(S3E5) Pack Dynamics: A Teen Wolf Podcast - Frayed

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You're listening to PAC
Dynamics, a Fandom on the Rocks

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podcast.
Hello.

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Welcome back to PAC Dynamics AT
Wolf Podcast.

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I am Emily.
And I'm Allison.

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And once again, save it for the
pod save.

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It for the pod we just get so
excited or you know, neutral at

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best but we keep talking so.
We'll never learn.

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No, we'll never learn.
I'm really sorry.

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Like I, I, I think in a
different universe, we could

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just hit record as soon as we
start talking.

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And for those of you who are
like super excited, we can put

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the first like 40 minutes of our
conversation like on Patreon.

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But I promise we're not that
interesting to anybody but each

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other.
If you wanna know what we did

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over the weekend.
Oh my gosh.

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Hi, the weather is gorgeous.
I mean, not today, but yeah,

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that kind of.
We finally have some sun.

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I have some tulips in the
backyard that are like my May

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June tulips are like, Oh my God,
is it sunny enough to be alive?

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And I'm like not, not yet.
Not yet.

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Not yet, baby, you didn't.
So our, our let me tell you, our

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crocuses have not come up, but
our tulips are trying.

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Yikes.
Like friends, my dudes.

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Yeah, it is definitely late
April when we're recording this,

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so.
The grass is growing because

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it's raining and it's like
you're not going to live that

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long.
No, you're not going to live

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that long.
Stop it.

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Good luck, buds.
But yeah, that's the kind of

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hard hitting investigative
reporting that you get from this

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podcast for the 1st 20 minutes
before we remember to hit

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record.
So I mean, we could do that, but

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I don't, I don't know that you
want that medical mysteries that

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we talk about before we start.
How is what's going on in the

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body?
Yeah.

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How is how is it?
How is your job?

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How's how are things?
How is the weather?

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How was your dinner?
How's the fam?

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Have you had breakfast?
How was your coffee?

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It was good.
I put cashew milk in it 'cause

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my friend was making cashew
milk.

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Well, that sounds delicious.
Actually, it does.

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It really is that.
Sounds great.

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Yeah, you know, homemade cashew
milk.

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Crunchy Pacific Northwest
bitches up here.

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Yeah, it's all right.
So what the actual episode?

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This is season 3 episode 5.
Frayed during a bus ride to a

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cross country meet, Scott and
his friends Flashback to the

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events of a pre emptive strike
against the Alphas that has left

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several injured and possibly one
or more dead.

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This episode aired July 1st,
2013.

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OK, so my problem with this
episode is that my brain and my

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ability to pay attention to it
was also frayed.

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Yes, I think that's the title is
about the audience trying to

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figure out what is happening and
when.

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However, and it's a big and yet,
so many things happen in this

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episode that are near and dear
to my heart.

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Right.
So it's like so many little tiny

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chunks and pieces are like, Oh
my God, that's how this happens.

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I'm so excited that I have to
sit through 20 minutes of blue

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and I'm like.
Yes, the blue I as I was telling

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Allison, I color-coded my notes
trying to keep track of the

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scenes.
The blue scenes are the fight

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scenes because the filter is
blue.

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It's so blue.
Obviously the yellow scenes are

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on the bus because the bus is
yellow.

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Right.
And the blue scenes are are blue

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because that's the that's the
filter that's in what I can only

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assume is the mall from Harley
Quinn.

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OK, yes, I was like, where is
this happening?

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It looks like the abandoned mall
from Harley Quinn.

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Yeah.
Oh, there's just an abandoned

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mall I guess in Beacon Hills,
like somewhere.

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With at least three stories.
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A three story mall in the middle
of California that is so old and

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dilapidated that it's just like
broken with like detritus

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everywhere.
The middle of Northern

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California, dude.
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The green.
Scenes The green scenes are

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Derek's loft because of Derek's
eyes.

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Of course, of course, of course.
Yep, the red scenes are Allison

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and Lydia cause girlfriends.
Yeah, Avi.

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And then orange is Deaton and
the.

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Yes.
That's how I how I color-coded.

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Yeah, 'cause we bounce around a
lot in this episode, as I was

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saying earlier.
Like, I'm not saying that the

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timeline isn't like an
unreliable narrator in this

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episode, but like, the
timeline's a freaking unreliable

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narrator.
Like it's already non linear,

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It's already messy as hell, but
like you repeat the same scene

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like over and over and over
again.

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I'm just like, OK guys.
Oh, OK, here we go.

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So I'm also really curious if
you think the non linear

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structure like adds to the
episode or not.

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I like, I get.
I get why they do it.

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Yeah, I get why they did it for
this particular episode.

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And I would say, and maybe I'll
turn my mind by the end of the

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episode after talking to you
about it, I don't really know,

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but I would say as of like right
this second, I think it's better

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with than without.
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Because like, as we'll get into
the entire like emotional crux

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of the episode is that spoiler
alert, Derek is dead.

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Yes.
And the entire time, like Derek

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is dead and Scott's not healing.
And so like those two things are

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the the emotional linchpins of
the episode.

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And you kind of have to figure
out like, how did we get to

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those two things and why did we
get to those two things?

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But getting to those two things,
I feel like we missed a bunch of

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stuff in the middle.
And like, that's why you have

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the flashbacks.
But like, I needed a filler

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episode beforehand.
Like I, I, I feel like we missed

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some scenes again, I don't like
the ending to this episode.

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I wish we could have pulled it
forward a smidgen just like open

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the next episode with this.
Well, yeah, 'cause it does kind

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of like kill the suspense.
It does.

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It completely kills the
suspense.

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And I was reading some stuff
came up on my timeline earlier

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talking about, you know, the
fandom and their sort of

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negative reactions.
That because the fandom has

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historically had negative
reactions to Scott.

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Sure.
Like by and large, the the

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fandom dislikes Scott more than
they like Scott.

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And that's, I think unfair.
I get where they're coming from

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from a little tiny bit.
And a lot of it has to do with

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racism and a lot of it has to do
with like the, the, the, the,

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the Blurbo vacation of of
styles, blur, Blurbo ification.

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Blurbo, yeah.
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And like this person on the
Internet was talking kind of

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about the way that Scott, like
you just have to come up with

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Scott's meta in order to process
his whole plot line the way that

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you do everybody else.
Like if you just, if you, if you

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just in your own mind try to be
where the, where the writers

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are, then like you're like, oh,
OK, it would have been super

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cool if you had said this out
loud somewhere 'cause you're

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again, I, I, I watched this
episode a few hours ago.

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I wrote everything down and I'm
still not entirely sure if it

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said it out loud that the reason
that Scott doesn't heal is

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because of guilt.
Yeah, they dance around it.

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And close to the end of that,
it's because Derek died.

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Yeah, but like, we've never seen
that before and I don't think

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we'll ever see it again.
No, they're as far as I remember

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and we've been watching these
episodes 1 by 1 and not in the

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not too recent past.
In the not too recent past,

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yeah.
They haven't healed because of

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alpha wounds.
They haven't healed because of

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of magic like wolfsbane being
stuck in there.

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They haven't healed because like
the the bullet was still in the

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wound, but not because of an
emotional tether to the wound.

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Right, this is a new seems to be
a new problem.

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So like, what do you think
maybe?

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Derek would have experienced in
the past.

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What do you think maybe Derek
would have experienced in the

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past?
Right.

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Like he's been getting his ass
kicked lately and doesn't seem

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to have any feels about it.
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Like his body seems to be not
reacting at all to anything.

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Like, you know, you would figure
that, you know, Boyd may have

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had some wounds about Erica and
that like he wouldn't have

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healed or that, you know, some
there's there's there's other

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stuff in there that this could
have stretched into.

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But it's some mystical, magical
combination that we kind of have

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to to give him ourselves before
we're like, oh, OK, that makes

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sense.
Like they just they don't give

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it to us like they do with
everybody else.

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And that's a bummer because
somebody in the room had this

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idea.
And it's a really strong

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emotional play for Scott.
But like, you have to tell us

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that it's happening, or at least
show it to us in a way that we

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don't second guess it.
Well, especially if it doesn't

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happen again.
It's like it's a a really

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important and powerful way to
bring down a strong character

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that you don't use again.
Right.

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It's it's a really important
mechanism that would, I don't

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think it comes back.
And that's The thing is that I

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don't think it comes back.
I don't remember it, but there's

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the later seasons are one I
haven't seen six and two.

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Five is real fuzzy.
Like I've seen them in the

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Knothole.
I've seen I saw them about a

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year ago and I just I don't
think this comes back and like

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it should like it should that
happens that.

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Happened.
The things that happened in

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seasons 3 and 4, like there are
wounds that should not heal

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ever, like I, I, but if you can,
if you can put, if you can, like

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kind of draw that out and
finally put that hat on for

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Scott.
It makes the entire episode make

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so much more sense.
They just like I, I just, I wish

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they had been a little more
clear about it.

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I'm a, I'm kind of a dumb movie
watcher.

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I really don't enjoy not having
important things handed to me in

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fiction.
Like if, if you're, if I need to

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be taught a piece of, of, of
subject, then like awesome.

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But like if you just left it out
because you wanted me to make it

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up for myself, like that's a
different problem.

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Like I just so.
I mean, these things become

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fundamental parts of the lore
that if they don't happen again,

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you're like, so why was it only
that one time?

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Exactly, Yeah.
Why is Gil?

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Yeah, why is Gil only important
this one time?

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Oh, just for the plot.
OK, well.

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Yeah, and it's like we'll we'll
get to a whole other episode on

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guilt here in a little bit.
Sure, whole boy.

