Oct. 14, 2018
We Did It, Kids!
We finally did it! We're finally at the end of season one of Glee! That's right, we're talking S1E22, "Journey to Regionals." All of the New Directions' hard work has paid off as they dance and sing their hearts out and...come in third! #thirdornothing At least they tried, right? Quinn gives birth and Finn and Rachel are officially a thing. We think. When we come back we'll be starting Season 2, and you know what that means... Also, more importantly, the US Midterm Elections are coming on November 9th. Vote or Die, y'all. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/glee-on-the-rocks-podcast/support
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Hello, and welcome back to Glee
on the Rocks.
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I am MAV.
I'm probably Emily.
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Guess I meant to be and we are
we might be talking about
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Journey episode 22 and the
season finale of Glee season.
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One did I
We did it guys.
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We did it.
Well, heart attack there.
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It's fun, huh?
Nothing is more exciting than
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having small children scream
down into the ears of your
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podcast kills.
All right?
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Yeah.
We finally made it this the
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season finale of season 1 of a
TV show called Glee.
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How long have I been doing this?
Guy's a too long?
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It took us way too long.
I'm doing this forever.
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This is all we have in our
lives.
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This is our life.
Now is who we are.
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Now listen, if we could be
consistent about anything we
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wouldn't be in therapy.
There's that my God.
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It's so episode 22.
I'm going to give a little quick
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background on it real quick.
First of all it premiered, on
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June 8th which is the best day
ever.
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Here's a little little best unit
instead over.
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It's my birthday, is it?
Yeah oh to Nathan's Maps
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birthday.
Just FYI little fun Factor so
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Journey or journey to Regionals
was watched by ten point, nine
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million American viewers, it
attained the highest finale
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rating for a new show in the
2009, 2010 television season.
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Also the most-watched scripted
show of that.
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We In the 18-49 demographic.
For those of you who are
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interested in the nerdy,
analytical stuff like that, I
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know I am.
So a little background on the
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episode, the moment, the new
directions have been waiting for
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has finally arrived.
It is time for regionals when
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Sue pulls a fast one on Will.
And the Glee clubbers becoming
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one of the judges, their chances
at the title, could be
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compromised.
Meanwhile Quinn's Life, Changes
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forever in Finn and Rachel.
Begin to rebuild their
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relationship.
This episode was written and
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directed by Brad falchuk do.
Yeah.
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What surprised that Brad got the
finale and not Murphy me too?
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To be quite honest.
I just assumed well do do we
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have any any special thoughts
or, you know, things I want to
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say as we kick off.
Talking about the finale, I do.
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I have one important thing to
say, and I think that Ryan
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Murphy has a problem with curly
hair because he's bald.
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And I say this, because I was
struck again, by the level to,
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which Sue mocks Schuster for his
hair.
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And then I remembered what
happens to upcoming characters
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hair, and I think Murphy is just
racist or jealous against curly
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hair because he doesn't have any
I can believe that conspiracy
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theory.
I just want to like, put that
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up.
I think, I think that's true
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because I love to play,
allegedly alleged shit.
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Anyway, that was the first thing
I wanted to get off my chest
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today.
I sympathize, I understand,
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thank you, thank you, for
sharing and bring Wellness us.
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It felt all my also add not
necessarily related to curly
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hair though.
Also, as important as that, At
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that, there was a lot of a lot
of reviewers thought that this
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episode was fairly mediocre and
uneven.
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As I'm not an uneven
representative of the Season as
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a whole, which I agree with the
gun season of the whole being
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uneven, as well as this episode,
I found that to be quite
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interesting that usually you
want to come.
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You want to end on a bang and
they did in a way, but also they
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really didn't in other ways so
good.
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Yeah, this For me kind of
boring, honestly, I love Journey
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as a band, so the medley Journey
was amazing for me and just
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because I like to hear it.
And like if you've never driven
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through the flat ass middle of
this country, listening to
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Faithfully, you haven't lived a
real life.
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But the rest of the episode is
just kind of like, yeah, I feel
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like the entire show tried to be
like unique and original.
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And I think try not that they
succeed.
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Seated throughout most of the
Season by having like plot
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twists and you know, plot lines
that move really quickly and
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sharply.
And definitely was like,
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completely predictable
resolutions of everything they'd
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set up.
Nothing happened in it really
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expect that, but I guess maybe
this time it might have been
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surprising that they didn't win,
but it was realistic that they
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didn't win, right?
Yeah.
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So that wasn't actually a
surprise.
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It was one, right?
This is a surprise to me that
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they actually adhered to Like
no, we're not going to have on
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when you know like the Hollywood
ending, they did not adhere to
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that.
So yeah you're right.
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It is realistic that they didn't
because you know, stuff happened
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but I think that I knew it was a
TV show made me not surprised by
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it because if they hit the Peak
at the end of season 1, season 2
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wouldn't have had nearly as much
hype.
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I mean in like the process of
getting it at Nationals again.
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True.
But it's not, it's not like it's
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not a thing that they've done
before.
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It's like we're gonna have,
we're going to have Rachel Berry
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you know play Fanny Brice now.
Well.
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Yeah.
But at the time, like when
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season one was all, you'd
actually seen.
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You didn't know that that was
going to be like a pattern for
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them.
It's yeah, it's definitely one
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of those words.
Hard to remove the memory of
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having seen this plus everything
else that happens after it.
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No do.
Nope.
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Just totally forgot what I was
going to ask.
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So was it going on?
Were you going to ask if you
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also notice that one guy who
plays that?
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From Dalton in the background at
McKinley.
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No, it wasn't but it was Dalton
they're spying.
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Well, so that's the thing.
Is that the actor and I for the
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love of God cannot remember the
Dalton character's name but he's
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like the white chubby-cheeked
guy.
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Brent maybe maybe.
But he's just a background, it
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just walks by in the background
of when thin and Rachel or
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standing on the stairs talking
in like, and he's not an adult
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in uniform.
He's in just like jeans and a
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sweatshirt or whatever, but
it's, it was startling.
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So it's like, oh fuck.
Yeah, that guy's there Trent is
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spying before.
So, just because they wanted all
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of the, well, I'm going with one
of the one of the Warblers had
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heard about acute singer at the
Glee Club and needed to get a
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look on before school year in
it.
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I cannot With it.
But let's also talk about how
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regionals are at in June and
never again is end the season
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technical no, because when gives
birth, but how, when did she
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die?
The school year is nine months
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but it wasn't.
When does Nationals occur if
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their yearly do they occur in?
Like I don't understand.
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It's always like you you have to
have regionals be in June for
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Quinn to be able to have a baby
because she can't have her baby
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and like four months, right?
Yeah, so it's like, okay, there
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has to be nine months here,
which is why the fuck are we
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having regionals in June?
What the fuck?
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I don't why?
And then they never go to Over
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again.
Now they do they don't go to
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section.
No way.
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Which one don't they go to
again?
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I don't think they go to
sectionals.
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Again, don't go to sectionals.
Yeah, that's because I ran out
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of money for songs.
I don't know.
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They just, I think they think
they stopped, they go, you know,
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we're trying for Nationals now,
we don't need to worry about X
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section that gets you.
Fuck the rest of Ohio, we're
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moving on.
Moving on, we're going.
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And people in the region might
say they're moving on up to the
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east side. - New York Oilers.
Sorry, my bad, my bad.
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So there's a lot of stuff here
that happens as we, you know,
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basically thread some threads
together.
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Me like oh let's put this
together.
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I was put those together and
then there's a lot that were
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just like we're gonna ignore
that.
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That was a friend that we speak.
We started like, okay, but the
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adults in the room who are I
would question there's a lot of
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Happens.
But the whole like Emma and Will
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and Sue and and not necessarily
all of their storylines going
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together, but that's kind of how
I lumped them in my notes, just
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being like the adults and what
was going on in their side
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partly.
Because I think after this
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season, we do see obviously
stuff that happens with them,
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but I don't think we have the
same Focus moving forward.
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So it was almost like you know
at from from When we started to
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when we're at now, I think we
slowly diminished what we're
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showing of the adults.
But for the moment, let's dive
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on into them.
First of all, I guess I'm uh I
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would just like to take this
moment to say Carl is lovely
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today with Carl.
She got herself.
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Carl is good for you.
We haven't seen him yet but I
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don't care.
He's not the full coach.
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I don't think we need See him to
understand that, he's a better
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alternative than shoe.
Yes mr.
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Shue.
And he's not Ken, and therefore,
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I'm happy for her.
I'm like, yes, go with this.
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He's a dentist.
I'm sure they make a nice money.
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I'm sure you can have like, a
nice little life and it's great.
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Yes, he's probably pretty good
at sterilizing things.
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I mean, I mean, I bet he has
like an unending supply of
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rubber gloves.
But I mean there's just there's
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so many things that work well
for her and you need to you need
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to just keep no matter what
happens.
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You need to go with that.
I'm sure that's exactly what
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she'll do, your nothing, could
go wrong in there.
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Nope, yeah, on the other side of
that.
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So we'll is problematic in many
ways.
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This, this episode, I'm going to
start with an easy one, and this
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is one that I don't know if it's
problematic.
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Or if it's just my, my I hate
Will Schuester goggles but he
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hasn't.
He has all the kids over to his
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house.
You never hung out with your
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teacher and their private home.
I can't say that I have Anybody
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else here?
Just kind of casually going out
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with any other High School
teachers in a private home.
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Yeah, I I can't say that I ever
did.
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I did have a teacher who weirdly
like to invite all of the
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cheerleaders over but she was a
like 20-something woman herself.
