April 23, 2025

(S3E2) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Chaos Rising

(S3E2) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Chaos Rising
(S3E2) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Chaos Rising
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(S3E2) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Chaos Rising

It's a girl's girl's girl's world here today on Pack Dynamics. In 3×02, "Chaos Rising," our intrepid pack looks to attend to two major problems. First, the matching bruises on Lydia and Allison's wrists might lead to something, but only if they figure out the pattern. Second, new character Heather is looking to lose her virginity at her Sweet Seventeen and picks our guy Stiles!

(Unfortunately for them, neither of these scenarios work out as planned.)

The race is on to rescue Boyd and Erica from the Alphas, but will the pack get there in time?

This episode is rife with fandom moments - from Isaac in the ice bath to Stiles and his very long gloved fist (and Derek's reaction to it) to everything about Coach Economist Bobby Finstock - and we'll dig into them all.

(Yes, including the sad ones.)

Break out the blueprints, it's time to dig in.


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You're listening to PAC
Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks

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podcast.
Hello.

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Welcome to PAC Dynamics, a Teen
Wolf podcast.

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I'm Emily.
And I'm Allison.

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And this is Season 3 episode 2
Chaos rising spooky.

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Well, I mean, chaos does start
in this episode.

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So like, it's, it's, it's not
funny like ha ha, but it is,

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it's not wrong.
Am I funny to you?

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Like funny?
Ha ha.

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Like funny ha ha.
This is not funny, ha ha.

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No, it's really not, but my baby
girl finally gets to take a

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vacation and I love that for
her.

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Do we?
Yeah, no, she is.

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We'll talk about it when we get
there.

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But she is the second of the
pack to move to an international

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location where she flew.
From harm, Yeah.

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Drinking in pina coladas in the
pouring rain.

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In the pouring rain.
Sounds great.

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Let's do it.
Yeah, we don't have a lot of

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intro talk because we want to
really just smash right into

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this episode.
So Allison and Lydia stumble

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upon a possible clue to finding
Boyd and Erica while a childhood

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friend of Styles goes missing.
This episode aired June 10th,

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2013.
So once again we have Lydia and

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Allison in the car.
I don't know who's paying for

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their gas money.
No one seems to have a job.

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No one seems to have a job, but
you know, Allison's dad did just

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sell their house, so they
probably got some extra cash

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floating around a.
Little cash on the side, I think

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some of these kids could use a
job to diversify their

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portfolio.
As we learn in this thing,

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Stiles is only 16.
I know that was a weird I was

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like, aren't you?
Well, it does make sense though,

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if you think about it.
They started as sophomores and I

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think only four days have passed
since Season 1.

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No, they're all juniors now.
They're all juniors now.

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But yeah, no.
And cause Scott has a job with

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Doctor Eaton and like who knows
if Allison has joined her

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father's business as a well
respected arms dealer.

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Yes, I she's probably getting
paid minimum wage, but it at

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least is something to put on a
resume in the future.

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Yeah, it's something.
A blood and murderer.

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A little, yeah, that's fine.
I have no idea.

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Style should definitely have a
job, but it just I.

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Assume he's an unpaid intern at
the Sheriff's Department.

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I think by unpaid intern you
mean he just goes and bullies

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people into letting him read
things.

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Yes.
He's like, if, if I promise that

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you can go and organize
something, will you go away?

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And he goes yes, and then just
goes into the file room and just

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reads everything.
Yes, he's making copies for

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himself and for the department.
Under the guise of organization,

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Yeah, that's correct.
But remember this is back in

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2013.
Gas was cheaper then.

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Oh, was it ever.
It was cheaper then.

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I really hate watching movies
that are set before 20/19/2018.

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You see gas at like 220 a
gallon, you're like hey, fuck

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you guys.
I remember that, but then again,

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I also remember the first time I
drove past a gas station in LA

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where gas unleaded gas was $6 a
gallon.

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Oh my God, that one station in
Beverly Hills 1.

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Station Beverly Hills, where gas
was at $6 a gallon and in LA it

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wasn't like 415 kind of across
the board, like it was not

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cheap.
There's just that one station

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and you're like, what are you?
Who is coming here to pay more

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than a dollar more?
Why?

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Why?
What is the purpose?

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I don't know, I didn't, I never
I would drove past that leaving

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work sometimes like what are you
doing?

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What is the purpose?
Or is this like a bragging

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rights?
Like I have so much money like

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what is the purpose?
I think it is.

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I think that was like, hey, I'm
so rich.

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I do not care how much my gas
is.

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Well, Allison and Lydia seem to
not care how because of their

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asses because they are just
driving everywhere.

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There's a lot of driving in this
season so far.

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Yeah, yeah, Beacon Hill has
gotten bigger.

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I I think the parameters of the
town have grown, so has the fog

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budget.
There's so much fog, but we are

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not worried about Allison and
Lydia right now because we are

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worried about Scott and Styles
'cause they are going to a

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party.
Yes, this is Styles's nursery

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school best friend is having her
17th birthday party and they are

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going because Styles I guess
needs some new friends and

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Heather is gonna introduce them
to all her friends.

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Somebody to help get Scott over
Allison, you know, expand their

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circle of friends outside of
those with claws and fangs.

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Get a little bit of like,
normalcy happening.

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So great.
Yeah, no Allison.

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No, Lydia.
They are moving on.

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Moo bang on.
And Heather is turning 17 and

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she wants to have sex.
Yes, she sure does.

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And her bestie, Danielle.
Yes, who we saw.

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Danielle, who has made like very
sporadic appearances throughout

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the past few seasons.
We do love a.

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Returning a returning background
actor.

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We do.
We love a returning background

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actor.
Hello Danielle, I hope you're

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having a great day because this
is who dunked Styles in the

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pool.
Hell yeah.

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Olivia's party at that one time,
it was fantastic, incredible.

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But Danielle is like, Are you
sure that this is what you want

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to do right now?
And Heather's like, yeah.

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And Danielle's like, do you have
a target?

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And Heather's like, yes, I do
because Styles walks in the

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doors like, Oh my God, Heather.
And Heather's just like.

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She found a target.
I think anyone who had walked in

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the door at that moment would
have been the target.

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It happens to be Styles.
Heather is locked in and goes

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right for a smooch.
And everybody's faces are just,

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I know, excellent.
Scott is like, Scott is amazed,

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Danielle is like you go girl and
Styles is like.

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Danielle's like you go girl and
also like this one.

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This one.
OK, OK, I guess.

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Such an excellent little
reaction.

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It's so cute.
But Styles is immediately

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whisked away by Heather, who is
like, let's go, let's go, She.

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Wastes absolutely zero time.
She is like this is the cold

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open and we are going into the
basement right now to have sex.

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Why in your own house?
In your own house, why would you

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choose the wine cellar?
Yeah, I'm.

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Assuming of course, you could
have gone upstairs versus your

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own bedroom.
I know, I know.

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Well, I think it's because the
location that they picked for

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the scene had a wine cellar.
I mean, probably yes.

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And it looked cool.
It looked really cool.

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But yeah, I also really
appreciate that Danielle and

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Scott have a moment where she's
like, maybe then she checks out

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his booty and then she goes, no,
thank you.

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No, thank you.
Which is, excuse me, because

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Scott McCall is a cutie with a
booty.

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He is.
So like, I don't know.

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I don't know.
But Danielle decides that that

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is not not for her.
So Heather immediately whisk

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styles into the wine cellar and
they are getting sexy.

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Where I'm sure it's like a chili
55 to keep that wine.

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In the wine cellar and she takes
her giant heels and immediately

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shrinks like 6 inches.
She is tiny.

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She is so small.
Yeah, onto that cold concrete

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floor.
I'm sure that's delightful.

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I do appreciate her asking for
like clear verbal consent from.

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They are.
They are trying their absolute

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best to have a like clear
informed consent conversation.

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This is about as much as I could
ask of somebody at 16.

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Yeah, well, she's 17 now.
She's. 17 now, but like they

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were both try, they were doing
the call in response and they

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were thinking about it and like
talking it through.

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And like, you know, Heather,
when she immediately gets that,

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like stops and checks in with
him.

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And so we confirm that Styles is
16 years old and a virgin, for

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what it's worth.
But they are so trying to have

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that consent conversation and
I'm very proud of them for that.

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Me too, and proud of Teen Wolf
for putting it in there.

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Yes, good job and.
Although they don't say the word

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condom.
No, they don't, but they do hint

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at it really hard because they
send styles directly upstairs to

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find one.
So we love our safer sex

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practices.
We love the expectation on both

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parties to use prophylactics
like I love.

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I love everything about this.
Me too.

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And.
His frantic search in the

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bathroom for Heather's brother's
stash.

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Wall.
Where he only finds an XXL

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condom and then his facial
expressions and the look down of

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like I guess this.
Will happen.

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I have two thoughts.
I have two thoughts about this.

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First off, what the hell was
that?

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That look, what was the, what
was the, what was the what what,

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what is that trying to convey?
I think it's, I think it's

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conveying, not me, but OK.
Like, 'cause I, I feel I got

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that.
That look was just like the

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director going look surprised,
'cause I'm like, I don't, I

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don't know what you're, what are
you trying to tell me in this?

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What are you trying to tell me,
but he's having a lot of

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feelings about it.
But the thing that I will say

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because I'm just feeling a lot
of feelings about say for sex

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practices in general.
I swear to God we should just

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have sized condoms as opposed to
like the one size fits most

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model like it doesn't.
Penis has come in a lot of

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different shapes and sizes all
things considered and I'm.

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Going to have to mark this
podcast.

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Not safe for work for once.
I mean, maybe, but like needing

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to use a condom that fits,
whatever that means for you.

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Use a condom that fits because
if it is too small, it's all

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gonna hurt.
If it's too big, it's gonna fall

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off and not do its job.
Like, and there is no shame in

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getting a condom that fits.
So condoms should come in sizes.

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That's just that's my, that's my
rant.

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They should come in sizes.
They're gonna have to name them

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like manly, Manliest,
Supermanly.

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I think they did that.
There was something I'll try to

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find it and maybe put it in the
show notes if I can find it, But

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they did a not to do the TikTok.
Like there was a study, but I

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feel like I remember somebody,
something, someplace did this

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and that nobody would buy like
small condoms because they don't

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want to be associated with small
condoms, but that like larges

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and over just didn't fit.
And so they had to like, rebrand

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them in a way where they, the
people would buy the size of

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condom that they needed.
Of course.

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I feel like that was somewhere
I'll try to find it.

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But Styles definitely finds a
condom.

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It is an XXL condom.
And he looks surprised.

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Yes.
However, meanwhile in the

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basement, Heather is not having
a great time.

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She is waiting for Styles to get
back, but the wine bottles have

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started like rattling in their
little spaces.

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They're falling to the floor and
shattering.

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It's all very poltergeist.
There's broken glass and wine

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and shit everywhere.
She's like stepping in the

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broken glass in the wine with
her sad bare feet.

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It looks incredibly painful.
Everything is spooky and gross

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and dark.
She's like backing towards the

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wall.
The basement window like creaks

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open above her.
She kind of looks up and screams

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and then gets yoinked through
the window and is gone.

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Bye.
Bye, Heather.

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We barely knew ye.
Yeah.