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But there's another piece of
lore and I think it happens a

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little later.
I think that they really needed

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to have here and I will explain
it when we get there.

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Next time on.
Next time on no, like so it's

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one of those things that I I, I
was watching the characters do a

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thing and I was like, is this
lore in my head from thick?

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Oh.
Have we just not gotten there at

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Canon yet?
Fan and her cannon baby.

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Fan and her cannon.
Fan and her cannon like so like

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it's it's really, really
interesting because like they've

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they've put Scott between a rock
and a hard place and they're not

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actually helping us to empathize
with him at all other than like

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he's adorable and is in pain.
Yeah.

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Like we really, we really,
really, really need to like to

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to to give him to show the
actual reasons for why he is

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suffering as opposed to just
letting him suffer and be sad.

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Stoic.
He doesn't deserve just pain out

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of absolutely nowhere.
He doesn't deserve pain at all.

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But like, as a storytelling
device, his pain should be

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should mean something, as
opposed to just like, rotting in

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the bus.
And no one noticing.

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And no one notices but styles.
Like.

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I mean I.
Had questions about that

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altogether throughout this if
like no one sees this happening.

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Yeah, no one sees, no one cares.
People are about to fight and no

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one notices?
I don't think so.

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Yeah, also the tone of this
episode was super, super weird,

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which I think though, again, is
on purpose because it's one of

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those things that, like, the
episode parts that were like sad

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and emotional and kind of like,
intense are just kind of hanging

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out in Scott's head while
everyone else is kind of having

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a goofy, exhausting kind of
time.

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Like Scott is just like
existential crisis at the wazoo.

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And it's just slowly dying and
everyone.

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Else dying.
Goofy day on a bus.

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Yeah, so OK, we should get
started cause a lot happens in

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this episode and somehow nothing
happens in this episode.

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They're on a bus.
They are on a bus, they are

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outside the school for once and
we're going to a cross country

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meet.
Coach Finsock is not happy about

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the whole situation but he's not
happy about anything today.

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He's not going to have a good
day Boyd.

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So our setup is that Boyd and
Isaac are sitting together as

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they should be as pack mates.
As they should be.

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As they should be.
They are finally Bros.

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Because Isaac has, Isaac has,
Boyd has two friends Boyd has

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only one of them is dead.
I know, I know, I know.

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So they're sitting like what,
mid bus?

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Yeah, ish.
Danny is sitting with Ethan.

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Yes, because he's gonna get his
flirt on.

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He's getting his flirt on, and
they're sitting like a row

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behind and to the side.
Yeah.

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Of Boyd and Isaac.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And then in the back of the bus,
Styles is sitting with Scott.

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So we have our little tableau of
our important characters so that

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Scott and Styles can keep track
of both Danny and Ethan, but

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also Boyd and Isaac, because
Boyd and Isaac are, well, Boyd

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especially is tense.
Ethan is checking his phone for

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something all the time.
Picking, picking, picking,

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picking.
Something's happening there, and

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Boyd is not happy about it, but
Boyd's not happy about the fact

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that Erica's dead.
Ethan is kind of a bad guy, but

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flirting with Danny, who's kind
of a good guy.

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The whole bus is just ripe with
testosterone and pheromones, and

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no one else on the bus seems to
notice any of the tension.

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What's?
Literally none.

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Literally none.
They're just like go to the

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cross country meet, we're going
to go running in the woods.

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Go into the meet.
Whereas the five people plus

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Danny are all sitting there
going like murder, murder, no

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murder, not today.
Perhaps murder, Perhaps today.

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Styles and Scott are like sort
of studying for like the Sats,

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but Styles really wants to talk
about the Dirac.

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Meanwhile, Scott is like
bleeding through his shirt from

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a big gash in his side that is
not healing.

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We don't know what happened
because we are in media in in is

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it in media race in media's res.
We've we've started this

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episode.
In media res in the middle of

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things.
In the middle of things, we

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don't know what's happened, but
Scott says I can't believe he's

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dead.
I can't believe Derek is dead.

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And my little, my little brain
goes like, hasn't he died like

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200 times so far?
That man is impervious.

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I know you kind of think like,
well, no, I mean the yeah, Kali

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put the pole in him, but like,
he's fine.

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Like.
He's been slashed apart in one

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episode, he got a pull through
him in the very next episode

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like.
Didn't like in season 1.

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Didn't they leave his body for
dead after he got shanked by the

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he?
Totally did.

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It's fine.
He drowned in the pool like he's

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fine.
He must have an inexhaustible

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supply of T-shirts because they
keep getting ruined.

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He's literally fine but
apparently they think he is

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dead.
So.

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Something something has happened
between when this scene is

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occurring and when the dead
happened, which should be a clue

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for everyone that this episode
is not like the others.

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And it is very, very much not
like the others.

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It doesn't it doesn't it?
Although they do do this episode

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structure again better in a few
episodes.

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OK, maybe the riders just got
bored and they're like, let's

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let's play around with our our
note cards and just like whoosh

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them all up.
Let's see.

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So actually it might be coming
up sooner than we think.

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So, yeah.
So there's an episode here in

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season 3 called Visionary.
It's 3/8 that they'll do this

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structure again, but it's
better.

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So like this was like the test
run and like not bad but the

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next one is better.
OK, yeah, this episode gets

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messy.
Truly messy.

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It doesn't seem like it's going
to because the next scene after

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the credits are Allison and
Lydia following the bus in their

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car.
He's adorable, so.

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Cute.
They're so cute, I love them so

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much.
And they're having a

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conversation like, you know,
after what happened and as the

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audience, you're like, what
happened?

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What happened?
And Allison's like, this all

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started after he came knocking
at my door, which cues kind of

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our first flashback.
And at some point in the

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timeline, Scott has confronted
Allison about the Arrowhead that

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he found outside of the school.
When Isaac and Boyd were getting

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Erica to turn back when they
were corralling the Oh my name,

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Isaac got Boyd and Erica.
Boyd and Cora.

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Boyd and Cora, sorry, yes, I
wrote Erica.

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I know I.
Know for some.

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Reason I wrote Erica because my
heart.

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Cause my heart, my heart says
it's Erica.

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My heart says it's Erica when
they when Isaac got Boyd and I

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know I said Erica and then my
brain went, that's not right.

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Cora to turn back into you know,
they're corralling them into the

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school to get into the boiler
room so that they can keep the

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the angry betas from destroying
the whole of the town.

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And that was was that in chaos
rising or was that fireflies,

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fire fireflies?
But that was when we saw Allison

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kind of like helping but not
helping and not telling the pack

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that she was doing this, but she
was somehow knew their plan.

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But she left that Arrowhead
behind the armor piercing

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titanium arrowheads, and
Allison's like trying to play it

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off like it's not hers but it's
very obviously hers.

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And they have this like cute
flirty moment in her bedroom

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over who could take who in a
fight like until.

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And then they proceed to like,
attempt to politely attack each

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other and then very clearly
wins, even though Allison's

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like, Allison could just like,
smooch her way out of the

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scenario but like, it doesn't.
And then she gets all butthurt

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about it.
It's like horny until it's not.

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Yeah, it's really horny until
it's not.

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Yep.
And yeah, she gets real butthurt

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even though kind of obviously
he's a big old werewolf.

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Yeah, and she doesn't have any
of her weapons.

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Yeah, I.
Don't.

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Know what you thought was going
to happen here?

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And obviously he's not going to
hurt you.

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But Scott does warn her about
the rest of the alphas, and

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she's a little egotistical about
the situation, which is a little

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Ellison's fault.
Yeah, that's not a new thing for

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her.
She is very much like I can take

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care of myself, I've got this.
Like you don't got this, the

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pack doesn't got this.
Yeah, the pack doesn't got this.

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The pack does not got this.
They don't got this.

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You're you're you're you're
toast.

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It's not cute.
But when when Scott leaves, he

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does run into Dekalian in the
elevator.

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Dun Dun.
Which is not great.

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No.
You're not sure like what day

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this occurs, because this scene
then goes to Scott barging into

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Derek's loft to tell them that
the Alphas are in the same

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building as the Origins, but
they're already gathered around

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a war table.
And they already know.

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They already know that they're
in Allison's building.

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And Scott's like, why didn't you
tell me?

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And Derek's like, 'cause I
didn't.

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'Cause I didn't, I didn't feel
like it.

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And they have already made plans
to do like a pre emptive strike

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against the alphas.
And that so it's Derek Peter

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Boyncora.
Yeah, which does feel like a

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terrible idea.
Horrible.

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It's a terrible idea.
And also Derek, middle name

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Hale.
Why is Isaac not at your table?

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Yeah.
Where is where is Mr. Leahy,

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Sir?
I guess he's at school and or

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Scott's house.
And or Scott's house for sure,

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for sure.
'Cause it it seems to be night

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time.
Yeah.

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But it is always dark in Derek's
loft, so it's hard to tell what

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time.
It is.

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It's.
True.

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So I mean, following the story,
I mean, we could attack this

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like structurally or just, I
mean, you can't really attack it

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structurally because if you want
to follow the episode, you're

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trying to follow the emotional
arc.

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Yeah.
And it's then that's The thing

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is that you have to follow the
emotional arc, which is solid,

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but it's really hard to explain
to somebody who, like, isn't

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coming along for the ride
because the episode assumes that

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you have warm fuzzies for Scott
and that you have warm fuzzies

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for Derek.
And without either of those

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things, the emotional arc
doesn't really work.

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As we sit here and talk about
this, though, like and like, I

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think we're gonna, I'm just
gonna have to stop talking about

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this until the end of the
episode because it just, it

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doesn't work for me.
Yeah.

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I have to add a lot of extra
gravy in order to make this

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work.
Sure, sure, sure.

