that's not how

801
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,800
it works.
Yeah, no, it's not so.

802
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:51,100
So, not surprisingly.
This was the fan voted all-time

803
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:53,200
favorite episode.
According to Glee's Final

804
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,600
Countdown.
Hell, yeah, it was and I don't

805
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,700
think that suppresses anybody
here.

806
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:03,000
I just felt like share so of the
songs.

807
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:05,900
What what is everybody's
favorite?

808
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:16,000
And light rays are glad Raise
Your Glass is good.

809
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,800
I like Raise Your Glass.
I also have like me because it's

810
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,600
fun.
Yeah, it's actually not a bad

811
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,500
song.
Yeah, I I get torn between

812
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,100
Blackbird because I do actually,
I mean, I really appreciate

813
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,900
Chris singing.
Beatles songs.

814
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:43,800
Yes, stripping does a fabulous
job singing Beatles songs, and

815
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,900
that one, even though it's about
a bird, who was pointing his

816
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:51,200
voice has an incredibly Angelic
quality to it.

817
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:57,200
But also I kind of liked misery.
In the sense that was just it

818
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,100
was just sort of a ridiculous
song.

819
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:02,000
It especially in the show where
they're just like throwing the

820
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,400
name.
Like you said, thrown his kids

821
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,800
homework around, run around the
school.

822
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:08,200
Blame thinks.
He's top Man On Campus.

823
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,900
It's like you're a dick.
This entire song is basically a

824
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:15,800
bunch of children enabling you
to be a dick and I'm a I'm

825
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,300
amused by it.
This papers were actually like

826
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:22,000
their field trip permission
slips.

827
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,600
And also where are the teachers?
You're cleaning up after Blaine

828
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,800
throwing all their papers around
sounds about.

829
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,500
Right.
Do we have any?

830
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,900
Do we have any notes for as far
as the favorite line?

831
00:54:37,900 --> 00:54:43,100
I mean, really?
Are you asking?

832
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:52,700
Look, I'm asking for posterity.
Can't even say it.

833
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,000
Okay, I'm shouldn't cry.
I thought we were.

834
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,800
I thought we were because no
one's ever put.

835
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,500
Oh, there you are.
I've Been Looking For You

836
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,800
Forever on a gift set.
Oh, there you are.

837
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,100
I've been looking for you
forever.

838
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:19,800
I know for that's not overused
as a fandom at all and be an

839
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,500
excuse to spend more time with
you.

840
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,200
Well, I don't think he said it
in that way.

841
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:27,300
Well, maybe he dead.
That's how I heard it.

842
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:32,700
Fair enough.
Just me the Do we have?

843
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:36,600
Do we have anything for the, the
Kevin scale?

844
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,400
The fat zero?
I, he's got good.

845
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:44,300
It's like you have you have you
have credit on the episode?

846
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:45,500
That's all I got for you.
My man.

847
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,500
I vote for this episode.
Only we change the Kevin scale

848
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:52,200
to the caught walking piano
scale and give it a chance.

849
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:59,500
All right, sit down.
Do I need to ask but what the

850
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,200
Find X number is its, it gets a
nine point?

851
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:14,400
It just gets a nine because
there's, there's no boning and

852
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:18,700
they don't say, I love you.
I'm, I would agree with a nine

853
00:56:18,700 --> 00:56:20,400
though.
My reason for taking a point off

854
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:27,100
is mistreatment of the bird fair
enough.

855
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:32,900
We have knowing knowing how
things go.

856
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,300
There's definitely like I
definitely would it would agree

857
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:42,000
with a 9 because Are other.
Episodes in moments where I'm

858
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,100
like, that's like a 40.
So let's give this a knife and

859
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:50,300
of, yeah, because there's one
more episode where we're

860
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:53,200
probably going to give it a ten.
Right?

861
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:56,400
I think so.
There's, there's a couple that

862
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,100
I'm thinking.
Oh, great.

863
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:00,300
I think of more scenes than
necessarily full episodes were

864
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:04,200
like, yeah.
I know that that y'all just got

865
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,500
his head straight up heavy
make-out session on a couch.

866
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:16,400
So, like that, if this, this
gets A 94 like yes, I was about

867
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,200
to say Darren but it's playing,
you know, which is raised for me

868
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:25,600
for his face journey.
And then for Chris / Kurt, I got

869
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,800
it.
And I got kind of got to give it

870
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,100
to Chris for his, his pink ears
and his blushing.

871
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:37,400
Yeah, there was really self,
totally sold at the dude.

872
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,100
I've been crushing on kissed me
for the first time.

873
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,500
And in like be my official first
kiss and the sentence.

874
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:46,000
That's helping hand.
Yeah.

875
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:47,800
Yeah.
The prize

876
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,000
but the next one sucks.
Yeah, the next thing we're going

877
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,200
to talk about this episode of
yeah.

878
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:13,600
Yeah, basically Night of neglect
sux, except for the part that

879
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,700
like they're dating and holding
hands, and then Santana's

880
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:19,500
favorite line.
And I'm like a month on my

881
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:20,900
won't.
Oh my God, go into it, because

882
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:23,400
we can go back.
But basically, we're just going

883
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,700
to this episode again.
So, okay.

884
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:35,400
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