Rerelease: S3E9 - "Extraordinary Merry Christmas (2020)

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Oh my God, there's a Gleek of
the week.

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Welcome to Glee on the Rocks,
the podcast where we talk about

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a TV show that we loved and
hated.

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And are we watching?
Because we love and hate

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ourselves.
I am Emily and Mandy and I'm be

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and I forgot to write down what
our usual intro is.

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And I had to make something up
at the last second, her family.

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I think that worked pretty well.
Can't argue that accuracy

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because no, no, I hit record.
And I was like, sure.

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So welcome back to the Pod.
We're going to date this

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episode.
It's middle of summer and it is

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fucking hot and we're going to
talk about Christmas.

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Yeah, it's Christmas.
Because this minute I mean if I

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had the option to skip forward,
the rest of 2020, I was

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absolutely.
I don't even want to know what

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happens in between.
Let's just go into anxious like

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let's just be in the middle.
Of whatever comes next.

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Yeah, we can happen to be
listening to this episode bag.

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Like I feel like you're not
gonna need too much context

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besides this is summer 2020.
Yeah, I guess it was the summer

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of 2020 yesterday.
I loaded Twitter and solve it

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for the first time ever.
The National Weather Service had

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to issue a warning for a fire
tornado.

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Firenado yeah, fire tornado.
First time in history, the

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They've had to issue a Weather
Service warning for one.

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Wow.
A tornado made from fire?

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We're number one.
We're number one.

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Every month of 2020 brings new
Horrors.

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Maybe the fire tornado will eat
the murder Hornets though.

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Like maybe, maybe it'll kill
their nest and we can take to

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off the list at once.
I mean that would be okay, but

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on the Other hand, the we really
want to know what's going to

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replace it.
No but now I'm just thinking of

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flaming murder Hornets.
I can't because group that that

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they would just modify
themselves.

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Yeah.
Answer.

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Like immune to microwaves, the
Hornets would be immune to the

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fire.
They would just carry it with

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them, it would make them
stronger.

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It's gonna say speaking of
things, you can't kill with

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microwaves, believe it would
die.

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So technically did But it's
still alive and all of it.

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Kiara fighting Frankenstein's
monster, just slowly

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resurrecting with nuts and bolts
and Patch together pieces.

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The body of a good show, the
head of a bull shit show.

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So so this is season 3 episode 9
extraordinary, Merry Christmas

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which is a title I will always
hate so much and when we get to

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talking about the song
extraordinary Merry Christmas

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maybe be can complain more
accurately.

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But the phrasing of these words
in a song, hmm is he Angry.

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It's a horrible song.
Yep.

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Anyways, so in case you have
forgotten this episode, which

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I'm sorry if you have, because
it's kind of fun.

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This is the summary after
sectionals the trouble tones are

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part of the new directions.
Once again, meanwhile Sue

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attempts to recruit homeless
shelter, volunteers for

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Christmas hoping to get the Glee
Club.

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That's a sentence that really
doesn't make any sense.

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They happily agree.
Free.

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But when the Glee Club is asked
to create a holiday special for

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the local PBS station with
already directing Sue is in

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dismay when they decline Rory
struggles at his ads.

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It is his first Christmas
without his family and Rachel

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asks Finn for too much.
This episode was directed by

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Maddie fresh himself and written
by Martin moxon, who is a big

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer person.
I forgot that.

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Yeah I think I knew it at the
time but for some reason for

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some reason, Marti noxon deigned
to write for Glee.

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Wow, she wrote two episodes
actually.

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This one and choke.
Mmm.

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So once again which means that
we have a placement of Time in

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Glee, it is now December ish,
which I guess means that

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sectionals happens in before
December.

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So now they have in the spring.
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Okay.
I guess that makes some sense.

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Don't you know you're not
supposed to look too closely at

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the Timeline.
I tried it.

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I honestly try really hard.
It's just like continuity on

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every level like they're just
assuming that if you're watching

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this show you don't care that
much.

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And you don't care.
Yeah, it did are December 13th.

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So it is designed to have aired
around the holidays, which a lot

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of TV shows do so we can't hate
on that.

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Christmas episodes are often
just fucking amazing.

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Okay.
Yeah, honestly, one of my

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favorite X-Files episode is a
Christmas episode.

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That has nothing that goes you
so aggressive.

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Yeah, I will watch that any day
of the week, any month of the

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year.
So when our other podcasts where

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I talk about the X Files, Taryn
do now.

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Oh my God, that would take up so
much time.

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Yes, so this episode opens with
a Mercedes for once singing.

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All I want for Christmas.
Is you and it's it's lovely.

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Make my wish.
You.

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So it's refreshing to see an
episode opening with a musical

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number by anyone that.
Right?

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But yeah and you know they don't
often straight up open and

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episode with a full musical
number.

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You're right.
They don't.

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Mmm, that's probably what makes
it kind of like, I don't know if

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impactful is the right word, but
it's nice when it happens.

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It is nice and it's nice.
That it's Mercedes getting this

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big song all to herself.
Yeah it's good.

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They like Mercedes.
To actually open an episode with

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a number that will solidly hers.
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And looking real cute, too.
Yeah, so cute.

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And everybody looks so cute.
Blaine had a little like, velvet

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Blazer on.
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Well, even a blazer because I
put down that I was a smoking.

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Jacket actually might have been
was like, where does this holler

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17 year old boy in Ohio.
Get a velvet smoking jacket

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Cooper.
I'm imagine Brothers.

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I was only a little bit.
Miffed that curtain Blaine

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didn't get to like dance around
the tree together as much but

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yeah every couple got a moment
except for them always salting

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you.
This is a theme in season 3.

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It's a theme in this episode to
which we will get into because

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there's a we got a big chunk of
time that we should probably

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dedicate my RAID saving saving
the rage.

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But yeah.
Everyone it's cute.

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And it's only interrupted by mr.
Schuester, in the end which is

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kind of nice.
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More more episode should have
opened like this.

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The very few episodes I can
think of start with a song and

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they're always good.
Whitney Houston comes along the

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Whitney Houston tribute.
Yeah, I think any episode that

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starts with the song is always
fun.

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I think that Michael Jackson
tribute started with a song.

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I feel like that was underused.
They almost always end with a

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song but is rare that they start
with a song.

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So yeah which is funny for a
musical show.

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You want to like start with a
bang.

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Yeah but I guess it is one of
those where they save it.

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So we enjoy it more.
It's term because you know, we

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hate it.
Otherwise we would just hate it.

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My god dammit.
Another fucking song.

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Now, if they're a group number
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caveat because there's
definitely one that opens with

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Rachel singing.
Jason mraz's, I won't give up

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and fuck that.
I've mentioned that at least

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once before on the Pod and I
know what episode that's in and

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I'm gonna mention it like three
more times, but that's fine.

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It's going to be, I am now.
How many times can I mention?

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How much I hate?
I won't give up.

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I understand I have those
feelings about other things.

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Yeah.
So this is when shoo shoo Sue

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comes in to ask the Glee Club
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I thought that she would like
them to sing at the homeless

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shelter where she volunteers at
to help distract her from the

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emotions of Christmas.
Without her sister.

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Yeah, right.
I appreciate anytime soon is

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humanized without it being a
episode of the week.

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Like, remember guys who has
feelings, this felt a little

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more realistic that she might
hide that she goes and

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volunteers at a homeless
shelter, this episode did, like

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make me realize that.
Well, I like I don't mind how

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they used Sue in it.
They're like other characters.

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That it would have made more
sense for them to, like, be

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planning something for like a
homeless shelter, like, it could

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have been mistaking or
something, but the episode would

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have been nearly as good without
Sue's humor, that was like a

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backbone through the episode.
Yes, I would like and not the

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full on humor, but I don't know.
Just seems where she could have

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been calling every character
different name.

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Yes, there were some good soup
nicknames in here.

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It was I wrote down Wheels,
porcelain and other gay.

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Yeah.
And then Global health Us,

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followed by stumbles gelfling
and young Beretta, which I was.

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And I remember the fandom
pointing out that blade was

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quite happy with his nickname,
but this is the only.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, part of me was like, is

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that just because Ryan Murphy
doesn't want to call Darrin a

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name?
Because this is this is like

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right in the heat of Darren's
rise on the scale.