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So I feel like it might have
been almost through level of, I
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want you to be my peers, not my
skin.
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Yeah, she just wants to have a
positive example.
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It left me feeling kind of
creeped out.
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I mean, though, even though
there are no overtones there,
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but it was just sort of like,
um, what are you doing?
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Like, no there.
And it's more for me is the line
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of you're an adult and you're a
teacher and it's not that's
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that's Yeah, boundaries
boundaries Will Schuester.
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Doesn't have boundaries clearly
not and we also have see Sue's
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soft side, which is what I what
I put down as as Sue actually
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starting to feel bad and tell
And to feel bad for the Glee
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Club.
So, soccer team has insisted
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come.
See the softer side of soup?
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I'm really glad you also knew
that.
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It's like, I'm sure there are
people listening, who have no
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idea what just happened, but not
cleaning to do.
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Let's just leave it at that.
Yeah.
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Now I got you, I got.
You look to is not a monster,
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she It's hard work and
dedication and you know she she
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likes some of those kids not in
like a Will Schuester likes.
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The kids kind of way but like a
she appreciates that they try
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hard.
I don't know.
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She appreciates the kids for
being kids.
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Yeah.
Right I do feel the the line
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like a world without Glee Club
is not a world.
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I can imagine or something like
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Oh, that felt heavy handed.
Yes, it was that.
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Was that was the writers and
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through a character.
Rather than letting the
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character talk, you know, they
have a real problem with back so
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that I guess the thing that we
are just glossing over here is
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the labor birth scene.
Cut between vocal adrenaline's
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number.
I mean, I appreciate the song
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Choice matching.
The storyline Choice there.
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Yes, they went for Actually on
the nose and no subtlety about
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it.
They went right for it.
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Yeah, it did.
That's a literal.
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As you can get short of a song
that is actually about the labor
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process.
Yep.
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And like, I can't hate it
because yeah, it wasn't.
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It works.
It was fine.
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It's the level of absurd that is
you just have to appreciate?
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Yeah, yeah.
They put it.
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They went for this shit and all
right.
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Be like the drama.
The from crumbly I enjoy.
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Yeah.
Because otherwise you just would
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have had this like schmaltzy
schmoopy labor saying that we've
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all seen before.
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Like we can all see each and
every one of us could script A
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labor scene and it would look
exactly the same.
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But this at least took a
process.
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That happens a billion times a
year and made it interesting.
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It says it does make me me go
Cole all all women must time
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there.
Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack.
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The song goes on for a while.
That should totally help.
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I'm sure that will be.
That was funny though.
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Because what they're saying is
that she went into labor and
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gave birth in six minutes.
Yeah, she didn't.
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I guess considering the
unrealistic span of her
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pregnancy itself, it should just
be accepted.
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That her body does very strange
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Yeah, made us trophy.
That's really, maybe that's
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really the thing that we've all
been missing.
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I'm this entire time.
Is that Quinn?
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That's her mutant ability.
Is that she's able to be
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pregnant in like just ate a baby
and like three or four months
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and then go into labor in six
months or third-rate.
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I mean, it's not very good
mutant ability.
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But, you know, for third-rate,
mutant Powers rapid labor, she's
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able to create an army really
fast, which okay is got to say
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some women, do go into labor and
drop a baby in a very few
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minutes and that definitely
happened but It's not it's not
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the normal.
I would say it's not normally
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how it goes.
If, you know, a bit of time in
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between and your I wonder if
this is another casualty of this
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is written by men and gay men
who were clearly are not as
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familiar with how like this
whole thing goes, which, to be
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fair.
I feel like I would have as much
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understanding of writing a birth
seen as a gay man, having never
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given birth.
But yeah, I mean, I would, at
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least talk to him.
Man screams a lot.
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Doctors were over her.
Yeah.
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About as far as my awareness is,
there's just a lot of pain,
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there's some drugs, there's
factors there's a spanking
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involved somewhere on the baby
and just in case, you know, you
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know.
Yeah.
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I mean, they're not going to
throw in the other terrifying
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details of what happens when you
give birth.
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And that's, that's really fun.
The fox show.
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The rest of it.
The more you more details, you
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find about the process of Where
you go?
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Wow, that that is never
happening.
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Also, how the fuck did anybody
decide to do that again?
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The fact that there are this
many people on the planet, when
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you have to do that to get a
person, just this today's
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podcast brought to you by our
are the tip of our hat to every
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woman who's had a chest, thank
you.
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Because oh my God, because no,
no, thank you.
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I mean also they're expensive,
they're expensive, they're
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really messy, it looks painful.
But you know what?
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Thank you, ladies.
Good for you and I'm glad that
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glad that others enjoy or
willing to go through it.
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I enjoy is probably not the
right word, I don't know any
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that would enjoy it, but go
through it for what?
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You enjoy it later, perhaps.
Which is still like we might get
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a dog.
Yeah, the dog will know no pain.
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So expensive, mix a lot of
messes still yells at me and
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doesn't always appreciate me.
I mean, I feel like it's a child
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but I just I can put it.
I can put her in a box and Child
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Services doesn't yell at me for
it.
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That's true.
See this is how little happened
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in this episode that we're just
like talking about childbirth.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
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I mean I mean we have glossed
over the fact that Finn and
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Rachel are now a related now in
a row A ship together by the
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standing together.
Yes, I did.
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Ignore that out there.
We know that had gravity and
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deserve.
Sorry, we do need to dedicate
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minutes to Finn and Rachel
because God knows the show.
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Does I like that?
That was the, that was the
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relationship that they felt that
they needed to.
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Before going into season two, I
think it's interesting because
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if you know, you're going into a
new season, wouldn't you want to
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leave more Cliffhangers?
Yeah.
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Like wouldn't you want to leave?
Like maybe that they're like,
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okay yeah, let's you know,
they're just like something
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that's there that shows off
spark is there but not like You
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know what I mean?
It's definitely sounds like
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planning with that.
I do.
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I just and I I'm pretty sure
they know that they got renewed
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for season 2 before they wrote
this ending.
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So I was about to ask if they
thought there was a chance that
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it would only be one season but
no excuse.
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If they knew they had a second
season.
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I thought they I thought they
got my new for the second season
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after they got their back half
of the first season.
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They did.
They got a pretty early.
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I'm just I thought Flags he did.
Like they did 13 episodes and
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then Fox ordered the next or
they get 11 and then walks order
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the next eleven and season two.
Yeah it looks like it happened
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back in January so they had
plenty of time so they did this
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on purpose.
So this was all this is all what
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they wanted to do or reasons.
Consciousness think this is this
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episode marks the final time
that original 12, new directions
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appeared together partly because
Matt decided that I should go
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solo, I'm clearly way better
here.
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Yeah.
Also the the it was Trent that
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was walking back behind you and
Rachel, I was Googling.
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Trent is a goddamn spy and and
I'm here for it.
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I Love Babyface trends.
To go back to the mat thing.
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I really think the end of season
two should have been Matt
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Rutherford winning Nationals by
himself like that shove in the
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plot, twist for season 2, just
like guys, I guess who didn't
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need you bitches and then him
holding the trophy up and like
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what our wedding when like
Rachel went to Rachel and Kurt
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went to New York and trying to
get into nyada and like Matt's
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already there, and like, has
graduated early and is also
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exactly the Should I we should
have just been that doing
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whatever the main characters
were striving to do.
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And we like yeah.
So I had like who is cards boss
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at the Fashion Place in New
York.
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Oh it's Matt, it's about
actually that's unlike that's on
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The Advisory board for nyada and
he's just like, you're not
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getting in, it's why Rachel
didn't get in the first exact?
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Exactly.
That was like, I know these
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people.
This is how interesting this
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finale is.
We just skipped ahead like four
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seasons.
Yeah, because I just really want
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it.
Yeah, I really want in.
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Then the rest of like Seasons
two through six, like
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background, there's a billboard
for like not Rutherford's, new
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album but it's his name is Matt
sort of like Drake of us just
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like or they're like they're
watching you'd like he's on TV
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on SNL like in the in that in
their apartment and they just is
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playing in the background.
I just Little background pieces,
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of Matt like being amazing.
I think we need to get someone
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to edit him into all of the
episodes.
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Somehow.
Dear dear, anybody listening to
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this podcast with a passable
Talent at Final Cut?
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We have a request to actually
have been a really great Easter
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egg if that had happened, but
have been things that would have
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been fucking amazing if you had
done them, but no part 9 part
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behind Yeah, Fair.
So I trance is the one that
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walks down and I think I said
Matt says his second out of
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three lines of the series in
this episode.
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So yeah.
How did that actor?
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How does that even happen?
Like, was he just bad at his
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job?
Because he was there the entire
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fucking time?
Like how did he just never get a
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line here?
I want this.
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I want to think and I could be
wrong.
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Like maybe maybe he wasn't good
at acting or singing or dancing,
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like maybe he would.
I assume he has to be somewhat.
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Good.
Considering like he was
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originally cast.
So like you had to have been
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good enough to originally be
cast, but like, I don't see
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anything happen.
Well, but but there's also has a
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thing, like, Kurt's the gay one
Quinn's the cheerleader Artis.
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You know, he has a disability,
Rachel is the crazy, you know,
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overachiever, Finn's the
football player, Everybody had a
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thing and maybe the problem was
that they couldn't wrap their
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head around.
What Matt thing was because
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that's how they literally hang
characterization.
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Yeah.
He's not by you know who, you
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know, actually making a
full-fledged character but just
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You know.