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Heather, we barely knew ye.
So nice to see you for a few

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minutes in an episode.
So like, I think my, my question

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here is 1.
The scene is incredibly

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beautifully shot, but it it's
one of those like, and we have a

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major genre shift from like
quirky teen comedy to horror

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straight.
Full, full horror.

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Full horror.
Full poltergeist horror.

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Upstairs in the bathroom, it was
American Pie.

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Downstairs in the basement, it's
Poltergeist, The Ring, any

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horror movie that you can think
of.

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So we'll, we'll, we'll flesh
this idea out over the next

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several episodes.
But like my big question here,

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did Heather need to be scared
first?

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Does that like play into this at
all?

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Or was it just like for fun and
for profit?

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Good question.
But I would like to, I'd like to

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keep that question kind of in
our minds, yes.

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Yes, yes, yes.
Because like the werewolves can

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do all these cool things about
like smelling emotions and it's

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apparently very important to
them.

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And it's like is.
Was it important?

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Keep a keep a werewolf smell
question in your mind and we'll

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come back to it.
Yes, I will try my best.

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So our final piece at the at the
party is that Allison and Lydia

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who?
Wait, hold on, because styles

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returns and there's no mess.
Oh, he does.

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Why?
Why?

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Nothing.
There's no mess.

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The wine bottles are in place,
there's no glass, there's no

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nothing.
Everything is clean and perfect.

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There's also just no Heather.
It's as if nothing happened.

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It's just a missing girl.
What happened?

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Nothing.
What?

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Like how?
How?

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And also, if you think about it,
maybe the party upstairs might

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have heard an earthquake
happening in a basement, unless

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the music was that loud.
Maybe.

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I feel like Danielle would have
been like something's happening

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to my girl.
Well cuz like her girl goes down

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to the basement and then she
hears spooky noises from the

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basement like she would go.
But yes, of course she would.

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Styles is left with just the
condom and and.

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And the basement.
Yep.

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And now, yeah, Scott meets
Allison and Lydia outside the

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party with questions about the
lingering bruises.

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Yes, because Allison and Lydia
are teammates in all the best

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ways.
They are together forever.

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And they were roommates.
And they were roommates,

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correct?
Do you notice that they both

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glowed up real hard?
They did I I wonder why.

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I wonder why?
Allison's hair is so bouncy now.

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It's beautiful.
It's just beautiful.

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I want someone to do my hair
everyday.

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Same.
It's always what I think of when

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I see shows like this is like,
God I wish I had a hairdresser

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in my house.
Your hair is so beautiful.

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Thank you.
It took me 800 hours to do.

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Thank you, someone just lives in
my house and does it for me.

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Well, Speaking of somebody who
finally has a house.

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We've got a new set location.
We have the and then this is an

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uppercase, you know, upper T,
upper L, the loft, the.

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Loft.
This is the loft.

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This is Derek's new loft.
We don't know how he affords

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this.
We don't know who his broker

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was, but he he has gotten
himself a poorly lit under

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furnished loft.
The penthouse loft with a big,

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big window.
A wall of windows.

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A wall of windows which seems
very unsafe for someone who is

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constantly under attack.
Correct.

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Who's constantly worried about
being transformed?

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Who's constantly worried about
like, violence?

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Seems like a choice, but you
know.

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Seems like maybe another house
in the woods would have been a

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better idea, but you know, it's
cool looking.

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I'm just saying it sure would
have made a lot more sense if

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there were somebody else who
could have like talked him into

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this location over the summer.
Yeah.

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Is it closer to the sheriff's
house?

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I don't know.
Is it perhaps like easier and

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more secure for humans?
To get in and out of.

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Like to get in and out of easier
to find.

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And also like do they ever, and
I don't remember, do they say

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where the loft is?
Because later Peter's like, no,

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I have an apartment downtown,
but to me a loft is downtown and

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he makes it sound like he
doesn't live nearby.

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He does make it seem like it
doesn't look nearby.

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I have no idea, but yeah, a loft
really does feel like a downtown

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kind of problem.
Is this the artist district on

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Main Street?
Like where is this?

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I have no idea, but the building
doesn't look like it's in great

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shape.
It doesn't, it looks very.

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Maybe this is near 1 of the
where?

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Who is this near the jungle?
Plot twist, the jungles in the

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basement.
And he's rented, that's how he

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gets money is he is now the
proprietor of the jungle.

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Yeah, he owns.
He owns the building.

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Fick has taught us that.
Derek owns the building.

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Yeah, obviously.
Fannin came.

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I think that's Fannin.
That is full fannin.

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I think that's Fannin, but yeah,
no, I'm done.

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I'm I bought it.
It's I'm done.

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I mean, Derek owns the entire
building.

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The jungle is in the basement of
that building and Derek is now

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the sole owner and proprietor of
the jungle.

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And the betas are his bouncers,
the bartender, everybody.

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Until they all move to Europe,
it's fine.

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Obviously.
Yes, absolutely.

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So Isaac and Derek are in the
loft trying to talk about what's

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next in their search for Boyd
and Erica, and they're having

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this conversation about somebody
that they don't trust.

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I love this conversation.
And it's incredible.

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We do get a little sprinkling
here.

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Isaac's like, well, personally,
I trust Scott.

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And Derek goes, well, do you
trust me?

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And Isaac's like, yeah, it's
like, do you?

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There's like a trust triangle
happening here.

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There is a trust triangle.
Derek doesn't trust Scott.

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Isaac trusts Scott.
Does Isaac trust Derek?

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Derek probably trusts Isaac.
Scott doesn't trust Derek.

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Scott probably trusts Isaac.
And nobody trusts Uncle Peter.

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Nobody trusts Uncle Peter, and
nobody.

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Trusts Uncle Peter.
Yeah.

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I don't like, I don't like.
Nobody likes him.

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Cut to Peter entering the loft
and say whatever it is straight

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to my face.
Cut to Derek we don't like you

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now shut up and help us.
Perfect incredible.

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Peter is there to help draw
memories out of Isaac using this

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quote.
Ancient ritual used by alphas.

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Like, All right, I OK, I guess
we've technically seen him do

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this before on the the lacrosse
field, right?

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And did it before somewhere
else.

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Yeah, and didn't he do this to
Scott in night school?

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Yeah, I think so.
To share memories of the fire.

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Yeah, but now he's doing it like
logitskies.

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Yeah.
Now he's doing it logitskies.

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And what he's going to do is
stab his claws into Peter's

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neck.
I'm guessing maybe like

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Brainstorm.
I don't know how it's happening

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here.
It could paralyze him.

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It could kill him.
He says he's never paralyzed

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somebody.
There is a look on Derek's face

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that's like, but have you killed
somebody?

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There sure is.
And no answer comes.

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No answer comes, just Peter just
shoves his whole claw into

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Isaac's neck.
Yes, we get a series of very

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very fuzzy memory flashes of
Isaac finding Erica and Boyd and

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Decalion, but we don't know
where, only that there was a

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promise made that by the full
moon they would be dead.

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But which full moon tomorrow
night?

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So the clock is tik toking.
TikTok.

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Yeah, So then we've got the pack
gathering at school for some

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reason to have Derek wants,
Scott wants Derek to look at the

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bruises on Lydia and Allison's
arms because maybe he'll be able

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to, like, piece the little
puzzle together.

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Like, what is the symbol?
And I like this conversation

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because finally someone is
looking at Allison and going are

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you going to apologize for being
a psychotic bitch for a little

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bit?
Oh yeah.

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Because Scott's like they're
trying to help and Derek's whole

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face in the scene is fantastic.
Tyler Heckland can really do

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Sour Wolf sass master well.
Oh my God, this whole episode.

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It's so good because he's like
these two, the one who tried to

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resurrect my psychotic uncle.
Thank you by the way.

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And this one who shot 30 arrows
in the me and my pack.

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And.
There is no hint of apology from

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Allison whatsoever.
No, None.

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None.
Not. 1 And I was like, I'd

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forgotten about this.
I just remembered the feeling of

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being angry at Allison growing.
Not you, Allison.

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Yes, Argent.
Yes, sometimes I'm like, oh, we

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should change one of your names
because I feel like I'm yelling

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at you and Allison Argent.
But I was like, oh, This is why

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I didn't like Allison so much
because she's she's not taking

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any responsibility.
And I know she's a wee child.

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I know she's so young.
But here's someone like looking

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at you in your eyeballs and
saying, hey, you did a bad thing

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to me and my family.
Here's an opportunity.

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Yeah.
And then they they kind of hit

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this note again because, you
know, there's a bunch of

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tension.
So you got kind of Derek and

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then Scott and then Lydia and
Allison.

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But then there's Styles, who is
trying to, like, break up the

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tension because Styles very
clearly cares about all four of

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the people in this conversation
and doesn't want them fighting.

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Yeah.
Mom and Dad are fighting again.

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Mom and dad are fighting again,
and so Styles is like, we got

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maimed a little, you know,
whatever.

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But nobody died.
And Allison's like, my mother

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died.
And it's like, ma'am.

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00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,080
Yeah.
Ma'am.

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Yeah, but, and Derek rightly is
like, your family's little honor

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code killed your mom, not me.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And again, Derek's like, hey,
Scott, you got to tell the truth

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about her mom.
Because Chris still hasn't.

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Which I get like, I bet it's
really hard for Chris to tell

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his daughter the truth about her
mom.

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00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,800
Yeah, that is that is that's an
impossible ask and I get it.

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But somebody needs to tell her.
Someone needs to tell her,

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especially if she's still
walking around holding on to all

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of this.
It's not wrong, but it's like

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misinformed anger.
It's misplaced.

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Yeah, and if she's supposed to
be working with the pack, she

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can't do it properly when all
her tendrils of anger are are

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going in the wrong direction.
Yeah, like she's still, I think,

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more mad at Derek than she is
like at Gerard.

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Oh yeah, totally.
Like, and that's I think we're

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going to end up seeing like at
the end of this episode of maybe

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into the next one, like as that
kind of starts to shift.

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But it's like Derek has lost so
much at the feet of her family

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specifically.
And Allison is still like trying

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to center herself in this.
And it's like I get it.

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But.
Also, you could apologize.

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You could take this moment to
like and I I get Derek not being

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not wanting to be the one to say
like, Hey, your your mom was

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trying to kill your boyfriend
actively killing like.

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00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,280
Actively killing your boyfriend.
You're welcome, by the way.

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Because she's not going to
believe him.

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00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,760
No, it's like it is his story to
tell because he walked in on it,

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00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,280
but it's not his story to tell
because he wasn't the one being

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murdered.
Yeah, exactly.

439
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480
Which is why he's constantly
trying to, like, eat Scott.

440
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,800
You have to tell her.
And it puts Scott in the

441
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,600
position of needing Scott like
never wants to go against

442
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Allison.
And it forces Scott to have to

443
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,880
do something negative to
Allison, which he, like,

444
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,480
patently refuses to do, which is
one of his worst qualities.

445
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,040
It makes it real rough
sometimes, I can say that.

446
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:15,120
Yeah, that the risk and reward
thing, yeah, like, but the long

447
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,480
term reward of telling Allison
the truth is greater than the

448
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,360
risk.
But he's for as good as Scott is

449
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:24,600
in this episode of Risk and
Reward, he's missing it here.

