Public Service Glee-nouncement

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I think nobody told Diana that
it wasn't gay.

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Much like Supernatural, no one
told them it wasn't gay.

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Hello, Welcome to Glee on The
Rocks, the podcast where we

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breakdown the highs and lows of
the writing, the music, and the

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cultural impact.
The TV show that only ran for

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six seasons and ended more than
five years ago.

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I am Emily.
I'm Mandy and I'm B.

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And today we are talking about
season three, episode 14 On My

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way.
The quick summary from good old

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Netflix is things heat up as the
new direction go head to head

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with the Dalton Academy Warblers
at Regionals.

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Frankly, the summary does not
tell you anything that's

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actually happening in this
episode.

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Or maybe that's a good them.
Yeah, it should.

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I don't know if anyone is.
Listening to this podcast

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without watching the episodes
along with us, but like slight

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content warning for definitely.
Yes.

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Yeah, suicide attempts.
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If you don't remember what
episode this is, we're going to

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be mentioning suicide quite a
bit throughout this podcast I'm

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sure so.
Yes.

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And I guess major.
Accidents or you know imply car

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accidents if that's an issue for
anybody.

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But yes, suicide is the the top
warning on this episode this

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this fun filled exciting
episode.

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Yeah, I guess there's not a good
way to go around the the big to

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do of this episode but it does
kind of.

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I think the episode does kind of
a good job of.

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It doesn't sneak it in, but it
it's not set up as a episode

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like an after school children's
special episode, because it

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starts out with my BFF Sebastian
trying to blackmail Rachel into

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dropping out of Regionals
because he somehow seems to

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think that she's the only way
the New Directions might win,

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which is then reinforced by the
outcome of the episode, which is

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annoying.
Yes, it is.

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It is reinforced.
He does threaten her with a

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Photoshop nude Finn, which may
or may not constitute child

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pornography.
I'm not entirely sure.

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Thin line, but there were some
good lines in this little.

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This opening salvo of this
episode with well, well, well,

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if it isn't a young Barbra
Streisand and an old Betty

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White.
Which and where is gay Cyclops?

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Gay Cyclops?
So you know it's a fun way to

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get an episode going, and I
think it.

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Also, I can't remember what the
the.

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Trailers and the promo of this
episode were about, but I feel

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like it was mostly about
regionals and not about the

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other plot lines.
So I think it it does set up or

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I guess it doesn't really slap
you in the face that something

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big and terrible is going to
happen, which I think was a

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good.
It's kind of a sleight of hand,

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right?
Like we're all geared up for

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Regionals and Finn and Rachel
getting wet, getting married.

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And instead we get another Dave
Krofsky episode and the series

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mid season finale cliffhanger of
the last shot, which again, if

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you haven't watched this
episode, I spoilers.

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I think that's the whole point
of this podcast, so please don't

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be surprised if you don't know
what's about to happen in this

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episode.
This episode has a lot of stuff

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going on just in general.
Like, they really packed a lot

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in.
And I I almost felt like this

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was kind of the wrong episode to
do regionals in.

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Like it felt weird to kind of
put all the it's a wedding and a

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fallout of an suicide attempt
and regionals.

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That's a lot for one episode.
It's really like they were going

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hard on the cliffhanger and just
like put a bunch of phrases into

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like a hat and drew out three of
them like three things.

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Now let's write an episode
around these three things.

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Yeah, yeah.
And it really like each one is

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kind of significant in its own
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One of them would have
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Any one of them, plus Sue
telling Quinn that she's

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pregnant.
Forgot about that completely.

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Yes, so like the Crossy
storyline plus Sue being

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pregnant, regionals plus Sue
being pregnant or the wedding

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plus Sue being any any combo is
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Any combo plus one more is a lot
but it is you know it is the mid

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season finale and they are
trying this is you know pre

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Netflix.
They are trying to get people to

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remember to watch the show in
three months.

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So I guess it worked.
It's.

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Like, if they don't care about
the gays, they'll care about the

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straight block.
If they don't care about that,

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they'll care about like Sue's
baby.

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Yes, that's the top of
everyone's list, I was about to

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say.
Did people care about Sue's

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baby?
I I completely forgot.

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So even had a baby.
Even though we talked about it

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recently, I still don't know
until we.

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Yeah, I mean, it was one of our
like 30 days of Glee opinions.

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We were like in the show.
We even forgot about Sue's baby,

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like, and so did we.
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I forgot again.
After talking about it two

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months ago, well, I remember
watching these episodes alive

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and thinking it was a joke that
was eventually gonna like, yeah,

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land like yes.
Like there's no way.

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Yeah, she is with child and
like.

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Produces a fully grown woman
that she adopted 12 years ago.

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But Nope, no, no, she's
pregnant.

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Well, we'll see.
I guess you'll have to listen to

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the show, and that's only like
the D plot in this episode.

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That's the D plot, but it it
does bring Quinn in so that we

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start the episode with some
Quinn and then we end the

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episode with some Quinn.
That's right.

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Like she's She wants to rejoin
the Cheerios.

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Her hair looks banging, and she
wants to she wants to end her

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high school career on a high
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And the payoff of that storyline
in the last shot does not go

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well for her.
Yeah, they were really trying to

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set up some emotional resonance
of like Quinn getting into the

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cliffhanger accident at the end
and haven't been doing much with

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Quinn this season.
Question mark.

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Not that I can remember.
So I guess they were like, well,

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we gotta, she's going to want to
rejoin the Cheerios.

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It was an interesting choice for
it to be Quinn, to be the one

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who has a big accident happened
to her.

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Like I guess we got to give her
something to do and that

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something is a couple episodes
in a wheelchair that's that's

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Glee's like main go to we've
said that before it's like if

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they need something to happen to
some character it's always

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Quinn.
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She had the baby of all these
massive problems and now she is

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potentially dead, which, you
know, obviously not since we've

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all seen three more seasons of
the show.

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But in the cliffhanger style, we
don't even know what happens.

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Considering, like what happens
to Quinn's character after the

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end of this season, I wonder if
Ryan did consider just killing

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her off.
That could have been

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interesting.
He essentially disappears.

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I mean, Diana comes back a few
times, but she is not one of the

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frequently invited back cast
members.

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No, she she is not.
I'm not sure whose choice that

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is.
It might be hers.

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I mean, I wouldn't.
Blame her, either.

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It could have been interesting
to, you know you're setting up

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that.
Dave Korovsky attempts suicide,

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but instead it's the girl who
seems to finally have everything

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that she wants who ends up
dying.

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Could have been.
I'm sure we would have hated it

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if it happened, but it isn't.
I was watching it.

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Love but a move.
I was like that really would

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have been like a move if they've
done that, not.

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Yeah, not good.
Well, maybe good.

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Could have been good.
Depending on how they dealt with

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it in the back half of the
season and going forward, if

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they were just like queue six
months later and we've all

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forgotten about our best pal
Quinn.

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In the long run it wouldn't have
been good because they have to

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deal with another character
death that is not voluntary, so

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I think, which is not something
they obviously would have known

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at all, but.
No.

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Well, I was sitting here
thinking about that.

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I'm like, did Glee ever kill off
a character who wasn't what?

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That wasn't a necessity, only
Sue's sister.

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I think that's the only
character that ever got killed

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off for the show, which is
interesting because I think Glee

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sometimes can slip into the kind
of more soap opera E shows like

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Grey's Anatomy or something.
Sometimes, you know, it still

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tries to be a comedy, but
there's something like very

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heavy things that they go into,
but death isn't one that they

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visit often.
Yeah, no.

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And it's not like Ryan Murphy
avoids death in his other shows,

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right?
So who knows, maybe the maybe

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the network was like, let's not
kill off teenagers on this show.

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Yeah.
Really.

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The.
Fact that teenagers more or less

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reality setting might have made
a difference.

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Yeah, and even in the school
shooting episode down the line,

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no one is actually hurt, right?
It's not even a real school

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shooting.
Yeah, it's right.

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Like they like, which we can get
into when we get there in like a

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season.
But that, to me is one of the

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worst attempts that they've made
at a saying something big is

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like this fake school shooting.
And I think that's why On my Way

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is ultimately successful is #1
Chris, Darren, and Max are

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really carrying the show on
their backs, and #2 Glee hadn't

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yet crossed the line into too
many very special episodes on

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too many preachy subjects.
Like the fact that, like teen

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gay suicide and texting and
driving are in the same episode

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is a little much, but I think
they hadn't overdone it yet like

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this.
At least the Karafsky's door

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line has some this is this is a
continuation of something we've

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been seeing all season.
It wasn't just literally one

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Capital V Very Special Episode.
I I do wonder why Murphy key and

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I know Murphy has said, like he
just really likes Max Adler.

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But I do wonder why he keeps
coming back to Kurovsky, writing

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him endings and then bringing
him back all over like Krosky

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has now had.
This is his second.

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Like we didn't need to see you
again ending.

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Yeah.
Yeah like we were good.

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Your story ended.
You are fine.

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And then they brought him back
for this one.

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And the story ends and he is
good.

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He seems to be in a much better
place.

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We don't need to see him again.
He doesn't even go to the school

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and he comes back yet again.
And I I don't understand why

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Murphy devotes so much time to
bringing back this particular

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character for like what purpose?
What?

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Just to why?
Why they're so they're so like

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lukewarm on it too.
Like I would have supported Oh

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my God, what if, like what if
like Kurovsky had gone to Dalton

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and like joined the Warblers?
Like, that would have been

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interesting.
More Sebastian, more Trent,

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more.
All the other Warblers that are

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there.
I would have loved that.

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I love Dalton.
Storylines, like they just, they

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bring him in for like 3 episodes
and then he's gone and then he

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doesn't.
Does he come back between now

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and season six?
I don't think so.