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I make good gravy so we could.
Yeah, we can.

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We can do this.
You know who doesn't love good

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gravy?
You know who doesn't?

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Dekalian Carsick Jared.
Oh well OK, but what we forgot

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right here is before we get to
Carsick Jared, the The episode

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is like Derek says Scott is
going to help them and we get

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our first blue scene.
Yes, slow MO, blue tinged where

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we'll fight.
And, and it's just a quick shot

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of a battle with the Wolves
music and absolutely everybody

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getting their ass kicked.
But we're going to get real

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familiar with the blue scenes
because they're repetitive.

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It's just a fight of everyone
getting trounced on.

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And everyone's makeup is looking
a little extra.

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Yeah, yeah.
So these are these are the they

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are.
I put them as flash forward but

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they're just blue scenes and.
They're, they're just, they're

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just blue 'cause I think
technically they're flashbacks,

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but they're a flash forward from
where we left off.

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Exactly.
Yeah.

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So it's a flash forward from the
loft, but it's a flashback from

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the bus.
Yes.

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So it's.
Listen, having watched Lost has

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really prepared me for
flashbacks and forwards and

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also.
Sideways.

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Also sideways, correct?
Yes, that one was Glee.

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That one was the puppet episode.
No, my God, we're coming up on

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the puppet episode, so.
Soon.

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I'm so excited.
Yeah.

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But no.
And then we get to my favorite,

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my favorite bystander of this
entire episode, which is Carsick

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Jared.
As somebody who gets so carsick

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and so motion sick all the time,
I understand his pain.

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I'm sitting in the front of the
bus.

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I'm staring at the horizon.
Don't talk to me.

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Don't look at me.
Just let me get outside.

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I I can't be mad at Carsick
Jared on this.

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I have no hate for this man,
this boy.

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I how does nobody have medicine?
Well, they're all, they're all

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teenage boys.
They're all teenagers.

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They're all.
Teenage boys too.

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I mean, maybe we could have some
of her purse, but she's not the

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bus.
But yeah, this poor boy, poor

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boy.
And we'll see him again a little

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later.
But Scott, Scott is bleeding

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through his shirt and Ethan is
using his werewolf ears to

453
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,240
listen to Stiles and Scott.
But everyone's pretty sure that

454
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,440
no one is going to start a fight
fight on the bus.

455
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,400
But who is going to start a
fight is back at the loft, which

456
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,360
is a flashback.
And they are talking about how

457
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:58,080
the alphas are in the penthouse
one floor above the Arjuns.

458
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,840
And I thought it was interesting
in this moment that Derek says

459
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,400
Allison and not the Arjuns.
I don't know if that means

460
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,440
anything, but he's like, the
alphas are in the penthouse one

461
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,640
floor above Allison, not the
Argents.

462
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800
Well, there could be a few
reasons for this.

463
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560
He hates Chris.
Well, no, he's started to bro

464
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,640
out with Chris a little.
Bit yeah, no, they're definitely

465
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,280
fucking.
It's fine.

466
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,040
That's that's reason number one.
Or Peter and Chris have finally

467
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,680
started to get together and
Peter has put a kibosh on any

468
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720
referring to Chris in the house.
Yeah.

469
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:34,520
But I think really it's because
in the very like, haphazardly

470
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000
way that they tend to do this,
Derek is trying to bring Scott

471
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,800
in on the plan.
Like, you're going to help us.

472
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,200
But Derek knows that the only
way he can get Scott is through

473
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,480
Allison.
Like, because in this moment,

474
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,320
like, they haven't.
They had it in season 1 and they

475
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800
had it a little bit more in
season 2.

476
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,200
But like in season 3, Derek and
Scott are no longer like as

477
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,560
close as they used to be, which
is why this whole episode kind

478
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,120
of like peers me out because
Derek could be like Scott, will

479
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,560
you help us?
But instead he goes like Scott's

480
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,240
helping and like Allison.
It's it's like because of

481
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,440
Allison, although Derek does
defend Scott here in this

482
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,760
meeting it.
Does.

483
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,520
Maybe Derek has like more warm
fuzzies, I don't know.

484
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,040
Their relationship is so
confusing for me.

485
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,520
Yes, I mean, Allison was gonna
kill his entire pack.

486
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,200
Yes, and try it and succeed in a
little bit.

487
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,120
Yeah, and yet he's like Allison.
Not a shit shit bag of origins.

488
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:39,960
I don't know.
It was weird.

489
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,440
It was, it was a little, it was
a little weird.

490
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,800
It stood out.
So they they have decided that

491
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,240
they're gonna go after decalion
only but.

492
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
But Scott's gonna work.
I know, right?

493
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,240
But Scott's like, why?
Why are we just murdering

494
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,800
people?
And weirdly, Peter is kind of

495
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,760
siding with Scott in this
debate, but I think Peter just

496
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,680
sides with whoever is not Derek.
Correct.

497
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,640
Why is the default plan always
murder?

498
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,440
It's a good question.
That's a reasonable question,

499
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,880
Scott.
It is he.

500
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,880
He's not wrong.
So, you know, we've got a little

501
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,600
dissension in the ranks ahead of
the big plan.

502
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040
Probably not a great way to
start their fight.

503
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,080
No, absolutely not.
But we we flashback to present

504
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:29,280
the bus is present where Boyd
has started to lose control of

505
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,880
himself inside the bus.
His eyes are going yellow, his

506
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,160
claws are out.
It's it's not great.

507
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,080
And also not great is back in
the car.

508
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,200
They are.
They are running out of gas.

509
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Also like, OK, I'm gonna rewind
it then Fast forward because

510
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,880
this is this is how this is how
we do.

511
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,720
So you know that question like
if you could change anything

512
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,240
about yourself, what would you
change?

513
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,400
Mm hmm.
And how everyone always gives

514
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480
some like, no, I'm proud of who
I am.

515
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,640
I'm proud of where I've come
from.

516
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,240
Kind of answers.
Yeah.

517
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,200
I wish I wasn't that motion sick
and that I could read in the

518
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440
car.
I saw Lydia reading the fucking

519
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,960
like textbook in the car and I
was like, I'm so jealous.

520
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,320
What do you mean you can read in
the car?

521
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,480
Dude 100% like.
I wish my tummy was stable

522
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,120
enough that I could read in the
car.

523
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,840
Sometimes if I'm, I mean, I try
not to be the passenger anyway,

524
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560
but sometime when I am the
passenger and someone's like,

525
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,600
hey, can you just check the map?
Like no.

526
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,840
No.
I can't check Google Maps for

527
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,920
you.
It is so like so the fella and I

528
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400
take a bunch of Rd. trips and
because our car is manual

529
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,040
transmission and I can't drive
stick, I'm just the permanent

530
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,800
passenger Princess and so I'm
the one in charge of music.

531
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Oh no.
And as I have to switch them

532
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120
back and forth because it's
Bluetooth, I have to there's

533
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,440
like this whole like rig and
roll pushing buttons thing I

534
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,200
have to do.
And it's like if I don't know

535
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,440
exactly what I'm doing, I get
carsick by the end of the music

536
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,880
switch.
And I'm like, I hate everything

537
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,760
about this.
It's.

538
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Awful.
I wish my tummy were stable like

539
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Lydia Martins. 100% yeah, I I
would.

540
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,800
I mean, I don't know if it's the
if I only had one thing to

541
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,440
change, I don't know if it would
be the one thing, but it is up

542
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960
there.
It's it's it's never be in.

543
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,120
Motion there, yeah, 'cause I
'cause then, I mean not, yeah.

544
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040
To like, not to utterly derail
'cause then you think that would

545
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,920
take care of, like, roller
coaster rides?

546
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,480
Yeah, I can't get on roller
coaster rides.

547
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,920
I mean I can, but not not as
much.

548
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,320
What I miss are the spinny
rides.

549
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,040
Oh yeah, I can't get on any of
those.

550
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Yeah, I, I had a real bad
experience at the fair last

551
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,880
year, so it took me out for like
a day and a half.

552
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Yeah, yeah, we can talk about
hair and we can talk about

553
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,960
anxiety and we can talk about
hip joint pain.

554
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560
But like, really, it's the
motion sickness for me.

555
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,360
It's motion sick, like, you
know, a, a rough ride on a boat.

556
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,000
Oh.
Of roughly an airplane roughly.

557
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Yeah, so, so Jared, one of us,
we feel you.

558
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Liddy is doing her like fucking
physics homework in the car and

559
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,200
I'm just I'm, I'm, I'm screaming
at the screen like how dare you,

560
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Carsick.
Jared would never.

561
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,000
Yeah, so props to Lydia for
being better than all of us all

562
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,160
the time.
All the time.

563
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,200
She.
It is revealed, though, that

564
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,960
Allison brought Lydia along to
keep an eye on her because of

565
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,920
her burgeoning relationship with
Aiden.

566
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,800
Situationship.
Situationship, yes.

567
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:41,560
Oh wow, situationship.
Her situationship with Aiden and

568
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Lydia's like there is no
situationship.

569
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,120
And then we again, we flash to
what I assume is a different day

570
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,960
where she is like full on making
out with Aiden.

571
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Is she still in coach's office
like she was with Scott?

572
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040
I think so.
I mean, some somebody's office

573
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,160
is getting desecrated.
And I love her.

574
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,760
What am IA nun?
Put them somewhere useful.

575
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,280
Yeah, Lydia.
I'm like, you go, girl, good.

576
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,720
This is, again, Lydia Martin is
better than me.

577
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,640
She is.
She knows what she wants and

578
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480
she's able to clearly and
consistently ask for it.

579
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800
She's able to say yes and she's
able to say no.