Hear what?
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I'm gonna give her.
That I'm going to give Matt a
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thing right now.
He was also on the mathlete
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team.
He's like a great mathematician
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and his struggle is trying to
decide between studying for the
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next mathlete, championships or
participating on the Glee Club
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and he has to decide, which one
is more important for his future
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college applications clearly, he
decided mathletes And he chose
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the mathletes.
Yes.
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Now he's now he's hanging around
with something like top
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mathematicians.
I would have said a name there
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but I don't know the names of
top mathematicians.
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I'm sorry.
And now he's on The Big Bang
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Theory.
Are you also on IMDb right now?
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I am not.
No.
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Oh okay.
I see what you're saying.
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Sorry.
I'm on because I was like I was
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feeding my Tamagotchi
Interestingly, the guy who
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played Matt Rutherford, his name
is De John Tarleton and he has
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on his IMDb page from 2009 to
2015 Glee, that's because
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doesn't he know, show up again.
I think he shows up in 2009 and
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dreams come true or at least it
says that he's got ya credit,
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look, he's on the right and like
the finale finale.
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Yeah.
Yeah, so I think because he
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turns up for the finale he gets
it, okay, that I don't know,
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I've been bad, he was put in
American Crime, Story in the
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2016 version.
Now, he played Sheriff's, deputy
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number one, so I don't know what
that says, but like I assume if
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you pissed off Murphy, he would
not let you anywhere near one of
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his sets.
I don't know, I don't know, I
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can almost see the opposite
happening.
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Where if you pissed off Murphy,
he's just going to keep giving
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you shitty rolls.
You can't rise above.
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He wants.
To keep you on the hook a little
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bit a little bit.
Yeah, I'm not going to, I'm not
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going to say who this also makes
me think of, but I'm just gonna
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sit here and drink, my little
sooner.
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Once your part of the Murphy
team, you never get to leave.
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This is who you are.
Now, this is what you're doing.
448
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You're doing what Ryan Murphy
wants you to do.
449
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,600
Ryan Murphy wants you to play a
sheriff's.
450
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,000
Deputy number one and then
you'll play sheriff's.
451
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,300
Deputy number one and you'll
like it fucking like it.
452
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,900
So yeah.
So Matt Rutherford It's kind of
453
00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:41,800
second line in this episode.
You did?
454
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,900
I noticed it?
We're going to pour one out for
455
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:50,100
Matt Rutherford.
Sorry buddy, he's going on to be
456
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,200
a famous mathematician that also
sings and dances and is on the
457
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,900
board at nyada and is all these
other things got very busy life,
458
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,200
it has.
But, you know, he's Matt
459
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,700
Rutherford, a he's really smart,
he's able to create a Time
460
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,700
Turner, so, you know, no
worries.
461
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,300
Good for you, Matt.
Good for you, man.
462
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,100
So yeah, this is this isn't as
interesting as this, this
463
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:18,800
episode really is.
Oh what note the Shelby best
464
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,600
situation, right?
Like I know we're in a were in a
465
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:25,700
TV show?
Yes.
466
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:27,800
Thank you.
That's what we're doing but like
467
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,700
that was just a little too
goddamn convenient.
468
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
But wasn't it?
Like really really you just had
469
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,000
a baby and you just want to have
a baby right now and it's just
470
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,100
that's just bad.
Super easy.
471
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:43,300
I'll I've got a baby you want a
baby guess what?
472
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,700
We're doing and deep down
somewhere.
473
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:54,500
Terry just got really angry.
Oh really actually sad very
474
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,100
Schuster's out there like but
that was my fake baby?
475
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,500
I just now realized that
apparently the date that the
476
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:10,600
episode aired is apparently in
Ugly Cannon according to the
477
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Glee Wicket, Wikia, which shout
out again, to the Glee Wikia.
478
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600
That always always is where we
go too.
479
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Far information deaths.
Birthday is on the day, the
480
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,300
season finale premiered, which
means that Beth Corcoran and I
481
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,600
share a birthday.
Well, that is very exciting.
482
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,600
This is very exciting because
our these are things that
483
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,800
happened and stuff.
Stuff and things to go to sheets
484
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,600
and things to stuff and things.
It's the wider version of sheets
485
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,800
and things stuff, and things has
other stuff.
486
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,900
And folks, I have a very random
question that maybe you guys
487
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:56,500
were paying enough attention to
that you can solve at the end of
488
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,700
regionals.
There are three teams standing
489
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,200
on stage, correct, there is
right.
490
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Three teams on stage.
There's vocal adrenaline.
491
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Aural intensity and the new
directions, right?
492
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:17,400
Yeah.
So they said, okay, so trying to
493
00:30:17,408 --> 00:30:20,400
like make this make sense in my
brain before I say it out loud
494
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,200
and then I can't argue
accessible at it.
495
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,300
I know already says a lot
already says this line.
496
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:31,300
It says we didn't even place but
there are three teams how do you
497
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:34,900
there's first second third, how
did they at least got third?
498
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,500
Well, I think The thing if they
announce second place and then
499
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,400
first place.
So I think the idea is you we
500
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,600
didn't even Place.
Meaning, they didn't even give
501
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,600
us like a place.
You like, default does that does
502
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,100
that mean regionals like is only
three teams competing and seems
503
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,000
not right right.
That's what I'm saying.
504
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,700
Is like, if they're standing on
stage, then to me that says the
505
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:02,200
top three teams are the people
on stage and if aural intensity
506
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,200
got second and vocal adrenaline
got first by default new She's
507
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,100
got third unless they're just
standing on stage and the actual
508
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,300
third place winners are like
somewhere else.
509
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,800
You directions favorites like
us.
510
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:22,300
But then it's like why are there
only three teams competing in
511
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:25,700
regionals?
So either there's only three
512
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:30,100
teams competing in regionals
which seems unlikely or new
513
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,700
directions went on stage.
Even though there are more than
514
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:35,700
three teams and the other team
didn't show up.
515
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:39,200
Right before they got third
place and you just know that you
516
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,900
didn't Place.
Yeah, or do.
517
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,500
They only because they gave them
a trophy?
518
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:46,800
It's not even that they didn't
get a trophy.
519
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,700
So like you can't say, you
didn't place.
520
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,500
If you got third, even the
allergic.
521
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:53,900
Skoda third place.
Is the secret that new
522
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,700
directions can't count well,
because Matt is there one math
523
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,500
Lee's?
It has been dancing too much.
524
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,700
Goddamn it, this explains so
much.
525
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200
He leaves.
They do, they can't count
526
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,300
anymore.
They have to try to convince
527
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,800
Brittany that she's smart.
You can count and that to go get
528
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,000
that.
But I try to bring it on blame
529
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,200
to try to be like cool.
He's from Dalton I bet he can he
530
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,500
can count.
I bet they have math on the
531
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,700
curriculum.
This explains so much and like
532
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,500
maybe someone watching under
maybe it made more sense to
533
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:27,800
other people.
But I was watching it.
534
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,300
Like what do you mean?
You didn't place there only
535
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,400
three teams being a little
dramatic.
536
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Aren't you?
Guess Jesus anyway, This this
537
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,800
episode, of course was fun.
It was ridiculous.
538
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,600
It was in like fun.
I mean, we watched it.
539
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,300
Everything I expected to happen
happens.
540
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Except I was surprised that they
didn't have them win because I
541
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
did.
I expected TV Hollywood endings.
542
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,700
But yeah, good for that.
What were your, what are your,
543
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:03,000
guys thoughts on the whole for
season 4, season one go right
544
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
now?
Well, I do, are we leaving this?
545
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,300
Episode behind now.
Yeah, okay.
546
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,900
Well first I do want to bring up
the the behind-the-scenes thing
547
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,300
that like in like my you like
cursory Google for this episode
548
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,600
was mentioned and quite a few
articles as like a selling point
549
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,200
and it's that when will and Emma
kissed?
550
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,800
They didn't tell Gemma that that
was going to happen.
551
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,300
That like her reaction was to
being kissed without her like
552
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:35,400
knowledge that was coming and
how like kind of fucked up that
553
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,400
is it's a sack with like a
publicity point for them now,
554
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,800
it's completely fucked up and
definitely not something they
555
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,100
would do to Morrison.
It would not, they would not
556
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:53,900
bring down a kiss on a man.
I read the reasoning from from
557
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,900
Murphy's because he wanted an
Response, which is the most
558
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,400
bullshit reasoning.
Like, you, you're hiring fucking
559
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
actors.
Think they can do their job or
560
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,300
you don't.
They're activists that you let
561
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,800
the actors act off of a script.
Yeah, exactly.
562
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,199
And then it and if your, if your
reasoning for I wanted an
563
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,300
authentic kiss.
Then every other fucking kiss in
564
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,100
the show, better, be unscripted?
Yeah!
565
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:23,000
Work that is dumb are but we'll
get there.
566
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,300
Hold on.
Sorry, I'm taking That to I'm
567
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,500
taking that to lightly, but ya
know is it's bullshit.
568
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:31,900
It's only only ever happens to
women, right?
569
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:35,500
Yeah, I mean, you would at this
is taking it to such an extreme
570
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,800
but, you know, it's like we
wanted an authentic fear
571
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,400
response, so we threw them into
a vat of spiders.
572
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,400
Like, it's not your actors and
just can't just kiss somebody
573
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,699
without their consent.
And I have for a TV show.
574
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,600
I also like that you noted that
it's like that was the selling
575
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,900
point, but it's like that was
Man, that's supposed to be good.