450
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,160
Yeah, because in this he hasn't
been.

451
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,360
Given the lesson yet, but yeah,
no.

452
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,240
He hasn't been given the lesson
yet, but he like doesn't quite.

453
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,520
He isn't quite yet willing to
risk the potential of anything

454
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,360
with Allison.
He's just not willing to risk

455
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,720
that, even though right now he
doesn't have it at all.

456
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,280
Like they're broken up.
They are broken up Capital B.

457
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,680
Yep, Yep.
And so are.

458
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,480
You ever really broken up in
high school?

459
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,400
At least these kids.
Well, these kids aren't the

460
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,440
BLOB.
This is true.

461
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,400
I although they're in my heart,
there is a version of this in in

462
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,040
which they are the BLOB.
You know love is.

463
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,880
Well, you've got Lydia and Scott
and Lydia and Styles and Lydia

464
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,520
and Allison and Lydia and Derek.
And then you've got, you know,

465
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,880
Derek and Styles and Derek and
Scott and Derek and Lydia and

466
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,480
Derek and Allison, which All
Gold Star Scott and Allison,

467
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,040
Scott and Lydia, Scott and
Styles.

468
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,520
Like the whole BLOB works.
The whole BLOB.

469
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,600
I'm I'm, I'm here for it.
I'm here for it.

470
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Just as long as people are using
their words and taking

471
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,680
responsibility.
Yeah, and that is a thing that

472
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,200
Allison is really missing here.
And yeah, it it, it, it's rough.

473
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,920
It's rough.
Like, And here's the other on

474
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,160
the other side of this though,
Derek is still blaming Lydia for

475
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,520
resurrecting Peter, which was
not her fucking fault at all.

476
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,200
Yeah, she was.
We possessed.

477
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,720
Yeah, she was definitely
possessed.

478
00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,200
Like, so Derek also is doing the
shitty thing and is accusing

479
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,280
Lydia of doing something that
she had absolutely no part in.

480
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,240
Totally.
And so when Derek finally

481
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,960
figures that shit out, he owes
Lydia a big apology for that.

482
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,520
Because let's not forget,
despite Tyler Heckland looking

483
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,880
like a grown man, Derek Hale is
like 20.

484
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,800
At best.
At best, he's still got grown up

485
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,960
to do.
Oh yeah.

486
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,320
So he's he is not Tyler
Heckland, grown adult Derek

487
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,760
Hale, barely out of his teens.
Barely, barely made of jello.

488
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,160
Brain of Jello.
Supremely stunted young man.

489
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,080
Big trauma, big trauma,
everybody.

490
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,000
Not across the board.
He is not their elder.

491
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,440
He looks like it, but
functionally he is not a grand

492
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,560
elder to these kids.
No, when they were freshmen like

493
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,280
he was maybe a senior when.
Maybe we don't even graduated at

494
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,120
this point.
Like yeah, I have no idea.

495
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,560
So anyway, Speaking of
graduation, we have an economics

496
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,400
class.
Yeah, we do.

497
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,400
Does that have a teacher?
It does.

498
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,560
It has Coach Finstock somehow
trying to teach the stock

499
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,360
market.
Which is excellent.

500
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,960
I really appreciate that he
attempts to the stock market

501
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,640
using the popular drinking game.
Quarters, it's like, what are we

502
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,960
doing?
Just teaches it on the floor

503
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,120
where no one can see.
Why?

504
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,800
I don't know.
Coach.

505
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,400
And he asks a question of the
class and when Scott is like, I

506
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080
have the answer, he laughs right
in his face.

507
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,600
He sure does.
And Scott like doesn't shrink

508
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,960
away from it.
That has got to be so

509
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,960
embarrassing and so hard to hear
that, like your coach, one of

510
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,600
the grown-ups in your life who
you trust doesn't believe in you

511
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,360
at all.
Statistically, he earned it.

512
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,880
But he did, and it still sucks.
No teacher should ever laugh at

513
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,000
you for trying.
Absolutely not.

514
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000
But then it turns out that Scott
actually has the right answer.

515
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,760
And Scott and Scott and Coach
Scott Styles coach.

516
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,000
There we go through my little
Rolodex here.

517
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,080
Coach Styles.
So proud coach is like, who are

518
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,920
you?
And what if you know Scott

519
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,240
McCall?
I like, I like this one like, Oh

520
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,400
my God.
Well, at the end of Season 2, he

521
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,640
was like, I need you to be
better.

522
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Yeah.
And he got.

523
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Better and he got better.
Scott worked really hard all

524
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,960
summer.
Yeah.

525
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,640
So good.
Yeah, so he's going to play this

526
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,680
little game of risk and reward,
and he asks if anyone has a

527
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,960
quarter.
Styles digs into his pocket to

528
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,000
to get one and happens to fling
the XXL condom out of his pocket

529
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,840
onto the floor.
I think anyone in my class would

530
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,040
have just died if that happened,
yeah.

531
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,120
Coach.
Coach like picks the condom up

532
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,600
off the floor, looks at it and
like and he says congratulations

533
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,080
to Styles, which is so
inappropriate.

534
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:57,680
Yes, it is.
Sure is.

535
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,440
It sure is.
Wow, it's.

536
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,960
ATV.
Show, yeah, it's ATV show, but

537
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320
like, oof, don't do that.
Don't do that.

538
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240
So yeah, we go through this
conversation about high risk,

539
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,400
low reward, low risk, high
reward with this game of

540
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,440
quarters where Scott chooses not
to play, which is interesting.

541
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:23,000
And I think that's honestly that
is a thing that I that's, that's

542
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,160
the trouble that I have with
Scott is that very often when

543
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,120
given a choice, he just says
like A or B and he says no.

544
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,000
And like as a person, I
absolutely agree with him.

545
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,760
Like as a person, if I'm saying
like, do you want to take this

546
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920
thing that you're not very good
at and lose?

547
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520
Or do you want to just not, you
want to just punk out and not

548
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,600
play?
It's like, yes, of course I want

549
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880
to just punk out and not play.
Of course I do, but as ATV

550
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,520
character like I need you to
make choices to drive things

551
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,720
forward.
Yeah.

552
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,320
Like I need to watch you do
something.

553
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,800
And so that's kind of the thing
that I will end up running into.

554
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,120
And I'm, I'm so far I have been
pleasantly surprised, but that's

555
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,800
like sort of what I remember
being really frustrated with the

556
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960
first time I went through this.
Yeah, totally.

557
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,320
So.
Be interesting.

558
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920
Yeah, I.
Need you to make like as a as a

559
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000
person.
Scott McCall is like the best as

560
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,120
ATV character.
I need you to make a choice.

561
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Yes, I also wish to opt out
however.

562
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,400
However, however.
I don't want to be in this

563
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,760
narrative, but.
Same and and so of all the

564
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,440
people that he asks, Styles
finally says yes to coaches

565
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680
offer of quarters.
Of course he does.

566
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Of course he does, because he's
just ready to move the plot

567
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,280
forward and is politely
interrupted by his father, the

568
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,240
sheriff.
Yep, Sheriff's there to look for

569
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,120
him because Heather is missing
and the sheriff has some

570
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,040
questions because Scott was the
last person who saw her alive.

571
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,920
And if any of you are
Murderino's or at all interested

572
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,000
in true crime, you know that it
is not good to be the last

573
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,560
person who saw a missing person
alive.

574
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,360
Poor Styles.
Yeah, he is the immediate

575
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,200
suspect because like, we all saw
quote UN quote something.

576
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,880
We saw all the wine bottles
break and we saw her get

577
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240
disappeared through a window and
we're like, Oh my God, it wasn't

578
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Styles, but like styles when
when going into the basement saw

579
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,360
nothing wrong.
There was no There's no evidence

580
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,040
to suggest that Heather had been
disappeared.

581
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080
True.
Well, I mean, and you know, it's

582
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,840
a party, right?
Right.

583
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,600
But I imagine a number of
people, including Scott and

584
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Danielle, saw Styles go into the
basement with Heather.

585
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Yeah, and then only saw Styles
leave.

586
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,920
Right.
Not great.

587
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,440
Nope, not great.
Not a the evidence.

588
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Not good.
Not great.

589
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,600
Next week on True Crime.
Next week on Someone Know

590
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Something?
Next week on someone know

591
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,840
something?
Absolutely.

592
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,480
We'll.
Discuss the curious case of

593
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,080
Heather in the basement.
Speaking of, someone knows

594
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,240
something.
Lydia and Allison are best tag

595
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,840
team of the episode are in the
library and Allison is furiously

596
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,200
trying to figure out what this
mark is, but Lydia wants a twin.

597
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,560
She even says as such, I want
one, I want one.

598
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,720
The straight one, obviously.
So in this moment, I'm gonna,

599
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,080
I'm just gonna put a pin in
this.

600
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Lydia has a frighteningly
accurate gaydar.

601
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,160
Oh yeah, she do.
She has a very strong and

602
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,840
accurate gaydar.
I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna

603
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280
add that to the things that we
know about Lydia Martin.

604
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Come back to the list of like,
put a pin in it and we'll come

605
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,480
back to it in in later seasons.
Yes, we'll come back to it in

606
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,320
later seasons.
If we remember.

607
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,240
Yeah, well, you know, maybe
someone.

608
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240
Should be taking notes.
Someone, someone.

609
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,920
We need like a third person.
We need like an intern.

610
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Where's my cat?
Will you take notes?

611
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,560
Wesley he.
Absolutely won't.

612
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,680
He will not, He will not.
No, If Pickle were here, he

613
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000
would lie on the notes.
Yeah, totally.

614
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,880
But Wesley would be desperate to
get out of the room and then

615
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,800
come back in and then leave and
then come back in and.

616
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Then he would bat the pen around
for a while.

617
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Yeah, and that's not note
taking.

618
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,520
No, absolutely not.
So Lydia and Danny are over on

619
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,800
the other side of the library,
flirting with the twins?

620
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Because that's a good idea.
Because that's a good idea.

621
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,680
But Allison staring at Lydia's
strikingly familiar Starbucks

622
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,360
coffee cup.
OK, I I was like this Beacon

623
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,520
Hill's coffee logo looks a bit
familiar.

624
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,720
It looks does Derek.
Do the Hales also own the coffee

625
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,000
shop?
No, but again, that's not quite

626
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
a triscalion, I don't think.
No, it's not.

627
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,640
But I was like, who drew these?
Who?

628
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,160
Hold on.
But it it, it kind of tickles

629
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Allison's brain.
And she goes, huh, Maybe it's

630
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,240
not a symbol.
Maybe it's a logo.

631
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,880
And then this is where I get
unreasonably, irrationally angry

632
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,720
with Miss Argent.
Really.

633
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:25,960
She searches like Beacon Hill's,
like company Logos Allison.

634
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,000
There is no apostrophe in Logos.
Yes.

635
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,720
I'm I'm I'm looking at this and
go logos what?

636
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,240
But how many English classes has
she actually actually been to?

637
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,200
Not that many.
Not that many.

638
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,000
They get destroyed by birds.
She gets pulled out of them for

639
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,600
various reasons.
Moving.

640
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,840
Constantly.
But alpha there is no.

641
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,560
There's no apostrophe in Logos.
They are.