580
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,520
And I love this for her.
Yep, yeah, she's a great

581
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,000
character.
I love her.

582
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600
I love she's on the upswing.
Lydia's just on the upswing.

583
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,880
She just keeps getting better
from here.

584
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,760
I love it.
Me too.

585
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,920
So that takes us back to the
elevator.

586
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Back to no, we don't go back to
blue.

587
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,760
No, 'cause first we go first, we
go back to the elevator with

588
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Scott and Decalian where Duke is
kind of like threatening and

589
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,880
taunting him 'cause he wants to
see what Scott is made of.

590
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:52,440
And that takes us to Blue, where
Derek gets thrown over a ledge

591
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120
in a fight with what's his face,
Ennis.

592
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,800
So.
Before.

593
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Before he gets thrown off the
edge, I do every once in a

594
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840
while.
The stunt performers who are

595
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040
doing these will pull out
wrestling moves.

596
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,600
A lot of pro wrestlers will do
like stunt work because that's

597
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,640
what pro wrestlers are, is
they're stunt performers.

598
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,240
And for those of you who don't
know, I'm a big pro wrestling

599
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,320
junkie.
And so Derek does this move

600
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,720
called the Superman punch made
famous by Roman Reigns.

601
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,120
So he like leaps up and then he
just like punches down on Ennis.

602
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,880
And I saw that and I cracked up
because I'm like.

603
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,600
Then he and Derek Hale comes in
with the Superman punch.

604
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,840
Nice.
Fucking hilarious.

605
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
But yeah no.
So that Derek and Ennis are like

606
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,720
fighting and grappling and then
they go over a ledge.

607
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Bye bye.
And down, down several flights,

608
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,080
several, several stories, onto a
staircase.

609
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Yeah, and Derek's just like
lying very politely dead on the

610
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:57,280
escalator and.
And RIP, RIP Derek, He's ripped

611
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Derek.
And so we get a of, it's not a

612
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,520
flash forward, but it's like a
little time skip post battle.

613
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,480
So we're still blue, but we get
a one-on-one conversation with

614
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Peter and Cora, yes, which I
believe is their first

615
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,880
one-on-one combo I in the in the
show.

616
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,080
I do believe.
And it's uncle, Uncle Peter who

617
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,560
killed Sister Laura.
I really I appreciate how pissed

618
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,600
off Cora still is about that.
Me too.

619
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Me too.
Yeah.

620
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,920
And they, they are both trying
to decide who can trust who

621
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,320
because Peter calls out Cora's
unaccounted 6 years, which is

622
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,440
which is fair.
Yeah, totally fair.

623
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,120
But Peter, Peter did kill their
their sister and and Derek did

624
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,280
kill Peter.
Yeah.

625
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,720
So I mean, I guess if whenever
you're at a family holiday and

626
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,960
you're wondering about your
family dynamics, think of this

627
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,680
pax dynamics and that everyone
has attempted to kill everyone

628
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,520
else.
Yeah.

629
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720
At least once.
At least once.

630
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,560
And they're also wondering where
all the bodies went.

631
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,760
Yeah.
Because suddenly.

632
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,840
Bodies aren't there.
Suddenly, Annis and Derek are

633
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,320
both gone and have left no blood
behind.

634
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,199
Yeah, just none.
Because that's how this show

635
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,239
works.
But we are also wondering where

636
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,560
the bodies have gone.
So here is where again I

637
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,679
physically shouted at my
computer screen.

638
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Yes.
So I think it might be in the

639
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,000
next kind of like Flash episode.
I think it might be in

640
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Visionary, but Fannin or Cannon.
I think it's Peter who talks

641
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,000
about how losing a pack member
isn't just like grieving, it's

642
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,120
like losing a limb.
I think that's Canon.

643
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,920
I feel like it.
I think that's Canon, that

644
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,880
losing a pack member is like
losing a limb, and so I have to

645
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,760
ask.
Why doesn't he feel it?

646
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,480
If Derek was dead, wouldn't you
feel it?

647
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,960
If Derek was dead?
Like did did Derek feel it when

648
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:05,040
Erica died?
Did Boyd like did like you?

649
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,680
I believe that's Canon.
Now if it's fanon, I am, I'm

650
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,000
wrong, but I'm like 96% sure
that that's Canon.

651
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,240
But again, they don't have that
piece of lore because it it

652
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,840
makes it not interesting if they
don't, if they don't register

653
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,320
that like, Oh yeah, the string,
the word Derek is is gone.

654
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,520
There's my arm.
Whoops.

655
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,320
Like then there's no tension.
Is he dead?

656
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,720
Is he alive?
But I spent the entire rest of

657
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:32,280
the episode going like,
wouldn't, wouldn't you feel it?

658
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,880
Wouldn't you feel it if your
Alpha died isn't here?

659
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,280
Alpha wouldn't.
Wouldn't you feel that?

660
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,120
Didn't we like have that
conversation earlier?

661
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,960
I definitely thought they did.
I yeah, that's, that's the

662
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,600
assumption I'm going in there
with.

663
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,000
But yeah, we'll have to.
We'll have to find that out.

664
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,400
Yeah, whoops.
Oops.

665
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,800
They conveniently forgot that
that little sharp pain was like,

666
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,720
oh, that that's Derek the way.
Yeah.

667
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,520
So we we head back, back forward
to the bus and a little

668
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,800
voiceover of Scott saying that
he doesn't know what else to do.

669
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,160
He doesn't know how to get the
pack to listen to him.

670
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,040
And.
And it's coupled with a

671
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,000
voiceover of Deaton responding,
saying, don't stop them, lead

672
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,240
them.
Which, like, OK, but like, how,

673
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,840
buddy?
Give me instruction, details,

674
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,400
examples.
But what Scott does is he hoists

675
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680
his bleeding body up out of the
seat.

676
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:32,240
Again, no one on the bus
notices, grabs Boyd and like,

677
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,800
he's like, kneeling down in the
aisle, grabs Boyd.

678
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,160
And it's like, what is your
plan?

679
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,960
Like, what are you going to do
to Ethan here on this bus in

680
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,800
front of the coach, in front of
25 other students?

681
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,020
I absolutely adore that Scott's
version of leadership is de

682
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:48,920
escalation.
Yeah, I do too, actually.

683
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Like, that's what he's doing
because Derek would come in and

684
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,560
start screaming.
And what Scott does is like he

685
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,400
kneels down so they're on eye
level and he's like, look, I

686
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,440
know you're upset.
You are justifiably pissed off.

687
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,400
I get it.
And also, what are we going to

688
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,320
do right this second?
Is it going to work?

689
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,240
Is it going to give you the
answer that you want?

690
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,280
No.
How do we do it together?

691
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,200
How do we, how do we fix this
together?

692
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,120
Yeah.
Yeah, no.

693
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,280
And Scott is like a complete de
escalator and I love that for

694
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,960
him.
It is that's one of the things

695
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,000
where like his, his moral
compass kind of, it's not even

696
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000
like a it's de escalation isn't
a morality thing.

697
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,680
It's a it's a skill.
But I just loved that's the

698
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,720
skill he brings to the table.
Me too, and I like it because it

699
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,360
does.
It doesn't make him better or

700
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,440
worse than Derek, but it does
set him apart from Derek in a

701
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,800
very clear way.
Yes, yes it does.

702
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Which is kind of the point.
Like, yeah.

703
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Yeah, and it neither one of them
has to be better or worse than

704
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,440
anybody else.
But they are different.

705
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,160
They are fundamentally different
people.

706
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,080
And that's OK.
And, you know, they each have

707
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,880
different skills that are going
to work better in different

708
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,320
scenarios with different people.
And in this moment, what

709
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,160
everyone needed, whether they
knew it or not, was for Boyd to

710
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,760
not, you know, bite Ethan's face
off.

711
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,120
So good job guys.
You did it.

712
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,240
You didn't start a fight in the
middle of a school bus.

713
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Good job.
Stiles has also noticed that

714
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,320
Ethan is checking his phone and
rightly says that he does not

715
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,240
like him sitting with Danny.
I don't think any of the pack

716
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,360
like this little relationship
thing that's happened here.

717
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Danny is too sweet.
Ethan is with Dukalian.

718
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,000
This is not great.
I have a very perceptive eye for

719
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,160
evil, you know that?
Well, he does he.

720
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,760
Does Derek has no eye for evil?
Derek has zero eye for evil.

721
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960
He doesn't.
And Scott's kind of in the

722
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,920
middle.
Scott can sense evil, but he he

723
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,800
purposefully believes the best
in them.

724
00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:00,040
Yes, yes, and styles it's.
Suspicious of every he he does

725
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,240
not trust a single bitch.
A single Gundam person and I,

726
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200
and so in the spectrum, they all
work together, the dynamic.

727
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,840
The triangle.
The triangle of don't trust a

728
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,560
bitch, trust everyone, trust
some people you know it works.

729
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,760
Yeah, correct.
I also.

730
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,120
OK, Speaking of, it's defending
Scott McCall Hour because

731
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,920
sometimes we have to defend.
We have to actively defend Scott

732
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,840
McCall.
One of the things that fandom

733
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,000
misaligns Scott with is like,
Scott trusts everybody.

734
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
No, he does not.
He understands that people are

735
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,680
bad and capable of evil, but he
chooses to see the best in them.

736
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,280
He's not naive in that way.
Yeah, Derek is actually a little

737
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,080
more on the like.
I trust everybody, even though I

738
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,760
know I shouldn't.
Yeah.

739
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,440
Like, Derek brings a lot of
people to bed that he probably

740
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,640
shouldn't.
You know, he trusts Peter to

741
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,800
such an extent that, you know,
even though he's saying like, I

742
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,160
don't trust you, he's in his
house.