576
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,800
Like that would make me go.
Oh no, no, I don't want to watch
577
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,300
that.
Yeah, I know.
578
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,200
There's like, there's an E
online promotional article that
579
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,100
came out.
June 9th 2010.
580
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,700
It's like five Glee finale
secrets.
581
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,700
And the number one secret is
that will an amicus wasn't
582
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:15,100
scripted.
Like you didn't accidentally
583
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,200
catch the two actors kissing in
the corner and record it.
584
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,500
Like know what you did was force
a woman to be kissed by a man
585
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,400
that she didn't consent to, or
wasn't made aware of as part of
586
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,100
her job.
Job.
587
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:30,200
And like just that there's
there's you know there's got to
588
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,200
be articles and stuff where
Gemma you know people and they
589
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,500
asked her about it and she's got
to talk about it positively.
590
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,900
Yeah.
Because she can't say well that
591
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,300
you really was a dick move to
do.
592
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,300
That was not, I did not like
that because that's not how you
593
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,800
keep working.
That doesn't make for a
594
00:35:48,808 --> 00:35:51,000
comfortable work environment for
anybody.
595
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,000
Nope, just more.
More evidence that.
596
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,400
I mean, I won't blame this one
on.
597
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,300
Go on shoo, I'll just blame this
early at Ryan.
598
00:35:58,300 --> 00:35:59,600
Murphy's feet.
Yes.
599
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,600
But Matthew Morrison wasn't
like, I'm not going to do that.
600
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,700
That's creepy a pair, totally
good.
601
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,800
I'm curious how many, how many
male actors would say?
602
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,000
No, I'm not going to do.
I'm not going to kiss my female
603
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,100
costar without them aware of it.
It.
604
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,500
I mean, today probably a few six
years ago not as many.
605
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:27,300
I'm also I also wonder if like
there definitely are.
606
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,300
I think actors who when they in
the Navy I guess the difference
607
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:32,900
here is they weren't playing a
couple.
608
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,700
They were playing people that
were potentially going to be
609
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,500
here in a couple your half of a
couple acting.
610
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,400
I do think there's like, hey,
you know, what?
611
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Are you, what are you familiar?
What are you comfortable with me
612
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
doing?
To you, and you will like, just
613
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,900
on.
Like, that's not scripted.
614
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:52,700
Let's talk that out.
And I think that's the thing
615
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,900
that could exist where it's
like, hey, you can touch me here
616
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:00,500
and I'm cool without it being in
the script, I don't need a
617
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:02,700
warning for that.
Maybe you get out of this.
618
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,800
It's also question of like, just
because they have kissed on
619
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,500
screen as actors before doesn't.
It's not like a standing, okay?
620
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:16,100
Like just because they filmed
these two actors kissing before,
621
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,800
doesn't mean You just get to
like lay one on anytime you want
622
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400
for the good of the show.
Yeah, I mean it's like the
623
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,200
analogy just because I loaned
you five dollars doesn't mean
624
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,200
you can take five dollars out of
my purse next week, like no, you
625
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
need to ask every time or like I
do.
626
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,900
I didn't all five dollar
transactions, like any time you
627
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:43,300
want Murphy, which does kind of
give the already kind of
628
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,600
lackluster finale, kind of a
nun, additional Pale.
629
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:53,800
But moving to the rest of the
lackluster or maybe luster
630
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,900
season.
I don't know.
631
00:37:54,900 --> 00:38:00,000
What do you guys think?
Yeah, so like I know a lot of
632
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,900
people really, really love
season 1 and I don't, but that's
633
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:11,400
in comparison to season 2.
So it's kind of hard to talk
634
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,800
about season one without it
being a comparison.
635
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Like, we talked about this
before, where it's hard to City.
636
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,200
We can't watch these episodes in
a vacuum, even though it's been
637
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,300
six years since we've seen them.
Yeah, we still have like we have
638
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:26,200
like the memory in the emotional
memory of what happens later,
639
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:33,000
but I think that this season
would have been a lot better if
640
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,700
it had been written to only 13
episodes or maybe even 20
641
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:40,800
episodes.
Well notice that's only two down
642
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,800
maybe like yeah let's say 13
episodes like if they had
643
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,600
condensed It, which is why
miniseries and limited series
644
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,200
works so well, is you the
streamlining of the writing?
645
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,600
You get rid of all like the
wheat and the chaff, like, you
646
00:38:55,607 --> 00:38:58,400
just get rid of the extraneous
bullshit, that takes away from
647
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,600
the more interesting stuff.
And I think if Glee had only
648
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,200
been written to be 13 episodes
per season, I think there's a
649
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,400
lot of the stuff that we all end
up hating that would have been
650
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,100
taken out just by the nature of
the streamlined writing.
651
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,700
I really want to believe that
but part of the opposite
652
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,900
shoulder is like, but would Ryan
Murphy have value stuff.
653
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:28,800
Like enough to keep, or would it
have been 13 episodes of no
654
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,400
characters besides thin?
Rachel shoe and Emma?
655
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,300
Yes, that is.
I mean logically.
656
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,200
Yes, I do generally agree,
though.
657
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
I do think that the 13-episode
Brian would have made a better
658
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,500
show.
I sort of feel that way about
659
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,500
most shows.
So yeah, I agree with you but
660
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,600
like I think he liked the most
television shows should be
661
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,300
between 13 and 15 episodes
because.
662
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,900
Yeah, because otherwise you do
It's like that in the week.
663
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,900
Yeah, you get in the weeds, you
spin off in the nonsense and I
664
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:05,100
but you're right that what we
would have probably forgotten is
665
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,500
just the stuff we didn't
necessarily want.
666
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,400
Like, then Mercedes wouldn't
have had a single storyline and
667
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Quinn and Santana.
Like everyone else would have
668
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,100
just been left in the dust even
more.
669
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,400
And that's not, that's not
better.
670
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:26,700
No, I was pulling out.
Reviews for the season, he'll
671
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:30,000
always curious to see what
reviewer said at the time
672
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,500
really.
It's a lot easier to find that
673
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:36,600
than it is to find like fan.
Thought at the time, that that
674
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,700
is a little bit more difficult.
But as always, would love to
675
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,000
hear what you guys thought of
the Season, as a whole when you
676
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,800
watched it, especially if you,
if, you know, where your
677
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,500
thoughts were, letting you live
blog, that that'd be great, but
678
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:56,100
on the whole Whole like it had a
78 Metacritic score and an 88
679
00:40:56,100 --> 00:41:00,600
percent on Rotten Tomatoes
that's based on reviews, not on
680
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,500
the, I'm not audience reviews.
So I mean on the on the whole
681
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,700
it's all very positive.
I do like this One reviewer from
682
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,300
The New York Times that called
the show blissfully unaware
683
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:15,800
gional fucking name in a witty
imaginative way.
684
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,500
And I was like way too.
Like totally try to like hide
685
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:22,100
that Zinger.
Holy shit, that's that was
686
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:27,600
great.
There was another piece the okay
687
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,300
variety the guy from variety was
critical of the early episodes
688
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:34,900
because he said hi the acting in
the characterization were way
689
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,800
off and that the show squandered
a bunch of talent and was uneven
690
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:46,000
intone and I'm like, yeah, yeah
that's literally, that's
691
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
literally how I feel.
He did also add the TV would be
692
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:56,700
poorer without the show but I
agree that all of the all of the
693
00:41:56,707 --> 00:41:59,900
things he highlighted I'm like I
know those are problems also
694
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:05,300
like this person that had that
was declared anti-christian by
695
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:09,500
youth Minister and comment all
10 commandments are violated
696
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:11,500
during the season who's
murdered?
697
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,900
Okay, so someone's neighbors,
coveted, I got that.
698
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:22,800
Adultery.
I honestly I don't know all the
699
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,300
10 Commandments but one of them
is murder and who who who was
700
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:31,900
murdered is it your shit quality
of writing in the television
701
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,300
landscape?
Yes.
702
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,800
But now is her secret murder
that we don't remember.
703
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:46,600
Also there's one is like you can
have no Gods before me.
704
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:53,400
So what other gods are there?
Sue worshipping her trophies.
705
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,800
Okay.
Yeah.
706
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:56,500
Are you googling Ten
Commandments?
707
00:42:56,500 --> 00:43:02,400
Because I did, I'm not trying to
remember my childhood stealing.
708
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,300
Okay, murdering stealing a dull
touring more.
709
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,700
Something about your honor, your
mom and dad on our you're gone,
710
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:12,700
keep holy the Sabbath day, but
we don't actually know what they
711
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:14,200
do on Sundays.
So we don't know that.
712
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,700
That's not true.
Oh, did you Google or you know,
713
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:19,800
I Googled, I don't know this
shit.
714
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,700
That's all it is.
All the ones I remember.
715
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:30,500
So, yeah, I'm just, I'm just
really concerned about this
716
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:35,200
killing that is, the prize.
There was a murder in season one
717
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,600
and we so we got it.
We didn't send hits, maybe
718
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:44,900
doesn't Finn hit.
That guy with his car when he's
719
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,400
thinking about.
We know that he died.
720
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,800
We do.
Should we just leave now?
721
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,600
He died.
I guess we have to assume.
722
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:57,800
Oh shit.
Wait, do we do we know that Matt
723
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,300
Rutherford wasn't supposed to
have a more untimely end?
724
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
What if Matt Rutherford was
really like a vision sort of
725
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,800
like Harvey to, we know he
wasn't actually with he was
726
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,600
alive or not, we don't know
anything anymore.