642
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Well, if you turn it around.
It's the logos that belong to

643
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,800
the Beacon Hills business.
The logos of if you invert the

644
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,360
snow can't make it happen.
No, can't make it happen.

645
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,760
I mean like we could make it
happen, but not not not with

646
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,120
those words.
She's wrong.

647
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,639
You could do logos companies in
Beacon Hills, but that doesn't

648
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,840
why that's a bad Google search.
Companies Logos Beacon Hills at.

649
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,520
Exclamation point.
So Allison decides to do a

650
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,480
little surgery search of her
own.

651
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,840
Yes, at least someone other than
Styles is doing Internet

652
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,280
research.
At least someone else's flexing

653
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,800
their muscles in deed.
I have no notes about the next

654
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,880
scene other than Styles name
drops Derek again.

655
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Derek says it's easier to turn
teenagers.

656
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,880
Yes, well, they've been having
conversations all summer.

657
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,040
All summer, all summer.
Fight me.

658
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,159
Fight me.
I know I'm.

659
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:48,360
I might be wrong.
I don't care.

660
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,199
Fight me.
We're not wrong, because there's

661
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,760
nothing to prove otherwise until
Jeff Davis tells us.

662
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,200
That I was wrong.
He wants to come on here and

663
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,160
tell us specifically what they
were doing for four months.

664
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,240
That's not solving cases and
discussing werewolf business.

665
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,720
It stands.
It stands.

666
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,680
This is an open invitation for
Jeff Davis to come tell us what

667
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,240
happened.
Come tell me what happened.

668
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,400
I want to know.
We will.

669
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,400
Back down.
Oh yeah, yeah.

670
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,640
If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong.
Please tell me.

671
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,560
I would love to be wrong.
But then we would have to get

672
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,120
into a larger conversation with
the creator about the death of

673
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,640
the author and whether or not if
it's not in the text, if it did

674
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,360
not occur on the screen or on
the page, if it counts.

675
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,800
Do you know what I mean?
Like if Jeff Davis says, oh,

676
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:43,080
well, you know, in July, Derek
went on a run, like, OK, but it

677
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,280
didn't occur on screen.
It doesn't count as Canon.

678
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,360
Yeah, what is what is Canon?
If it was written in the script

679
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,760
but cut out of editing?
If it was written in the script

680
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,840
and filmed, but cut out of
editing if it would.

681
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Do deleted scenes count as Canon
because they didn't air and are?

682
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,720
Yeah, those are those are
fascinating questions that

683
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,360
people have very divisive and
strong opinions about.

684
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,760
Yeah, it's a good question.
I don't know something that I

685
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,240
also have strong questions about
the pack.

686
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Yes.
The pack finally decides what to

687
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,080
do with Isaac's little memories.
Yes, yes, they they go for a

688
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,880
very therapeutic cold plunge.
We do they.

689
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,760
I don't understand how this
works.

690
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,560
This is one of those mystical,
magical things that I'm like,

691
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,720
did someone just want to put
Daniel Sherman into like, the

692
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,840
naked bath?
Yes, I think they did because

693
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,080
they do a lot of also like
really beautiful artistic shots

694
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,840
of him with like slightly blue
lips and his Big Blue eyes.

695
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Well this is gorgeous.
This whole scene is.

696
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,240
Beautiful.
Beautiful.

697
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,520
It's.
So beautiful.

698
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,400
My note here is welcome to the
ice bath, we'll see you again.

699
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,080
Yeah, exactly.
Welcome.

700
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,280
We'll see you a little bit
later.

701
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,320
Can anyone tell me what
foreshadowing means?

702
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,720
Yes, they didn't want to get rid
of this tub and I guess ice is

703
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,440
cheap.
Yeah, either that or it's those

704
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,040
little plastic diamonds that
they would put on the tables for

705
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,360
like prom.
Yeah, totally.

706
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,240
Yeah.
So Speaking of things that are

707
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,600
candid, and I have to ask why?
Why God, why?

708
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480
So Styles being a prehoitious
pain in the ass 16 year old

709
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,480
decides to put on what I can
only imagine is like the yeah

710
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,120
you're going to have to mark
this not for work.

711
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,440
The cattle butt glove.
Yes, it's it's, it's the

712
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,840
insemination glove is what it
is.

713
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,280
It's the means it's an elbow
length rubber glove used

714
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,720
primarily for.
Checking butt temperatures on

715
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:40,240
cattle.
Yeah, for doing mostly things

716
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:44,160
with cows, but I think could
also be used to do things with

717
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,800
people in other contexts.
And so everyone in the room, so

718
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,000
Deaton, Isaac, Scott, Derek,
everyone's in the room going

719
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,800
like, why?
What are you doing?

720
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,560
Yeah, it's a fair question
because why?

721
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,080
But they give the reaction shot
to Derek.

722
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Yeah.
Why?

723
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,960
It's because his face is so good
at it.

724
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,600
Like it's so minute.
Like the mouth doesn't move.

725
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,760
The mouth is that nice little
line of of perturbed, perturbed.

726
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
But also, like, this is funny
and I don't want to tell you

727
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,480
it's funny.
It's funny.

728
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,920
I don't want to tell you like I
just, it's thing.

729
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,360
It's like little sprinkles.
You could have given it to

730
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Scott, you could have given it
to Deaton, but you gave it to

731
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,760
Derek.
Gave it to Derek, Yeah.

732
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,720
Why?
Why?

733
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Because we're always winning.
This is this is how we can still

734
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,560
win.
So Derek is trying in this

735
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,320
moment with Isaac to be a better
alpha.

736
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,720
He's going to be a bad alpha
here in a minute, but he's

737
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,400
trying to be a better alpha.
He is trying to support Isaac.

738
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,760
Like if you don't want to do
this, like you don't have to.

739
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,280
This is what we're trying to do.
But there are other options.

740
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,000
And he is trying and Derek and
Scott are trying to trust each

741
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,080
other and working together to
basically kill Isaac and it kill

742
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,280
him just a.
Little bit because Deaton wants

743
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,760
Deaton wants to slow his heart
rate down to put him into a

744
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,360
trance like state.
I'm not sure how that works.

745
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,520
It doesn't.
I don't this whole thing of like

746
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,560
does this.
Well, I was gonna say, does this

747
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,160
work with other people?
But we'll get there.

748
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Yeah, we'll get there.
Like how does he's like, you'll

749
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,240
be half transformed, but like,
why?

750
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,800
How does submerging A werewolf
into ice water and then holding

751
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,800
him there put him in a like?
There's no incantations, there's

752
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,160
no wolf's vein, There's no
nothing.

753
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,680
It's just like a cold plunge
until you sort of stop breathing

754
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,080
a little bit.
I hate it.

755
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,320
I hate.
It float to the surface.

756
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,720
Like tell me how did they
discover this?

757
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,760
Like who was the first emissary
to be like hey if we half drown

758
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,000
A werewolf we can hypnotize
them?

759
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:46,760
I don't even want to know.
I don't even want to know what.

760
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Did, like, did one fall into an
icy lake?

761
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,640
And they were like, hey, talk to
Dave, see what he says.

762
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,880
See.
What he says.

763
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,000
I have.
I have absolutely no idea, but

764
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960
they basically drown him a
little bit and then he kind of

765
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:03,000
comes into this translate state
and Deaton is very, very clear

766
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,760
that he that Deaton should be
the only one to talk to Isaac

767
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,000
because otherwise he's going to
get confused and snap him out of

768
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,760
it.
And so Deaton is like walking

769
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Isaac through the night that he
found Boyd and Erica.

770
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,080
So through this episode, we
learn that Isaac found them.

771
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,240
They're they've been searching
for four months and that Isaac

772
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,800
found them.
Probably the night that Braden

773
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,680
saved him from his injuries
because the alphas found him and

774
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,680
injured him big.
Sliceys on the side.

775
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,320
Yeah, Sliceys on the side.
So like we are trying to figure

776
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,320
out what Isaac saw 'cause he
couldn't cause the IT all kind

777
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,160
of ties together 'cause Braden
talked to Isaac about the things

778
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,800
that they stole from him, so
they must have taken the

779
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,440
memories out of like where they
were and how he got there.

780
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,080
And what he saw.
And what he saw.

781
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,320
And so they're trying to tap
into what's left to find them.

782
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,720
Yep, and which Peter couldn't do
on his own for some reason, like

783
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,960
the claws weren't enough.
Because he's still weak from

784
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,600
being dead, is what he keeps
saying.

785
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,040
He keeps saying like, oh, I'm
such a weak werewolf because I

786
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,040
died because I.
Died and got reanimated.

787
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,640
Was so weak.
But like, even, I think the

788
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,760
thing about it is that you would
have had to hear it from Isaac

789
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,480
because Peter could only see
things, he couldn't describe

790
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,800
them.
Yeah, yeah, He kept when he was

791
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,600
talking about, he was like, oh,
there's something and there's a

792
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,760
room, but he didn't know what he
was looking at.

793
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,280
Yeah, he had no idea what he was
looking at, but Isaac is kind of

794
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,880
getting walked back into that
space and he is very, it's very

795
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,640
particular because he does not
want to go back there.

796
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,880
He is scared.
He is very scared.

797
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,720
And one of the things that I got
from this, this little scene is

798
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,440
Isaac says over and over and
over again, I don't want to do

799
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,960
that.
I don't want to do that.

800
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,240
I don't want to do that.
And that to me, sounds so much

801
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:12,000
like something that a kid would
pull out of a, like, a tool kit

802
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,920
when they're first learning
about boundaries.

803
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Oh, yeah.
Or like recovering from abusive

804
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,120
situations.
Well, let's not forget that

805
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Isaac was the abused kid.
Yeah, exactly that.

806
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Like, you know, if you're ever
in a situation where like you

807
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,160
don't want to do something, here
are some things you can say and

808
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,240
just keep saying them until it
happens.

809
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,080
And so over and over and over
again he goes, I don't want to

810
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,320
do that, I don't want to do
that.

811
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
I don't want to do that.
And I'm just like, oh, somebody

812
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,560
is pulling out his very base
defense mechanisms here because

813
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
all the lights and the whole
environment like shakes and

814
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,320
flickers.
And Isaac is like not having a

815
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,600
good time.
And Styles keeps looking up at

816
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,200
Derek which like for like
reassurance which just like

817
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,360
breaks my heart.
And Isaac grabs on to Scott as

818
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,200
he's walking through this.
Nothing but respect for my

819
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,040
boyfriend.
Like I just Scott and Isaac,

820
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,360
Scott and Isaac, Scott and
Isaac.

821
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,000
Let's feel some feelings here.
But Derek is looking super super

822
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,360
concerned about like what Isaac
is saying and what is happening

823
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,200
to him as he like shakes and is
screaming and is like talking

824
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,360
about all the scary things he
doesn't want to talk about cause

825
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Deaton is trying to like walk
came through what's going on?

826
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,960
And then Derek officially falls
off the horse and starts being a

827
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,080
bad alpha.
Because, well, yeah, 'cause he's

828
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,200
not getting what he wants.
He's getting like, oh, it's

829
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,920
stone and they're gonna hurt
each other and but he's, he's

830
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,640
not getting a location, he's not
getting a description, he's not

831
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,880
getting where exactly they are.
So he just starts yelling out,

832
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,360
demanding questions even though
he's been told not to.