743
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,400
He's calling the shots.
Like, Derek's all big and

744
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,080
blustery, but Derek's the one
who, like, trusts everybody even

745
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,400
though he really, really
shouldn't.

746
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Shouldn't.
Scott gives them the benefit of

747
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,680
the doubt even when they don't
deserve it.

748
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,480
But it's not blind, you know
what I mean?

749
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yes, it's
an active choice.

750
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,240
Yeah.
It's an active choice and I got

751
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,720
to respect him for that.
It, it bites him sometimes, but

752
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:27,840
it's a really, again, it's just
that's highlighting how

753
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,280
different they all are from each
other.

754
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,400
And it's a that's a really hard
choice to put to, to choose to

755
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,200
see the best in people all the
time.

756
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,000
It is, and it, you know, if they
were all the same character,

757
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
they'd be really fucking boring.
Correct.

758
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,200
Like EW.
Well, you know who else makes

759
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,360
some really fucking stupid
decisions in this moment?

760
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,320
Everybody.
Well, yes, But in this moment,

761
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,720
Styles decides because, you
know, Ethan is over there, like,

762
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,600
waiting for a text.
And they're like, should we text

763
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Danny about it?
And so Styles is like, yes,

764
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,040
let's text Danny.
And so Styles is blowing up

765
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,320
Danny's phone.
It starts really small, like,

766
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,040
like, hey, what's he up to?
Hey, hey, hey.

767
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,880
And Danny's like, shut up.
And Styles is like, hey, hey,

768
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,720
hey.
And Danny's like, stop it.

769
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,680
And then we just hear from the
bus, like picking, picking,

770
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing,
Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing,

771
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Bing.
It's real bad.

772
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:23,520
It's.
So bad and my notes say it all

773
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,760
texts it all caps God damn it
styles so many texts.

774
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Don't you have to pay for those?
Oh yeah, at this time, he might.

775
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,720
Cause it's like fucking 2013.
Do we have unlimited texting

776
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,960
yet?
I don't think.

777
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,800
Like maybe, but like, I wouldn't
count on it.

778
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:46,640
I'm like, Sir, stop it.
Yeah, I yeah, it's 20.

779
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,520
What did I say, 2013?
Yeah, 20/12/2013 So we might by

780
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,920
this point, but I don't know.
Oops.

781
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Just like picking, picking,
picking.

782
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640
But then, finally, Danny texts
back.

783
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,320
Yep, he does he he want.
So Danny wants to know or sorry,

784
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,920
Styles wants Danny to find out
what Ethan is waiting for.

785
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,400
And you know, obviously Ethan
can tell that like some shit is

786
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,080
up.
What he like looks back at

787
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,280
Styles really quickly, who then
ducks down behind a seat like

788
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,040
you are all fucking werewolves.
You're all fucking.

789
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:26,240
You can all hear each guys guys.
Ethan finally responds to Danny

790
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:30,160
that someone close to him is
dying and that he's waiting to

791
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,760
find out what's going on.
And Scott and Styles are like,

792
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,360
that's got to be Ennis.
Yeah.

793
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:40,480
Which flashes back, we think.
Either back or sideways.

794
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,760
Either back or sideways.
This is the part that's a little

795
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,600
like where in time are we the
alphas and misses morale.

796
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,360
Miss morale.
Show up to deatons with Ennis

797
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,040
looking real fucking rough.
Looking rough for help.

798
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,720
Why is Morel helping the alphas?
Who knows I need.

799
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,360
So much more background
information on Alan and Miss

800
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Morel.
Yeah, I I need like an entire

801
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,240
miniseries.
I need a book on the two of

802
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,480
them.
Who are they?

803
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,720
How did they grow up?
How did they get involved with

804
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,000
this?
What is going on?

805
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,720
Yeah.
Because there is so much unsaid

806
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,680
between like the two, like, you
know, we're like Daryl Peck's.

807
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Derek's a great eyebrow talker.
I'm like not, not compared to

808
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,160
the Morels, not compared to the
deep Morel family.

809
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,320
Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Whatever last name situation

810
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,800
they have going on.
Whatever last name situation

811
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,280
they have, those two have like
they just like glared each other

812
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,520
back and forth across the bank
And there's I'm like, you guys

813
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,960
just had an entire conversation.
Please tell me what's in your

814
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,040
brain.
With like 20 years of history,

815
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,920
yes.
Of Druid talk.

816
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,200
You going to play the Big
Brother card like, oh he's your

817
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,920
brother?
You were surprised.

818
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,840
About.
That yeah, he he's your brother.

819
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:56,520
You're working with the Alpha
Pack.

820
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,760
He's trying to protect Beacon
Hills and I guess used to work

821
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,960
with the Hales.
What is happening I.

822
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,320
Have absolutely no idea.
This is all stuff that we would

823
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,600
have loved to know when season
1.

824
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,240
I know and OK.
Does it seem like Deaton is

825
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:14,040
somehow able to keep Kali from
transforming because she like

826
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,320
gives him the teeth and the
eyes, He stares her down and she

827
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,600
like the teeth and the eyes pull
back?

828
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,360
Or is that just like a standoff?
I think it's just a standoff

829
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,640
that he wins.
Like I think it's just alpha

830
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,440
Druid.
Yeah, I think it's basically

831
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,480
just alpha to alpha because the
thing because like, so in that

832
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,400
parking lot that we get with in
like a little bit, I guess there

833
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,480
are some friends that show up in
that parking lot and they're

834
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,880
like that building is made of
like half mountain ash.

835
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,640
So like, Kylie already knows
that she's not welcome in that

836
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960
building.
No, she's barely able to be in

837
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,240
it.
And like, so the chances of him

838
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:51,480
being able to kill her are
pretty strong.

839
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:56,040
And because of his like
unflappability, she doesn't.

840
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,280
I would guess that she doesn't
think it's worth the risk to

841
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,680
like kill Morel like in front of
him.

842
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,360
It's a nice threat, but when it
comes to actually like, you

843
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,320
know, pushing the button and
doing the thing that it's just

844
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,280
not worth it because these
should kill her like 800 ways

845
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,160
from Sunday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

846
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,520
And I wonder if Morrell has at
some point told the alphas a

847
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,480
little bit about Deaton, or if
she's keeping that closer to the

848
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,160
vest to be like a surprise if
need be.

849
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,560
Maybe who?
Knows what?

850
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,440
Who knows?
So we we head back to the bus

851
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,160
where Styles decides to call
Lydia and Allison for help

852
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,640
because Scott can't get Deaton
on the phone.

853
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,920
And no shock to anyone, Styles
knows that the girls have been

854
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,360
following the bus.
Yeah, and Lydia picks up the

855
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,840
phone and she's being so nice to
Style.

856
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,360
If you had told Season 1 Styles
that this is how Lydia Martin

857
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,240
would pick up the phone, he
would not believe you.

858
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,760
Nope, The fact that she picks up
the phone in the first place.

859
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,360
I am growing so deeply fond of
Season 3 Cydia.

860
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,280
Yeah, like these two are.
So they're they're great.

861
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,000
I love them.
I do.

862
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,600
And they're they're just sassing
back and forth and style and you

863
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,680
know, Lydia's like, Oh my God,
we're just going to the movies

864
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,560
and style's like cut the shit.
You guys are following us.

865
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,400
Put me on speaker.
She's like fuck fuck.

866
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:21,000
Yep, so he styles tells them
that Scott is hurt and he's not

867
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,840
healing and the blood is like
turning black and gross and

868
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,400
Allison's like you need to
convince coach to pull over at

869
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000
that moment.
The gas problem is not a problem

870
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,000
because it did seem like they
were out out of gas, but like

871
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,960
it's fine.
Another issue with the bus has

872
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,040
been that there was like a
backup and they were stuck.

873
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,240
Not really a problem we need to
go back to, but Styles gets into

874
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,160
a confrontation with coach where
he's trying to get him to pull

875
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,960
the bus over and the coach is
just like blowing the whistle in

876
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,920
his face over and over.
But coach but coach but coach.

877
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,040
So to handle the situation,
Styles somehow gets Jared to

878
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:07,920
throw up all over the bus.
So as we come back into the bus

879
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,200
from like, you know, from, from
the Allen Morrell, you know,

880
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,600
alpha stare downs, there's a,
there's a baby confrontation

881
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,880
between coach and, and, and
Jared and I don't know if I'll

882
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:26,000
ever be able to fully erase it
from my brain because, you know,

883
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,880
coach is at this point
threatening Jared to not vomit,

884
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,640
which like doesn't work and
talks about being a sympathetic

885
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,120
vomiter.
So if you, if you vomit, I'm

886
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,240
going to vomit.
And so coach is just like, I

887
00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:41,760
might throw up on you just to
make a point.

888
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,520
And I'm like Bobby.
Yeah, Mr. Finstock, Sir, you

889
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,960
cannot throw up on a child just
to make a point.

890
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,200
No.
It's a great line.

891
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,880
Though his lines a bit like Sue
Sylvester, his lines are

892
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,560
fantastic and also illegal.
Yes, fantastic, illegal, should

893
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,680
not be an educator, should not
be around children, but great

894
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,640
for TV.
So good.

895
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,200
But yeah, Styles and his little
gremlin face decide to help his.

896
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,200
Face is so good.
It's so good.

897
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,680
He just helps you know Jared to
actually vomit, which gets them

898
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:15,880
to pull the bus over.
Hooray.

899
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,720
It works because ain't nobody
going to be in that bus after

900
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,280
that happens.
Including me.

901
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,240
Including poor Jared.
And I bet there were some

902
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:25,040
sympathetic vomiting happening
with us.