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So not that it's not that I'm
always like well that's only

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happening because Ryan Murphy's
got it hard up, but, you know,

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So for Sue to point that out, I
was like but she really call him

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that but I don't care because
it's funny.

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Yeah.
And this episode as most

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Christmas episodes do required
some suspension of disbelief?

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Oh, a little characters would
act.

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Yes.
Because in the end, some of

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these, some of these people are
real shitty up until the end.

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Yeah.
You know, we kind of kick right

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off within Rachel.
A number of presents from her

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High School.
Unemployed boyfriend.

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Finn, holy crap, I'm dating.
Kim Kardashian.

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Rachel is in fact, Jewish.
And I mean, which I had a

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bizarre, not the same thing, no
one mentions that she is Jewish

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until no last 30 seconds of the
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No one mentioned the word
Hanukkah, 30 seconds of the nope

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not at all.
And you know Hanukkah and

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Christmas are not synonymous.
They don't have the same meaning

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but you know what, she even
celebrate Christmas or is it

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just that she wants to demand
presence and if That's the

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thing.
Like Jesus has she been this

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materialistic and other
episodes?

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I feel like this is the
strongest.

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It's a character trait that
definitely comes and goes yeah,

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along with her veganism.
Yes.

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Yes.
The veganism returned here

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because she didn't like the gift
of a pig that feeds an entire

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family or something like it.
Yeah.

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I mean, I mean I so my initial
reaction to the gift of the pig

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is like, No, I I tend to sponsor
like an animal at a rescue for a

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year, you know, like I do that
because I find those kind of

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things more meaningful to me.
So if someone was like here, I

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sponsored a pig that will help a
family who is in need, eat.

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I don't, I don't think I'd be
pissed about it, about gone.

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Oh, that's nice.
Yeah.

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Like no, you're right.
I don't need a, I don't need

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earrings.
That's nice.

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I almost couldn't.
Couldn't tell if the show was

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trying to make it seem like, oh,
that got an awful present or oh,

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Rachel is awful for how she's
reacting like I couldn't tell

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either.
I think the second one just

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because she like changes her
mind later on, but then again it

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also gives her a different
present later on.

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So but it's not one of the
things from her list, I don't

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think because they mentioned
like spray tan and teeth

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whitening, which I thought was
fucking hilarious and probably a

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dig at Lea Michele called.
Yeah, she does throw out a line

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of like well where's my bling?
So there is some but it's it's

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not like the gold star necklace
that would almost be more like.

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Yeah, that's her whole thing is
the gold star necklace that she

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wore in the first Susan.
Right.

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Oh yeah, I remember her gold
star thing.

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We haven't talked about that
from season one.

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I remember really does it, but
that's why we're here, what you

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remember?
But yeah, I just, I don't know

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that that that made sense to me
as a character trait.

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Just because it's a Christmas
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materialistic nightmare, right?
Because I guess that's the moral

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of the episode is that like you
don't need material things.

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Things you should give back and
do you know, it's more about the

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thought than the thing?
Because, actually come through

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all the storylines.
Who are they trying to prove

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that to, I think we've known
that for quite some time.

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That Christmas isn't about the
gifts, but about the time you

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spend with others like no, it's
about materialism.

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Let's not be.
Yeah, it's not.

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Can I do isn't still a thing.
It didn't feel like that was a

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Glee thing to felt.
Like maybe there was another

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point he could have tried to
make Other than capitalism bad.

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Well, I guess the the last year,
what Tina brings it up?

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Like, oh last year, we were the
Island of Misfit Toys.

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So I guess it's like don't
worry.

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The Glee Club is on feels like
they're on top of the world

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because they won sectionals, but
they're still good people.

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They haven't gotten big hats
about it.

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We know their check.
They're going to be losers later

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again.
We know how this works.

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That's right.
Gotta bring right back down.

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I did appreciate the reference
to Artis lives.

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Bless the writer because like
they did bring in a lot of

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things that you know like they
remembered that Sue sister died.

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They remember the last year's
Christmas episode amazing.

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I mean it's almost like when you
have a writer who has worked on

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a long-running show that ties
together storylines and thematic

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elements throughout the series
Arc is weird.

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How weird like that's that's a
theory.

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Yeah do you know Marti noxon
would have had to have watched

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ugly to pull?
Those references, unless someone

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else in the writers room is
like, I don't know how many

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people were in the Glee's writer
broom like there, could have

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been a writer's assistant who
was like, Hey there was this

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Christmas episode last year were
already could walk now.

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I think I want to believe that
they were just a big fan of

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Glee.
I'm already was just like, no

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we're gonna I'm just gonna watch
him all over again.

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I like that.
I'll go with that.

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That's nice.
That's always what I think when

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I see these like one offered to
off Riders, I'm like oh my God,

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they're the Gleek of the A week
at the click of the week.

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Maybe that's the title of the
episode is Marti noxon Gleek of

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the week.
I like it.

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That won't screw up the
algorithm at all.

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I am.
I'm going to say, I just did a

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quick look through Marti noxon,
Twitter account.

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She watched ugly.
Okay, go, she very regularly

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tweeted about Glee episodes, a
couple of years before she was

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writing on it.
So what I'm getting is we have

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to add to our indices, who is
the Glee Club?

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Week.
It's just always Marti noxon,

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it's always morning.
We could we just add her when we

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post this like hey can we want
to talk about this episode maybe

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for like well special?
Yeah apparently in June she

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tweeted something about Glee and
working with that actors.

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Hmm what she went back and later
deleted because of the phrasing

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was confusing people.
She meant Bad actors as in

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people who took back actions,
not Not unskilled in the

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profession of acting.
Uh-huh.

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But now I'm curious as to who
the Bad actors in.

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Like, her frame of reference was
ugly.

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Yeah, he put this in June of
2020.

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So interested.
She also says she was on the

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show for one season and only
part-time, right?

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The, this must have been around
the time of the Leah.

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Think she's at the crew was
fantastic.

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But when the bullies are allowed
to act that way, there's a

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culture that permits it.
So she thankfully confirmed

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there were Some shitty people
working on as if that wasn't

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obvious but I do appreciate the
confirmation by someone like

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her.
Yeah, not that Buffy was

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perfect.
You know what I mean?

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But like It was a more cohesive
show for sure.

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Yep.
Not the Joss Whedon had anything

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to do with that.
No.

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Our next mini episode is how
much Joss Whedon sucks.

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I've a good one actually.
Oh, I just found the page six

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article.
Basically, I think her tweet

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said that male actors were as
bad as Lea Michele.

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Whoo.
So there's a page six article

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about it.
All right.

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Maybe we'll link that in the
show notes.

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Yeah yeah.
Alright so that's all for

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homework.
That probably should have been

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done before we started
recording.

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Well you know that's fast and
loose Is How We Roll.

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Yeah.
Just like the script said

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organic, you know, Yeah, it's
Wales.

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That's that's the reference.
I was me.

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But um, So, the episode part of
the one, I think storyline that

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they wanted to be more
heartfelt, was that exchange

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student?
Rory, who is only in the show to

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sing solos because I think
that's what he was contractually

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obligated to do by winning.
The Glee project sings Blue

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Christmas to his family because
he is home sick and this is his

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first Christmas without him
without them.

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I just don't care.
Oh yeah, I had it right up.

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Yeah, there is the part right
before he sings the clay moment.

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We're boys.
Like, I wanted to dedicate this

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song to them and to the king and
Curt says Jesus.

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No, yeah, that was.
That was cute.

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I appreciated that.
I did think that it was in

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character for Sam to offer them
to take Rory home.

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Home for the holidays, which
sounds a little like a lifetime

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original movie I watched.
But that's their Christmas.

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Special is like, oh, you don't
have your family for Christmas.

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You can come home to mind and
then they get married at the end

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of the show, probably at a
coffee shop.

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So I, since Sam has experienced
homelessness and is also living

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away from his family to go to
this shithole of a school.

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I It makes sense to me that he
would be the ones who hone in on

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Rory's feels also.
Just like and this is something.

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I'm forming my opinion on as I
do like this.

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Watch through samsa, not a bad
character.

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No, he's not.
I'm filing a lot more of this

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time.
It's not like, I didn't like him

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before.
I just don't think.