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I think the next time we see him
is in the storyline that doesn't

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exist exactly so like much
because the end of his

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conversation with Kurt in this
is like you said, you want to be

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friends.
Like I would like to be friends

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but then never see any casual
friend interaction.

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They don't even go back to
scandals till like again season

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six so.
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And if you were at if he then
was like, I'm going to transfer

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to Dalton where I'm not going to
be bullied.

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Then then him showing up now and
again is like, fine.

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And then you can have like,
well, me, you know, Blaine

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saying.
Me and Korovsky have been

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getting closer and like, well, I
get it because you're you got

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friends.
You go back and forth between

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Dalton like fine, no, but fine
and Oh my God, salt in the

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wound.
Because Blaine has like no lines

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or anything about Korovsky's
storyline in this episode.

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Like.
Yeah, no, he doesn't have a lot

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of lines in this episode anyway.
No, like they they imagine.

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He didn't have time to rehearse.
True.

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But I'm just thinking, like, you
know, now that we have this

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bird's eye view of, like, what's
going to happen throughout the

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rest of the series?
Like, really fucked up.

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Like, I feel like there could
have been some room for

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interpretation had Blaine said
anything about anything.

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But he literally has zero lines
about Karovsky.

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Yeah, if, if anyone, if anyone,
grows closer to Kuroski, it's

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Kurt.
Yeah, definitely, You know.

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If if you want to go down the
line following Kurt and Blaine's

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relationship and what happens
and who Kurt might turn to, I

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sure.
I guess because they've had more

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than one conversation now,
right?

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And like maybe bonded over
something substantial versus

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bullying physical.
The summation of Blaine's

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interaction with Karoski at this
point is the stairwell and never

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been kissed.
Yes, maybe they text frequently.

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Maybe they follow each other on
Tumblr.

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I mean, let's be real.
The whole thing is that it's a

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small town and there's only so
many gays.

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That's really what it comes down
to.

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I'm sure in season 6 but.
Yeah, that does seem to be the

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issue here.
Yeah, but I remember when this

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episode came out and stop me if
I'm skipping around too much.

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But Mr. Schuster leads the like
circle up on the stage after,

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like everybody finds out about
Karoski's suicide attempt.

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And obviously Mr. Shue gives
like the most hollow, weird

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story of his own, like, suicidal
thoughts.

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That just feels very like, not
equivocal to the experiences

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being had by other people than
the traumas had by other people.

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And I remember there being a
Tumblr post like back in the

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day.
Like, wouldn't that been so much

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more powerful if Blaine was
sharing that he had had some

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sort of depression, suicidal
thoughts when he was going

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through trauma Like.
Yeah, again, it's it's like the

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wrong character with the wrong
storyline because we know the

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plane was attacked.
And has trouble with his dad and

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has has the background to have
had an incident like that but no

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like let's bring Mr. Schuster's
bad test score in.

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I know.
And Blaine, like, doesn't share

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anything really substantial at
all in that circle of like, wow,

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really just Glee.
Wasted opportunity.

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Yeah, it.
Felt like the writers literally

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just forgot that they had that
character with that background.

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Which is extra upsetting because
I felt like there was a lot of

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other good continuity in this
episode.

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There was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know Rachel or well, yeah, I

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mean the continuity of of Rachel
choosing herself over Finn.

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You know, I, Finn was so shocked
when Rachel didn't want to step

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back from Regionals by being
black by my Sebastian.

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I was like, Finn.
Where where have you been,

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sweetie?
Yes, this is what she does.

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Like, of course she's going to
perform.

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What do you what do you think?
Like, that's that's who she is,

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and you should be pissed.
But you should also have seen

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that coming so that I
appreciated they didn't.

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Suddenly, I appreciate when they
don't forget that Rachel is

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inherently selfcentered.
And that's not necessarily bad.

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Yeah, she was more likeable in
this episode than some others.

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Yeah, strangely, yeah, I think.
Rachel like in proximity to her

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father's is immediately more
likable to me because it's like

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where that comes from true and
it makes.

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It funnier.
Mmhmm, yes it does.

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Because they're like crowd
reactions to the competition

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set.
Were everything as if?

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It was as if they had never seen
her perform before.

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I know and perhaps.
Never will again, considering we

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never see them.
I know.

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They were so stunned.
Oh yeah, I did write in my

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notes.
Let's assume.

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Oh, that was the thing I was
going to say is if I had just

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read my notes in time, Sebastian
is another character who could

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have had a tragic back story
that would connect to Korovsky.

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It didn't have to be.
I mean, he wouldn't have been at

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the circle up on stage, but we
could have gotten at the Lima

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Bean when he has the the
McKinley Queer Club.

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I was about to say the summit,
the summit of the gays.

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As I said, yeah, yeah.
The Queer, the Queer.

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Lima Bean Summit, and he
sincerely apologizes.

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That would have been an
opportunity for him to be like a

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little crack in the armor of,
you know, I, I to XY&Z, right?

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But.
Now, like why he doesn't?

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Why give him a back story at all
except for?

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That he drinks Covastic?
Yes, like mother's milk.

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That's exactly what I was gonna
say.

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A drink.
That nobody but a Saturday Night

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Live character has ever imbibed.
You've never bought it.

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I've never bought it.
Your parents have never bought

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it?
Nope, I'm pretty.

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Sure, I've never heard of it
until Glee Covassier.

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I don't even know how to spell
it to Google it, so yes.

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There's a lot of vowels
happening.

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It's just there's a lot.
But I did.

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I did appreciate the summit of
the gays, the the career summit

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moment.
Because.

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Wow.
When?

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Did that ever happen?
That's true.

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It's like there wasn't a
straight person on screen like

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that.
Was nice characters, but yes,

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allegedly.
Allegedly.

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That's right.
Yeah, I know.

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It was nice.
It was like, Oh yeah, look how

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many there are.
And and Sebastian like, called

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them like he apparently so.
Like he just has them all, has

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them all in speed dial like
they're all mortal enemies.

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But yeah, small town queers are
hard to come by.

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So it's like, well, I think they
probably have a group chat I.

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Probably.
Got to.

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And like he keeps trying to
start a little a little thread

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going and he just gets like
gifts back or like the little

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thumbs up when you tap on a text
but no one wants to talk to him.

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Yeah, just keeps changing his
number to get him for Sebastian.

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I miss you.
Yeah.

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I guess going going back, we
kind of skipped over the fact

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that the the suicide storyline
is that Kurovsky is being

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bullied by his new, I'm
assuming, football team.

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Although we don't know the
extent of it other than someone

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wrote a slur on his locker and
there are some comments on

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Facebook like you know, he
physically assaulted Kurt

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several times and not that name
calling is bad, but if if

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there's equations happening
here, he did a lot worse to

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Kurt.
So this is.

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Kind of the continuation of the
storyline we saw in Heart where

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he's at the.
Red sticks with Kurt at the end

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and his like football.
Pier teammate sees him with

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Kurt.
I was like, what is it called

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His pier, his football, pier his
football.

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Pier Correct.
Exactly.

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And then assumes, based solely
on the fact that two men are at

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a restaurant together, that it
is romantic in nature.

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Teenage boys.
But.

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I know, right?
They do come closer than three

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feet to a guy, right?
No.

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Is fellas is it gay to eat food
with a friend they weren't even

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eating?
But yeah, no, I agree that it's

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like, interesting how much more
sensitive, fragile, much more of

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a powder keg Kurovski is
compared to.

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Kurt Blaine, you know some of
these other queer characters and

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their storylines of of the
trauma and bullying they went

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through.
I think that's the patriarchy

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is.
And like toxic masculinity or a

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hell of a drug, yes, is part of.
That, yeah, it could be that

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Ryan Murphy was trying to, or
whoever wrote this episode was

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was trying to say something
about like the bigger they are,

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the harder they fall.
Like how how deeply that sense

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of masculinity was running in
Krofsky, that it was so fragile

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where Kurt and Blaine and
whomever else have had to put

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stronger armor on over the
years.

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Because it's been constant.
Because literally people like

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Krofsky were.
Yeah, yeah.

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Right.
This is sort of like verging

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into the same topic.
But I I really have issues with

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the part of the storyline where
Kurt is like, I should have just

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answered a call.
He he wanted to be friends.

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I'm like, no, I don't like the
idea that you are morally

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obligated to become friends with
the person who traumatized you

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enough, I mean.
I don't know.

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Not answering the phone calls.
Perfectly valid.

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I mean, it sucks for Dave, like
the idea of a closeted character

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going through what Kroski went
through.

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It also has some merit like to
show, but I don't know.

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I just don't like the framing
of, you know, Kurt needing to be

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this, like, moral center.
Yeah.

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Right.
Like, no.

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You're you're allowed to not
want to talk to someone that

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abused you.
Yeah.

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And it's not like Kroski just
glared at him across the

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hallway.
It's been an ongoing, you know,

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he was kicked out of school for
it.

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And yeah.
Typically assaulted Kurt,

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assaulted Kurt, sort of stopped
Kurt.

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I mean, yeah.
Yeah, like one episode ago.

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Yeah, literally one episode.
Yeah, yeah, I I that was a big

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part of it is I didn't like
trying to make it seem like Kurt

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was required somehow to make
Kurosky feel better.

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And since he didn't that.
It it also sort of makes sense

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that Kurt would have those.
Oh no, it's my fault Feelings.

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I really wish they'd have been a
better point made.

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As to the no, it wasn't what he
didn't, right?

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Agreed.
Yeah, it's a rough subject to

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try to cover in a 42 minute
episode and I I don't think they

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did the worst job they could
have done.

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I think part of that was the use
of Blaine singing cough syrup

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over the scenes, if I can.
Find a way to see this state.