727
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:17,700
This is very confusing for me.
We have now turned our podcast
728
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:23,600
into my favorite River.
I wish we are trying to figure
729
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,700
out which murder happened in
season 1 of Glee who drew you
730
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:34,000
have any tips or the invite
please let us know hilarious.
731
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,500
Yeah.
So I think we would all agree
732
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:42,800
this season was kind of I would
agree with you that season 2 or
733
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:47,600
it's probably my favorite and
I'm torn between two and three
734
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,900
but this this one isn't my
favorite like what I like about
735
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:55,900
the show, isn't there yet?
And I don't mean Blaine play.
736
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,700
Do you mean clean?
Not entirely but that I'm a
737
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,200
little bit.
It's a little bit but then it's
738
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,300
also my favorite care.
Like I love Kurt and we only get
739
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:09,800
him a little bit and we get some
of the worst version of Kurt and
740
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,200
season was so like when I say
clang kind of I mean because
741
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,300
he's Of that.
But like I enjoy his character
742
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:24,500
and I don't get to see it.
It's very it's only every so
743
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,800
often and as you said it can be
it can be a little snarky.
744
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,300
Yeah.
It's a bit of the shit.
745
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,000
I mean I I'm gonna stick with
snarky but okay.
746
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:40,300
Yeah so it's a smile that you
are like Kurt stand number one
747
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:44,300
because we had that is my role
on this podcast.
748
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:47,500
To defend Kurt at all costs to
defend credit.
749
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,600
Most costs.
The diversity is good.
750
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,700
Yeah, I do not go, there are
times, he is really snarky and
751
00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:01,600
does deserve to be taken down a
peg but I mean son when
752
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Sebastian comes along I'm sorry.
You're only allowed to be,
753
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,200
you're only allowed to stand one
character at a time.
754
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,100
Oh, that's Sebastian.
So you say this is going to be
755
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:14,700
difficult to be like I'm sorry.
You can't have both.
756
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,900
Sebastian, those are the girls.
Okay, but okay, now, we can't
757
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,800
get into this because we haven't
even met these characters yet in
758
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,500
the timeline of this podcast.
And you are just trying to give
759
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:30,300
yourself more time, fine.
Oh, well then, I guess that kind
760
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:34,600
of rolls easily into so season 2
that's coming up.
761
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,300
It is, what are we looking
forward to looking forward to
762
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:44,400
more Rachel aren't we all know?
I mean, I'm looking forward to
763
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,300
the thing.
That I'm looking forward to
764
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:51,100
because completely a mystery.
Well, yeah, we are really
765
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,500
excited.
We get to have Blaine, which I
766
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:58,600
know is, I mean, considering he
ends up going from a walk-on
767
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,600
role to Leading half of the Glee
Club and staying until the end
768
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,900
of season 6.
It's a pretty decently sized,
769
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,500
you know, decently sized role or
excited to get to see.
770
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,800
Now, the other main one of the
other main characters show up
771
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,000
And, you know, it's the version
of him that I liked the most
772
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,400
tooth because frankly, later
versions of Blaine, I don't care
773
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400
for.
So it's like it speak.
774
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:31,700
Plain for me, is season two
because they're, we can't talk
775
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:33,400
about the sex.
We haven't watch these episodes
776
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,300
but it's, you know, and for the
work and you don't even get to
777
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,900
start talking about it.
As soon as we hit season two,
778
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:59,900
you know, the weight like a boy.
I love dolphins in.
779
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:02,800
They should have kept Kurt
there.
780
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,300
I still can't understand
reasons.
781
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:06,800
But anyway, so I'm looking for
all going.
782
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,900
All that are both looking for
the ending.
783
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,400
We're going to have a giving me
the Nostalgia for wanting to
784
00:48:13,408 --> 00:48:16,200
dive back into all of The Dalton
are effect.
785
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,800
Yeah.
If I just have plain Fick you
786
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,400
can send me or recommend to me
or anything.
787
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,700
I need it.
Thank you.
788
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000
I think we're going to have more
to talk about when it comes to
789
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,400
the fandom, right?
Because by season 2, there's
790
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,500
some history.
That's true.
791
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:43,400
And I think it'll be easier to
go back in blogs and find stupid
792
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,800
posts and that like there's some
I have hate the word iconic but
793
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,600
there's some tumblr post that
still go around from season to
794
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:52,300
talk.
I mean while you eat.
795
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:57,300
Yes yes exactly.
And that's impressive for a show
796
00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,800
that was objectively not
amazing.
797
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,500
And you know so I'm kind of
excited to get into some of
798
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,500
those and we can figure out if
we're going to have special.
799
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:11,000
It's where we talk about bands
mm on its own because I you
800
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,300
know, we talked about doing a
shipping episode.
801
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,800
I definitely think things that
taught them.
802
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,600
That is not of your cat.
It is actually a no zarqa a
803
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,200
raspberry lime sparkling water
can.
804
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:27,900
Wow.
All right, I'm a little extra.
805
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,600
I said someone's fancy.
Oh, these are the anthem for the
806
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400
cheap.
Local versions that are of
807
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,800
Lacroix.
Okay.
808
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,000
Got it.
Yeah, so yeah, but you know
809
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,500
there's I think there will be
the fandom stuff is either going
810
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:49,600
to be aggravating or fun or both
at the same time because, you
811
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:55,500
know, it really would like to do
once we once we kind of get, I
812
00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:00,700
think, once we once claim comes
on, I would like to do a
813
00:50:00,707 --> 00:50:05,800
shipping conversation.
Not just because let me talk
814
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:13,000
about clean as much as possible
guys, but The pollution of and
815
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,000
and I'm saying this just using
let's say like the king cream as
816
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,400
like your source of and the
Ugly, huh?
817
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,800
Oh the Kink Mimi.
I know I know either.
818
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400
Would you throw back here?
But just like using that as like
819
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:34,000
your Source material, but seeing
how Kurtz characterization as
820
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,900
how fans saw him and how like
people were pairing him with
821
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:41,700
like these people and these,
Physical and then blinken's.
822
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,300
And and then you see how that
characterization of that
823
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:48,400
relationship goes and changes.
And it's just it's very
824
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,600
interesting.
I think, just from, you know,
825
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:57,200
occurred fan, we go like cool,
we went from like thin and Puck
826
00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:59,900
and then I think Sam and then
Blaine.
827
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,000
So just kind of like the
evolution of who of who Kurt
828
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,200
should be with and I read.
And that's an interesting, an
829
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,600
interesting conversation have
And then being able to bring in
830
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,700
other people, I guess as well.
Whenever I'm on other ships.
831
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,300
Fine, bridging.
So these are all things I'm.
832
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:19,800
I also some of my favorite songs
during season two.
833
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,900
I think they start to hit their
stride with some of their
834
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,800
craziness without it being a
know.
835
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:28,800
I like sensitive.
So I'm excited.
836
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:30,100
Yeah.
No, I'm excited.
837
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,800
Mandy, what about yourself?
You not have to be excited.
838
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,900
If you don't want to be, I am
proud to be excited.
839
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:40,700
God damn it.
I feel like the I don't quite
840
00:51:40,700 --> 00:51:44,800
have the same like I don't want
to thank don't like Dalton like
841
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,200
as get the fuck exactly.
I can't.
842
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,800
I don't like don't leave.
I won't all opinions.
843
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,300
Wow.
So this podcast is in really
844
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:55,700
fun.
It's so bad that we have to end
845
00:51:55,700 --> 00:52:00,500
it now but hey I don't think I
quite have the same attachment
846
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:07,700
to Dalton that.
That said I'm excited for
847
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,300
excited as the wrong word.
We also get a Sam Evans is a
848
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:16,100
character and there's so much
salt potential there that I'm
849
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:21,200
excited.
I feel like that I'm doing with
850
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,400
Sam versus what they did and
half plane came in instead of
851
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,800
that.
Like all of that gets very
852
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:31,900
fascinating to talk about and
then doctor yes.
853
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,200
And also experience because I
feel like you two are going to
854
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,200
bring it as well.
Yes, yes.
855
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,500
So I think I'm excited for all
of the various discussions in
856
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:46,400
season 2, which kind of goes
back to the fact that there's a
857
00:52:46,408 --> 00:52:48,700
bit of history.
Now, there's like, establish
858
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:51,200
Dynamics and they try to bring
new people.
859
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:53,400
That's it works and sometimes it
doesn't.
860
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,900
Yes, it's gonna be good.
It's is season to also, when we
861
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:02,300
get sugar or is she season 3?
I like she's 13.
862
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:06,100
Yeah, I couldn't remember.
But okay.
863
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:09,000
So I'll have to wait longer to
be able to talk about being
864
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,500
excited for her.
We also do get more like more
865
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:16,900
Santana, which I love her
singing, so I hear for getting
866
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,700
your more of her.
So yeah, there's there's a lot
867
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:24,400
that we get to, we get to enjoy,
we do.
868
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,700
Let's see any, any other
obviously, if we keep going
869
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:32,700
we're just gonna end up talking
about the next episode.
870
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:33,900
So we should probably get
started.
871
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:37,100
Okay.
Well then here's a question.
872
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:39,500
What was your favorite episode?
From season one.
873
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:45,600
I feel like this is a pop quiz.
I didn't study 40 the name.
874
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,900
I can't remember any episodes
now.
875
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,900
Going to run through them.
No, no.
876
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,400
I'm gonna say the curtain Burt
stuff, but it's hard for me to
877
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,500
like, pick out one specific
episodes of that.