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I paid much attention to him
before agreed Alex him.

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So you think, but I definitely
had claimed goggles on.

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Yeah.
And the fur this time, I'm and

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and like, we're older and not
that much older.

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But it's I think older enough to
be like God, this kid his poor

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family.
It's Dad loses his job and he

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has to work as my exotic male
dancer and he's still going to

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school and he's taken care of
his siblings.

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And it's a hard knock life and
he's not complaining about it.

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I also just just expanding on
that specific topic a little

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bit.
I think doing this podcast was

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helping me too.
Because even though we have

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said, like we're Have a little
bit of light clean goggles going

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on.
A lot of people listen to this

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but don't give a shit about
clean.

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And so I kind of Drew and trying
to focus on things that aren't

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clean so that we're not like
driving people away that don't

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care about no.
I mean, it took me a while to

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understand that people weren't
into claim.

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Don't it's like, it's a hard one
for me.

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It's like when people say they
don't like chocolate or coffee,

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I don't fully understand, but I
do try to put myself in their

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little.
All shipper shoes, although I

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will not stand for any Blaine
hate in this house.

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That's another.
I don't know.

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I hate him enough on my own.
Thank you.

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Oh yeah that's gonna say I'm not
gonna pull any punches when we

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get to some episodes we're
playing Just does shit that I

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think is out of character and I
don't like, but that's not

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blame.
That's Blaine's it going

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brother.
Gotcha, twin, brother.

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There's a lot of male names that
rhyme with play and that joke

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didn't go anywhere.
We want to move on talking about

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the episode.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, speaking

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of evil twins I don't know.
I saw my notes when we were just

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talking about Roy, the behind
the scenes where Chewbacca had

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came?
Oh yeah.

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It is probably one of my most
favorite like enduring things

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from this episode.
That's the whole fucking cast of

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nerds that were on the show that
were so excited about meeting

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Chewbacca was really fucking
endearing to me.

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Yes it's a nice when you can see
them actually enjoying something

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altogether.
Yeah that's why don't you work

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out like hell yeah in the
episode said the show.

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Do we want to move on to talking
about the show and the show or

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their other things?
We can yeah because everybody's

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kind of when it comes in is that
Ari gets offered or however it

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works.
The PBS affiliate wants to do

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special, so Artis concept for it
is a combination of the Star

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Wars Christmas Special that like
only aired once.

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It was a Tory, ously horrible,
and something that is very dear

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to my heart.
And I don't know if either of,

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you know this but I am my lips
us with Judy Garland.

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And and I watch the Judy
Garland, Christmas special,

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every Christmas.
And by watch, I mean, forced my

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family to watch, thank you.
So I really appreciated this, a

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marsh, thank you, Artie, even if
you're kind of a dick in this

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episode is it's a big dick but
it's a great Christmas special,

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it is.
And they also I'm gonna take the

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guess that neither of you have
seen the Judy Garland.

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Christmas special, I have.
Because you have okay?

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My parents are old and PBS.
And any of those we had those

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Christmas specials on because I
was never into the like Rudolph

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specials or the the little
claymation like those creep.

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Me the fuck out.
So so we watched like the old

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big band kind of Christmas
specials but if it doesn't fit

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very true to the Judy Garland
Christmas special and yeah cute.

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I did also like the Callback
that already was a director

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before.
Yes.

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And that he would have a vision
because his vision for West Side

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Story was also a bit different
So that was a nice tie into

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character traits of like his
taking over of something and

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just going buck wild with it and
telling Rachel that her song

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wants makes me want to kill
himself.

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Yeah, I mean I actually love
that song she did but it's

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strictly related to Larry on
Ally McBeal and every time I

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hear it I'm like you are not
Robert Downey jr.

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I know Lea Michele you walk away
from that piano that song

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belongs to one person.
Maybe to Vonda Shepard can have

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partial custody.
No, really.

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It's just what we're Tony jr.
Yeah, but it's just honestly

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people listening.
If you've never seen / heard

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Robert Downey jr.
Do the song recommended?

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Yeah, you can find it on
YouTube.

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It's on like every Christmas
playlist.

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I have like I have literally
ripped the audio from a YouTube

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video to put it on - so yes.
The, the special and Artis

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Vision, which is Kurt Hummel and
Blaine Anderson Chic swing

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Chalet, and A night of Noel
coward us banter.

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Which I think is that he just
wants to watch thick.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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He really does.
He wanted some claim fake Widow?

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Yeah.
Sorry character cameos.

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This also says to me that Marti
noxon now that we know that she

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was definitely watching the show
is a clean shipper.

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Oh God, she's totally a cleaner.
Yeah, we got to talk to her.

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It's based fanservice.
Is this what?

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That is?
What this feels like Jesus.

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We never got catered to, it's
amazing.

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The more I think about it the
more I appreciate everything.

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Marty brought to this episode
because we have like Kevin

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McHale getting to actually act.
Yeah, a whole story.

453
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,600
Yeah merci.
He's so low opening the episode,

454
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,100
Rachel being a chef, it's
shithead.

455
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:25,800
Yeah, I mean I feel like she
must have really wanted to

456
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,600
Showcase some people.
Yeah, specific ways that are

457
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,000
very in tune with what I want.
She's highlighting Sam's, big ol

458
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,900
heart.
Yeah, the Cheerios got a whole

459
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:39,900
number.
Yep.

460
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:41,400
Oh yeah.
Super.

461
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,100
She gave she gave a scene to
clean and a song to Santana even

462
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:51,600
though they were both cut.
Um, I didn't think Santa Baby.

463
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,800
It was on the CD though, right?
I feel like I'm seeing was

464
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,100
probably too sexy in that
couldn't handle it horse is a

465
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:03,500
depressing ass.
Right.

466
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,000
So yeah so it's the Glee Holiday
Spectacular.

467
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,300
Wait before that we have to talk
about the travesty that is

468
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:16,100
extraordinary.
Merry Christmas.

469
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,700
I thought we were just gonna
ignore it.

470
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,500
We can accept, I can't become
the only good thing to come out

471
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:58,200
of that song was, there's a
really cute clean moment that

472
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:05,400
made me feel things and I didn't
expect it to But the cynic in me

473
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,000
says that Christmas episodes are
just stuck Holiday Cash grab for

474
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Glee because Christmas songs are
where they actually get play on

475
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,700
the radio.
The most and they had to have an

476
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:20,900
original song, get 100% of the
of the royalties, or whatever

477
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:23,600
you get.
Yeah, this is what my cynical

478
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,500
brain says.
And that is the most horrible

479
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,000
song.
It doesn't even sound go on the

480
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,600
radio when you hear it at the
shopping mall, Mall shopping and

481
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,700
I'm just outright murder walls
guys I don't want and we bought

482
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:41,200
things it's crazy.
You had to go out in person and

483
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,600
anyways um but yeah no II.
Truly despised that song with

484
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,200
everything in me.
I like know.

485
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:57,100
I also hate it.
I don't like the Full pop of it

486
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,900
because there's something about
Christmas music that I feel like

487
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:05,800
it requires a little bit of
old-timey feel to it.

488
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,300
Like I don't know how many new
new Christmas songs that I have

489
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:13,200
heard that I want to listen to
again.

490
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,300
It's the ones that feel old.
You're right the ones.

491
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:18,500
I feel classic like that.
Don't ya?

492
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,700
It just doesn't, it doesn't feel
like anything but an attempt to

493
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:30,300
write a new Christmas song and
some or something that I don't

494
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:35,100
feel like anyone just really had
a deep desire to write the song.

495
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,900
But that they needed it but it
is the cash, grab.

496
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,500
But yeah, I didn't there's
nothing in the lyrics of the

497
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:44,400
song was like, man.
Someone just had some really big

498
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,100
emotions about Christmas.
Oh, yes, the lyrics of the cores

499
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,000
are.
It's a very, very Merry.

500
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,700
Merry Christmas gonna party
until Santa grants.

501
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,700
My wishes does that doesn't do
it for you.

502
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:04,200
And then it's like got my halo
on.

503
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400
I know what I want.
I am.

504
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,200
It's just I don't get it.
How about how many syllables it

505
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,500
takes to say, extraordinary.
Extraordinary.