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I run away to some 14 that I
should have found by now.

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So that that what you had was an
emotional song over the images

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and you didn't have to.
It wasn't explicit, right?

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And you didn't have maudlin
dialogue trying to tell you

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exactly what's happening.
You had the visuals and you had

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music leading you to Kurovsky's
actions rather than him.

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Like writing in a diary.
Like, I'm so sad today.

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Yeah, I feel like that was
really masterful.

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Honestly.
The.

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Lack of dialogue, I think
helped.

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Like overall, I don't know.
It just made it a little more

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like poignant.
It was.

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It was a good song choice.
The lighting during cough syrup,

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you know it.
It set a mood that matched what

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was, you know, you had, like
Blaine's emotional struggle.

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It wasn't comparing the two,
right?

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But it was setting a tone for
Korovsky's scenes.

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And I thought, I think any other
way would have been.

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I don't think it would have
worked.

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So I think the way they shot it
really helped the scene and the

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plot.
It's not perfect, but for on the

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Glee scale of of serious
storylines, thought they did, I

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mean.
You know, for Glee not fucking

436
00:27:21,410 --> 00:27:24,650
it up is basically right, Yeah.
That's a win.

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That's a win.
That's a win.

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And you know, I'm glad he
survived.

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I don't think that's a storyline
that Glee needed.

440
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Well, they do make you
differently.

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They do.
Make you think he's dead for

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like a full they do.
Because when you were watching

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it live, there was the whole,
you know, 3 minutes of

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commercials and then there's a
long 20 seconds or something

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until they say attempt when they
come back.

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And I remember how I felt in
that moment watching it live,

447
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like I was losing it.
Yeah, well, actual suspense

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happening there.
My God, who directed this and

449
00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:07,750
one.
Of the most honestly effective

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parts of the episode was when
the teachers are all in Figgins

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office, like talking about it,
and they, like, cut to

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Kurovsky's dad.
Like finding him.

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Oh God, once again, the adult
actors who are only on screen

454
00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,030
for a few minutes at a time are
the real stars.

455
00:28:27,710 --> 00:28:30,150
Right.
Like his dad is like the most

456
00:28:30,150 --> 00:28:32,630
bit character there could be.
I don't remember the last

457
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:38,910
episode he was in and like, wow,
Yep Yep, it it had a had a real

458
00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:41,870
Goblet of fire vibe to it.
Yeah.

459
00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:44,070
Oh God.
Also sad.

460
00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:47,950
Also sad, sad dads bringing the
Air game.

461
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,720
And then when Korovsky is in the
hospital talking to Curtin, he

462
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
mentioned, like, his parents and
the pressure that he felt from

463
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,440
them.
Like, wow, I really felt that

464
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
is.
I'm glad that they included

465
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,600
that, like, in the dialogue
later on.

466
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,640
Yeah.
And I I'll credit to Max Adler

467
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,200
for being good at those because
you could really there could be

468
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:15,920
some over dramatic or completely
unbelievable and it I I know I

469
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,650
felt it.
Right.

470
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:19,570
I hate your character, but I
felt it.

471
00:29:20,250 --> 00:29:21,810
No.
Yeah, I definitely feel a lot

472
00:29:21,810 --> 00:29:24,770
more.
I don't know if I I definitely

473
00:29:24,770 --> 00:29:29,370
feel a lot more empathy for
Kurovsky upon this viewing of of

474
00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:31,930
the story.
Just.

475
00:29:31,930 --> 00:29:35,650
Because once again, Clay and
goggles.

476
00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:37,330
It's always going to come back
to that, isn't it?

477
00:29:37,330 --> 00:29:40,610
Like, I was very angry at
Kurovsky, I think going into

478
00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:44,850
this episode for what happened
in heart and like him, like

479
00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:48,710
messing with Kurt like that.
But I think getting to watch it

480
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:52,710
now from more of an objective
point of view, like I do think

481
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:57,630
Max Adler fucking killed it.
I think a lot of the pressures

482
00:29:57,630 --> 00:30:03,870
that Koroski Koroski faced were
different than some of the other

483
00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:05,790
queer characters.
I wish they'd been able to make

484
00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:10,740
that a little bit more.
Part of the storyline, like, I

485
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:13,460
feel like it'd be because
Santana does stay in the circle

486
00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:15,620
up, like I'm looking forward to
when my grandmother loves me

487
00:30:15,620 --> 00:30:16,980
again.
Which is kind of the only

488
00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:20,020
reference to the fact that,
like, there are some other queer

489
00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:23,700
characters who are not accepted
for who they are either.

490
00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:26,700
And I feel like.
It could have been so much more

491
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,900
powerful had they given more of
a spotlight to all the queer

492
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:31,700
characters and they are
processing.

493
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:35,060
Instead, they spend a lot of
time on Quinn and her processing

494
00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:38,210
of what happened to Korovski.
Which I I get.

495
00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:40,810
Why?
Because they had to build some

496
00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:44,170
emotional feeling for the last
scene.

497
00:30:44,170 --> 00:30:47,130
But yeah, it just wasn't as
authentic, I think, as it could

498
00:30:47,130 --> 00:30:48,890
have been.
Yeah.

499
00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:56,010
Especially because Quinn's POV
on Kurovski's attempt is is a

500
00:30:56,010 --> 00:30:58,530
little harsh.
I get it.

501
00:30:58,570 --> 00:31:01,610
But it it is one of those like,
OK, this just happened.

502
00:31:01,610 --> 00:31:04,530
Why don't you take a step back
for a minute and let people?

503
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:11,430
Grieve or just process before
you come in with some some 17

504
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:15,190
year old judgment here, Yeah.
Especially, you know, she should

505
00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:17,390
know well, and I I did
appreciate people calling her

506
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:20,470
out, like your pregnancy does
not equal what he's going

507
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:22,110
through.
But at the same time, you're

508
00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:23,910
right.
We don't know everything he's

509
00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:26,110
going through because he's not a
main character.

510
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:31,390
We get a few, we get a few
minutes here and there of what

511
00:31:31,550 --> 00:31:36,240
pressures he's under.
It's just it's hard to build it

512
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
up to it if he's not the main
part of the show.

513
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Yeah.
And it's tough to, like, build

514
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,360
any nuance in there either
because it's like they could

515
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,600
have brought up the fact that,
like, Quinn was kicked out of

516
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,000
her house, like, you know, but
they didn't like Kurt was just

517
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,240
kind of like nobody, you know,
no one ever stopped loving you

518
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,400
or something like that or or I
guess he didn't say no one.

519
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,040
But he said like people, the
universe or something never

520
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,120
stopped loving you.
And it's like.

521
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:07,540
Well, she is white and sis and
you know, a woman.

522
00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:11,060
So yes, but at the same time,
like she was very much kicked

523
00:32:11,060 --> 00:32:14,340
out of her house and like
Mercedes was there in the room,

524
00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:21,580
right, right.
Yeah, this.

525
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,340
Could have been like, hey,
remember when you had to live in

526
00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:19,380
my house?
I.

527
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:24,940
Just goes back to the fact that
the Glee Riders room was just

528
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:27,500
blank.
No one was keeping track.

529
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,200
No one was keeping track and and
what that does is it really lets

530
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,440
a lot of balls drop where the
conversation was fine but it

531
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,240
could have been so much better.
Like Quinn's point could have

532
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,560
been so much stronger if they
had remembered to make her

533
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400
point.
Other than just it's selfish and

534
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,000
he hurts other people like okay.
But let's let's take, like, 30

535
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,480
seconds to dig into why you feel
that way, that, like, let's

536
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480
let's go back and remember,
like, your parents are crazy.

537
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,560
And you also had all this
pressure on you to be the

538
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,000
perfect teenage girl.
Yeah.

539
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,240
And you got pregnant by a loser.
You had to give up your baby.

540
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,160
And then you went insane.
Like, right, let's.

541
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Take the 30 seconds to talk
about it.

542
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080
It's all there.
It's already there.

543
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Coulda Shura what a.
Exactly.

544
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760
I coulda shoulda What a will be
high this episode.

545
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,550
Oh my God, yeah.
I mean, I do appreciate that

546
00:33:24,550 --> 00:33:28,870
they they took the time to
script like a lot of different

547
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:32,190
perspectives, kind of and the
like.

548
00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:36,710
I think it, I think it gave a
very authentic feeling.

549
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:41,350
Well, besides the coulda of what
a of like the fallout of such an

550
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:43,990
event and what might happen.
I thought it was interesting

551
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:48,150
that, like Figgins brought up
that, like, copycat attempts are

552
00:33:48,150 --> 00:33:51,670
common.
That play out, Not that I wanted

553
00:33:51,670 --> 00:33:57,150
that to happen necessarily at
all, but besides that, I felt

554
00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,590
like it.
It did feel like, yes, Quinn's

555
00:33:59,590 --> 00:34:04,350
response was a little bit silly,
the way that they framed it, you

556
00:34:04,350 --> 00:34:08,350
know, all info nonwithstanding.
But I did feel like, yeah,

557
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:11,030
that's probably what I would
have thought when I was her age.

558
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:15,750
So I do appreciate when they
write teenagers in a way that

559
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:19,520
feels very teenagery.
No.

560
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:25,280
Very short sighted exactly in
your opinions.

561
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,400
And it was Roberto Acquire.
Sacasa wrote this episode, by

562
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,480
the way.
I looked that up because I

563
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,120
thought it was like, who?
Who got all this continuity?

564
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,000
Who did this?
One.

565
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:37,639
Who?
Who?

566
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,440
Almost.
You know, 75% continuity.

567
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:43,750
That's all he had time for
because he only gets 6 minutes

568
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,429
to write an episode.
I know.