903
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,080
Sorry to anyone who has
emetophobia on the spotlight.

904
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,040
Really sorry my dudes.
Rough.

905
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,920
You might have wanted to turn
this off a while back, so the

906
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,880
the foursome take Scott into the
rest up bathroom.

907
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,240
Maybe the dirtiest place for an
open wound.

908
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,720
Correct.
Lydia, you know, they're trying

909
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:46,000
to discuss what, why this wound
isn't closing, What can they do

910
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,600
about it.
Lydia is the one who makes the

911
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,400
leap to that it could be
psychological, A psychosomatic

912
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,120
wound that, you know, his, his
brain is keeping him from, from

913
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,160
healing.
And then it's Styles who makes

914
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,440
the leap that maybe it's because
of Derek.

915
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,400
Why I know always Styles's mouth
that Derrick's name comes out

916
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,640
of.
Why?

917
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,960
I know.
Why is this?

918
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Styles wasn't even there at the
fight.

919
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,560
Styles wasn't even there at the
fight.

920
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,920
Yeah, it's Styles who's like,
Scott isn't letting himself heal

921
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,880
because Derrick died.
Styles is the one who's like,

922
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,880
it's about Derrick.
It's Derrick.

923
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,840
It's Derrick.
Well, I mean, yes, but like,

924
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,920
why?
Why writers?

925
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,880
Why do you put this in the show
if you don't want us to believe?

926
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,040
It's like you're telling me in
this moment, you're you're,

927
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,320
you're and like, we're going to
leave Styles and Derek out of

928
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,840
this for just a minute.
You are telling me that Style

929
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,720
that's that Styles that Scott,
like you may be an alpha, but

930
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:54,000
you're not mine.
McCall and like Derek Hale like

931
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,240
they're having such a connection
that Scott feels so guilty about

932
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:07,720
his death that he's not healing.
Like, like, OK, that's totally

933
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:09,720
cool.
But I just wish that you had

934
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:14,560
given me literally any evidence
on on that part.

935
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,320
I really wish that there was
some supporting documentation.

936
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,680
Anything.
Anything like I so yeah.

937
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,560
So they.
And like, by the end of the

938
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,000
episode, like, you kind of
believe it.

939
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Like, you're like, OK, I'll get
there.

940
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,640
But like in this moment, I'm
sitting here going like, but

941
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,040
they don't really even like each
other.

942
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,320
Right.
Like a little, like enough.

943
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,440
But.
There's like AI.

944
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Don't even know if it's mutual
respect at this point.

945
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Yeah, it's just like, I
honestly, I think it might be

946
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,720
like the brother thing, like I
hate them but nobody else can,

947
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,760
so like.
That's my little brother to

948
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,080
hate.
Yeah, so like maybe maybe it is

949
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,240
there, maybe I'm my goggles are
just not too tight and maybe I'm

950
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:55,480
just not seeing it.
Like it took me it, it really I,

951
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,440
I can see it on paper, but I
just, I I could not follow that

952
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,280
emotional arc.
Yeah, me neither.

953
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,360
If it had been Styles or if it
had been Allison, like if it had

954
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,040
been his mom, like, yeah, OK,
OK.

955
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,480
I I can, I can see that.
But like, I don't know.

956
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,520
I don't know, maybe maybe I'm
not giving Scott enough credit.

957
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,720
Maybe.
I've maybe try to give Scott

958
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,760
credit.
I'm trying so hard to give them

959
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000
all credit here.
But I mean, also, you know,

960
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600
sometimes riders just have to
make a leap to get to the next

961
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,000
plot point.
Maybe.

962
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,800
Maybe that's it.
I just I.

963
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,160
Also feel like sometimes there
are missing scenes.

964
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,000
Yeah, they're my honest to God
be a missing scene in there.

965
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,800
Yeah, yeah.
Release, Release The Scott Cut.

966
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,840
Release, release, release the
Scarek.

967
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:45,160
Release every piece of evidence
that tells me that Scott and

968
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,040
Derek actually are fond of each
other.

969
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Yeah, yeah.
But I'd watch it.

970
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Oh, yeah, me too.
And so basically what Lydia

971
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,280
suggests is that you just kind
of have to trick his body into

972
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,160
healing.
So what are you gonna do?

973
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,920
Stitch him up?
And who just so happens to have,

974
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,240
like, a little surgery sewing
kid in her purse?

975
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,880
Lydia Martin.
Hell yeah she does, which makes

976
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,680
me think she would have like
anti nausea meds in her purse.

977
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,480
Yeah, but she wasn't on the bus.
Well, I know, I'm just saying

978
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,280
that she if anyone has.
She would have.

979
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,800
She's got the EpiPen, she has
the selling kit, she has the

980
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,440
nausea meds, she's got the
tampons, she's got the

981
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,640
ibuprofen.
She's got it all.

982
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,080
She's got.
She's got the chapstick and the

983
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,240
lipstick and the the band aids.
She's got it all.

984
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,640
She's got the mom purse.
Of course she does.

985
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,720
She is ready.
She's got naloxone at the ready.

986
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,040
Incredible.
We love, we love, we love a

987
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,000
prepared lady.
But basically in the in the next

988
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,600
couple of minutes, I'm just
cheering for these two groups of

989
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,880
couples at the top of my lungs.
She's like Styles and Lydia.

990
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,920
Styles and Lydia just playing so
well off of each other and kind

991
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,640
of being at that same kind of
intellectual level for them is

992
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,760
so good.
And then Allison and Scott, but

993
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,320
just with their history and
their vulnerability and like,

994
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,200
you know, Allison doesn't want
anything to do with this, but

995
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,880
it's Scott.
And like I just my little heart.

996
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,040
And then there she is, trying to
thread a fucking needle,

997
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,040
hallucinating her dead mother
yelling at her.

998
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,520
Hi Victoria, I can't really say
that I've missed you.

999
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,680
Nope and my my note here was
like she is just a 17 year old

1000
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,040
girl.
I think my big note is, Allison,

1001
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,040
you're about to put that that
piece of twine through a human

1002
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,800
person.
Stop.

1003
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Licking it.
Licking it.

1004
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,280
God, she licks it.
So many.

1005
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,800
She licks it so often and also
for anybody who is trying to

1006
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,200
thread needles, if you don't
actually own a needle threader,

1007
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,360
which is like super great for
like little little.

1008
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,360
Needle threaders.
But also, if you're working with

1009
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,640
like embroidery thread like I
do, you take your thread one or

1010
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,920
two strands, however many you're
working with, you fold it over

1011
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,680
the eye of the needle thin ways,
and then you like pull it tight

1012
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,760
and then you flip the needle
over so that the eye is big.

1013
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,920
And that's how you thread it.
Easy breezy.

1014
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,840
None of this.
None of this licking, sucking

1015
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,840
loose, hiding your dead mom
nonsense.

1016
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Trying to poke a wobbly thread
through it is is not gonna

1017
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,720
happen.
It's not gonna happen,

1018
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,200
especially.
When your hands are shaking.

1019
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,200
Yeah, so they have this whole
this whole moment of like Vic,

1020
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,760
like in in Allison's moment of
critical need, her mom comes

1021
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,240
back and screams at her like,
Yikes.

1022
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,480
Just why?
Why can't you do it?

1023
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,440
What are you doing?
Like leave her alone.

1024
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,360
We are basically led to believe
as as Allison kind of goes

1025
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,160
through and finishes up Scott's
wound, that Scott is dead, that

1026
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680
Scott has succumbed to his
wounds over the Derek guilt,

1027
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:49,000
which is not not great.
So as Scott is like, you know,

1028
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,160
getting stitched up.
He has a flashback to to the

1029
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,280
blue timeline.
Yep.

1030
00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,520
And we kind of sort of learn
that it's so like in all of the

1031
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,840
blue scenes we've seen so far,
Isaac or not Isaac Scott is

1032
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,520
staring down at Ennis and
Derek's body like several floors

1033
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,680
below.
But somebody pulls him back kind

1034
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,720
of over the over the border.
And what we learned here is that

1035
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,800
it's Isaac who pulls Scott back
from the brink.

1036
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,240
It is.
Yes, because of course it is.

1037
00:55:17,240 --> 00:55:19,680
Because who loves Scott McCall
more than anybody else?

1038
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,680
It's Isaac Leahy.
And now it's now it's Allison

1039
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,360
who's pulling him back from the
brink of this.

1040
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,320
And my little my little heart
just exploded that Scott is

1041
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,800
Scott is so loved by his
boyfriend and his girlfriend.

1042
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,840
He is so loved.
He is.

1043
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,000
So, you know, on the on the
night we get, we go back to the

1044
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,000
blue timeline, but the scene is
orange.

1045
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,800
And we learn on the night of the
like the attack, Scott is just

1046
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,600
going to like go show up alone
trying to interfere with this,

1047
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,120
but it's a free flashback
instead.

1048
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,080
Who do we find sexually leaning
against the doorway in his hail

1049
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,280
packed leather jacket?
It's ice, weighty, and it's.

1050
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,760
Telling him he's not going
alone.

1051
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,080
Scott tries to like, lie to him.
He's like, yeah, I'm hungry, I'm

1052
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,440
just gonna go get food.
And Isaac is not fucking buying

1053
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,680
it.
He's really not.

1054
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,080
And Scott's like, I'm gonna go
get Mexican and Isaac like hard

1055
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,560
pass, hard stop goes, I love
Mexican.

1056
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,160
What a weird like like like.
Yes.

1057
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,720
All right, let's do it.
I bet you do like Mexican.

1058
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,680
Honey, so it's like this whole
thing of like you're not going

1059
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,520
alone.
Come.