506
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,300
Merry Christmas.
I can't.

507
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:22,300
It's awful because because when
she sings, it has to be, it's an

508
00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:27,800
extra like it breaks the word
up, I think until 19 stanzas.

509
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,000
And I just Oh, I hate it.
Yep.

510
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,500
Also, I don't like, I don't like
songs that begin with, he came.

511
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,900
And to my bed last night.
It's yeah.

512
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:45,700
The first is I drink last night
or day Dreams?

513
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,200
Yeah, I just there's something.
I don't like, I don't need that

514
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,000
one.
Santa - Santa and Blaine's

515
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,300
dreams, it's a good question.
Is in second, Kurt Santa?

516
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Where's the thick?
I don't think so because it says

517
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,600
a great big man.
So unless will carts but he says

518
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,700
some cookies.
It's true.

519
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,600
No sorry.
Oh God, that's what this song

520
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,500
means.
That's why it's even better than

521
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:20,200
the one before.
Okay.

522
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,900
I like the song now, didn't you
to reframe?

523
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:29,700
I do like that in the trivia.
It's this is the first and only

524
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:33,100
original song to be featured in
a Christmas episode like oh we

525
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,500
can't do this again.
It's terrible.

526
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:38,400
Let's do a mini closer to
Christmas where we rank the

527
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,500
Christmas songs since I want to
get the dogs, the song.

528
00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:43,400
Yeah.
Probably this episode.

529
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,500
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Okay, because I am truly

530
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,700
terrible ones, some really
tragic.

531
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,300
Yeah, they're bad.
I mean, it's really just going

532
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:54,300
to be like every claim Christmas
song and then and then

533
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,200
everything else Things Are.
East Little Drummer Boy and then

534
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,900
everything else.
Well, I guess we're going to

535
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,400
talk clean.
Christmas songs.

536
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,800
The Glee Holiday Spectacular
does kick off with Let It Snow.

537
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Oh whoa.
Whoa, whoa.

538
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:49,800
Now, this is one of my favorite
clean Christmas songs.

539
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200
Oh, it's so fun with like the
big band feel.

540
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Yeah.
But they didn't guns and handles

541
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,800
suits on.
So I was realizing watching this

542
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,100
that we never not never ever as
a strong.

543
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,900
Word we hardly ever see them
dance together.

544
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:11,500
True they dance choreography
next to each other occasionally

545
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,300
they'll like swing each other
around.

546
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:19,199
The choir room barely touching
hands because gay but like you

547
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:24,000
really don't see them until so
there's prom and then write a

548
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,600
wedding episode.
Of like two people in love, just

549
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,699
dancing, just having a dance.
And like it was so nice just to

550
00:34:33,707 --> 00:34:38,199
see them doing that little tap
thing and spin it around and

551
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:43,800
fucking adorable.
I also remember in one of the I

552
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
don't know extras of some sort
Chris talking about how he

553
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,199
wasn't really used to doing runs
and Darren had to, like, teach

554
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,100
him.
How do you know, how much money

555
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,699
they could have made selling
those behind-the-scenes Clips?

556
00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:00,900
Like, do you know how much money
I would have paid to see Darren?

557
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,700
I'm going to sleep to Ingress
call for how to do a run.

558
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,700
And then probably it's only
Instagram stories had been a

559
00:35:09,707 --> 00:35:12,000
thing back then.
I feel like they would have

560
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,900
tried to monetize that a little
bit more.

561
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,700
Yeah, I still would pay a lot of
money.

562
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:21,000
Am I mad?
Yeah.

563
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,700
And I said that's his best
friend at holiday roommate.

564
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,000
This is my best friend and
holiday roommate, Blaine

565
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,100
Anderson.
And we're holiday roommates

566
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:36,100
being, you know?
Nothing?

567
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,700
So yes, the Let It Snow is
perfect and adorable and Chris's

568
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:50,000
like 1950s over-the-top accent.
Is it's a lot of fun.

569
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:54,100
My word, my favorite part.
Christmas is cancelled

570
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:58,900
Christmas.
Yeah, yeah, okay.

571
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,900
And then what Mercedes and
Rachel show up and they give

572
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:06,600
Blaine candies.
Capri pants and know that he

573
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:13,700
doesn't already own the miracle.
It's a Christmas miracle boat.

574
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:16,500
I think it's so over-the-top and
adorable.

575
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,600
Like, they're all of it.
I mean, that's a moment where

576
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,200
they actually seem like
teenagers.

577
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,800
Like overacting.
I mean, Leo's laying it on a

578
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,700
little thick but the rest of
them It's like slightly bad

579
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:31,400
acting Vibes that fits the age
of they're supposed to be.

580
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,900
Yep yes I love that and
especially if you're trying to

581
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,800
to get that Judy.
Garland Vibe.

582
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,700
I love that.
They sing favorite things

583
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,400
because I love that that's like
a Christmas song now.

584
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,500
Yeah, you know from what's that?
Hmm, The Sound of Music and I

585
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:54,200
love that because it's a great
song but I thought it was really

586
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
sweet the four of them.
I don't think Or sing together

587
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,500
again.
So, I can't think of a time.

588
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,400
Great.
That doesn't mean they don't.

589
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,500
It just means I couldn't think
of a time and they didn't have

590
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:10,200
to fuck with the Cadence of it
to get it around, Finn and pop

591
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:18,600
do show up as an trademarked.
Yeah, sci-fi fantasy characters,

592
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,800
that's copyright infringement.
Kids that would be copyright

593
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,100
infringement of copyright
infringement.

594
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:27,500
Yeah.
I'm glad they didn't also sing a

595
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,300
song when they walked in.
Oh no.

596
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:29,800
They do.
They do.

597
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,000
Santa Claus is coming to town.
I forgot.

598
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,000
That's because, like, I clicked
through that one.

599
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,400
I'm sorry I did too, but the
only gray part of it is that

600
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Blaine plays harmonica Theon.
So I guess that's the can stand

601
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,700
and now the Mind plays harmonica
very well.

602
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:47,500
Yes, that's the kind of shit I
loved.

603
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:50,800
In fact, at the time was these
little tiny moments that

604
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,800
suddenly, he has candy-striped
capri pants and can play the

605
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,900
Harmonica.
Yes.

606
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,900
Sorry.
You just gave your sacrum of

607
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:03,800
cannon that just like it's going
to be everywhere.

608
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,700
That is fact a now it will take
that crumb.

609
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,500
Yeah, there's like cool.
Yeah.

610
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000
And then the Cheerios come in
and I love this number because

611
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Brittany gets a whole a solo.
She does, I never know what the

612
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,600
song is about.
But I know it's called Christmas

613
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,900
wrapping because the wiki told
me that like even that is

614
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,300
perfect and I'm going to be like
a little bit of a geek are

615
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,100
because that's exactly what
happens to the Judy.

616
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,400
Garland, Christmas special and
the black random middle of the

617
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Seine and Judy's.
Got these like, you know, big

618
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,100
band.
Titan people bomb in singing

619
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:50,100
Liza Minnelli shows up and does
a total like number out of a

620
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,600
completely different.
Genre with the answers that you

621
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,500
have no idea what it means.
It doesn't fit the same at all,

622
00:38:55,500 --> 00:39:01,600
and then she leaves that's that.
Does that does work for Brittany

623
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,100
to?
Yeah.

624
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,300
And it was, it was Again, part
of that, like, Omar's, that was

625
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,700
like, oh, like somebody.
I really actually wanted to make

626
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:12,100
this work because it doesn't
make sense.

627
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,500
In context and it doesn't make
sense out of context, but it's a

628
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:19,000
little more fun if you actually
know what it's mimicking.

629
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,200
Yeah.
Yeah.

630
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,300
I mean I guess it was Brittany.
Got there, it was a Christmas

631
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:26,300
song.
That's true.

632
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:33,300
So there is there is that to be
said for her so fun.

633
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:36,100
They like show up and they're
little Santa outfits Tina's

634
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,400
there.
Mike is there Santana's?

635
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,400
They're all the Cheerios.
They do a little ribbon dance.

636
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:45,400
Well so dance.
It is a lot of fun.

637
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,400
Yeah, it's show is so good when
it's when it's good.