833
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,720
And Deaton is right there going
shut the fuck out.

834
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Right there.
Like it fucking sees you.

835
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Yeah.
So it's a it's a very chaotic

836
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,200
scene, Yeah.
Of, of Isaac yelling out

837
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,200
information and Derek screaming
in his face and Deaton being

838
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,400
like, blah, don't do that, we're
going to lose him.

839
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,800
But Isaac finally says that they
are in a bank vault.

840
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,680
The first Hill, the first No.
Beacon Hill's First National

841
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,320
Bank is where where they are
when he snaps back to

842
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,720
consciousness.
Except when he snaps back to

843
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,840
consciousness, they all have to
tell him that he said something

844
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,360
else.
Did you think this was a weird

845
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,840
edit?
Like, why didn't we get a little

846
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,760
bit of this information while he
was kind of like, they're in a

847
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,320
bank vault.
There was a memory, There's a

848
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,160
marble.
It's dusty.

849
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,920
There was a body, you know,
like, why didn't why did the

850
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,160
show withhold all of that
information and not even give a

851
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,760
hint of it until he snaps back
to consciousness?

852
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,280
And Styles is the one to be
like, yo, buddy, you actually

853
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,840
told us more.
And that's they dragged you into

854
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:08,440
a room with a dead Erica.
I think in TV reasons it's

855
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,320
because it adds dramatic
tension.

856
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,120
For real life reasons.
I imagine it might have been a a

857
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,120
pickup as they change the
script.

858
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Yeah, 'cause that I was like, I
mean, one, bummer and two, like,

859
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,400
weird.
Yeah, it's weird.

860
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,880
It's super weird.
Like, especially because later

861
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,120
in the show we definitely get an
image of somebody who died in

862
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,440
there.
It certainly wasn't Erica.

863
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,720
I don't know what you're talking
about.

864
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,840
It absolutely wasn't Erica.
No, she's escaped.

865
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520
She's on the plane.
Yeah, she's definitely with

866
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,280
Jackson right now in in London.
It's 100% where she is.

867
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,960
She's fine.
They are ruling the roost in.

868
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,360
London, they're, they're having,
they're having packed bonding

869
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,720
time.
They're gonna go terror twins.

870
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,000
It's gonna be amazing.
Wild.

871
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,640
But yeah, no, I like you would
think that having the the shot

872
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,560
of the body would be a better.
Yeah, just like a little flash

873
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,840
of a hint for the audience to be
like, whoa, whoa, what was that?

874
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Yeah, and.
Then you come back from

875
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,440
commercial break and you're
like, yeah, Erica is no longer

876
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,120
with us.
I mean, she is.

877
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,360
She's in London.
She's in London.

878
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,320
It's fine.
It's fine.

879
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,800
No longer with the show.
Yeah, she's no longer with the

880
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,440
show.
I'm still mad about it, but I'm.

881
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Super mad.
But they come back from

882
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,120
commercial to a scene that has
absolutely no reason to exist.

883
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,240
I mean which one?
So they come back from what I

884
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,200
can only expect to understand is
commercial.

885
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:37,600
Oh yeah, the weird cut.
If you're watching it online,

886
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,880
you're like, was that a
commercial break?

887
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,800
It feels.
Like a commercial break,

888
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,480
definitely commercial break.
But they come back and then

889
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,760
they're talking about how do you
get into the bank and the bank

890
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,840
and the and the and the robbery.
And it's like stops like looking

891
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,120
stuff up on his phone and Derek
starts to give him sass and

892
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,000
there's like 5 people in this
room.

893
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,120
But it's the Styles and Derek
show with the bank robbery

894
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,880
Internet sass off.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

895
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,560
What was the point of this?
What was the purpose?

896
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,240
Just for us, I think.
It must be.

897
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,000
It must have just been a a
present.

898
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,200
It must have just been a gift.
Yes, I think this is simply to

899
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,120
enjoy.
Because it isn't even a great

900
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,440
set up to the next scene where
Scott, Scott and Stiles have

901
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,640
been up all night looking for
information on the bank vault

902
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,000
robbery.
It is a very iconic shot of

903
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,080
styles asleep on the paper.
My God, it's incredible.

904
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,560
But it's like it would have been
stronger to do the optical flip

905
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,480
of like, how long is it going to
take?

906
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,600
It's the Internet seconds to.
I can't believe we've been up

907
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,480
for 10 hours and nothing because
for me it just flips to like the

908
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600
next day.
Yeah.

909
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,360
It just it just that that that
flip isn't quite as strong.

910
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,640
But I love both scenes.
They're adorable.

911
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,080
It yeah, I often I have editing
questions sometimes of like, did

912
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:11,800
you take something out or did
you leave this in for the is it

913
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:17,640
So a show has to be a certain
length to fill the hour plus

914
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,760
commercials, right?
Like it has to be a specific

915
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,800
length so it can wobble between
what, 4244 minutes?

916
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,760
But then you have to have the
time for the commercials.

917
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,280
So the editing is super specific
to hit the commercial breaks,

918
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,760
which is why all hour long shows
and half hour shows of that time

919
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,200
feel very similar, right?
Like you hit these scene breaks,

920
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,360
like you kind of know at the end
of a scene is coming because it

921
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,720
has to hit a, a mark to hit the
commercial break.

922
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,520
And then sometimes you're like,
that scene ended weird like,

923
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,120
well, because it had to cut for
a commercial.

924
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Yeah, because I had to cut for a
commercial.

925
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,600
And and sometimes I wonder like,
did they keep this in because

926
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,600
they had to hit the commercial?
Or is it is it still there

927
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,840
because there's someone in the
editing room that like is kind

928
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,120
of in hysteric?
And then because some of these

929
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,560
scenes don't happen in later
seasons, right?

930
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,400
Like some of the steric really
goes away.

931
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,800
Oh yeah, it 100% it disappears
in in in 3B it disappears.

932
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,840
He he the the not to put my
phantom hat on, but this is

933
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,880
phantom on the rocks.
Like this is what we do.

934
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:27,360
This is what we do.
So like the three A is like

935
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,280
frighteningly heavy on Steric 3.
B All the scenes that like fans

936
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,400
remember are from three are
Yeah, they're all here.

937
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,000
They're all from 3A3B, drops it
entirely.

938
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,120
They go from talking every
episode to not being not being

939
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,920
in a in a shot together like it.
It's wild.

940
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:54,720
I know the, the, the common
theory among fans, and this is

941
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:58,760
not just for for Steric, right.
A common theory for fans of, I

942
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,320
think especially male ships is
that there's network

943
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,840
interference.
Yeah.

944
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,760
To say that.
Oh, OK, this is getting really

945
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,640
popular.
Someone in the network has

946
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,160
noticed that there's fandom
interaction online and they've

947
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,680
been told to pull it back.
Yeah.

948
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,000
And then that theory gets made
fun of by other people like, oh,

949
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,120
you're just imagining things.
No one cares that much.

950
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Like.
OK, but network, tell me one,

951
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,480
networks care and two, tell me
the other reason.

952
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:32,760
Tell me why these 12 episodes
are so different than the other

953
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,120
12 episodes.
Like just give me, give me a

954
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,320
reason.
Oh, Starek are just Bros.

955
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,120
OK, then why aren't they as
friends having the same

956
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:46,000
conversations in 3B and four and
five that they do in two and

957
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,400
three?
A Yeah, just explain it to me

958
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,880
like I'm 4.
Yeah, explain it to me.

959
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,720
Just go ahead and explain it to
me, because there's a marked

960
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,120
difference.
It happens in other shows where

961
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,640
male characters get really close
and somebody takes notice, and

962
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,600
then suddenly both have
girlfriends and they're never

963
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,080
seen in a scene together again.
You're like, all right, well,

964
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,160
what happened here?
Yeah, because that like, and

965
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,360
I'm, I'm, I've got my stereo
goggles on and I know this, but

966
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,960
you know, you look at 3A and
they're building like a

967
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,800
relationship and a friendship.
Like they are they, they are

968
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,440
comfortable with each other,
they talk to each other.

969
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,880
It's a whole thing.
Then you get to 3B where they

970
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,880
are very much not interacting
together at all until the very

971
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,480
end.
And even that's kind of hit or

972
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,400
miss.
And then we get to Season 4

973
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,000
where they both get girlfriends
and are done.

974
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Yeah.
And you're like, that's a

975
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,400
choice.
Like, OK, it's a choice.

976
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,280
Interesting.
And like, you're telling me that

977
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,640
if it was never meant to be, I
mean, a little romantic or like,

978
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,240
if you were never hinting a
little bit or having a little

979
00:51:56,240 --> 00:52:00,040
bit of fun with it, that two
people who have been through

980
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,880
literal Hellfire aren't still
gonna talk even if they have

981
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,200
girlfriends.
Yeah, OK, I don't know.

982
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,000
If I almost died for my best
buddy, I would still hang out

983
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,520
with him.
Yeah, and like I, I'm looking

984
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,720
forward to kind of like re
watching it and looking kind of

985
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:17,360
how Isaac moves around and how
he moves with like moves with

986
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Scott and kind of how how those
things happen.

987
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:25,560
But really looking at the
looking at the friendships.

988
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,160
Because right now in 3A, there
really aren't.

989
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,480
There's not really a romance
angle.

990
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,000
Yeah.
Like Scott and Alice that are

991
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,320
broken up, Styles and Lydia,
like aren't like Styles isn't

992
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,520
following her like a puppy in
this moment.

993
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:44,520
Scott doesn't really have any
anything.

994
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,080
Derek doesn't really have
anybody.

995
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,560
Styles was about to, you know,
do stuff with Heather and then

996
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,120
she got disappeared.
And like Derek will get a Derek

997
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,720
will get some stuff here a
little bit.

998
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,800
But like we'll kind of see where
that goes.

999
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,360
It's not like they're not busy.
It's not like they're not busy,

1000
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,440
but it's like it it it seems an
odd choice.

1001
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,240
Yeah.
It just seems an odd choice.

1002
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,640
It does.
But as we get into like season

1003
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,840
4, we'll start talking about the
about the hail sized elephant in

1004
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,120
the room.
OK, Yeah.

1005
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,720
We'll start talking about the
hail sized elephant.

1006
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Well, Speaking of people who are
not inherently romantically

1007
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,800
LinkedIn this particular
episode, but should be, Allison

1008
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,360
and Lydia are just horribly sexy
as they get out of their car

1009
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,440
because they're both wearing
these beautiful coats with their

1010
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,840
like, big fluffy hair.
And I'm just like, hello ladies,

1011
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,320
hello.
And I don't even know if you're

1012
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,880
not there.
Person I'd be like damn I want a

1013
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,240
stylist.
And they both get out of there,

1014
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,480
out of whoever's car this is,
Allison's, I think, and go to

1015
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,160
grab their lay their purses out
of the back.

1016
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,640
And Allison's definitely gonna
do something illegal 'cause she

1017
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,600
has those bolt cutters in her
car.

1018
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,520
Yeah.
Whoops.

1019
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Not learning.
No, she's not learning.

1020
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,120
She's just gonna stick her
little nose, like just right on

1021
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,240
through, right on through.
And not get in trouble.