569
00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:47,750
Oh, because he even, like,
brought up when Sue was

570
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:50,949
principal because she's like, I
was principal when Korovsky and

571
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:53,830
Porcelain were having their
conflict or whatever.

572
00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:57,630
Yes, I thought that was another
area that could have been a

573
00:34:57,630 --> 00:35:01,350
little more nuanced of like,
look, let's talk about the

574
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:05,510
failures of this school in
dealing with Korovsky and Kurt,

575
00:35:05,590 --> 00:35:07,310
because they are many.
Yeah.

576
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:11,430
If only we didn't have to.
Shovin Regionals in this

577
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:13,510
episode.
We probably could have made time

578
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:15,550
for that.
Yeah, right.

579
00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:18,110
Well, that's yeah, that's true.
It does.

580
00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:21,830
It's just a little jam packed.
But I think it being jam packed

581
00:35:21,830 --> 00:35:27,830
does make it feel urgent and it
does really rush you up to the

582
00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:32,070
the midseason finale, which I
get.

583
00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:36,430
I understand.
And yet you know it.

584
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:41,070
It does leave room.
I guess it leaves room for fake.

585
00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:44,270
That's the good thing about
Glee.

586
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:47,510
There was always room for fake.
It's always room to take the

587
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:50,830
three seconds of screen time and
go, what really happened there?

588
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:58,150
Yeah.
So what else do we have?

589
00:35:58,150 --> 00:36:00,910
I mean, there's so much, there's
so much in this episode.

590
00:36:01,870 --> 00:36:05,150
We do have regionals.
There is music in this episodes

591
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:09,270
beyond Blaine's stunning
performance.

592
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:12,110
It's actually.
Music I like too.

593
00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:13,470
I did too.
Yeah.

594
00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:15,550
There was some good.
I feel like we didn't hear

595
00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:18,550
enough of the third show choir
that they're.

596
00:36:19,950 --> 00:36:22,270
They were talented.
Chamber music.

597
00:36:23,110 --> 00:36:27,790
Chamber music, Yeah, I feel like
we really are Lady of Perpetual

598
00:36:27,790 --> 00:36:31,430
Sorrow.
I really liked.

599
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:34,670
So Finn and Rachel announced
that they are going to get

600
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:40,330
married after Regionals, whether
or not they win and everyone is

601
00:36:40,330 --> 00:36:46,010
invited, including Quinn,
because Rachel, I guess, is

602
00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:51,770
always harboring a yen for
Quinn, which is not explored

603
00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:55,850
nearly enough.
There's some lines in here.

604
00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:58,210
There is that February?
Is that right for Berry?

605
00:36:58,210 --> 00:37:00,810
Yeah, in this circle up on
stage.

606
00:37:01,150 --> 00:37:03,750
Rachel's like, I'm gonna be
friends with all of you forever.

607
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:07,110
And then it's like really
significant glance between her

608
00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:09,430
and Quinn.
So cut, cut to Quinn.

609
00:37:10,510 --> 00:37:15,470
And then there's the line that
Quinn has about is he the.

610
00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:19,350
So after the the performance at
Regionals, she has the line

611
00:37:19,350 --> 00:37:20,670
about you were singing that
song.

612
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:24,910
You were singing it to Finn and
only Finn, right?

613
00:37:25,070 --> 00:37:28,470
Right.
What is this line like?

614
00:37:28,990 --> 00:37:32,590
Why don't you put this in here?
That's such a suggestive line

615
00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:35,470
where she really is.
Yeah, she's like, that is the

616
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:37,390
only person you were singing to,
right?

617
00:37:37,390 --> 00:37:43,350
Like, I think nobody told Diana
that it wasn't gay is what

618
00:37:43,350 --> 00:37:45,790
happened.
I think that's fair.

619
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:50,310
Yeah, I think.
Diana is just like, so in a few

620
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,110
years, we're thinking of having
you sleep with one of these

621
00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:57,750
female leads.
She was just doing her best,

622
00:37:59,870 --> 00:38:01,710
thinking like much like
Supernatural.

623
00:38:01,710 --> 00:38:03,910
No one told them it wasn't gay.
That's right.

624
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:07,110
They were just interpreting,
just interpreting the words,

625
00:38:07,710 --> 00:38:11,230
man.
Yeah, So we get, we get

626
00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:14,830
regionals, we get Darren's
Dracula impression in the

627
00:38:14,830 --> 00:38:16,310
background.
It's one of.

628
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:20,390
My favorite moments.
It remains a perfect background

629
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:22,110
claim.
Slash Chris Cole for a moment.

630
00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:24,650
Fight me and you.
And you know, Chris just

631
00:38:24,650 --> 00:38:27,450
decided, like, you just know
that was the two of them

632
00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:30,090
deciding like, Chris was like,
OK, Kurt's going to be, like,

633
00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:32,530
scared of the vampire.
Yep, Yep.

634
00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:35,090
And Darren's like.
Blaine's going to tease him

635
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:37,170
about it.
So cute.

636
00:38:37,570 --> 00:38:41,930
Such a cute moment.
Just take poor one out for the

637
00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:45,850
background clean moments.
Darren and Chris were trying so

638
00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:49,810
hard to give us water in.
In the desert that we were in.

639
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:53,240
They knew we was parched.
We was parched.

640
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,320
Didn't actually mean to say it
that way.

641
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,080
It just came out.
I'm too Pacific Northwest for

642
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,480
that kind of thing.
I can't say that.

643
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,240
So the Wow, I almost said the
Daltons.

644
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,600
They're not not the Daltons.
They're not not the Daltons.

645
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,160
The Warblers get to perform 1st
and they start out with Stand

646
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,840
Great song.
Not as great as glad you came

647
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,200
though.
Turn the lights out now.

648
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,560
We'll take you by the hand and
you another drink.

649
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,120
Drink it if you can't spend a
little time.

650
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:38,680
Time you slip it away, away from
my sustain.

651
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Stay with me.
I can make make you glad you

652
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,950
came.
I think of there too.

653
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:49,910
Glad you came is is my preferred
definitely, I wrote.

654
00:39:50,030 --> 00:39:53,670
That in the notes, Glen Superior
to stand.

655
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:55,590
They're both good, though.
Yes, I wrote that.

656
00:39:55,590 --> 00:39:58,590
Glad You Came is probably my
second favorite Warbler song

657
00:39:58,710 --> 00:40:01,190
without Darren.
Is the lead after whistle.

658
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,880
Of Darren Warbler era.
It was a whistle.

659
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,600
And then glad you came.
Oh my.

660
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,480
God, not that there's a lot of
songs to choose from.

661
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,760
No, for that two cents, it's
really.

662
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Jumping ahead.
But I remember fighting with

663
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
people and Tumblr like there was
no fucking way they're actually

664
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080
performing a song like whistle.
And then it actually happened.

665
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,760
I was like, well, I stand
correct.

666
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,880
Oh yeah, they are.
I won't.

667
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,320
Fight Anyone who says their
favorite non Darren Warbler song

668
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,760
isn't whistled.
These are these are Glee on the

669
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600
rocks opinions that we will die
by now these.

670
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Are Glee.
Rock Facts.

671
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080
These are not even opinions
straight.

672
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,960
We've transcended opinions, in
fact.

673
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,280
The rest of this podcast is
going to be about the song

674
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,800
Whistle.
We're going to dissect it in

675
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,360
nine parts line.
By line but.

676
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Line Hip thrust by Hip thrust we
will explain.

677
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,520
The perfection.
And honestly Speaking of Hip

678
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Thrust, this competition is kind
of the new era of choreography

679
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,720
for the Warblers.
It is.

680
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,560
There's a lot of step touches
back in the Darren days, the

681
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Blaine days, and now they're
like, ooh, they got some style,

682
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,280
they got some tricks.
They do.

683
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,400
I feel like maybe Darren's hip
looseness does not match grants,

684
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,740
so.
Professional Broadway dancer

685
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:35,420
Grant Gustin showed up and they
were like, well, that Stick and

686
00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:38,780
dance.
Dance better than he sings.

687
00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:40,780
Bless him.
Although he was doing a fair

688
00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:43,060
job, he was trying his best.
He.

689
00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:46,660
Was for having not performed
live, or, you know, have not

690
00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:49,380
sung in quite some time.
Like, good for you, man.

691
00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:51,260
God, I would not want to step
into that role.

692
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,820
I know or or.
Any role but that one really.

693
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:59,930
He carries it well, like he the
way he the way he carries

694
00:41:59,930 --> 00:42:04,450
Sebastian just in all his scenes
is just amazing.

695
00:42:04,450 --> 00:42:06,250
Like, truly masterful.
Like Grant.

696
00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:11,210
Really like committed to the
attitude in the swagger.

697
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:15,930
He did, yeah.
And I I think by this time Chris

698
00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:20,050
slash Kurt was having more fun
having Grant slash Sebastian

699
00:42:20,570 --> 00:42:22,410
with his line about like, I'm
sorry I didn't hear you.

700
00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:26,090
I was distracted by every giant
horse team was like thank you.

701
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,480
I know they their sass off is
like one of my favorite things

702
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,560
about Glee.
I wish they had more.

703
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400
I'd really need them to be
frenemies.

704
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:42,960
I needed them to like Will and
Sue, but Kurt and Sebastian like

705
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,680
like sometimes they hate each
other and sometimes they fuck.

706
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,860
Like, I'm just, yeah, there's
just, there's just not enough

707
00:42:52,860 --> 00:42:56,460
Sebastian in general, like after
that, like he's not in too many

708
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:58,380
more episodes and that's really
upsetting.

709
00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:00,300
I mean, I know.
He got a better job and that's

710
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:02,980
not his fault, but like, he's
the fucking flash and all.