638
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:56,200
You know, it's not trying too
hard at the yeah, we don't care

639
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,800
about.
Yeah.

640
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:02,600
Like, it really there's a plot
happening in the show and it's

641
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,400
the very general Christmas
versus consumerism as if

642
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,800
Christmas isn't a Hallmark
holiday, like nobody's

643
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,000
celebrating the birth of Christ,
right?

644
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,500
Like that's not and it didn't
have whatever.

645
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,100
Not going to get into the the
biblical portion of this. this,

646
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:27,200
but Christmas is never been
anything but a candy card and

647
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,300
present holiday in the United
States.

648
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,100
Yeah.
So that part whatever it's fine

649
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:38,200
but they were at least trying to
have a through line of

650
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,500
consumerism versus helping
others and it actually started

651
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:47,500
at the beginning of the episode,
with Sue, inviting them to sing

652
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:51,200
at the homeless shelter.
There's the crisis of now.

653
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,900
They have a a this Christmas
special that they really, really

654
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:59,200
want to do and then having to
come to terms with what it

655
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,500
means, when part of their group
chooses the other thing, But I

656
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:08,400
think it's really is it, Rory,
Sam and Quinn, right?

657
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,300
Who go to the Christmas shop
instead, right?

658
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
I don't know that it makes a ton
of sense for Quinn to go to a

659
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,100
homeless shelter.
They kind of felt like they sort

660
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:22,100
of pigeon-holed in her saying
that she's she's getting over

661
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:26,200
her shit and learning to be
grateful for what she has and

662
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,700
not worrying about what she
doesn't have. but, I also can't

663
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,700
really see her doing the
Christmas special and I think

664
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:36,400
that was it.
Like I think she was probably

665
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,200
just the character that didn't
have an immediate lean towards

666
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,000
one of the other.
So they were like, great will

667
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,100
throw her here before her.
She had that thing with Sam.

668
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,800
Yeah, you know.
So I mean, this is, this is an

669
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:55,000
example of like, no one knowing
what to do with Quinn after the

670
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,300
writers could, you know, as a
collective cough, right?

671
00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:04,300
Just failed to have any
consistency with her.

672
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,000
What sounds like she's not in
the Cheerios right now.

673
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,600
So maybe she just felt
unwelcome.

674
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:16,200
Yeah, yeah.
Or or decided that she was gonna

675
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:23,200
try to be her best self, right?
And we respect that we do also.

676
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,000
What song would Quinn have sung?
Like if she had gotten what

677
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,400
Christmas song would Have been
her pick.

678
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,500
Do we think like of the ones
already in the know, like, if

679
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:38,700
they gave her her own Christmas
song of our like, Rockin Around

680
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,900
The Christmas Tree or I don't
know.

681
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,900
It's being a kid you know maybe.
Yeah.

682
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,800
How about the end think one the
merry Christmas.

683
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,400
Happy holiday.
That was fun.

684
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Fun.
We may be like, I Saw Mommy

685
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,100
Kissing Santa.
I don't know, maybe she and Sam

686
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:58,900
could have done like Run, Run
Reindeer.

687
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Don't even cute.
Poor Quinn always always getting

688
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:12,100
stuck somewhere for no reason.
She made the best of it and

689
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,700
she's quickly overshadowed by
the fact that the whole Glee

690
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:16,900
Club does show up to the
shelter.

691
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:20,500
Yes.
So, Rory shows up during the

692
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:33,500
Christmas special as self to
deliver unto the Glee Club.

693
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:36,600
The true rightful meaning of
Christmas.

694
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:41,100
Which whatever.
But it gets them to realize that

695
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:42,700
perhaps they made the wrong
decision.

696
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:48,600
Although, in their defense, they
are teenagers trying to get into

697
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,300
competitive entertainment,
academies, or to pursue careers

698
00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:59,200
in song and dance and maybe
having a PBS Christmas special

699
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,100
on your resume.
In this instance is better.

700
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,900
Also, Sue really needed help but
homeless shelter.

701
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:08,500
Why didn't you just have her?
Cheerios or the football team or

702
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:11,100
the hockey team, or like the
lacrosse team.

703
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,300
I think they have there's a
whole other school full of

704
00:44:13,308 --> 00:44:18,500
people.
Yeah, I wanted to see the street

705
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:19,800
level, don't fear.
Italy.

706
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:24,300
I mean, the drama club and the
footballers all were yeah, it's

707
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:25,300
great.
One point.

708
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:28,800
So the cheerleaders were in the
cheer the troubletones?

709
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,800
Yeah.
Yeah.

710
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,100
Hold up.
But they do show up and

711
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,800
thinking, what's the name of
that song?

712
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,800
Happy Christmas War's over?
Is that what they say?

713
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Nor was it?
No, it's Christmas time.

714
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,100
Oh, yeah, it's Christmas.
It's the worst song.

715
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,500
They do sing.
I think, I thought they say,

716
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,100
whoa, is over.
I think that might be in a

717
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:58,100
different episode.
Wow because because this one is

718
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:01,100
to do, they know it's Christmas
and I remember that only I'm

719
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:04,900
part everyone to terrible song
and two.

720
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:08,500
It's also such a tone-deaf song
to sing at a fucking homeless

721
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:13,400
shelter.
Like it was bad enough Live Aid

722
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,600
or Band-Aid or whatever the fuck
that was called to be like we're

723
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,800
a bunch of Rich ass singers who
have every comfort in the world,

724
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,400
and we want to know if you Poor
African nations.

725
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,800
Who have nothing.
Do you know it's Christmas.

726
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Yeah, like I hate that song so
much and I hope that they say

727
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,900
it's good, it sucks.
They say it was going to be

728
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:37,400
their last song for the
Christmas special.

729
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,800
It's like how did that fit in
with the rest of the songs that

730
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,600
they had picked for the special?
I don't know, I don't know.

731
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,000
I can't tell you who was a
little baby, they would sing it

732
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,700
to the Cheerios who I maybe it's
because itchy was supposed to

733
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:57,700
tell the frosty story and frothy
milk.

734
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:02,800
Keeping the Africans, we're
putting the thought into this

735
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,300
typically, I don't think
writers.

736
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:10,300
There are so many other songs
that goes on.

737
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,600
I do like, okay, I do like,
ignoring the song content, I did

738
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,500
like that.
They matched a lot of voices, to

739
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,100
do harmonies that don't usually
sing together, which I thought

740
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:26,100
was really cool explain.
The only one I can think of as a

741
00:46:26,107 --> 00:46:28,100
Tina things with Puck and fuck.
That.

742
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,000
But like Quinn's things with
Quinn, things with Finn or

743
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,400
something and like Rachel's
things with thick armor, like I

744
00:46:33,408 --> 00:46:35,500
don't remember, but they kind of
like mismatch.

745
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,400
Yeah, people that seem together.
I know Santana.

746
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,100
Sings with Artie, I'm pretty
sure.

747
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,400
But yeah, it just they did a lot
of like cool harmonies that you

748
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,900
don't normally hear those voices
together.

749
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,300
So I thought that was a cool
idea for like a group number.

750
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,200
There's also like a half a
second of clanging.

751
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:55,600
Well, you know, that the best
part of that is is they've

752
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,600
switched scarves.
They have switched scarves.

753
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,100
Super cute.
Yep, I don't know if anyone else

754
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:06,400
listening to the podcast needs
to hear that, but they switched

755
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,200
cars.
Just in case that was a thing

756
00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:13,500
that you needed to know about
and the kids are cute.

757
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:16,100
Like, I mean, I mean they're
just props, let's be real in the

758
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:20,200
number but right at the end of
the day but I did, I did get

759
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,600
some warm fuzzies For a bit
which I guess was the point so.

760
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:31,500
Yep.
I mean, I still don't think that

761
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:33,900
all the food they brought would
actually feed a homeless shelter

762
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:37,200
because like there's not that
much working but that's cool.

763
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,600
Hopefully they already had some
food there, I guess?

764
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,400
Yeah.
And that I mean it's such a

765
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,900
social commentary but it's sooo
points out that there.

766
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:50,000
There's too many people and
they're not going to have enough

767
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,900
food to feed everyone at the
homeless shelter.