1022
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,280
No, of course not 'cause her
father is a highly respected

1023
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,440
federal arms dealer.
Allison.

1024
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,360
Allison Argent.
Allison.

1025
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,280
Allison Argent.
Whatever your middle name is

1026
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,400
that I can't remember.
Allison, middle name Argent.

1027
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,160
Yeah.
Anything else to say about

1028
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,320
Allison's car in the bank and
the and the and the bolt

1029
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,760
cutters?
Not at the moment because she in

1030
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,840
a moment.
Well, the cut from like there at

1031
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,000
school.
She's withholding information

1032
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,200
from Scott at the moment because
I think it was Lydia who's like,

1033
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,840
oh, we should talk to Scott
about these bruises.

1034
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,680
And she's like, I got bolt
cutters and then and then all of

1035
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,760
a sudden it's night time and
she's breaking into the bank.

1036
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,440
Like I guess I expected the next
scene to be at school and

1037
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,880
instead it is night time and she
is breaking her way into this

1038
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,880
bank.
I did have just like general

1039
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,120
questions that we don't need to
discuss here because they're

1040
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,200
more like, how long has this
bank been foreclosed on and how

1041
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,720
many banks are in Beacon Hills?
And how come this property can

1042
00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:03,560
just sit empty and foreclosed on
in this small town and not get

1043
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,120
renovated?
And that was just really

1044
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,240
unimportant to the entire plot.
That was more just like my brain

1045
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,280
going like, it seems like a big
piece of property in a town to

1046
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,720
go unused.
How convenient.

1047
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,240
But anyway, instead though, we
are back at the loft.

1048
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,360
The Loft, The Loft.
The Loft.

1049
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,600
And I my note here was this
iconic steric scene.

1050
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,720
Yes, this iconic steric scene
because we of styles, Scott and

1051
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:29,240
Derek and and Peter.
Peter is off, just like in the

1052
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,480
dark.
On the staircase, just hanging.

1053
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,360
Out.
Hanging out but Styles, Scott

1054
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,880
and Derek are like pouring over
the the blueprints to the bank

1055
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,040
because it turns out that there
was a bank robbery and that his

1056
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,760
and that Styles dad the sheriff
worked on the case.

1057
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,920
And so somehow that equates to
Styles getting the entire

1058
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600
lowdown on how the thieves got
into the bank vault.

1059
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:54,920
This whole.
Thing.

1060
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,200
Sure, sure.
Styles all right.

1061
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,040
It would be super cool if if if
Papa knew about werewolves so

1062
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,640
that they could just explain the
situation.

1063
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,560
Super cool.
Totally.

1064
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,200
Oh well.
And so they're doing all these

1065
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,560
things and I don't even know
where Scott is because they

1066
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,360
don't have him in the shot.
I know, like I think, you know,

1067
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,560
I think he's to Styles.
His other side but like I don't

1068
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,200
know what Scott thinks about the
plan.

1069
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,120
I have no idea because he is not
in the fucking shot.

1070
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,040
Because the shot is just Styles
talking and Derek just staring

1071
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,560
wide eyed at him with.
Those biggle arms.

1072
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,800
Like with his biggle arms, like
very like postured.

1073
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,640
He's very like, peacocky.
It's very odd.

1074
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,240
And he's showing off for his
little man.

1075
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:42,000
He's.
Showing off.

1076
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:47,080
And so they have this
conversation about, you know,

1077
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,520
Styles has done all the, all
the, the looking at all the

1078
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,160
schematics and he's like, well,
they've, they've redone this

1079
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,720
wall.
And so there's gonna be about 3

1080
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,400
inches there, and we're just
gonna do a drill so that we can

1081
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,520
actually, like, plow through the
thing and Derek in the like,

1082
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,080
most peacocky way possible.
Hell yeah.

1083
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:05,800
I don't.
Need no drill.

1084
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,160
I don't need a drill.
I'll just punch through it.

1085
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,080
And Styles is like, what?
What?

1086
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,520
You're going to punch?
You're going to punch it.

1087
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,560
You get about this much space,
you're going to punch it.

1088
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,120
Oh, come on, big guy, Show me
what you got.

1089
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,880
The fuck is the scene?
The fuck is this?

1090
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,240
It's two men flirting.
And then you've got Peter in the

1091
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,760
background just.
Smirking.

1092
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,360
He's smirking, and then he
laughs.

1093
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,960
It's because his little nephew's
like finally flirting with a

1094
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,440
boy.
Like what the fuck is that?

1095
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,000
He's flirting with a boy He.
Oh, this is wild.

1096
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160
It's absolutely wild.
And I don't.

1097
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,680
It's truly wild.
It's also, you know, Fannin or

1098
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,760
cannon.
Cannon is big guy.

1099
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Yeah, big guy getting called.
Big guy is cannon.

1100
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,920
Big guy is cannon and so.
Derek's just, he's like, yes, I

1101
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,680
will punch my way through
because he bonks his hand into

1102
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,400
his first into Styles and.
Flying, yeah.

1103
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,080
I don't think it's a spousal
abuse yet.

1104
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,320
No, no.
Getting close, but not quite.

1105
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,520
Getting close, but no cigar.
Yeah, I love this scene so much.

1106
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,400
That's the best.
And then Derek's like, what

1107
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,560
about you?
And so I was like, yeah, if you

1108
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,400
want me to come, like, not.
You, not you.

1109
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,600
Nearly talking to Scott about,
you know, joining this hunting

1110
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,560
party.
Peter was over there like no, I

1111
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,880
can't come join the fight
because I'm a little bitch and I

1112
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,280
don't think we should be doing
this.

1113
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,800
Can someone kill him again?
Please yes, totally.

1114
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,840
Like you're not going to help at
all, you little punk ass.

1115
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,520
Yeah.
So Scott, again, is doing that

1116
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:44,440
like risk and reward thing
about, you know, is it worth the

1117
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,440
risk to break in to kind of bust
them out?

1118
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,240
Like, what is that?
What does that look like?

1119
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,800
And he's like, well, I don't
know about Erica and my heart

1120
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,200
shatters, but if Boyd is in
there, we got to get him out.

1121
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Yep.
And so he.

1122
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,840
Really took that risk and reward
lesson to heart.

1123
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,440
He did it was like ephemeral
from last episode.

1124
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,920
He really he took a school
lesson and he took it to heart

1125
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,840
because he has been paying
attention for all of sophomore

1126
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:07,320
year.
So junior year, he's going to

1127
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:07,960
pay attention.
He's.

1128
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,280
There, he's locked in.
Love that.

1129
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,440
So we finally get into the
vaults, at least in our little

1130
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,640
brains, and it's Boyd.
Hi, Boyd.

1131
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,200
I love you.
Please be safe.

1132
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Doesn't.
Look very safe.

1133
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,480
Does not look very safe.
But then there's a girl.

1134
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,320
It's a New Girl because it's not
Erica.

1135
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,240
Other brunette we got.
I got to say we got a little too

1136
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,720
many brunettes happening because
this one Morel the alpha,

1137
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,720
they're all in the dark.
They're all looking a little

1138
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,400
similar when they're running by
with.

1139
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,600
The blue, they all yeah, yeah,
everyone's flying.

1140
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Like everyone's brown hair is
just flying out from behind

1141
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,040
them.
I don't know who is where.

1142
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,200
When like, it's in the dark,
everyone's fighting and there's

1143
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,640
just like a whoosh of brown
hair.

1144
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,680
Like which one was that?
How worried do I have to be

1145
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,200
right now?
Totally unhaired flush is coming

1146
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,160
towards me.
Do I need to care about that

1147
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:02,600
one?
No.

1148
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,400
OK, so Jennifer Blake too.
Like do I need to?

1149
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,000
Miss Blake, what are you doing
here in the bank hall?

1150
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,480
So we go back to Allison, who's
just like, wandering the

1151
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,120
dilapidated halls of an old
abandoned bank and then gets

1152
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,800
politely assaulted by Miss
Morel.

1153
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,040
Yeah, What's she doing here,
lady?

1154
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,880
Trying to protect her question
mark question.

1155
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,080
She's like hide at that closet
and Allison's like, OK.

1156
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Sure, right as she closes the
door, basically as Dekalian and

1157
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,600
the alphas come saundering down
the hallway.

1158
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,920
And I don't know any other
names, I don't think it matters.

1159
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,000
The barefoot Alpha like stops
outside the closet where

1160
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,080
Allison's hiding, who then uses
ammonia to hide her scent.

1161
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,360
Yeah, very smart, but wouldn't.
The alpha be like ammonia, I

1162
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,640
wonder if someone is using that
to hide their scent.

1163
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Maybe, but in this moment, she
doesn't care.

1164
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,600
I know that was that was 1
moment where I was like

1165
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,040
shouldn't she be a little
smarter and be like that's a

1166
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,160
strange scent that suddenly
appeared when I stopped here.

1167
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,440
Yeah, it's a little, it's a
little whatever, but you know

1168
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,280
what it.
Was very smart of Allison and I

1169
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,040
do hope that was part of her
training from Chris, yes.

1170
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,040
That would be a very smart.
Danger and there happens to be

1171
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,760
ammonia.
Yeah, use something strong

1172
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,560
smelling to mask your scent.
Yep, garlic maybe to ward off

1173
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,440
the vampires.
But Allison, as soon as the

1174
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,160
alphas pass, she finally turns
on her flashlight and turns

1175
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,920
around to find nothing.
Absolutely nothing, She finds

1176
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:29,880
nothing.
It's not.

1177
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,320
Weird.
How this closet is completely

1178
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,160
empty and she also I guess
didn't smell anything when she

1179
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,760
first walked into this.
Totally devoid.

1180
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,440
This closet is totally devoid of
corpses, and there's devoid in

1181
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,760
there that would smell.
Decomposing flesh.

1182
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,760
Moving on.
Yeah, no, she finds Erica's

1183
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,280
decomposing body on the floor,
and it sucks.

1184
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,040
Sucks and my heart is shattered.
Why did you put Erica in the

1185
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,960
closet?
Yeah, why do you put her in the

1186
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,120
fucking closet?
Why rude?

1187
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,760
Why don't you just like, leave
her in the bank vault?

1188
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,800
I don't know what I don't like.
It so mad about it.

1189
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,520
I'm so mad about it.
Barely knew ye Erica as she is

1190
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:13,440
off to her new life in the.
London.

1191
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,240
She's in London with Jackson.
Getting fitted for a new leather

1192
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,240
jacket.
Correct, correct.

1193
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,040
'Cause this one's a bit messy
now.

1194
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,280
Yeah, this.
One's a little gross.

1195
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,680
Now she's gonna get fitted for a
new one.

1196
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,280
And Allison is like super duper
shocked.

1197
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,520
As it would be when you find a
corpse in a in a closet.

1198
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,880
And I am.
Apparently.

1199
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,000
I was very angry in my note
taking process because in all

1200
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,720
caps it says it is your fault
Allison get wrecked.

1201
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,520
And while this particular death
isn't exactly Allison's fault, I

1202
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,240
was a little too angry at her
for this.

1203
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,520
Like shouldn't help.
Yeah, yeah.

1204
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,920
No, 'cause like Boyd and Erica
ran away on their own.