878
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,100
Feel like I won't, you take all
the curtain Burt things and pull
879
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,700
them out and make them an
episode fair enough.
880
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,600
Gonna say the pilot and the
pilot was pretty good.
881
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:18,500
Yeah, let's say the pilots.
Okay.
882
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:23,200
And not because I can't remember
the other episodes of course
883
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,500
not.
Nope.
884
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,500
So what?
I chose chose that for a goddamn
885
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:32,600
reason.
Okay.
886
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,200
Well here is maybe an easier.
What was your favorite song?
887
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,500
That's not easier.
That's definitely not easier.
888
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,300
What's your song, if you
remember?
889
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:46,200
You say, what the song you can
remember?
890
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,200
And literally the only thing in
my head is Don't Stop.
891
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:55,400
Believin was iconic.
The music version of Emily's,
892
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:03,700
answer of pilot the salt.
I mean, my okay - roses turn you
893
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:11,700
say that.
Yeah, mines resistor have an
894
00:55:11,707 --> 00:55:14,700
answer for myself, Teenage
Dream.
895
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,200
The precursor I can think of my
like, favorite songs from Glee
896
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,700
but none of them happened to be
in the first season except maybe
897
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:23,700
roses turn, but I'm just
concentrating.
898
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,100
Being openly safer.
If I say that I was like, I was
899
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,700
in a student's, a copy away.
All right, I'm gonna go, I'm
900
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:32,900
gonna go I'm gonna steal her
answer then roses turn.
901
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,000
How about you meth you know?
I said like I didn't have I
902
00:55:36,008 --> 00:55:39,400
didn't really have one so like I
don't like I asked this question
903
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,100
fully aware.
I did not, it was a viable
904
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:46,400
answer it.
I see, I see how it is.
905
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:52,300
I have now, I ask the question,
what I'm an answer to say?
906
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:57,100
I want all of the Kurt.
You know Kurt pieces and into an
907
00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:59,400
episode of place just everything
of him.
908
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,500
I that's my favorite episode.
This is anything with Kurtz.
909
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:09,000
I'll allow it.
And I did there's something to
910
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,400
be said for, they are their
Journey song at the end.
911
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,100
Don't sobbing ended there.
Don't Stop Believing.
912
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:22,200
So I think, because that song
became so intrinsically tied and
913
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,700
iconic that it just any time I
hear it, especially the way they
914
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:33,100
sing it with the acapella.
Yeah, and it gives me goosebumps
915
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:35,600
and in a way that I'm, like, I
get kind of angry that I get
916
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,100
goosebumps.
God damn it.
917
00:56:38,107 --> 00:56:40,300
This sucks.
This fucking show is not allowed
918
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:45,100
to affect me like this.
I have said it aloud and then it
919
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:48,000
still happens anyway.
So that'll be my, that'll be my
920
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,100
answer.
All right, all right, well I
921
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,600
don't have, I don't have any
other questions other than do we
922
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,300
do we want to rate the season on
a Kevin scale, or do we want to
923
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,400
just say a bead, like as a
whole?
924
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,500
The season was like, like one,
Kevin, what's Brianna Cavanaugh?
925
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,500
You know, all together.
Yeah, like all together one.
926
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:11,700
Kevin.
I mean, if we wanted to be, you
927
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:14,100
know, scientific about it.
We could probably add them up
928
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,300
and divide but that takes math.
And Matt Rutherford is not here
929
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:19,600
to do it for us and we don't
have that rather ver cozy.
930
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:22,800
Bitch went out and they became
his best self, so we got
931
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,300
nothing.
All right.
932
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:28,600
Well, then in that case, then I
think we've given a pretty
933
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,400
thorough rundown of everything
that everything that we that we
934
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,800
liked that we didn't like that,
we Are excited for and probably
935
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,800
more of that than we needed to
clearly.
936
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,500
We could we could talk about
that for days.
937
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:48,200
Oh yeah.
We will we will endeavor to keep
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00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,200
our podcasts at length.
This is next next season and not
939
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:59,200
to two hours.
The one podcast her Blaine scene
940
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,600
right, it's to podcasts for
episode.
941
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The first one is everything
else.
942
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Another one?
Is the blank.
943
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,500
Guess I honestly don't see a
problem with this.
944
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I mean, technically neither do.
I All right.
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Hello, and welcome back to Glee
on the Rocks.
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I am MAV.
I'm probably Emily.
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Guess I meant to be and we are
we might be talking about
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Journey episode 22 and the
season finale of Glee season.
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One did I
We did it guys.
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We did it.
Well, heart attack there.
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It's fun, huh?
Nothing is more exciting than
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having small children scream
down into the ears of your
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podcast kills.
All right?
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Yeah.
We finally made it this the
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season finale of season 1 of a
TV show called Glee.
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How long have I been doing this?
Guy's a too long?
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It took us way too long.
I'm doing this forever.
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This is all we have in our
lives.
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This is our life.
Now is who we are.
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Now listen, if we could be
consistent about anything we
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wouldn't be in therapy.
There's that my God.
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It's so episode 22.
I'm going to give a little quick
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background on it real quick.
First of all it premiered, on
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June 8th which is the best day
ever.
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Here's a little little best unit
instead over.
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It's my birthday, is it?
Yeah oh to Nathan's Maps
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birthday.
Just FYI little fun Factor so
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Journey or journey to Regionals
was watched by ten point, nine
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million American viewers, it
attained the highest finale
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rating for a new show in the
2009, 2010 television season.
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Also the most-watched scripted
show of that.
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We In the 18-49 demographic.
For those of you who are
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interested in the nerdy,
analytical stuff like that, I
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know I am.
So a little background on the
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episode, the moment, the new
directions have been waiting for
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has finally arrived.
It is time for regionals when
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Sue pulls a fast one on Will.
And the Glee clubbers becoming
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one of the judges, their chances
at the title, could be
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compromised.
Meanwhile Quinn's Life, Changes
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forever in Finn and Rachel.
Begin to rebuild their
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relationship.
This episode was written and
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directed by Brad falchuk do.
Yeah.
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What surprised that Brad got the
finale and not Murphy me too?
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To be quite honest.
I just assumed well do do we
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have any any special thoughts
or, you know, things I want to
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say as we kick off.
Talking about the finale, I do.
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I have one important thing to
say, and I think that Ryan
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Murphy has a problem with curly
hair because he's bald.
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And I say this, because I was
struck again, by the level to,
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which Sue mocks Schuster for his
hair.
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And then I remembered what
happens to upcoming characters
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hair, and I think Murphy is just
racist or jealous against curly
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hair because he doesn't have any
I can believe that conspiracy
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theory.
I just want to like, put that
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up.
I think, I think that's true
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because I love to play,
allegedly alleged shit.
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Anyway, that was the first thing
I wanted to get off my chest
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today.
I sympathize, I understand,
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thank you, thank you, for
sharing and bring Wellness us.
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It felt all my also add not
necessarily related to curly
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hair though.
Also, as important as that, At
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that, there was a lot of a lot
of reviewers thought that this
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episode was fairly mediocre and
uneven.
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As I'm not an uneven
representative of the Season as
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a whole, which I agree with the
gun season of the whole being
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uneven, as well as this episode,
I found that to be quite
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interesting that usually you
want to come.
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You want to end on a bang and
they did in a way, but also they
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really didn't in other ways so
good.
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Yeah, this For me kind of
boring, honestly, I love Journey
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as a band, so the medley Journey
was amazing for me and just
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because I like to hear it.
And like if you've never driven
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through the flat ass middle of
this country, listening to
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Faithfully, you haven't lived a
real life.
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But the rest of the episode is
just kind of like, yeah, I feel
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like the entire show tried to be
like unique and original.
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And I think try not that they
succeed.
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Seated throughout most of the
Season by having like plot
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twists and you know, plot lines
that move really quickly and
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sharply.
And definitely was like,
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completely predictable
resolutions of everything they'd
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set up.
Nothing happened in it really
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expect that, but I guess maybe
this time it might have been
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surprising that they didn't win,
but it was realistic that they
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didn't win, right?
Yeah.
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So that wasn't actually a
surprise.
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It was one, right?
This is a surprise to me that
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they actually adhered to Like
no, we're not going to have on
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when you know like the Hollywood
ending, they did not adhere to
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that.
So yeah you're right.
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It is realistic that they didn't
because you know, stuff happened
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but I think that I knew it was a
TV show made me not surprised by
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it because if they hit the Peak
at the end of season 1, season 2
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wouldn't have had nearly as much
hype.
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I mean in like the process of
getting it at Nationals again.
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True.
But it's not, it's not like it's
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not a thing that they've done
before.
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It's like we're gonna have,
we're going to have Rachel Berry
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you know play Fanny Brice now.
Well.
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Yeah.
But at the time, like when
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season one was all, you'd
actually seen.
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You didn't know that that was
going to be like a pattern for
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them.
It's yeah, it's definitely one
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of those words.
Hard to remove the memory of
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having seen this plus everything
else that happens after it.
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No do.
Nope.
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Just totally forgot what I was
going to ask.
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So was it going on?
Were you going to ask if you
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also notice that one guy who
plays that?
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From Dalton in the background at
McKinley.
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No, it wasn't but it was Dalton
they're spying.
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Well, so that's the thing.
Is that the actor and I for the
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love of God cannot remember the
Dalton character's name but he's
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like the white chubby-cheeked
guy.
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Brent maybe maybe.
But he's just a background, it
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just walks by in the background
of when thin and Rachel or
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standing on the stairs talking
in like, and he's not an adult
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in uniform.