711
00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:07,420
But I know I.
Know just get to lead a show for

712
00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:10,700
seven seasons or you get to be a
bit character on 12 episodes,

713
00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:14,580
like you decide.
You just did it so well, I know.

714
00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:20,100
At least we have this moment.
I did appreciate the The

715
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:26,300
Warblers taking donations for
what was it the Lady Gaga Born

716
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:30,860
This Way Foundation Foundation?
Them pausing the show to take

717
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:33,940
donations very much reminded me
of the Broadway Cares Equity

718
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:37,740
Fights AIDS nights on Broadway
where at the end actors would

719
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:41,860
come out on stage with literal
buckets asking for donations.

720
00:43:41,860 --> 00:43:44,100
And it was always one of those
like you knew it was.

721
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Broadway Cares week, when you
saw buckets start coming out

722
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,640
like Oh no, they're going to do
speeches on stage but you

723
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,680
couldn't like leave because they
can see you.

724
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,320
I know, like I just.
Paid $150.00 for this ticket.

725
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,680
I don't have anything left.
I think the 1 Broadway show I've

726
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,600
seen was was a Broadway Cares
week.

727
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Yeah.
Yeah, but yeah.

728
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,880
So my other note is glad you
came is for Blaine.

729
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,690
Fight me.
So I don't care to elaborate,

730
00:44:19,690 --> 00:44:22,010
frankly, it's a good, it's a
good head to Cannon.

731
00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:24,930
I think it is.
Or maybe he was just talking

732
00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:26,770
about the Queer Summit in
general.

733
00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:27,450
That's true.
That's.

734
00:44:29,770 --> 00:44:32,930
Thank you, Queers of Lima, yeah.
I could have watched a whole

735
00:44:32,930 --> 00:44:39,290
episode of like the Lima Heights
Queer Coffee Night at the Lima

736
00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:43,840
Bean.
I know it was like a 32nd scene

737
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,680
and it's really upsetting
really.

738
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,640
Really sticks in the mind
putting my kind of should have

739
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,040
what way over the average it
does.

740
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:56,280
Yeah, so we have Our Lady of
Petrol Perpetual Sorrow, which

741
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,720
does make me wonder about the
quality of the rest of the what

742
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,800
was it Sectionals that year?
If they made it to Regionals,

743
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,880
they made it to Regionals.
I hate Glee's trope that, like

744
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,240
the third choir, is always just
a joke.

745
00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:13,770
Except then they weren't,
because their sectionals choir

746
00:45:13,770 --> 00:45:15,930
was Gerber baby.
And she's amazing.

747
00:45:17,290 --> 00:45:19,250
Yeah.
How did Gerber baby lose?

748
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:24,210
Yeah, Yeah.
It's like not a funny joke

749
00:45:24,210 --> 00:45:25,730
anymore.
Like it was funny the first

750
00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:29,610
season when the club wasn't very
good, so they needed, you know,

751
00:45:29,610 --> 00:45:33,250
Old People choir to be.
But it's like, no, they're good

752
00:45:33,250 --> 00:45:38,760
now, they're good now.
They need real competition like

753
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,280
the Warplers.
And once again in this

754
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,120
competition, the New Directions
gets 3 songs while everybody

755
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,120
else only gets one or two.
I wrote that down OK.

756
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:49,840
So you've you were in show
choir.

757
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,240
So they start out with what I
actually like of a mashup of

758
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,880
fly.
I believe I can fly.

759
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,560
I liked it until I remembered
the rapping that was happening

760
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,300
that I could not.
I wish today he would rain all

761
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:06,660
day.
Maybe that would kind of make

762
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:11,980
the pain go away.
Life was nothing but they got

763
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:14,620
the gun down payment in May.
But I become the old and they

764
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,180
aim.
In the may, me, me, me against

765
00:46:17,260 --> 00:46:19,340
them, me against enemies, me
against French.

766
00:46:19,620 --> 00:46:22,460
Somehow they both seem to become
one, a sea full of sharks, and

767
00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:24,900
they all felt flood.
They stop coming and I stop

768
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:29,420
rising.
Must be surprising, I know.

769
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:31,460
And I was.
Like, oh, right, Santana gets to

770
00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:36,320
rap and then.
Lane showed up and I just.

771
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Like every once in a while, I
remember why people hate his

772
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,040
character.
And I was like, oh God, please.

773
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,630
Like, is that him there, The
most obnoxious I know, heart of

774
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:48,430
the song?
Like what can you do?

775
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:52,910
Yo-yo, yo, he he had to say.
Me against enemies, me against

776
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:54,510
friends, though.
They weren't gonna give that

777
00:46:54,510 --> 00:46:56,030
line to anybody else.
They.

778
00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:59,430
Weren't and I just it felt a
little like punishment for him

779
00:46:59,430 --> 00:47:02,150
going off to Broadway for a few
weeks like OK, you get to come

780
00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:04,990
back but you have to rap on your
first.

781
00:47:04,990 --> 00:47:11,230
Like I was just, but I like the
I like the the song part of the

782
00:47:11,230 --> 00:47:15,240
mashup.
But no, my question as if you

783
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:19,760
are a show choir professional,
half half the club just leaves

784
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,040
for the second song.
It's just the trouble Tones.

785
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,920
Okay.
So I wrote this down, actually.

786
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:29,120
This is a real thing in show
choir culture or you know, I

787
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,480
guess show choir standards is
that you do have a girl's number

788
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,000
and a guy's number.
So generally people who haven't

789
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,200
gotten to listen to our Patreon
episode where I go through like

790
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,360
what high school show choir is
really like, your set is about

791
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:49,840
20 minutes long and you sing
about 5 to 6 songs and usually

792
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
two of those are girls number
and a guy's number.

793
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,080
So I had totally forgotten that
they made the the packs that The

794
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,880
Trouble Tones would get to have
a number in competition going

795
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,920
forward.
Totally.

796
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,800
They didn't mention again in
this episode.

797
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,680
And then they showed up and I
was like, Oh yeah, but yeah, I

798
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,280
did write that down because that
is something that that show

799
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,700
choirs really do.
OK, so we have a factual show

800
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:19,540
choir.
Maybe, but at least it's not,

801
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,660
you know, totally off the
rocker, yo.

802
00:48:22,660 --> 00:48:25,820
No, definitely.
But also like in real high

803
00:48:25,820 --> 00:48:29,180
school show choir, single sex
groups do not compete against

804
00:48:29,180 --> 00:48:32,450
mixed gender groups.
They have their own.

805
00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:35,610
Yeah, so there's all girl.
Well, first of all, you'd never

806
00:48:35,610 --> 00:48:37,570
have an all boys group in high
school.

807
00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:40,650
I mean, Dalton sort of gets away
with it because their school is

808
00:48:40,650 --> 00:48:43,290
all boys, but those just don't
exist.

809
00:48:44,650 --> 00:48:46,970
Well, maybe they do.
Like I live in New Orleans now

810
00:48:46,970 --> 00:48:49,170
and they're all are a lot of all
boys.

811
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:51,650
Like high schools and stuff.
But of course in Alabama, where

812
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:55,450
I grew up, there or not, but
there would be usually all girls

813
00:48:55,450 --> 00:48:58,090
groups and then mixed groups
from the same school, because

814
00:48:58,090 --> 00:49:00,690
you just always have way more
girls than guys that want to be

815
00:49:00,690 --> 00:49:02,130
involved in show choirs.
So they.

816
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:06,610
Have two choirs so like my high
school had an all girls choir

817
00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:10,330
than a mixed choir.
And we had separate competitions

818
00:49:11,250 --> 00:49:13,610
sometimes on the same day, but
like you're competing against

819
00:49:13,610 --> 00:49:17,010
your peers, right?
Can you imagine if there were

820
00:49:17,010 --> 00:49:20,410
two sets of Regionals and
Nationals and Sectionals for

821
00:49:20,410 --> 00:49:23,560
this fucking show?
We had to watch the trouble

822
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,360
tones and also the New
Directions figure out like, who

823
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,760
wins and who gets to it.
Like, Oh my God, I know.

824
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Honestly they couldn't have
sustained that because then they

825
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,640
would.
Glee just refuses to just have

826
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,440
extras.
It's like everybody's got to

827
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,480
have a plot and an identity and
a background.

828
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Like they couldn't flush out a
whole choir full of girls and

829
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:52,220
mixed clip.
This is saying that they no.

830
00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:57,180
No, it being the Cheerios is
enough of a hand wave, and

831
00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:58,540
that's like as close as they
get.

832
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,820
That's true, but I really love
that number.

833
00:50:01,820 --> 00:50:05,700
The the Trouble tones do
stronger what doesn't kill you?

834
00:50:07,860 --> 00:50:08,940
I did.
I don't know about you.

835
00:50:08,940 --> 00:50:11,620
I did think that ending on
Here's to Us was a bummer

836
00:50:11,620 --> 00:50:14,900
because I didn't need to happen.
It's a it's a weird choice.

837
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,620
I never remember that the song
exists.

838
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:20,110
I.
Like when people like, oh, I

839
00:50:20,110 --> 00:50:21,230
really like that Here's to us
number.

840
00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:23,790
Like, which number on what show?
Yeah, I don't.

841
00:50:23,790 --> 00:50:26,190
I don't like that song
personally.

842
00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:27,710
Like, no.
Don't care for it.

843
00:50:28,030 --> 00:50:29,550
The vibes are weird.
I.

844
00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:33,110
Wrote that they got 3 songs and
then I woke.

845
00:50:33,150 --> 00:50:34,990
Well, two songs and a Rachel
solo.

846
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:38,390
Always.
Because it's two fucking minutes

847
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:43,390
of Rachel, and then the others
kind of show up, and so does Ian

848
00:50:43,390 --> 00:50:46,550
Brennan dressed as a vampire,
which?