1205
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,320
They did on their own, but it
wasn't until after they escaped

1206
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,200
from the Urgence that like they
got wrecked That like I'm yeah,

1207
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,920
I'm still, I'm still a little
mad at Allison, even though it's

1208
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,760
misdirected and.
Caused a lot of problems.

1209
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,920
And she never got the chance to
apologize to Erica.

1210
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,480
Yeah, I hope in that moment she
apologizes to her corpse.

1211
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,320
Would she have apologized 'cause
she hasn't been apologizing for

1212
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,720
anything else yet?
Well, maybe it's because it's a

1213
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,800
corpse.
That's true.

1214
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:26,640
But Speaking of corpses, we get
our first real solid steeder of

1215
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,080
the mid season, yes?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

1216
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,680
We haven't gotten any Steeder
since Season 1.

1217
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,200
Welcome back.
Welcome back.

1218
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,120
Welcome back.
Stiles has been left behind at

1219
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,080
the loft with Peter, who is
trying to nap on the couch

1220
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:44,240
because he doesn't give a shit.
His fucking Derek has a velour

1221
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,960
couch.
It's like turquoise velour couch

1222
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,480
with a perfect spotlight.
I think he stole it.

1223
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,200
That doesn't seem like something
he'd pay for.

1224
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,320
No, it doesn't.
And like Styles is pacing back

1225
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,760
and forth in front of the giant
wall of windows and a perfect

1226
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,480
silhouette.
Like Oh yes.

1227
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,760
Sometimes the cinematography is
real good.

1228
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,040
Correct.
And he's trying to figure out

1229
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,360
like something doesn't feel
right about the bank.

1230
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,640
Why the bank?
What are they doing there?

1231
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,920
And his questions finally kind
of spark something.

1232
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,800
And Peter, who perks up and is
like, what are those bank vaults

1233
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,600
made out of?
And they go to the plans and

1234
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,240
they are made out of
Hecatellite, I think is what it

1235
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:28,720
is, Which Peter is like, oh,
that's a problem because I guess

1236
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,120
he has a PhD in building
materials.

1237
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,960
And he realizes that the boy
that the Boyd that Boyd and the

1238
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,800
girl are, are actually there to
kill Derek and Scott or will

1239
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,640
kill Derek and Scott.
And that is a problem for him, I

1240
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,800
guess.
I guess he has feels nor I feel

1241
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,400
like season 1 Peter would be
like whatever season 3 Peter's

1242
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,400
like.
I feel like we should maybe tell

1243
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,840
them.
Yeah, probably so they do.

1244
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,600
They do.
Derek and Scott have made it to

1245
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,880
the bank, but Scott's like doing
his risk and reward thing.

1246
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,240
You know, we don't have all the
information to know what's the

1247
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,160
real risk here.
They put the triscal A on

1248
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,400
Derek's door four months ago.
What have they been doing this

1249
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,320
whole time?
But Derek is like running head

1250
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,520
first into situations without
waiting for the details, because

1251
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,120
he thinks he knows what he's
risking for the reward of Boyd

1252
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,240
and Erica or Boyd and something.
Boyd and Erica is what he's

1253
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,920
thinking right?
The second I know what I'm

1254
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,160
risking my life for theirs.
And I won't blame you if you

1255
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,280
don't follow me.
Yep, Yep.

1256
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,720
Which this is a Derek that we
know.

1257
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,120
This is not new for Derek.
He is impulsive.

1258
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:40,840
He thinks he's right.
He does not take direction well.

1259
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,720
No, but at least in this moment,
he is giving Scott some agency

1260
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,560
because like Season 1 Derrick
would be like, I'm right, you're

1261
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,200
wrong, and if you don't follow
me, you're stupid.

1262
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,880
Yeah.
At least season 3 Derrick is

1263
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,240
like, I'm.
I think I'm right, but I'm not.

1264
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,760
I'm not gonna blame you if you
don't.

1265
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,880
Yeah, let me.
Yeah.

1266
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,640
So he's he's learned a little.
And so then Derek proceeds to do

1267
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,280
some magical gymnastics work to
get up on the.

1268
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,080
Yes.
On the on the ladder with some

1269
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,520
impressive pull ups.
Wow he's pretty and then punches

1270
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,880
through the bank wall.
Oh alpha, my alpha.

1271
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,200
Oh alpha, my alpha.
Boom, and we find Boyd.

1272
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,880
Boyd.
Is looking a little a little

1273
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,880
fucked up.
He's looking a.

1274
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,760
Little worse for wear, but he is
alive.

1275
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,600
He is there.
He is standing on his own 2

1276
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,080
feet.
This is right when Stiles calls

1277
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,800
Scott to tell them to get the
fuck out of there.

1278
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,760
Because the walls of the vault
are made out of a material that

1279
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,480
scatters the moonlight.
I did not do any research

1280
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,320
whatsoever to know if this was
correct.

1281
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,280
I did not care because it works
for the plot.

1282
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,880
The betas have not felt the full
moonlight in months.

1283
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,200
This is the Alpha pack's plan.
They have been starved of

1284
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:01,120
moonlight for four months and
now that the break in has

1285
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,920
happened, they are getting the
full blast of full moon

1286
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:10,360
moonlight in their eyeballs and
they are going to go bananas on

1287
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,720
Scott and Derek.
OK, so I'm according to

1288
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,360
Wikipedia, this is the dumbest
thing a bank vault would ever be

1289
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
made out of.
Because it's porous.

1290
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:25,000
Well, heck, Halite is moonstone.
OK makes great jewelry.

1291
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Makes great jewelry.
It is a six on the most hardness

1292
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,960
scale.
Out of what, 10?

1293
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,120
OK.
So not, you know, strong, but

1294
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,560
not that strong.
It's really shiny, so.

1295
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,240
It's reflective, OK, It's a.
Reflect like what?

1296
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:45,400
What, what, what, what?
So so did like did a bad guy

1297
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,560
make the vault in the 1st place
for this eventuality to happen?

1298
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,360
Like who made the vault?
Have been.

1299
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,520
OK, that's the back story I
want.

1300
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,280
Who made the vault like 100
years ago?

1301
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,480
I don't know.
Explain to me this, Davis.

1302
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,800
Explain.
Explain.

1303
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,080
Really, I think it's just
because it's Moonstone.

1304
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,800
It's just because it's
Moonstone.

1305
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,960
Coming up on Phantom on the
Rocks, we will have Moonstone

1306
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,920
merch.
You too can scatter moonbeams at

1307
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,359
your enemies.
So Boyd is alive, but you know,

1308
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,720
haven't been a little, a little
worse for wear.

1309
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,640
But as Scott is receiving all
this information, the New Girl

1310
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,359
makes her appearance.
Yes, we got a New Girl, we got a

1311
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:31,040
new character, we have a new
hail.

1312
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,520
New character alert.
This is Cora.

1313
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,600
This is Derek's younger sister.
Who?

1314
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,200
Derek recognizes her.
Yes, he does.

1315
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,080
He's like Cora.
Rakes.

1316
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:49,120
He is so sad, he is so confused.
Like let us, let us do the math.

1317
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,800
Let us do the math.
I don't do math, what are you

1318
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,800
talking about?
Math So in Season 1 the fire was

1319
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:03,279
six years ago so it would have
been seven years since he's seen

1320
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:11,439
Cora and so she is about the
same age as Scott Ish so he

1321
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,880
hasn't seen her since she was
like 9-9 or 10.

1322
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,359
Yeah, that sounds right.
Yeah, Anne thought she was dead.

1323
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:20,720
I thought she was dead.
I thought that she died in the

1324
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,120
fire.
Along with the rest of his

1325
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,560
family.
So Derek is just completely

1326
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,160
broken because his baby sister,
his baby sister is alive and in

1327
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,560
front of them.
Yes, and about to kill him.

1328
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,080
And about to kill him.
Rut ro, Rut ro.

1329
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,200
And even Cora's like Derek, you
better get the fuck out of here

1330
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,359
'cause I am not in control of
myself.

1331
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,240
Yeah.
But they can't.

1332
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,640
They can't leave.
They can't leave because Morrell

1333
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,600
decides to make some choices.
Yes, there is a line of mountain

1334
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,960
ash on the floor that Scott and
Morrell that Scott sees and

1335
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,800
Morrell opens the ball door to
complete the line of mountain

1336
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,120
ash and then walk away with
Dekalian.

1337
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,200
Ma'am, what are you doing?
What was What was this about?

1338
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,120
This is not the first time
you've gotten your hands dirty

1339
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,800
like goodbye.
Goodbye.

1340
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,560
What the fuck, Morel?
We'll come back to you in later

1341
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,920
episodes.
Deep sigh.

1342
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:23,120
So like it's Boyd versus Scott
and Cora versus Derek in this

1343
01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:26,400
where we'll fight to the death.
And obviously Derek is not going

1344
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,880
to fight that hard to hurt his
sister.

1345
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,080
No, just try to just try to get
her down.

1346
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:36,960
And so back, back, back in a few
seeds ago when Morel caught

1347
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,960
Allison, she's like, go and hide
in here until you hear the

1348
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,880
fighting.
Once you hear the fighting,

1349
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,440
it'll be safe for you to come
out.

1350
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,400
Yeah.
So not only did Morel know that

1351
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:55,360
werewolves were going to try to
like, come in in that moment on

1352
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,080
that night.
Have a rumble?

1353
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:02,080
And have a rumble that had the
entire mountain ash thing lined

1354
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,440
and and sealed so that Allison
could just come out and like,

1355
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:09,040
not get hit by the werewolves.
Like there is some serious

1356
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,880
plotting Morrell.
What's she doing?

1357
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,480
Weren't you supposed to be
working with Deaton?

1358
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:16,280
What's happening?
So many questions.

1359
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:22,400
So of course Allison decides to
come out and find the find the

1360
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,400
vault and proceed to break the
mountain ash line.

1361
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,760
Yes, which lets Cora and Boyd
loose.

1362
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,440
I I guess because they'd rather
run free than continue their

1363
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:35,880
fight.
Yeah, I I don't know, whatever.

1364
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,600
It sends them out into the
world.

1365
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:43,400
Which pisses Derek off because
now 2 slightly feral powerful

1366
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:48,400
werewolves are on the loose in
Beacon Hills and Derek is not

1367
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,520
happy about that shit.
Yeah, because he's going to have

1368
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,360
to go get them.
Yeah, yeah.

1369
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,080
And then so Derek and Allison
have their like first knock down

1370
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,440
drag out fight, but they really
needed to have for some time

1371
01:11:58,440 --> 01:11:59,800
now.
Yes.

1372
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,400
And Allison here, Gerard is not
my fault.

1373
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,560
It's like, on the one hand, no,
Gerard is not your fault.

1374
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,760
And also, can you acknowledge
what happened?

1375
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,680
She does not want to acknowledge
her part in anything, no.

1376
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,080
She doesn't and I just want her
to.

1377
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,080
I know and I know that what
makes for good TV and stories

1378
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,920
and everything are the flawed
characters, right?

1379
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,440
Like, if everyone was perfect
and lovely, we'd be like,

1380
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,280
boring, correct?
This is what?

1381
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,920
Makes her interesting, makes
her.

1382
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,600
Interesting, but and and there's
like old fucks that we are,

1383
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,160
we're looking down on teenagers
going hey make.