1060
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,480
On.
And so it's it's Isaac who is

1061
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,280
with Scott kind of the whole
time, and that Scott isn't alone

1062
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,240
in this moment.
Yeah.

1063
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,400
And.
They get on their motorcycle.

1064
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,240
Broom, broom.
Scott, though, thinks he's gonna

1065
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:40,120
like reason with Dekalion.
And that's.

1066
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,800
That's not happening.
No, absolutely not.

1067
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,160
Truly wild.
He's gonna have like a A1 on

1068
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,200
one.
But of course Derek and Cora

1069
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,360
show up wolfed out and ready to
fight.

1070
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,680
Dekalian has also brought his
friends who are wolfed out and

1071
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,120
ready to fight, so this was
never going to be a reasonable

1072
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,240
discussion.
No.

1073
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,040
So that's that's really not
going to work for anybody.

1074
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,240
It's just just terrible at the
vet's office.

1075
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,920
Oh boy.
Peter and Cora have shown up at

1076
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,680
the clinic.
Dekalian has also shown up to

1077
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,040
check on Ennis, where Deaton is
like, yeah, he's pretty fucked

1078
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,520
up but he's, he's going to live
so you know, it's all good here.

1079
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,480
Duke then like kisses his
buddy's cheeks and then squishes

1080
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,080
his skull to kill him.
I have so many questions.

1081
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Like why did they bring him here
to heal him in the first place?

1082
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Well, I think it was everybody
but Dukalian brought him in

1083
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,800
because that's the rest of the
pack.

1084
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,680
So like.
Yeah, but why didn't you just

1085
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:48,040
kill him at Seriously?
Because it's why not just go?

1086
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,040
You were there.
Yeah, you were fucking there.

1087
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,640
Like I just, I can't.
I don't understand it.

1088
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,400
You were at like, why did you,
why did you waste Deaton's time?

1089
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,080
Yeah, you fucking wasted her
time.

1090
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:09,160
But then, you know, outside we
see Collie who is like howling.

1091
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,680
She's howling and screaming.
She is hollow over Enna's stuff.

1092
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,520
She can feel it.
Yeah, she is not happy.

1093
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,120
She's not happy.
So like that's my thing is like,

1094
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:26,400
could she feel it?
Or because it's like because she

1095
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:31,800
you would think that Aiden and
Collie would be in the room with

1096
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,280
Deaton and Ennis because when
Deukalian comes in, they are

1097
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,680
alone.
Right.

1098
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,600
So like, does Deukalian just
kind of like, calm outside and

1099
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:47,160
tell her like, yeah, he's dead?
Or does she feel it snap?

1100
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,560
Right.
Like, can she feel it?

1101
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,280
Can the others feel it?
So like Dukalian was talking

1102
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,240
about feeling the power.
So I just, I have so many.

1103
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,480
I have so many questions.
Yeah.

1104
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,760
So we go to Blue and Kali is,
you know, sliding down the wall

1105
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,960
like Spider Man.
Yes, they love showing her feet.

1106
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:10,960
That's weird.
Showing her.

1107
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,120
Feet.
It's it's real special.

1108
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,200
It really is.
Derek is the one to strike first

1109
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,080
though.
Yeah, he is big stupid.

1110
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,160
Big, big stupid.
And then Scott doesn't wolf out

1111
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,440
until Isaac goes to fight.
Yeah, and they show his

1112
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,080
transformation very slowly.
Yeah, and it's very different.

1113
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,560
Like they for the first time, we
like get to like watch like the

1114
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,360
hair come out of his jaw like
this.

1115
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,320
Is it's interesting?
It is new IT.

1116
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,560
Yeah.
I wonder if that was to show him

1117
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,640
making an active choice to
become a wolf and that maybe it

1118
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,680
was kind of like pulled against
his will.

1119
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:50,760
I don't know.
It was interesting.

1120
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,160
It was interesting.
But obviously they are getting

1121
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,000
their asses kicked and you know
Dekalian gets Derek once again

1122
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,240
beat to the ground and wants
Derek to kill.

1123
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,640
The betas to save Cora.
Yeah, I think he wants them to

1124
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,440
kill Boyd.
Yeah, I think it's Boyd.

1125
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,680
The editing is a little weird
because they're showing

1126
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,920
everybody while he's talking.
Yeah, because they're showing

1127
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,360
Scott and Isaac and Boyd and
Cora.

1128
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,880
Like which one are you talking
about?

1129
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,280
I think you're right.
I think it's Ennis who has Scott

1130
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,160
and Isaac, or maybe it's the big
alpha, but somebody has the two

1131
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,680
of them, like by the neck and
then Collie has her foot on

1132
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,240
Cora's neck.
Fucking feet.

1133
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,040
Every time feet someone is in
defeat on this show.

1134
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Somebody we're not going to talk
about.

1135
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,480
But thankfully, a shiny Arjun
arrow comes slicing through the

1136
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,480
dark to take that choice away
and then cut to cut back.

1137
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,120
I thought the editing was
actually really interesting

1138
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,600
because this arrow comes slicing
through and does a flash bang

1139
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,840
and then a light bulb turns on
in a room.

1140
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,200
That's nice.
And we've got another flashback

1141
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,640
of Chris and Allison.
Doing your back.

1142
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,440
A back ear back.
We'll call this purple.

1143
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,200
I didn't actually color code
this one, but we'll call it

1144
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,880
purple of doing their own
plotting.

1145
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,240
Allison obviously wants to help
because she's back to wanting to

1146
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,200
help the werewolves instead of
murder them, and Chris just

1147
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,080
wants to get his consulting
business back up and running and

1148
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,880
to stay out of it.
But that that is not what

1149
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,920
happens.
They they do come to the rescue

1150
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,880
and Scott goes to attack Ennis
and once again his eyes flash

1151
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,280
red.
Wow, Thunder is like rumbling in

1152
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,960
the background.
And then the soundtrack.

1153
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,200
Yeah, and who is the only person
to see those eyes change?

1154
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,880
Is it Dekalian?
It's.

1155
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,200
Allison.
It is Allison, Allison.

1156
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,320
Sees it because she kind of like
looks and it her, her face kind

1157
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,120
of goes like what Allison sees.
Scott's eyes change color.

1158
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,760
Hello.
Whoop, whoop.

1159
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,440
Yeah.
And like, so there's some really

1160
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,880
some some iconic moments in
this.

1161
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,040
So Allison is talking with with,
with her, with her dad, with,

1162
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,120
with daddy in his office.
It's like, well, it sounds, it

1163
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,040
sounds a lot like saving your
own ass.

1164
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,800
And with all the family I've
lost, I could use a few friends.

1165
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Yes, it's like Ouch, but also
correct Taint wrong.

1166
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:19,040
And so finally, finally, finally
we get to the moment of the

1167
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:23,040
fight.
That helps to explain the entire

1168
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:29,760
emotional arc of the episode,
which is Scott, with his little

1169
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,520
red eyes kind of fading to gold,
is fighting with Ennis, and

1170
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,480
Derek swoops in to save Scott
from Ennis and like, Scott's got

1171
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,200
his ass kicked.
And so Scott is desperately

1172
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,800
trying to like, swipe at Ennis
and get him away, but he

1173
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,160
doesn't.
He Ennis kind of stumbles and

1174
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,400
takes Derek down with him.
So Scott catches his leg or

1175
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,920
something?
He kind of catches his leg and,

1176
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,880
like, so Scott kind of matches
eyes with Derek as he's falling

1177
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:04,160
off the off the thing.
And Scott feels guilty because

1178
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,120
he feels like he himself killed
Derek.

1179
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,480
Yeah.
Which, like, helps to explain

1180
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,600
it, Like.
OK.

1181
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,600
Yeah.
I mean, never mind that like

1182
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,440
everybody was involved in this
battle.

1183
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,600
Yeah, pretty much.
But yeah, I mean that that's his

1184
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,600
guilt.
Is that he, I don't know, maybe

1185
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:27,000
helped Ennis stumble a little
bit and and Ennis took Derek

1186
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,160
down with him.
Yeah, but he, Scott, is feeling

1187
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,440
like he was the one who sent
Derek over, like physically over

1188
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,360
the edge.
And so that's why his, his guilt

1189
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,280
is is is literally wreaking
havoc with his little body.

1190
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,640
Yeah, but apparently stitching
him up in a dirty bathroom

1191
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,560
without having cleaned the wound
at all does work.

1192
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,560
Yes, because it's very important
to note before we we get back on

1193
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,520
the bus and, and, and, and deal
with the things that are

1194
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,160
happening elsewhere outside of
the bus.

1195
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,560
So Allison and Styles and kind
of Lydia, everyone's trying to

1196
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,400
help Scott out of the bathroom
and they come out of the

1197
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:15,280
bathroom to find Isaac punching
the shit out of Ethan forever.

1198
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,880
And everyone's yelling at him to
stop.

1199
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,880
And everyone's like, Oh my God,
don't do this.

1200
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,520
And who is it that gets Isaac to
stop?

1201
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:27,280
It is the big roaring call of
his alpha, Scott McCall.

1202
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,440
And so like, we're starting to
see this, like, there's little

1203
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,120
trickles in this episode about
like some have more potential

1204
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,320
than others.
And the red eyes that like Scott

1205
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,520
is starting to turn into not
just like an alpha of your own

1206
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,360
pack of humans, but like into an
actual alpha werewolf.

1207
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,680
And so that's a really
interesting kind of character,

1208
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,480
character development that's
happened.

1209
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,520
But, yeah, and it'll also be
interesting to decide, like, do

1210
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,480
you like this kind of alpha?
Like, are we supposed to pit

1211
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,160
Alpha Scott against Alpha Derek?
Yeah.