849
00:50:47,550 --> 00:50:49,940
Always bothered me.
One of my favorite bit

850
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:52,100
characters.
It's stupid and I love it.

851
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:58,180
Like you have to be here.
The the people that they choose

852
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:00,860
to be the judges are one of
those things was like, it's

853
00:51:00,860 --> 00:51:04,060
stupid, but it's
inconsequential, which makes it

854
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,420
funny like it's.
Genuinely funny?

855
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:10,740
Yes.
It was like a what was it?

856
00:51:10,780 --> 00:51:18,360
A zoning committee member and a
Union Leader like it made no

857
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:24,200
sense at all.
Were you surprised about who

858
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,200
won?
No, because the new direction's

859
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,200
got 3 songs and everybody else
had.

860
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,080
Yeah, yeah.
No, yeah, I mean.

861
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,320
No, I was just gonna say like,
why?

862
00:51:38,860 --> 00:51:41,580
Are the Golden Goblets cheering
for 3rd place when there are

863
00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:44,500
only three teams?
I wrote that down too.

864
00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:47,740
Why do they do that?
Like you, you lost.

865
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:51,020
Like if there are only three
teams and you came in third, you

866
00:51:51,020 --> 00:51:54,300
literally lost.
Like how I'll never understand.

867
00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:57,500
I feel like in the first season,
no, the first time they go to

868
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:58,860
nationals.
So that's season 2.

869
00:51:59,020 --> 00:52:00,900
They do a good job of making you
see that.

870
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:03,860
Like, yes, there are many more
teams than what we are showing

871
00:52:03,860 --> 00:52:06,190
you.
There are many more, but they

872
00:52:06,190 --> 00:52:10,030
never do that for sectionals or
regionals and that's weird to

873
00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:11,390
me.
Like every show choir

874
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:14,590
competition I ever did in high
school, they were like 20 teams

875
00:52:14,590 --> 00:52:18,350
minimum.
And at the end only like 2

876
00:52:18,350 --> 00:52:20,870
representatives from every team
get to go on stage and like

877
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:22,630
accept the award.
Of course that wouldn't be good

878
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:25,110
for like, you know,
cinematically.

879
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:29,400
But they could, you know, put,
yeah, just put a bunch of random

880
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,800
couples of people up there,
little clumps of people and and

881
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,640
be like, yeah, we beat 20 teams,
we beat 10 teams, we beat five

882
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,120
teams, like, and then you'd be
actually excited about winning

883
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,440
third.
Yeah, you.

884
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,840
Like, came in third or fifty.
Congratulations.

885
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,400
Yeah, like, that's great.
But no, they make them cheer for

886
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,080
3rd place and it's so funny.
And they're very excited about

887
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:52,600
it.
And then they jumping up and

888
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,170
down like what?
I did have a little moment when

889
00:52:57,290 --> 00:52:59,490
Blaine goes over to shake
Sebastian's hand.

890
00:52:59,490 --> 00:53:03,010
I was like, yay.
I know somehow that's not the

891
00:53:03,010 --> 00:53:06,130
mid game I that I just kept.
I don't even know.

892
00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:09,570
I haven't eaten enough today to
be able to.

893
00:53:10,530 --> 00:53:15,450
That's not true.
Well, our unified theory is the

894
00:53:15,530 --> 00:53:18,730
unified the Flash.
And he couldn't, yes, take on

895
00:53:18,730 --> 00:53:20,170
Glee season.
He couldn't.

896
00:53:20,650 --> 00:53:24,410
And I've I forgive him for that.
Yes, we have to.

897
00:53:26,670 --> 00:53:30,190
We're required vaguely, but you
know, at the end of here's to

898
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:34,110
us, when the guys are like up in
the balcony, Curt and Blaine are

899
00:53:34,110 --> 00:53:37,630
in the same box together and we
don't get a closeup shot of

900
00:53:37,630 --> 00:53:40,790
them.
So, like, they're not.

901
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:43,510
Sitting next to each other
during the circle up they don't.

902
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:47,590
So annoying then.
I mean, we we went over this at

903
00:53:47,590 --> 00:53:51,310
the time, but like, why are they
the only couple who doesn't sit

904
00:53:51,310 --> 00:53:54,900
together routinely?
Ventual is always sitting

905
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:56,420
together.
Or they're like front and back

906
00:53:56,420 --> 00:54:00,020
of each other at the very least.
It's so frustrating.

907
00:54:00,180 --> 00:54:02,700
Like at least they were.
Sitting together in the stands

908
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:09,780
for the performances, but like
how every other little box of

909
00:54:10,300 --> 00:54:14,410
guys gets a close up except for
theirs or I think so ridiculous.

910
00:54:14,410 --> 00:54:17,130
Yeah, it's kind of like when
they do, I think it's coming up

911
00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:20,010
tongue tied where all the
couples kiss except for curtain.

912
00:54:20,010 --> 00:54:21,850
Blaine, you're just like, I
can't.

913
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:25,090
You're getting me infuriated.
Like 10 episodes too early, I

914
00:54:25,170 --> 00:54:27,890
know.
But like you, it's Blaine's gift

915
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:30,130
of like, why do you always do
this?

916
00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:32,050
I know.
See, this is where claim

917
00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:35,130
shippers got a bad reputation
because we were so angry.

918
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:38,610
Because it was just so obvious.
Like this is being left on the

919
00:54:38,610 --> 00:54:41,930
cutting room floor somewhere.
Yeah, like there are clearly

920
00:54:41,930 --> 00:54:46,180
kisses, touches, moments,
closeups where they're just next

921
00:54:46,180 --> 00:54:47,540
to each other that we're not
getting.

922
00:54:47,540 --> 00:54:51,780
What the fuck is that?
I mean I could say what I think.

923
00:54:54,180 --> 00:55:00,300
I mean when to let us in, I, I.
Mean like maybe on Patreon we

924
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,180
can say what we did subscribe to
our Patreon.

925
00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:08,820
Subscribe for 50 minutes of us
complaining as to why Curt and

926
00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:11,340
Blaine don't get the same
physical affection on Glee.

927
00:55:12,060 --> 00:55:14,340
Subscribed longer than that.
I feel like that's conservative.

928
00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:18,660
That would be.
A four part episode, season by

929
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:20,020
season.
Well, yeah.

930
00:55:20,020 --> 00:55:21,500
It would be.
It would be like, here's what

931
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:26,100
happens in 2009 to 2010, and
then here's 2011, 12 and then

932
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:29,460
1314 and then like 14 onwards.
Because there's very little to

933
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:31,420
go on.
Like, I remember the moment we

934
00:55:31,420 --> 00:55:35,820
got nine kisses to fill up a
gift set, and it was huge, yeah.

935
00:55:36,140 --> 00:55:40,300
Yeah, took six years.
It took, like, literally until,

936
00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:48,300
like, season four or five.
It's fine, terrible.

937
00:55:55,340 --> 00:55:58,620
Yep, but what's the vampire's
name?

938
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:50,340
But Congrats to the New
Directions.

939
00:55:50,340 --> 00:55:53,460
I guess.
The New Directions New.

940
00:55:59,180 --> 00:56:00,580
I wrote it down.
I was like.

941
00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:02,540
I don't pay that much attention,
although I did like I thought it

942
00:56:02,540 --> 00:56:04,420
was so ridiculous.
I.

943
00:56:04,420 --> 00:56:08,540
Like Sugar going up to hug him.
She was so excited in the sand.

944
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:11,500
Spend Googles.
Spend Googles.

945
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:16,900
That's it.
It reminded me of the time.

946
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:22,180
It was like southern Ohio's
favorite party clown, Mr.

947
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:25,380
Niggles or whatever He was
similar, similar vibes.

948
00:56:28,260 --> 00:56:31,020
But yeah, I guess Congrats,
they're going to the Nationals

949
00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:35,900
or whatever.
And that's our attitude about

950
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:38,540
it.
It just felt so anticlimactic,

951
00:56:38,540 --> 00:56:40,900
you know, it's like, well, you
said you were gonna win and then

952
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:44,340
you did OK, That's like not even
the most important part of this

953
00:56:44,340 --> 00:56:45,620
episode, you know?
And it.

954
00:56:45,620 --> 00:56:48,820
Also doesn't have any.
It doesn't mean that like it, it

955
00:56:48,820 --> 00:56:50,260
didn't have anything to do with
the wedding.

956
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:51,660
Like, well, if we win, we'll get
married.

957
00:56:51,660 --> 00:56:55,340
But if we don't win, we have to
focus on something else.

958
00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:58,900
Like, well, this just didn't
matter just to get into the

959
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:03,010
wedding here, right?
Oh, before we get into the

960
00:57:03,010 --> 00:57:05,730
wedding we did for we forgot
Curtin Blaine, walking down the

961
00:57:05,730 --> 00:57:07,250
hallway and holding hand in
hand.

962
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:13,810
One of my favorite moments.
So cute, Vine says.

963
00:57:13,810 --> 00:57:16,130
Hey, for Bray, looking good and
she says.

964
00:57:16,970 --> 00:57:18,370
Thanks, boys.
Thanks boys.

965
00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:22,330
So cute.
And then the.

966
00:57:22,330 --> 00:57:25,890
Episode ends there and then
that's it.

967
00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:28,090
Everybody's happy.
I think that's it.

968
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,920
But no, they they're going to
get married at the justice of

969
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,360
the peace.
The parents fully agree that

970
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,200
it's a terrible fucking idea and
yet do absolutely nothing to

971
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,280
stop it because they're
spineless.

972
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,480
Sue tells Mr. Hsu that she's
pregnant, offers to help win

973
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,800
nationals, and all of this
happens in like 5 minutes.