He's in just like jeans and a
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sweatshirt or whatever, but
it's, it was startling.
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So it's like, oh fuck.
Yeah, that guy's there Trent is
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spying before.
So, just because they wanted all
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of the, well, I'm going with one
of the one of the Warblers had
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heard about acute singer at the
Glee Club and needed to get a
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look on before school year in
it.
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I cannot With it.
But let's also talk about how
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regionals are at in June and
never again is end the season
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technical no, because when gives
birth, but how, when did she
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die?
The school year is nine months
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but it wasn't.
When does Nationals occur if
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their yearly do they occur in?
Like I don't understand.
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It's always like you you have to
have regionals be in June for
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Quinn to be able to have a baby
because she can't have her baby
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and like four months, right?
Yeah, so it's like, okay, there
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has to be nine months here,
which is why the fuck are we
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having regionals in June?
What the fuck?
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I don't why?
And then they never go to Over
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again.
Now they do they don't go to
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section.
No way.
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Which one don't they go to
again?
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I don't think they go to
sectionals.
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Again, don't go to sectionals.
Yeah, that's because I ran out
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of money for songs.
I don't know.
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They just, I think they think
they stopped, they go, you know,
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we're trying for Nationals now,
we don't need to worry about X
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section that gets you.
Fuck the rest of Ohio, we're
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moving on.
Moving on, we're going.
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And people in the region might
say they're moving on up to the
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east side. - New York Oilers.
Sorry, my bad, my bad.
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So there's a lot of stuff here
that happens as we, you know,
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basically thread some threads
together.
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Me like oh let's put this
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I was put those together and
then there's a lot that were
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just like we're gonna ignore
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That was a friend that we speak.
We started like, okay, but the
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adults in the room who are I
would question there's a lot of
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Happens.
But the whole like Emma and Will
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and Sue and and not necessarily
all of their storylines going
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together, but that's kind of how
I lumped them in my notes, just
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being like the adults and what
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partly.
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season, we do see obviously
stuff that happens with them,
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but I don't think we have the
same Focus moving forward.
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So it was almost like you know
at from from When we started to
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when we're at now, I think we
slowly diminished what we're
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showing of the adults.
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on into them.
First of all, I guess I'm uh I
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would just like to take this
moment to say Carl is lovely
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today with Carl.
She got herself.
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Carl is good for you.
We haven't seen him yet but I
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don't care.
He's not the full coach.
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I don't think we need See him to
understand that, he's a better
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alternative than shoe.
Yes mr.
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Shue.
And he's not Ken, and therefore,
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I'm happy for her.
I'm like, yes, go with this.
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He's a dentist.
I'm sure they make a nice money.
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I'm sure you can have like, a
nice little life and it's great.
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Yes, he's probably pretty good
at sterilizing things.
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I mean, I mean, I bet he has
like an unending supply of
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rubber gloves.
But I mean there's just there's
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so many things that work well
for her and you need to you need
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to just keep no matter what
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You need to go with that.
I'm sure that's exactly what
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she'll do, your nothing, could
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Nope, yeah, on the other side of
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So we'll is problematic in many
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This, this episode, I'm going to
start with an easy one, and this
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is one that I don't know if it's
problematic.
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Or if it's just my, my I hate
Will Schuester goggles but he
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hasn't.
He has all the kids over to his
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house.
You never hung out with your
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teacher and their private home.
I can't say that I have Anybody
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else here?
Just kind of casually going out
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with any other High School
teachers in a private home.
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I did have a teacher who weirdly
like to invite all of the
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cheerleaders over but she was a
like 20-something woman herself.
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So I feel like it might have
been almost through level of, I
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want you to be my peers, not my
skin.
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Yeah, she just wants to have a
positive example.
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It left me feeling kind of
creeped out.
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I mean, though, even though
there are no overtones there,
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but it was just sort of like,
um, what are you doing?
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Like, no there.
And it's more for me is the line
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of you're an adult and you're a
teacher and it's not that's
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that's Yeah, boundaries
boundaries Will Schuester.
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Doesn't have boundaries clearly
not and we also have see Sue's
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soft side, which is what I what
I put down as as Sue actually
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starting to feel bad and tell
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Club.
So, soccer team has insisted
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come.
See the softer side of soup?
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I'm really glad you also knew
that.
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It's like, I'm sure there are
people listening, who have no
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idea what just happened, but not
cleaning to do.
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Let's just leave it at that.
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Now I got you, I got.
You look to is not a monster,
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she It's hard work and
dedication and you know she she
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likes some of those kids not in
like a Will Schuester likes.
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The kids kind of way but like a
she appreciates that they try
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hard.
I don't know.
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She appreciates the kids for
being kids.
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Right I do feel the the line
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like a world without Glee Club
is not a world.
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I can imagine or something like
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Oh, that felt heavy handed.
Yes, it was that.
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Was that was the writers and
creators of the show, talking
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through a character.
Rather than letting the
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character talk, you know, they
have a real problem with back so
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that I guess the thing that we
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the labor birth scene.
Cut between vocal adrenaline's
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number.
I mean, I appreciate the song
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Choice matching.
The storyline Choice there.
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Yes, they went for Actually on
the nose and no subtlety about
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it.
They went right for it.
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Yeah, it did.
That's a literal.
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As you can get short of a song
that is actually about the labor
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process.
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And like, I can't hate it
because yeah, it wasn't.
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It works.
It was fine.
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It's the level of absurd that is
you just have to appreciate?
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Yeah, yeah.
They put it.
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They went for this shit and all
right.
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Be like the drama.
The from crumbly I enjoy.
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Yeah.
Because otherwise you just would
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have had this like schmaltzy
schmoopy labor saying that we've
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all seen before.
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Like we can all see each and
every one of us could script A
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labor scene and it would look
exactly the same.
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But this at least took a
process.
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That happens a billion times a
year and made it interesting.
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It says it does make me me go
Cole all all women must time
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there.
Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack.
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The song goes on for a while.
That should totally help.
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I'm sure that will be.
That was funny though.
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Because what they're saying is
that she went into labor and
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gave birth in six minutes.
Yeah, she didn't.
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I guess considering the
unrealistic span of her
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pregnancy itself, it should just
be accepted.
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That her body does very strange
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Yeah, made us trophy.
That's really, maybe that's
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really the thing that we've all
been missing.
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I'm this entire time.
Is that Quinn?
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That's her mutant ability.
Is that she's able to be
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pregnant in like just ate a baby
and like three or four months
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and then go into labor in six
months or third-rate.
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I mean, it's not very good
mutant ability.
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But, you know, for third-rate,
mutant Powers rapid labor, she's
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able to create an army really
fast, which okay is got to say
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some women, do go into labor and
drop a baby in a very few
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minutes and that definitely
happened but It's not it's not
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the normal.
I would say it's not normally
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how it goes.
If, you know, a bit of time in
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between and your I wonder if
this is another casualty of this
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is written by men and gay men
who were clearly are not as
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familiar with how like this
whole thing goes, which, to be
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fair.
I feel like I would have as much
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understanding of writing a birth
seen as a gay man, having never
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given birth.
But yeah, I mean, I would, at
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least talk to him.
Man screams a lot.
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Doctors were over her.
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About as far as my awareness is,
there's just a lot of pain,
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there's some drugs, there's
factors there's a spanking
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involved somewhere on the baby
and just in case, you know, you
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know.
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I mean, they're not going to
throw in the other terrifying
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details of what happens when you
give birth.
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And that's, that's really fun.
The fox show.
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The rest of it.
The more you more details, you
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find about the process of Where
you go?
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Wow, that that is never
happening.
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Also, how the fuck did anybody
decide to do that again?
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The fact that there are this
many people on the planet, when
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you have to do that to get a
person, just this today's
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podcast brought to you by our
are the tip of our hat to every
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woman who's had a chest, thank
you.
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Because oh my God, because no,
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I mean also they're expensive,
they're expensive, they're
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really messy, it looks painful.
But you know what?
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Thank you, ladies.
Good for you and I'm glad that
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glad that others enjoy or
willing to go through it.
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I enjoy is probably not the
right word, I don't know any
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that would enjoy it, but go
through it for what?
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You enjoy it later, perhaps.
Which is still like we might get
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a dog.
Yeah, the dog will know no pain.
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So expensive, mix a lot of
messes still yells at me and
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doesn't always appreciate me.
I mean, I feel like it's a child
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but I just I can put it.
I can put her in a box and Child
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Services doesn't yell at me for
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That's true.
See this is how little happened
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in this episode that we're just
like talking about childbirth.
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Yeah.
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I mean I mean we have glossed
over the fact that Finn and
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Rachel are now a related now in
a row A ship together by the
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standing together.
Yes, I did.
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Ignore that out there.
We know that had gravity and
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deserve.
Sorry, we do need to dedicate
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minutes to Finn and Rachel
because God knows the show.
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Does I like that?
That was the, that was the
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relationship that they felt that
they needed to.
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Before going into season two, I
think it's interesting because
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if you know, you're going into a
new season, wouldn't you want to
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leave more Cliffhangers?
Yeah.
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Like wouldn't you want to leave?
Like maybe that they're like,
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okay yeah, let's you know,
they're just like something
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that's there that shows off
spark is there but not like You
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know what I mean?
It's definitely sounds like
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planning with that.
I do.
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I just and I I'm pretty sure
they know that they got renewed
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for season 2 before they wrote
this ending.
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So I was about to ask if they
thought there was a chance that
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it would only be one season but
no excuse.