768
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:56,000
Like That seems to be like a
endemics and stomach problem in

769
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,200
Lima, Ohio, doesn't that you
have so many homeless people?

770
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,100
Maybe you should work on some
social programs there.

771
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,800
And not just bringing a
Christmas meal.

772
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:08,300
Only.
That had been her platform to

773
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:14,600
run far, right?
Yeah, perhaps potentially.

774
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,500
So at the, the end of the
episode they have learned their

775
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:26,500
lessons about kindness Humanity.
It's the thought that counts

776
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:32,100
over the material yessing, it's
Rachel Grace, Barbara the sow

777
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:42,500
Pig, Yes, she did Even though
Finn got her another gift that

778
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:48,600
they return to donate money.
It was a little bit, it's not

779
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,700
really Gift of the Magi, but it
made me think of it a little bit

780
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,500
because he like does buy her the
stupid earrings in the end.

781
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,800
Like she don't worry I learned
to love this Sal Pig.

782
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,700
He's like I but I still brought
you the earrings.

783
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,500
I still bought you the earrings.
Okay.

784
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:03,600
But you're right.
They do return.

785
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,100
Them and they go give the money
to.

786
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,900
Well, they give the money to the
fake Salvation Army, which I

787
00:49:08,908 --> 00:49:12,400
don't care for is not homophobic
in my head.

788
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,200
I guess the Glee version of the
Salvation Army isn't we would

789
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,000
have.
But in case people listening,

790
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,700
don't know, don't donate money
to the Salvation Army and don't

791
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:25,700
let your parents donate money to
the Salvation Army.

792
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:28,700
There are better Charities, that
aren't homophobic, and sorry.

793
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,300
Merry Christmas.
Yeah.

794
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:38,900
I always feel like I need to
explain myself and I see a bell

795
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:40,700
ringer.
I'm like, it's not because I'm

796
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:42,500
not generous fuck the Salvation
Army.

797
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:45,700
Yeah, yeah, it's not you
personally, and it's not me.

798
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:49,100
It's that your company sucks.
It's them.

799
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,200
It's them.
Yeah, it goes all the way to the

800
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,500
top.
Is that how that works?

801
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,800
I think that's how that works.
So, the other big thing that's

802
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,100
going on in extraordinary,
Merry, Christmas is the deleted

803
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,100
boxing.
And if you were not around in

804
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:14,200
the Glee fandom during this, you
missed one of, I think the

805
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:20,200
quintessential fandom movements
that we experienced as a

806
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,100
collective fandom so what
happens and someone jump in and

807
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:30,700
correct me if I'm missing some
things, it has been 10 years or

808
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:35,500
however long it's been before
the episode aired production

809
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:37,900
Stills went out.
Which was pretty common before

810
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:40,300
each episode aired beeper.
Some production stills from the

811
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:44,000
network to kind of tease what
was going on in the episode and

812
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,900
to get people excited.
But one of those Stills was a

813
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:51,800
scene of Kurt and Blaine in the
McKinley High hallway, holding a

814
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,100
box with a ribbon or a little
bow on it.

815
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,400
And then the the claim Phantom
especially was like, holy shit,

816
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,900
what's going to happen?
And then the episode aired, and

817
00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:08,800
there was no scene from that.
Production still and deleted

818
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:15,100
scenes are not uncommon in
movies, TV shows Etc, but clean

819
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:20,600
historically has gotten the
short end of the Romantic

820
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,200
Overture Department, Finn and
Rachel, get to kiss and hug and

821
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,700
give each other gifts and be
romantic.

822
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:32,800
Even Brittany and Santana.
Get more moments depending on

823
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:38,800
where you are in the seasons and
Mike and Tina are just

824
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:43,800
consistent, but there have been
moments, where Kurt and Blaine

825
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,300
do not seem to act like the
couple that they are and this

826
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:55,000
was one of those things.
So it started going out that a

827
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,900
scene was cut and there were
some sources I want to say one

828
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:01,500
was Gleek out Brazil but
honestly I don't remember that

829
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:05,200
part anymore.
That it was the cutscene was

830
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,500
Blaine giving her a promise ring
made of gum wrappers.

831
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,600
Adorable.
But adorable and super cute.

832
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:25,000
So the cry went out for this
episode to gets released and in

833
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,300
order had it was the order of
operations.

834
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:36,100
So the Box seen project was put
together by two fans who have

835
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,200
deleted the boxing project
account.

836
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,800
So I don't know if we want to
name them.

837
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,300
I know.
So let's not I'll because they

838
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:48,300
they've chosen to delete the
Tumblr and I don't want to bring

839
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:51,900
that back around for any reason
to there were two Tumblr, people

840
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:58,700
who took charge when the script
for this episode, went up on

841
00:52:58,700 --> 00:53:01,800
auction.
Benefiting a charity whose name,

842
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,900
I no longer remember.
So young.

843
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:08,300
A know that came later, the
young actors came later because

844
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:10,100
they did another round to get
into charity.

845
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:15,400
I'm sorry with a nature.
Yeah, because the young actors

846
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,400
thing was another round of
scripts.

847
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:25,000
So they raised quite a lot of
money to win this script, which

848
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,800
includes the dialogue, and the
script directions, and the

849
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:34,100
includes the pages for that
scene, we will post a link to

850
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:35,900
that.
So if you haven't read the

851
00:53:35,908 --> 00:53:39,800
pages, you can because they are
still available.

852
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,300
And it is fucking adorable.
It's it's just a scene of

853
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:51,700
playing giving Kurt a heartfelt.
Handmade Christmas present.

854
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:58,500
Kurt immediately thinks that
they're getting engaged which is

855
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:02,300
very Curt.
It's like it's very Curt and

856
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:10,100
also horribly for sadly.
Yes, hardwood or yes.

857
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:18,000
We don't want to talk about it.
Blaine like legit gives, vows,

858
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,700
basically human, he does always
love you to defend you.

859
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:27,700
Even if I know you're wrong to
surprise you to always pick up

860
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:32,200
your phone call, no matter what
I'm doing to make you cookies at

861
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:38,500
least placed here and to kiss
you wherever and whenever you

862
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:42,300
want.
But Just to make sure that you

863
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:48,300
remember how Perfectly Imperfect
you like the I mean it's a TV

864
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,700
show but he said more than I
said, when I proposed to my

865
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:56,200
fiance, I honestly didn't
capital S speech.

866
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,000
It really is.
It's a whole speech about

867
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,100
promising to love defend
surprise bake.

868
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:05,400
You cookies.
Like it's called like it is

869
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,300
everything that a fiction writer
would put in yet.

870
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,800
We got it from Guessing Marti
noxon.

871
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,900
Thanks.
Marty.

872
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,100
Yeah, yeah.
Really Marty.

873
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,200
So, this was a big fucking deal
and this went on for months,

874
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,600
right?
Since between the time that the

875
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,700
Stills came out, the episode
came out.

876
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:25,600
There was no scene.
There was calls for this to be

877
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,900
released.
Of course, our IB or like, fuck

878
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:28,900
you guys.
We don't care.

879
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:33,100
And then this auction came up
with the script.

880
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:37,600
I sometimes think that Murphy &
Co were like, hey, let's see how

881
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,400
much money we can get to give
them the scene, but like, fine.

882
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,200
Raise some money for charity.
It's great.

883
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:49,100
We go a step further.
We went a step further where I

884
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:52,000
had the Tweet again.
I don't need some well no I'm

885
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,200
going to name the price because
this this account decrease

886
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:00,300
French fans tweeted at Murphy.
Asking if it was possible to

887
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:03,900
have the clean cah-clean box
seen put on YouTube.

888
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,400
Since at the time, they weren't
going to put it on the season 3

889
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,000
DVDs.
And Murphy's response was If you

890
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,500
gleeks can get me to 500
thousand followers, I will

891
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,600
release the boxing exclusively
on my Twitter.

892
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:28,700
The baiting for days, does yeah.
Follow for follow is this from

893
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,700
an award-winning producer who's
like, well, if you guys can get

894
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:33,900
me more followers, I'll give you
a thing that I should have given

895
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:36,500
you in the first place.
Eric fucking stupid.

896
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:40,000
And what did they claim fan of?
Did they said fine fine.

897
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Fuck you.
Mine will fucking do it.