1384
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,400
Better choices?
No, of course.

1385
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,200
They can't make better choices.
No, you're trying to move

1386
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,280
through this fucking trauma of
being manipulated by your

1387
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,680
grandpa.
Like I I get it, but like

1388
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,520
they're also.
Characters in ATV show and like

1389
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,680
the writers are going taking
their little dolls are going

1390
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,480
correct they're just.
Playing Barbies, it's fine.

1391
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,840
They're just playing Barbies
with these characters.

1392
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,640
Someone has to be the punching
bag of bad choices.

1393
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:03,800
It's Allison.
You know, At the same time,

1394
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,160
there is something of like, the
white lady's never going to get

1395
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,000
in trouble.
Yeah, right.

1396
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,120
Like the rich white lady's not
going to get caught because her

1397
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,640
dad runs the weapons.
I really respected.

1398
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,320
He's a well respected federal
alarm stealer.

1399
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,920
No one's going to go after that
family.

1400
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,560
Gerard is not my fault.
And what about your mother?

1401
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,040
Tell her, Scott.
Well, like Scott.

1402
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,160
What does he mean?
What does he mean?

1403
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,000
Yeah, and also the line, like,
I'm not the one turning

1404
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,400
teenagers into killers, Like,
no, that's just the rest of your

1405
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:39,280
family.
Like oh Ouch, I like this fight

1406
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,480
a lot 'cause they.
Are no.

1407
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,800
It's.
Great going for it.

1408
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,640
And a special shout out to all
of the Derek and Allison

1409
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,080
shippers in the universe for
their enemies to lovers.

1410
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,160
Yes, this is true.
That is set up very nicely right

1411
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,600
here.
This is a good fight and it's a

1412
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,880
good fight because as opposed to
the fights that she has with

1413
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,360
like Scott, you know about like,
why don't you just let me be a

1414
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:06,640
person like Derek and Allison
have some like some beef, some

1415
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,600
actual beef.
Allison.

1416
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,000
Allison got manipulated by Kate,
the woman who burned down

1417
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,160
Derek's entire family and
seduced him as a teenager.

1418
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,840
Allison then proceeded to get
and like proceeded to like try

1419
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,640
to injure and kill like both
Derek and Scott and put our

1420
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,240
friends at risk.
Allison then proceeded to get

1421
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,640
abused and manipulated by her
grandfather in which she shot

1422
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,200
and captured and then aided
abetted the torture of Derek

1423
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Scott, Derek, Erica and Boyd
like I.

1424
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,880
It's all bad.
It's not good, not good.

1425
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,920
No bueno.
Gerard is not my fault.

1426
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:52,280
Like it's not your fault.
And also I like it's not my

1427
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,520
fault, but I am sorry for what
happened.

1428
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,400
But yeah, so it's like Derek is
trying so hard to not like out

1429
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Allison's mom, but it's like
Scott's got to do it.

1430
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,040
And Scott again is like, I
don't, I don't want to.

1431
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,800
And I get, I get it.
I get it.

1432
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,640
He's choosing to opt out.
Yep, Yep.

1433
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,520
And you can't do that now,
buddy.

1434
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,080
You can't do that now.
You got to make a choice.

1435
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:20,760
It's time, step it up.
And Speaking of weird editing

1436
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,000
choices.
Yeah.

1437
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,720
We have they're so they're in
like the bank and they're like

1438
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,920
fighting and fighting and
fighting and everything's great

1439
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,840
and fabulous.
And then we just just.

1440
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,960
Smash cuts to Lydia.
Smash cut to Lydia, who is like

1441
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,040
vaguely napping, sitting up in
her bed fully dressed.

1442
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,760
Yeah.
With this whole lights on.

1443
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,440
Yeah, I don't know, man.
This one was weird.

1444
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,680
I mean, a lot of stuff is weird,
but I was so discombobulated.

1445
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,480
Yeah, just cuts to Lydia who
wakes up from some sort of

1446
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,720
sleepy time who is full out
screaming.

1447
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,440
Bloody murder, just full tilt
screaming.

1448
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,280
Full out tilt screaming and that
is the end of the episode bye

1449
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,520
bye OK goodbye everyone it's
nice to talk to you we'll.

1450
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,840
Catch you like I I really like
this episode.

1451
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,040
Chaos Rising is correct.
Like, things are happening, the

1452
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,480
scary things are happening.
We've lost Erica, we've received

1453
01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:15,920
Cora.
People are making choices.

1454
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,720
Allison is coming in to her like
era Lydia is.

1455
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,760
Something's happening to Lydia.
But at least she's read in now

1456
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,840
and has a support network.
We've got a missing girl, so we

1457
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,680
have another case on our hands.
Derek's got a new home.

1458
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,680
Peter is still lurking.
AC.

1459
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,400
We've got an alpha pack still.
We've got a some sort of a bad

1460
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,640
with Dekalian.
We don't know what he's up to

1461
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,000
and it's only the second episode
of the season.

1462
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,840
Yep.
So I really like I love the

1463
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:44,960
season.
I really do.

1464
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,160
It's it's great.
We're we're cooking what's?

1465
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,720
It cooking with gas.
Cooking with gas.

1466
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,480
Also, just whichever writer or
editor decided to give us so

1467
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:59,680
many little steric Nuggets,
thank you, thank you, thank you

1468
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,280
so.
If you have any of those on the

1469
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,560
cutting room floor for the rest
of the seasons, do you know pas

1470
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,960
them over?
Hook a girl up.

1471
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,280
Also some massive massive shout
outs to Scott and Isaac in this

1472
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,680
episode where Isaac in his
moment of like death and decay,

1473
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,080
reaches out not for his alpha,
but for his alpha.

1474
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,560
You do not for Scott.
I love Isaac and Scott so much.

1475
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:27,800
I do, I do.
I love them so much, so good.

1476
01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:31,000
Shout out to Dana Sherman for
willing to get into that tub.

1477
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,760
Who knows how cold it actually
was.

1478
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,160
I don't know.
It was behind the scenes.

1479
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,400
Probably wasn't pleasant.
Probably not great.

1480
01:17:36,440 --> 01:17:40,400
Probably not great.
So yes, another excellent,

1481
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,440
excellent episode.
So excited to keep going.

1482
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,760
Poor Erica.
She is living in Jackson's

1483
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,320
apartment.
They are starting the European

1484
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,800
Parliament.
She has.

1485
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,480
Surely he has like a townhouse,
like a hole you've.

1486
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,680
Got something they're starting,
you know, Hailpack

1487
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:02,240
International.
It's fine.

1488
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,840
It's.
Fine, a consortium.

1489
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,280
A hailpack consortium.
Yeah, they can keep track of the

1490
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,040
goings on in in Europe indeed.
I'll take it, I'll take it.

1491
01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:15,600
Indeed.
OK, Do you think we missed

1492
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,120
anything?
I.

1493
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:18,080
Think we're?
I don't think so.

1494
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,240
Solid.
OK, I.

1495
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:21,280
Think we're good?
This episode is fantastic.

1496
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,360
It is fantastic.
I do want to note I've been

1497
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:29,280
going to the Wolf subreddit and
finding the official discussion

1498
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,520
threads from the episodes from
like 11 years ago and reading

1499
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,480
through them after I watched the
episode to see what people were

1500
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:39,360
saying.
Because you know, at the time

1501
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,160
when it was airing.
Because it's hilarious.

1502
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,960
And when Lydia does her little
screamy thing, people are like,

1503
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,280
Oh my God, what's going on?
And one person, So I don't know,

1504
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,680
spoilers for later episode
seasons or whatever.

1505
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,160
One person was like, I don't
know, maybe she's a banshee.

1506
01:18:57,480 --> 01:19:01,080
And that was when this episode
aired 11 years ago.

1507
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:03,680
Nice.
I was like, well played.

1508
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:08,320
Well done, well spotted.
I was like, congratulations.

1509
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,640
So it's not like they went back
to the thread and added and it

1510
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,280
was like live blogging as the
episode was airing, Yeah.

1511
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,680
Nice, nice, nice.
Which means that the writers

1512
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,640
actually left enough clues to
get picked up.

1513
01:19:20,440 --> 01:19:24,200
Or they're so, like, into lore
that it was enough for them to

1514
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,840
be like, well, I know enough
about, you know, to be able to

1515
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:27,680
pick up clues.
Yeah.

1516
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,200
About supernatural creatures to
be like, I wonder what?

1517
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,080
Yep.
Yes, it's very, very exciting.

1518
01:19:33,440 --> 01:19:36,320
And I guess we can't.
I guess we can say it's such old

1519
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,760
news.
So Erica was killed off in the

1520
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:44,760
season because her actress Gage
Golightly left the show to film

1521
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,480
a pilot for a different series,
which happens, right?

1522
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:52,640
It's the same reason that
Jackson's actor left, but her

1523
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:58,040
pilot never got picked up for a
series order, and then she still

1524
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,760
decided not to come back to the
show.

1525
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,280
I miss you, Erica.
So I'm sorry that your show

1526
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,160
didn't get picked up to Siri's
order.

1527
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,280
We miss you.
Hopefully like.

1528
01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:10,560
You didn't come back to Teen
Wolf.

1529
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,920
Please know that we live on in
fandom and in our hearts.

1530
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,440
Yeah, like, hopefully the
conditions were such that you

1531
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:17,960
just, like you weren't unhappy
and just thought you'd have a

1532
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,760
better opportunity somewhere
else.

1533
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,880
I don't know.
Yeah, she was in other shows

1534
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,720
later, but yeah.
Yeah, Hope you're doing.

1535
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,560
Hope you're doing great.
Yep, so it's not like they

1536
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,120
killed her off just to do it.
The actress had another

1537
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,680
opportunity, which happens, but
it's a bummer for Erica Stance

1538
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,200
and the plot.
Line there's also a Speaking of

1539
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,000
like Erica going off and her
after doing other things.

1540
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,400
There was a gift set when Olivia
Rodrigo's driver's license came

1541
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,360
out by a user on the Internet
named Baricas.

1542
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,080
Obviously.
Hi I love you.

1543
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,000
You're incredibly wonderful and
very talented.

1544
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,960
Who did like a gift set of Boyd
and Erica with driver's license?

1545
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,600
Wait, if you find it again we
should link it on Patreon.

1546
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,000
Oh my God, yes, it's so good.
I think that was fair because

1547
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,320
who did it?
I'm giving you a lot of credit,

1548
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,400
even if you didn't do this one.
I think you did though about

1549
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,400
like Boyd learning to drive.
Cute about.

1550
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,480
Like, and passing Erica's house.
Yeah.

1551
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:15,400
Because like, Erica never got
her driver's license.

1552
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,480
And it's like, yeah.
And it was, it was beautiful.

1553
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:23,040
And so I'll try to find it.
OK, I.

1554
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:24,320
Like it?
Yeah, so.

1555
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,760
Yeah, another A+ episode.
Yes indeed, good stuff and we

1556
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,600
will see you all next episode we
got.

1557
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,800
This wild, wild season on the
horizon.

1558
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Thank you for listening.
You can find us on the Internet,

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Fandom on the rocks, you know
the drill, patreon.com/fandom on

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the rocks, etcetera, so on and
so forth.

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We will see you next time you've
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So until next time, keep your
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