1212
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Which I think the show wants us
to.

1213
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,120
Right.
Like, we're supposed to decide

1214
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,240
if Scott is actually just a
better alpha than Derek and I.

1215
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,560
They're different, obviously.
We have said that Alpha Derek is

1216
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,960
kind of like an idiot.
Very an idiot.

1217
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,560
He's not a great alpha.
He's not a great alpha, but he's

1218
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,560
not a great alpha right now.
He is not.

1219
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,160
Some of it's his fault and some
of it is not his fault.

1220
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,280
Correct.
Yeah.

1221
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,360
But at the moment, like, Scott's
been pretty well set up.

1222
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,560
He's a he's a good dude.
So, so it turns out that, you

1223
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,520
know, they're getting back on
the bus and Allison and Lydia

1224
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,520
just like don't have the gas in
the car and they're just not

1225
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,400
going to leave Scott.
And so Lydia and they're like,

1226
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,160
fuck it, they just leave the the
car at this like at this truck

1227
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,720
stop rest area, whatever and get
on the bus with the with the

1228
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,200
boys.
I feel it.

1229
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,120
And Coach just doesn't seem to
care at all.

1230
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:57,040
No, does 2 two people who are
not his students just show up

1231
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,600
and he's like, I don't don't.
He does not have time to give a

1232
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,360
shit about this.
No term, no care.

1233
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,000
And I feel that for him.
You know, I don't know who's

1234
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,240
cleaned the bus in these last 15
minutes, but he does not care.

1235
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,320
Nope.
So Styles, you know, with his

1236
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,200
new super smart buddy Lydia is
kind of running through these

1237
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,200
sacrifices with her, which is
nice that he gets to have a

1238
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,120
someone to bounce his ideas off
of.

1239
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,920
And, you know, they're talking
about the, the killer, the bad

1240
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,800
guy being someone who thinks
that they're a dark druid or

1241
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,560
maybe someone who actually is a
dark druid.

1242
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,040
The the the rock.
The Rock.

1243
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,760
Which when you look at the word
on a page, you're like this

1244
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,280
still looks like a word.
Scramble like this still doesn't

1245
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,080
look like a word.
Yeah.

1246
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,480
But it is.
But it is.

1247
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,920
And they're talking about how,
you know, some ancient cultures

1248
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,920
sacrifice people in preparation
for a big battle.

1249
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,280
So we've got alpha werewolves
versus a dark druid.

1250
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,520
That is literally what I wrote
as my last note was Alpha Wares

1251
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,120
versus Dark Druid.
Yeah.

1252
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,680
And so we got this really cute
little scene of Allison and

1253
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,480
Scott in the back of the bus.
And you know, they're just

1254
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,560
staring into each others eyes.
They really are.

1255
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,640
Very cute.
And Scott's like, what else?

1256
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,960
Since I'm just looking at your
eyes and you know, and my whole

1257
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,320
brain is like, it's because she
was the one who saw his eyes go

1258
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,720
red.
She's the one who's staring at

1259
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,000
them and it's amazing.
And that's where the.

1260
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,480
Episode ends?
No, no, that's where the episode

1261
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,200
ends.
Should have ended there.

1262
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,320
That that's the end, that's the
logical ending to the episode,

1263
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,920
that's.
The logical ending to the

1264
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,560
episode and scene.
Unfortunately, the editors had

1265
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,600
other ideas.
They did, which make no sense,

1266
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,480
but.
Absolutely not.

1267
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:51,920
So as we pretend that it's now
the next episode 3-6, it opens

1268
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,600
on Jennifer Blake walking to her
car, dooped, dooped do after

1269
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,440
school time.
Everything's great.

1270
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,320
And she's sitting in her car and
all of a sudden, splat, a bloody

1271
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:08,440
handprint starts, you know,
attaches itself to her, to her

1272
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:14,640
driver side window.
And it is Derek, covered in

1273
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,319
blood and beaten to a pulp, who
proceeds to then fall down in

1274
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:22,319
the parking lot.
And she opens up her car door

1275
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:26,760
and goes to investigate.
Derek, honey, darling, you got

1276
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,120
to stop going to women who you
know nothing about.

1277
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,319
You have known her for like 60
seconds.

1278
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,760
I know, I know.
And like, dude, what do you?

1279
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,479
And like, of all the people, I
mean, I wonder, I wonder if

1280
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,520
first he went to try to find the
rest of the pack and they're all

1281
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,520
in a fucking school bus.
They're all in a school bus and

1282
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,080
like, you know, he'd go to
Deaton, but the alphas are at

1283
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,520
Deaton's and like he goes to the
loft and nobody's there.

1284
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:58,080
Like, you know, I you it makes
sense if you drag it out all the

1285
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,520
way.
But like my immediate gonna

1286
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,720
check reaction is like Sir.
Yeah.

1287
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:03,560
Sir.
Yeah.

1288
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,160
But no, I'm sure there's an
actual reason why he's there and

1289
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,720
it makes sense and yadda yadda
yadda, but still.

1290
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:10,399
Yeah, why?
Why here?

1291
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,319
And again, it's for the plot.
It's so we get to the big plot.

1292
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,439
Yeah, we get to some plot.
So we get to some plot, but like

1293
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:23,160
in just for this episode, like
we've been saying, it makes no

1294
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,520
sense to put this moment here.
Nope.

1295
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,880
Because like, okay, now we know
that he's alive.

1296
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,399
You couldn't have waited a week.
Yeah, you couldn't wear to the

1297
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,760
week.
And and like and this didn't

1298
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,960
even happen during binge
watching, this happened when

1299
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,640
episodes dropped one by one by
one.

1300
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,760
Give people a week to talk about
it to be like oh shit did they

1301
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,399
kill off one of the main fucking
characters?

1302
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:43,120
They just kill off Derek like
for real.

1303
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,359
In a time when there was no way
to, I mean, it's 2013.

1304
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:49,040
People were on Reddit, people
were on Twitter, people were on

1305
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,760
Instagram.
Like give people the chance to

1306
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,000
like talk this shit out and be
like, oh, fuck, is Tyler

1307
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,720
Heckland off the show?
And then next week you're like,

1308
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:02,680
Oh, no, he's there, you know?
Derek, I think try Derek is like

1309
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,800
the Sailor Moon of Teen Wolf.
He dies and gets her the refs.

1310
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,760
OK, so Sailor Moon, I think
during the course of the of the

1311
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,280
manga and then anime series
Sailor Moon, I think she dies

1312
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:19,920
and is resurrected like 7 times,
like 13 some obscene number of

1313
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,280
times where she dies and is
brought back to life, right.

1314
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,440
And so Derek has died, I think
at least two or three times

1315
01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:29,520
already died.
Yep, Yep.

1316
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:32,000
OK, guys.
Sure thing.

1317
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,640
There's at least two more I can
think of, maybe 3 like.

1318
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,000
And that is the supernatural
problem.

1319
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,600
Not supernatural, but
supernatural.

1320
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,120
Right where if a character case
supernatural.

1321
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,960
Lower case supernatural in a
shuttle well and also uppercase

1322
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,840
like well yes, but if they can't
die then don't pretend they're

1323
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:49,920
going to die.
Right.

1324
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,960
Because I don't care anymore,
right?

1325
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,160
I'm not shocked.
I'm not worried.

1326
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,440
I'm just like, OK, they'll be
back.

1327
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,960
Bye.
And goodbye.

1328
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,200
You're going to have to find
another way to emotionally

1329
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,680
impact me.
And it's going to have to be

1330
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,080
with relationships.
It's going to have to be with a

1331
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,400
heel turn.
It can't be with their supposed

1332
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,280
death because I'm not worried
about it.

1333
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,360
Yeah, well, we all know how that
ends for Derek Hale, and it

1334
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,120
takes some he's.
Fine it.

1335
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,640
Takes a precisely capital S
supernatural turn this.

1336
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:23,160
Show is so fucking stupid.
It's the fucking worst.

1337
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,920
So we'll be back next week with
episode, with episode 3 six,

1338
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,440
because we can't get enough of
this stupid shit.

1339
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,360
California.
Oh God, it's next week with

1340
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:38,160
California.
Yeah, it is.

1341
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:43,680
OK friends, content warnings in
advance.

1342
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,000
You have a calendar week to get
prepared.

1343
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,080
Yep.
We're gonna talk about suicide,

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we're gonna talk about drowning,
We're gonna talk about self

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harm, We're gonna talk about
corpses.

1346
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,600
We're gonna talk about missing
and murdered women.

1347
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,000
We're gonna talk about.
You can imagine it.

1348
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,040
It's in this episode.
Oh my God, Oh my God, fire.

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01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:09,960
Oh my God.
Oh, bad, bad.

1350
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,600
This episode is great.
It's incredible.

1351
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,640
But like alert alert alert.
Big alert.

1352
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,400
And also you should listen to
the song Hotel California to

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,320
just get a vibe.
Yes, yeah.

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,320
But yeah, content warning all
around for next week, just for

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general.
Yeah, if you honest to goodness,

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01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,520
if you want to know, like, what
to watch out for, just go read

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01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,040
the Wikipedia summary of this
episode.

1358
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,800
Like just read it because seeing
it is going to feel different.

1359
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,560
Yeah, but if you.
On that note.

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01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,880
On that note, thank you for
listening to this episode.

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01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,640
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Internet, you probably know how

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01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,680
to do that by now.
Unless this this is the first

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01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,560
time you've listened to this
episode.

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01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,680
In that case, welcome.
What an odd episode to find us

1365
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,560
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01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,480
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01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:00,000
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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:06,240
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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:11,720
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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,400
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