898
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:46,600
Uh-huh.
And they did.

899
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,900
And we did and it was released.
It was color corrected, which is

900
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:53,700
great.
So that means that it didn't get

901
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:59,700
edited out until pretty far down
the line and Lydia's like that.

902
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:04,700
But yeah, it's HD, its end end
of production like this didn't

903
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:10,800
get cut probably for time until
the very end it looks like So we

904
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,700
needed Central themes and
Rachel's all oh you needed all

905
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:19,900
of Rachel's, present mongering.
And instead of this multiple

906
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:22,800
themes, where Rachel was
complains a lot of presents.

907
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:24,100
Yep.
It's right inside of those

908
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:26,700
beautiful heartfelt.
Yeah.

909
00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:30,900
When so, it's if you haven't
seen it, we're going to post the

910
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:32,900
link because you should watch
it.

911
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:35,900
It's there standing in the
hallway, talking to each other,

912
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:40,400
like they are in a private
bedroom, somewhere, the Contact

913
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,300
is on point.
The dialogue is a little

914
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:46,300
ridiculous but like, amazing
Chris /.

915
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:50,400
Kurt seems genuinely into the
scene, which doesn't always

916
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,300
happen and they're wearing
things that became their

917
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:58,200
stuffing about the scene, where
these items like you.

918
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,800
People were posting where you
could find Blaine's, leather

919
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,700
book bag and like his fucking
Brooks, brother sweater and his

920
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:07,700
boat.
I like a lot of this stuff and I

921
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:11,600
think, because people had to
work so hard to It became very

922
00:58:11,900 --> 00:58:17,100
ingrained for a while into
fandom and thick and talk about

923
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:19,900
the show.
I mean, it was a big deal, like

924
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:23,800
it felt like a big deal, huge
fucking huge.

925
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,700
It was really a like you said,
like the first like moment of

926
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:34,800
organized clean fandom uprising
of like fuck you, we caught you

927
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,000
in the act this time of doing
something shitty.

928
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,100
Like we always felt like clean
was slighted for some Reason,

929
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:43,300
but everybody, we never had any
proof like other fan.

930
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:45,900
Other ship fandoms.
Legit to be like, oh, you guys

931
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:47,700
are just complaining too much,
blah, blah, blah.

932
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:50,700
And it's like, do we caught you
in the ACT, we caught you in the

933
00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:52,700
act and you're in, do something
about it, we're going to make

934
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:54,500
you do something about it.
We're going to publicize it.

935
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,700
You can't say no.
Yeah.

936
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,200
And it worked, it doesn't.
It worked.

937
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,500
There's a buzzfeed article, but
I don't want to like it so I

938
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:10,300
won't.
But the numbers are Are they

939
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,900
needed?
Three thousand dollars to win

940
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,100
the script at the time, and the
auction and ended up donating, I

941
00:59:16,107 --> 00:59:20,500
think 13,000, who project angel
food, which was hosting the

942
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:25,000
auction.
And if that is not some Some

943
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:29,000
roof that is fandom rising to
the occasion, which I think

944
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,600
Mandy, your current fandom knows
a bit about that.

945
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,300
Yeah, we do the charity, which?
Yeah, we do like charity

946
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:40,500
fundraisers for their birthdays.
Yeah.

947
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:43,100
There's, there's something about
using the power and the

948
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:46,800
collective action of a fandom to
actually do something important

949
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,000
that.
I think it's overlooked when

950
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,100
people discuss the ups and downs
of fandom, we're always been

951
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,700
Birthday fundraisers for Chris
and Darren that still are.

952
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,400
It's still to this day are so
good.

953
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,300
Which is great because with
what's with the ones for like

954
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:10,900
for Dan and Phil's fandom?
I think we I wanted to make sure

955
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,000
that it felt really like a big
fucking deal.

956
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:20,600
So, what we do for them is
marathon of their videos.

957
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,300
That's a number of hours that
they're turning.

958
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,200
Oh, that's just like the harder
and harder.

959
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:30,300
Oh yes, I make the playlist.
I hate myself.

960
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,500
But yeah, like that.
There have always definitely

961
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:38,400
been birthday fundraisers, but I
think the fact that Glee fandom

962
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:41,700
kind of showed me that, I don't
know.

963
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:46,100
It can be fun when everyone's
making it an event more so than

964
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:50,400
just like, you know, donate.
So we get our head Pat's, right?

965
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,200
Yep.
Which I think a lot of Chris and

966
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,400
Barons, were it was, it was
literally just like, we want to

967
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,300
make Chris happy and like
there's nothing wrong with that

968
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:03,400
like making the actor feel like
the Venom appreciates them.

969
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,400
But also like, I don't know.
It's fun to do it.

970
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:09,100
Yeah, your own.
Let's do it is for sure.

971
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:13,100
And the boxing felt like that.
Like it was for us like, it was

972
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:15,700
preparing to, but it was for us.
Yes.

973
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:20,300
And they the organizers, the
other charity, they raise money

974
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:25,900
for was the young storytellers
foundation, and that got the PDF

975
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:31,300
of the first time sent around.
Which again, that was for us.

976
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:36,200
Oh yes, I think they raised
about 40,000 for the Young

977
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,300
author, the young storytellers
Foundation.

978
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,100
Where there was a duet of Kurt
and Blaine doing a mash-up of

979
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:47,800
you spin me round and Do You
Really Want To Hurt Me which

980
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,900
would have been at Scandal?
What did not had?

981
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,900
I think so.
Yeah I think I used to have

982
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:56,600
copies of these and I might
still somewhere because the

983
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:02,000
other thing that they did was
they had Fick writers put paper

984
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,000
copies of their books available.
Someone donated you can get a

985
01:02:07,008 --> 01:02:11,000
paper copy of thick Yeah, there
was a whole option.

986
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,700
I really enjoy that.
Yeah, I don't think I had the

987
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:16,200
money at the time they actually
bid on much but it was.

988
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,500
Yeah, yeah.
So that's a bit of fandom.

989
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:22,900
That's like, that's the good
side.

990
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,400
Yeah, it's so soft because that
really happen like that.

991
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,300
I can't think of another fandom
who's done such a crazy thing.

992
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:37,200
Not like again solely for their
own means like, hey, we want

993
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,200
this thing.
We're gonna like brainstorming.

994
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:43,300
Warm and find a way to fucking
get the thing to rail against

995
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:47,000
the creators of the show so hard
that you shame them into giving

996
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,700
you what you want.
Like, I don't know.

997
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:54,200
It was shame like Bots, like the
fundraiser, got media attention.

998
01:02:54,300 --> 01:02:57,500
Oh yeah, yeah.
To the extent that Ryan pretty

999
01:02:57,500 --> 01:02:58,800
much.
He still found a way to make it

1000
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,300
about him with that followers
thing, but always, but he had to

1001
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:05,500
do it couldn't just be like, oh,
I really appreciate the work you

1002
01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:07,100
guys are doing to raise money
for charity.

1003
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:12,400
Here's the scene.
No mention of No, no, it's give

1004
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,300
me followers.
I wonder if he still has some of

1005
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:18,100
those followers that are those
fake accounts that people made

1006
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,600
to get him to 50,000.
Don't tell him that.

1007
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,800
They're not real accounts, he
thinks they're real people.

1008
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,500
He deleted his Twitter, right?
So really all of it was for

1009
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:30,500
nothing, right people for her.
I feel like he's done that ski

1010
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:31,900
on.
Yeah.

1011
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,500
Which is a shame because I mean
I mean at least we knew how to

1012
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:40,200
screen cap everything.
So nothing is really missing.

1013
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,500
Yeah, wonder if he's deleted
Andre Reed done before.

1014
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,800
Let's see where he's at right
now.

1015
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,400
Yeah, there are currently.
No tweets.

1016
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:52,900
Yep.
He deleted.

1017
01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:56,500
The remember that.
I think he's on Instagram.

1018
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,500
Maybe, I don't know, I don't
care that much about him.

1019
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:02,700
I wish I could search his
followers.

1020
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:09,500
I would be ready.
This is an egg is an egg eggs

1021
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:12,200
man?
Yeah, it's cool Twitter.