974
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,560
Oh no, there's more to Kurt goes
to visit Dave at the hospital

975
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,080
before the wedding somehow, even
though the wedding was supposed

976
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,000
to be right after Regionals.
The fuck.

977
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Yeah, yeah.
He somehow changes, goes to

978
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,240
visit Dave, has a heart to
heart, and then changes into a

979
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,560
suit to go to the justice of the
peace.

980
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,000
Somehow they're all waiting for
Quinn.

981
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,880
And I'm like, how is that
possible, yo?

982
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,800
Just chilling.
I want to.

983
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,400
Know how far Quinn lives.
So the the performance was at

984
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,030
McKinley.
The justice of the peace has to

985
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:30,270
be downtown at least, right?
Like if you're saying it's it's

986
00:58:30,430 --> 00:58:34,350
the city City Hall, it's going
to be in downtown Lima.

987
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:38,870
Or I am guessing if there is a
downtown Lima.

988
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:42,270
But Quinn is out driving in like
country back roads.

989
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:45,670
Well, welcome to living in a
rural place growing up.

990
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:48,350
Like, where?
Where is she going?

991
00:58:49,790 --> 00:58:53,910
All right, well, she's on her
way.

992
00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:58,970
To the wedding that's not
getting postponed by the

993
00:58:58,970 --> 00:59:00,130
parents.
Oh, just did.

994
00:59:00,130 --> 00:59:01,930
Just thought I'd throw that one
in there real quick.

995
00:59:01,930 --> 00:59:08,290
The title and it's the text.
And now, excuse me, I was gonna

996
00:59:08,290 --> 00:59:12,490
say, I do find just the Misters
Berry.

997
00:59:12,490 --> 00:59:14,450
Such a joy.
I did like that.

998
00:59:14,450 --> 00:59:18,850
They had that little scene at
the end where they're like last

999
00:59:18,850 --> 00:59:21,570
ditch effort trying to stall the
wedding.

1000
00:59:23,170 --> 00:59:25,370
I thought that was very cute
seizure part.

1001
00:59:25,690 --> 00:59:26,770
Yeah.
New plan.

1002
00:59:27,370 --> 00:59:29,170
I'm gonna fake an epileptic
seizure.

1003
00:59:29,290 --> 00:59:32,130
You are not an epileptic.
That's where I'm gonna fake it.

1004
00:59:34,770 --> 00:59:36,170
Yeah, and he's like, oh, he
says.

1005
00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:39,530
I don't drive.
I'll be like Leroy drive, Leroy,

1006
00:59:39,770 --> 00:59:43,050
I don't drive.
I was like, that's such a a gay

1007
00:59:43,090 --> 00:59:44,090
trope.
He's cute.

1008
00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:48,450
I just like that Leroy is
sitting there with nothing to

1009
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:49,930
say.
Like, he can't even believe he's

1010
00:59:50,010 --> 00:59:51,810
there.
He's just there for moral

1011
00:59:51,810 --> 00:59:53,190
support.
Yeah.

1012
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:58,470
It was interesting how much
Carol was chill about the whole

1013
00:59:58,470 --> 01:00:01,950
thing.
More so than the others I feel

1014
01:00:01,950 --> 01:00:03,790
like.
They just needed one parent to

1015
01:00:03,790 --> 01:00:08,190
be right a little more loose on
it, Yeah.

1016
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:11,590
I'm just so surprised that none
of them fucking said anything to

1017
01:00:11,590 --> 01:00:12,950
their kids, like they're still
children.

1018
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:14,150
I.
Know.

1019
01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:19,830
Like even 18 I mean.
All you have to do is cut off

1020
01:00:19,830 --> 01:00:22,270
the financial support and
they're going to rethink that

1021
01:00:22,270 --> 01:00:24,950
real fast.
And neither of them, yeah.

1022
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:28,750
Well, if they're not of age,
then the parent has like, sign

1023
01:00:28,750 --> 01:00:33,190
off for them to get married too.
So yeah.

1024
01:00:34,510 --> 01:00:36,590
And even if they.
Well, no, because they still

1025
01:00:36,590 --> 01:00:38,390
have.
Wait, they're seniors, right?

1026
01:00:38,830 --> 01:00:41,990
Yeah, this is their senior year,
so let's say they're 18.

1027
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:46,860
They still have never had a job.
Finn has had some odd jobs, but

1028
01:00:46,860 --> 01:00:48,700
it's not like he can afford
rent.

1029
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:52,900
Fucking just tell them no.
Stand up.

1030
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:55,860
Be parents, Mr. Hummel.
Like there's.

1031
01:00:55,860 --> 01:00:58,820
A time and place for like this
reverse psychology play they've

1032
01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:02,860
been doing where we tell them we
support it and they'll figure

1033
01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:05,100
out on their own that it's not
the right time.

1034
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:09,300
But I feel like the time and the
place to switch tactics is

1035
01:01:09,300 --> 01:01:11,740
before you're at the justice of
the peace.

1036
01:01:12,330 --> 01:01:16,130
But it's Glee.
Yes, just a.

1037
01:01:16,170 --> 01:01:22,450
Thought that feels right.
Like, I don't know when it is,

1038
01:01:22,450 --> 01:01:27,570
but it's before that Feel like
it's maybe at that dinner where

1039
01:01:27,570 --> 01:01:30,490
you told them to go upstairs.
Right.

1040
01:01:30,730 --> 01:01:34,570
Like maybe that was a bad idea.
Personally, I know.

1041
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,120
Oh yeah, so they're all they're
all waiting on Quinn.

1042
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,240
Because suddenly that is the
most important thing for Rachel

1043
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,400
is that Quinn is there.
Like the most important thing.

1044
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,600
They are texting and driving,
which is our second PS:.

1045
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,600
A of the episode.
In case you were wondering.

1046
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,480
Texting and driving is still
bad.

1047
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,840
I know.
We've been really focused on

1048
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:06,430
things like COVID and the
election and like wildfires, but

1049
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:10,670
in case you were wondering,
still a bad idea to text and

1050
01:02:10,670 --> 01:02:18,950
drive and she gets T boned by an
oncoming truck or by a I guess

1051
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:20,430
she's going through the
intersection.

1052
01:02:20,430 --> 01:02:27,030
It's kind of hard to tell, but
she gets T boned and cut to

1053
01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:30,510
black.
And I did really love the use of

1054
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:34,080
going to the Chapel.
Over it was it was a lot like

1055
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,520
cough syrup where it was just
music over some of the dialogue

1056
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,120
instead of because they were
texting and not just talking.

1057
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,560
Like, I really need you to be
here.

1058
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,680
It was.
There wasn't a ton of dialogue

1059
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,600
over them over the scene.
I appreciated that.

1060
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,960
I I liked how they did the the
texting with her, texting on my

1061
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,200
way as she's getting T-bone.
It's like that that's, I don't

1062
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,880
know the kind of title tie in.
I appreciate.

1063
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,910
Yeah, 100% like, ah, you did it
right.

1064
01:03:06,070 --> 01:03:09,230
Yeah, the emotional kind of
fallout of this episode is

1065
01:03:09,470 --> 01:03:13,790
substantial.
There's a lot to meditate on

1066
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:18,830
after this one you get.
Through many weeks to think

1067
01:03:18,830 --> 01:03:23,390
about it, you know it's true
when we watched.

1068
01:03:23,390 --> 01:03:24,070
It live.
Yeah.

1069
01:03:24,070 --> 01:03:25,870
It was crazy.
Yeah.

1070
01:03:25,870 --> 01:03:32,330
What was this Aired.
This aired on February 21st,

1071
01:03:32,330 --> 01:03:39,050
2012, and the next episode airs
April 10th, 2012.

1072
01:03:39,610 --> 01:03:41,370
Wow.
March, April.

1073
01:03:41,850 --> 01:03:43,330
Yeah, so you had like two months
between.

1074
01:03:44,610 --> 01:03:50,290
I'm gonna hold off on any
commentary there for the next

1075
01:03:50,290 --> 01:03:57,470
episode, but yeah, yes.
Oh, I was just gonna say, I will

1076
01:03:57,470 --> 01:04:01,070
say I I let the next episode
play on Netflix just to see like

1077
01:04:01,590 --> 01:04:04,910
what they follow it up with and
God bless.

1078
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:07,990
Once again, you poor people out
there watching this on Netflix

1079
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:11,710
for the first time are not
getting the emotional resonance

1080
01:04:11,710 --> 01:04:14,110
you should be on these episodes
at all.

1081
01:04:14,110 --> 01:04:17,570
Because it literally.
You think with a cliffhanger

1082
01:04:17,570 --> 01:04:20,210
that big, they would pick up
right where it left off.

1083
01:04:20,370 --> 01:04:23,530
And yeah, absolutely not.
It's like weeks later.

1084
01:04:23,930 --> 01:04:27,250
It's like real time, two months
later, basically or something.

1085
01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:32,410
It's it's ridiculous.
It only works if the audience

1086
01:04:32,450 --> 01:04:37,890
has has not just seen the scene.
Yeah, you can't go from this

1087
01:04:37,890 --> 01:04:42,930
like, car crash, cut to black
and then autoplay next episode

1088
01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:47,280
into what is a fairly ridiculous
episode.

1089
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,760
Yeah, and then just like.
Even the first scene is just

1090
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:57,040
like average day at McKinley.
Like, yeah, yeah, it's bananas.

1091
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,200
Bananas.
Yeah, and I know that they use a

1092
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,680
guest star to get people to
watch the show because there is

1093
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:09,080
a long break for the season, but
it's hard even even some of the

1094
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,840
songs, like when there isn't a
commercial break between 2 songs

1095
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:18,760
like Jesus.
I know, yeah, yeah.

1096
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,320
So this is the, the mid season
finale kind of works.

1097
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,760
We're halfway through.
Well, well, more than halfway

1098
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,840
through season three at this
point.

1099
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:31,960
Yep.
And.

1100
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,840
I think it works because Chris
is a fantastic actor.

1101
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,000
Max Adler does some of the best
he's done, ever done, and even

1102
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,760
Darren, I think his performance
of cough syrup could have been.

1103
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:46,230
Very differently.
Could, yeah.

1104
01:05:46,270 --> 01:05:48,710
Could have, could have come off
in a completely different way

1105
01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:50,390
had he not been as skilled as he
is.

1106
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:54,550
So yeah, he does do the like
awkward emotional dancing really

1107
01:05:54,550 --> 01:05:57,750
well.
Yeah, sells it.

1108
01:05:58,110 --> 01:06:00,070
Yeah, sells it.
Yeah, get the facials.

1109
01:06:00,230 --> 01:06:03,830
Really good they are.
They're kind of ridiculous in

1110
01:06:04,070 --> 01:06:06,950
isolation, but it works.
Are they just a lot of

1111
01:06:06,950 --> 01:06:09,510
ridiculous?
He's a little bit.

1112
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:16,120
OTT sometimes just a smidge.
We got to sell it for Chris.

1113
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,240
I mean Kirk.
That's right.

1114
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,200
I would never say such a thing.
So favorite songs?

1115
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,960
Cough syrup.
Cough syrup, yeah.

1116
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,360
Maybe we should just go to
second favorite because that one

1117
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,360
is going to be like a given
stronger.

1118
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,520
Would probably be my second one.
What doesn't kill your major

1119
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:52,660
stronger?
A little harder doesn't mean I'm

1120
01:06:57,540 --> 01:07:10,980
lonely when I'm alone doesn't
mean I'm lonely.

1121
01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:15,660
Because I love the trouble
tones, but.

1122
01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:17,780
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with.
Glad you came.

1123
01:07:17,860 --> 01:07:19,100
Also good.
Yeah.

1124
01:07:19,220 --> 01:07:20,540
Glad you came.
That makes.

1125
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:26,140
Sense any favorite lines?
Yes, I'm trying to find it.

1126
01:07:26,140 --> 01:07:27,860
Where did I write it down?
Ohh.

1127
01:07:28,020 --> 01:07:30,300
My favorite is Rachel comes up
to finish.

1128
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:32,060
She says.
I want to get married now and

1129
01:07:32,060 --> 01:07:33,260
he's.
I have chance.

1130
01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:39,180
So good.
I just got classic Finn.

1131
01:07:41,060 --> 01:07:43,690
Yep.
Mandy, do you have a favorite

1132
01:07:43,690 --> 01:07:47,010
line I?
Didn't write it down well?

1133
01:07:47,890 --> 01:07:49,490
Assume it's something Sebastian
says.

1134
01:07:51,050 --> 01:07:56,970
Yeah, the whole opening scene is
just, yeah, distracted by your

1135
01:07:56,970 --> 01:07:59,810
giant horse teeth.
Yeah, I think, I think same.

1136
01:08:01,690 --> 01:08:06,890
Where is our Kevin Mcscale?
He did some singing.

1137
01:08:07,850 --> 01:08:10,490
He got like, one of the short
solos.

1138
01:08:11,550 --> 01:08:17,109
Yeah.
Like a two.

1139
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:15,110
So like a one.
It's like a, I don't know, like

1140
01:08:15,110 --> 01:08:18,510
a.
I can't.

1141
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:20,510
I can't remember anything else
he did though.

1142
01:08:21,670 --> 01:08:25,390
Yeah, not really anything.
Does he give even a response of

1143
01:08:25,390 --> 01:08:27,830
the circle up of something He's
looking forward because he he

1144
01:08:27,830 --> 01:08:30,510
says that he wants to watch his
kids first step.

1145
01:08:31,830 --> 01:08:31,270
OK.
Ohh.

1146
01:08:32,670 --> 01:08:38,350
So I guess A2 for.
OK, some singing and yeah.

1147
01:08:39,029 --> 01:08:44,910
Some singing and a line OK11
whole line our claim decks.

1148
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:49,950
Chris and Darren were working
overtime for us on this one,

1149
01:08:50,109 --> 01:08:53,790
yeah.
That brush definitely earns some

1150
01:08:53,790 --> 01:08:58,149
extra and holding.
They do so like and.

1151
01:08:58,149 --> 01:09:01,590
Holding the the teasing about
the vampire, the singing just

1152
01:09:01,590 --> 01:09:04,550
took.
Yeah.

1153
01:09:01,790 --> 01:09:05,630
Kurt Kurtz Kurt.
And they have a whole convo

1154
01:09:05,630 --> 01:09:09,450
before that, the Gay Summit.
Um, yeah.

1155
01:09:09,689 --> 01:09:15,090
So seven or eight?
I was.

1156
01:09:15,729 --> 01:09:18,370
I was gonna give it like a six
because it's not like,

1157
01:09:18,609 --> 01:09:22,090
substantial, that's true.
They themselves don't have a

1158
01:09:22,090 --> 01:09:24,810
storyline because yeah, he's
going under that opportunity.

1159
01:09:24,810 --> 01:09:28,090
So yeah, like that you get a
six, 6 1/2.

1160
01:09:28,210 --> 01:09:32,250
Yeah, for like the the the
moments that they put together

1161
01:09:32,450 --> 01:09:33,890
because singing.
To each other.

1162
01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:35,970
I know is not the same as a
duet, but.

1163
01:09:36,410 --> 01:09:40,330
Beggars and choosers over here
starting to feel a little

1164
01:09:40,330 --> 01:09:45,490
parched.
Feeling a little parched and our

1165
01:09:45,490 --> 01:09:47,729
coulda, shoulda, woulda.
I already forgot what I said

1166
01:09:47,729 --> 01:09:53,450
like an hour ago.
The fact that they could have

1167
01:09:53,450 --> 01:09:59,170
used the queer characters way
more in the emotional fallout

1168
01:09:59,170 --> 01:10:02,730
from Korovski's suicide attempt,
I think, is my main gripe.

1169
01:10:03,310 --> 01:10:05,630
I even got them all together in
a room at Lima Bean.

1170
01:10:05,630 --> 01:10:09,030
And then nobody actually said
anything about Korovsky.

1171
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:10,830
Really.
Like, it was just like

1172
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:12,830
Sebastian, you're not going to
blackmail us.

1173
01:10:12,830 --> 01:10:14,190
And he was like, no, I'm not
going to.

1174
01:10:14,190 --> 01:10:18,150
You're right, I'm not.
We're all skirting around the

1175
01:10:18,150 --> 01:10:27,070
issue here, Yep, agreed.
Cool, that's that's on on My

1176
01:10:27,070 --> 01:10:28,950
way.
There's a lot.

1177
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:33,390
It's a lot of an episode, but
it's not the worst, you know,

1178
01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:35,510
For how much there is is not the
worst.

1179
01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:37,870
Yeah.
Actually, I feel like I overall

1180
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:41,630
enjoyed the episode.
Yeah, yeah.

1181
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:42,510
They definitely could have.
Like it wasn't.

1182
01:10:43,790 --> 01:10:48,150
I mean, typical.
But I think overall I was like,

1183
01:10:48,590 --> 01:10:52,790
pretty emotionally fulfilled by
the end.

1184
01:10:52,830 --> 01:10:56,390
I think Kurt and Dave's hospital
conversation did a lot of

1185
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:59,950
legwork in bringing some
catharsis to the whole thing,

1186
01:11:00,670 --> 01:11:01,390
right?
Yeah.

1187
01:11:02,090 --> 01:11:05,610
I would rather have an episode
like this that has like too much

1188
01:11:05,650 --> 01:11:09,690
storyline than the ones that are
just like solely filler and

1189
01:11:10,170 --> 01:11:13,170
repetitive and dumb.
Just a.

1190
01:11:13,170 --> 01:11:18,610
Guest star Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like someone just offhandedly

1191
01:11:18,610 --> 01:11:22,170
mentions that Karafsi attempted
suicide and they're like, that

1192
01:11:22,170 --> 01:11:23,450
sucks.
And then they move on.

1193
01:11:23,690 --> 01:11:24,570
Yeah.
True.

1194
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:29,090
It's a really good point, Mandy.
Well, well said.

1195
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,640
Cool.
Well, thank you for listening to

1196
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:42,960
this extensive episode.
You can follow us on the social

1197
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,600
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1198
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,040
You decide.
And you can check us out on

1199
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:52,080
Patreon for what is becoming
quite a few mini episodes.

1200
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,760
We are up.
There's like 19 or 20 posted

1201
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,400
right now and they'll just keep
on coming.

1202
01:12:01,450 --> 01:12:05,090
In a wide variety of topics and
we do take suggestions.

1203
01:12:05,210 --> 01:12:08,850
A lot of topics.
A lot of we take suggestions.

1204
01:12:08,850 --> 01:12:15,890
We are working on our That's My
Ship mini series mini soda mini

1205
01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:18,850
series.
There's one up, one about to

1206
01:12:18,850 --> 01:12:23,850
come be Europe next.
I gotta do some research for

1207
01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:27,010
mine and we need to get into it.
Gotta get into it.

1208
01:12:27,370 --> 01:12:32,800
We're gonna have you guys tell
us about your favorite chips, so

1209
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:38,600
get excited and rewatch some of
your favorite shit and you know,

1210
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:44,200
keep wearing those masks and
staying healthy out there and I

1211
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,720
don't know, Alright, thank you
for listening.

1212
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,720
We will catch you on the next
episode and that's what you

1213
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,200
missed on Glee.