1022
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,400
So so that you know I feel like
we couldn't really talk about

1023
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:24,200
extraordinary Merry Christmas
without Without talking about

1024
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,800
boxing and the boxing project.
Like we just we named a whole

1025
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:30,800
thing.
Like it's not what it was

1026
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,400
called.
It is.

1027
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,700
Now, it is.
Now, it is now an interesting

1028
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:40,100
piece of Glee that you wouldn't
know if you were watching it

1029
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,100
nowadays like if you were just
watching it on.

1030
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,000
Yeah, I love that.
We're like bringing this angle

1031
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,400
to the Glee pod have always.
But that we have this huge ugly

1032
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,900
podcast world of we live through
this shit.

1033
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:57,900
Yeah, tell me what it was like
living through this.

1034
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:01,300
Yeah, and times you would never
know about the boxing and

1035
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:05,300
otherwise so you'd have its this
point you have to go looking

1036
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:06,400
for.
It it's not like there's

1037
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,900
remnants of it when you turn on
Netflix.

1038
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:12,000
It doesn't say like, hey it
besides, you're missing this

1039
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,300
episode.
We're missing.

1040
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:19,500
Yeah.
So so if we include the boxing

1041
01:05:19,700 --> 01:05:23,200
then this episode is gold.
Yeah.

1042
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,000
Slam dunk also, I'm angry that
Santana's Santa Baby.

1043
01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:31,400
Got caught now because I did
something.

1044
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,200
I didn't know that, but in the
early, they have the pages out

1045
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,100
for that, too.
It was set in like, a jewelry

1046
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:43,600
shop.
She helping Rachel shop.

1047
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,100
I forget, I have practically
read the scene at this point a

1048
01:05:47,107 --> 01:05:54,600
while, any final thoughts.
Do you have a favorite song that

1049
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:01,500
I don't already can guess?
Honestly, all I want for

1050
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:04,200
Christmas.
Is you and let it snow?

1051
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,400
Yep.
The say my favorite song is

1052
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:13,700
Robert Downey, jr.
Doing, that's fair, that's know

1053
01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:19,400
that do it obviously has my
heart.

1054
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:23,500
So our Kevin mix scales.
Actually, it's pretty high.

1055
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:28,300
He didn't ya thing, but he did
get almost storyline and scenes

1056
01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:32,500
and he No, it was the the
creative force behind the klaine

1057
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:35,700
fanfic on screen.
So like a four out of five.

1058
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,100
Yeah, I mean if you count a
song, it would have been gold in

1059
01:06:39,107 --> 01:06:41,500
a fight.
Yeah for sure.

1060
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:46,100
Okay.
Go Kevin go Kevin and then our

1061
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:49,700
claim Dex.
Oh man, like I didn't they

1062
01:06:49,707 --> 01:06:53,800
didn't kiss and there was very
little physical contact but they

1063
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,000
did do Let It Snow and they
apparently live in a Swiss

1064
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,900
Chalet and it's so me We do we
incorporate in the boxing into?

1065
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:04,400
I think you have to I think four
contacts.

1066
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,100
We have to mostly ate.
Yeah.

1067
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,300
Yeah with the Box later tonight
with the boxing isn't a they

1068
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:12,600
really should have made out
though.

1069
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:15,400
Maybe they point.
We haven't liked anyone 50.5?

1070
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:19,300
Yeah.
Okay this is not for you.

1071
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:24,000
Brian Murphy.
This is for learning for Marty.

1072
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,500
I mean, the kiss it would have
bumped it up to like Salah.

1073
01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:32,700
Attention.
Don't forget like it does not

1074
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:35,400
get much better than this so it
doesn't.

1075
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,600
I think we need to see if we can
get Marty to talk about this and

1076
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,400
I think that'd be great.
Just like oh my God, 15 minutes.

1077
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:50,200
All right everyone let's tweet.
Marty It's Marty on Cameo papers

1078
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,300
to come.
Talk to us.

1079
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,500
Amazing!
I love it.

1080
01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:57,100
I'm going to give the kid a shot
at what a scale of full 100 for

1081
01:07:57,100 --> 01:08:00,600
the full 100.
I wrote down for 100 ball

1082
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,300
completely dropped.
Yep.

1083
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:04,100
Yep.
It's not even that they didn't

1084
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:05,400
do it.
It's that it existed.

1085
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,300
And then they got rid of it.
Yeah, whoo-hoo.

1086
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:11,300
I've been trying to hide it.
I need to know who's worse.

1087
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:14,500
Ellen.
And we would have never known

1088
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:18,899
exactly we'd have never known if
they hadn't like production

1089
01:08:18,899 --> 01:08:22,700
still.
Yeah, I bet there was a cleaner

1090
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,600
at the network.
Who is like, get that up.

1091
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:31,500
No.
Put that one out there and see

1092
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:35,800
what happens.
Oh, no, it went past editorial

1093
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:40,800
and mumps.
Did the scene get cut between

1094
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,899
the release of the Stills and
the Because that's even crazier.

1095
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:46,000
I don't know.
Actually, it have to, I don't

1096
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,300
know what they're editing
schedules.

1097
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:49,200
Like it might have been fuck.
Who knows?

1098
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:52,200
Who knows?
It's hot.

1099
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:56,000
There were a lot of good lines
like one-liners in this episode.

1100
01:08:56,500 --> 01:09:00,500
What was Sue says, I made plans
to shoot reindeer from a

1101
01:09:00,508 --> 01:09:06,399
helicopter with Sarah Palin but
had the camp and then, but my

1102
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:09,500
all-time favorite because I'm,
this is just who I am.

1103
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:12,500
As a person is like, when cards,
like global climate.

1104
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,500
Change is no laughing matter is
like I think these are the end

1105
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:18,000
times.
Yeah.

1106
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,600
It's so still relevant more
relevant than ever.

1107
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:26,899
It's funny how that is perfectly
timely and yet the shooting

1108
01:09:26,899 --> 01:09:31,399
reindeer from a helicopter with
Sarah Palin is so precise to

1109
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:35,200
that moment.
It's like that reference doesn't

1110
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,500
make sense to anybody outside of
that time frame.

1111
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:41,100
And yet the global warming does
Yeah, it's wild.

1112
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,700
Fucking it was like that.
Now it's kind of like least

1113
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:48,800
thing right there is like here's
some to topical Tunisia jokes

1114
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:55,100
and also here's some really good
as a - yep Classics.

1115
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,400
Wow, I just have to go with
stumbles gelfling, young Burt,

1116
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,300
Reynolds you guys, I saw that
scene coming.

1117
01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:03,100
I was like, oh shit.
That's right gelfling.

1118
01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:06,100
Mandy, do you have a triangle
think?

1119
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:08,800
I don't know.
I can't, I even write down any

1120
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,100
specific ones.
I need to take better notes.

1121
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:13,900
I think hers is just the refrain
of.

1122
01:10:13,900 --> 01:10:16,200
It's an extraordinary.
Merry Christmas.

1123
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:23,400
I feel like just the entirety of
the fact that they did the Judy

1124
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,200
Garland Christmas special.
That's legit.

1125
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Christmas is cancelled cancelled
if only they'd been as high as

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Judy Garland I know Rest In
Peace.

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So that is the second Christmas
episode, right?

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This is our second Christmas
episode.

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Do they not have one in the not
have one in the first season?

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I honestly don't remember.
Regardless, this was a Christmas

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episode.
It was crazy and lovely.

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We would like to profusely
thanked Marti noxon for

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delivering, this unto us.
I think we should, we should

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tweet her at least mildly.
Isn't that what sweaters for

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said to meet her?
You are too?

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Like there was no Christmas
episode in season 1.

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Thank you.
I am always mostly correct.

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They messed up the timing
somehow.

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Yeah weird okay Okay, great.
So, thank you for listening if

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you're interested in supporting
us on patreon, it's Glee on the

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Rock side at / / patreon.com.
It's not an email address, check

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us out on Instagram and thank
you for listening.

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Our next episode is what's
called?

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Yes yes no.
Which I think is a Sam Sadie's

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episode of hmm these fans have
been waiting for those Sam say

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these fans out there, great.
So everyone go register to vote.

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01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:03,900
Check out what your mail-in
voting options are get

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registered, get your ballot,
fill it out, send it in and wash

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your hands and I think that's
what you missed on Glee.