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If they knew they had a second
season.
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I thought they I thought they
got my new for the second season
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after they got their back half
of the first season.
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They did.
They got a pretty early.
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I'm just I thought Flags he did.
Like they did 13 episodes and
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then Fox ordered the next or
they get 11 and then walks order
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the next eleven and season two.
Yeah it looks like it happened
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back in January so they had
plenty of time so they did this
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on purpose.
So this was all this is all what
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they wanted to do or reasons.
Consciousness think this is this
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episode marks the final time
that original 12, new directions
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appeared together partly because
Matt decided that I should go
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solo, I'm clearly way better
here.
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Yeah.
Also the the it was Trent that
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was walking back behind you and
Rachel, I was Googling.
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Trent is a goddamn spy and and
I'm here for it.
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I Love Babyface trends.
To go back to the mat thing.
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I really think the end of season
two should have been Matt
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Rutherford winning Nationals by
himself like that shove in the
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plot, twist for season 2, just
like guys, I guess who didn't
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need you bitches and then him
holding the trophy up and like
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what our wedding when like
Rachel went to Rachel and Kurt
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went to New York and trying to
get into nyada and like Matt's
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already there, and like, has
graduated early and is also
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exactly the Should I we should
have just been that doing
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whatever the main characters
were striving to do.
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And we like yeah.
So I had like who is cards boss
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at the Fashion Place in New
York.
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Oh it's Matt, it's about
actually that's unlike that's on
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The Advisory board for nyada and
he's just like, you're not
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getting in, it's why Rachel
didn't get in the first exact?
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Exactly.
That was like, I know these
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people.
This is how interesting this
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finale is.
We just skipped ahead like four
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seasons.
Yeah, because I just really want
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it.
Yeah, I really want in.
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Then the rest of like Seasons
two through six, like
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background, there's a billboard
for like not Rutherford's, new
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album but it's his name is Matt
sort of like Drake of us just
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like or they're like they're
watching you'd like he's on TV
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on SNL like in the in that in
their apartment and they just is
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playing in the background.
I just Little background pieces,
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of Matt like being amazing.
I think we need to get someone
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to edit him into all of the
episodes.
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Somehow.
Dear dear, anybody listening to
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this podcast with a passable
Talent at Final Cut?
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We have a request to actually
have been a really great Easter
384
00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,500
egg if that had happened, but
have been things that would have
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been fucking amazing if you had
done them, but no part 9 part
386
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,900
behind Yeah, Fair.
So I trance is the one that
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walks down and I think I said
Matt says his second out of
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three lines of the series in
this episode.
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So yeah.
How did that actor?
390
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,100
How does that even happen?
Like, was he just bad at his
391
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job?
Because he was there the entire
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00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,500
fucking time?
Like how did he just never get a
393
00:24:13,508 --> 00:24:16,100
line here?
I want this.
394
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,400
I want to think and I could be
wrong.
395
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,600
Like maybe maybe he wasn't good
at acting or singing or dancing,
396
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,900
like maybe he would.
I assume he has to be somewhat.
397
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Good.
Considering like he was
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originally cast.
So like you had to have been
399
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good enough to originally be
cast, but like, I don't see
400
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:41,800
anything happen.
Well, but but there's also has a
401
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:48,100
thing, like, Kurt's the gay one
Quinn's the cheerleader Artis.
402
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,000
You know, he has a disability,
Rachel is the crazy, you know,
403
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,200
overachiever, Finn's the
football player, Everybody had a
404
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,900
thing and maybe the problem was
that they couldn't wrap their
405
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:02,900
head around.
What Matt thing was because
406
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,700
that's how they literally hang
characterization.
407
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:09,300
Yeah.
He's not by you know who, you
408
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,500
know, actually making a
full-fledged character but just
409
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,800
You know.
Hear what?
410
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,600
I'm gonna give her.
That I'm going to give Matt a
411
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,400
thing right now.
He was also on the mathlete
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00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,000
team.
He's like a great mathematician
413
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,300
and his struggle is trying to
decide between studying for the
414
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:34,100
next mathlete, championships or
participating on the Glee Club
415
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,400
and he has to decide, which one
is more important for his future
416
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,400
college applications clearly, he
decided mathletes And he chose
417
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,500
the mathletes.
Yes.
418
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,500
Now he's now he's hanging around
with something like top
419
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,300
mathematicians.
I would have said a name there
420
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,900
but I don't know the names of
top mathematicians.
421
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,800
I'm sorry.
And now he's on The Big Bang
422
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600
Theory.
Are you also on IMDb right now?
423
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:01,600
I am not.
No.
424
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,200
Oh okay.
I see what you're saying.
425
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,700
Sorry.
I'm on because I was like I was
426
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:12,600
feeding my Tamagotchi
Interestingly, the guy who
427
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,400
played Matt Rutherford, his name
is De John Tarleton and he has
428
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,800
on his IMDb page from 2009 to
2015 Glee, that's because
429
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,500
doesn't he know, show up again.
I think he shows up in 2009 and
430
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:34,300
dreams come true or at least it
says that he's got ya credit,
431
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,500
look, he's on the right and like
the finale finale.
432
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:40,400
Yeah.
Yeah, so I think because he
433
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,200
turns up for the finale he gets
it, okay, that I don't know,
434
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,500
I've been bad, he was put in
American Crime, Story in the
435
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,600
2016 version.
Now, he played Sheriff's, deputy
436
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,800
number one, so I don't know what
that says, but like I assume if
437
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,400
you pissed off Murphy, he would
not let you anywhere near one of
438
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,700
his sets.
I don't know, I don't know, I
439
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,700
can almost see the opposite
happening.
440
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,400
Where if you pissed off Murphy,
he's just going to keep giving
441
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,300
you shitty rolls.
You can't rise above.
442
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,800
He wants.
To keep you on the hook a little
443
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,500
bit a little bit.
Yeah, I'm not going to, I'm not
444
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,800
going to say who this also makes
me think of, but I'm just gonna
445
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,200
sit here and drink, my little
sooner.
446
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,600
Once your part of the Murphy
team, you never get to leave.
447
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,200
This is who you are.
Now, this is what you're doing.
448
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,300
You're doing what Ryan Murphy
wants you to do.
449
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,600
Ryan Murphy wants you to play a
sheriff's.
450
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,000
Deputy number one and then
you'll play sheriff's.
451
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,300
Deputy number one and you'll
like it fucking like it.
452
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,900
So yeah.
So Matt Rutherford It's kind of
453
00:27:38,908 --> 00:27:41,800
second line in this episode.
You did?
454
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,900
I noticed it?
We're going to pour one out for
455
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:50,100
Matt Rutherford.
Sorry buddy, he's going on to be
456
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,200
a famous mathematician that also
sings and dances and is on the
457
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,900
board at nyada and is all these
other things got very busy life,
458
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,200
it has.
But, you know, he's Matt
459
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,700
Rutherford, a he's really smart,
he's able to create a Time
460
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,700
Turner, so, you know, no
worries.
461
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,300
Good for you, Matt.
Good for you, man.
462
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,100
So yeah, this is this isn't as
interesting as this, this
463
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:18,800
episode really is.
Oh what note the Shelby best
464
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,600
situation, right?
Like I know we're in a were in a
465
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:25,700
TV show?
Yes.
466
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:27,800
Thank you.
That's what we're doing but like
467
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,700
that was just a little too
goddamn convenient.
468
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,000
But wasn't it?
Like really really you just had
469
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,000
a baby and you just want to have
a baby right now and it's just
470
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,100
that's just bad.
Super easy.
471
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:43,300
I'll I've got a baby you want a
baby guess what?
472
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,700
We're doing and deep down
somewhere.
473
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:54,500
Terry just got really angry.
Oh really actually sad very
474
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,100
Schuster's out there like but
that was my fake baby?
475
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,500
I just now realized that
apparently the date that the
476
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:10,600
episode aired is apparently in
Ugly Cannon according to the
477
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Glee Wicket, Wikia, which shout
out again, to the Glee Wikia.
478
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600
That always always is where we
go too.
479
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Far information deaths.
Birthday is on the day, the
480
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,300
season finale premiered, which
means that Beth Corcoran and I
481
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,600
share a birthday.
Well, that is very exciting.
482
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,600
This is very exciting because
our these are things that
483
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,800
happened and stuff.
Stuff and things to go to sheets
484
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,600
and things to stuff and things.
It's the wider version of sheets
485
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,800
and things stuff, and things has
other stuff.
486
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:51,900
And folks, I have a very random
question that maybe you guys
487
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:56,500
were paying enough attention to
that you can solve at the end of
488
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,700
regionals.
There are three teams standing
489
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,200
on stage, correct, there is
right.
490
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Three teams on stage.
There's vocal adrenaline.
491
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Aural intensity and the new
directions, right?
492
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:17,400
Yeah.
So they said, okay, so trying to
493
00:30:17,408 --> 00:30:20,400
like make this make sense in my
brain before I say it out loud
494
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,200
and then I can't argue
accessible at it.
495
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,300
I know already says a lot
already says this line.
496
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:31,300
It says we didn't even place but
there are three teams how do you
497
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:34,900
there's first second third, how
did they at least got third?
498
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,500
Well, I think The thing if they
announce second place and then
499
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,400
first place.
So I think the idea is you we
500
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,600
didn't even Place.
Meaning, they didn't even give
501
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,600
us like a place.
You like, default does that does
502
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,100
that mean regionals like is only
three teams competing and seems
503
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,000
not right right.
That's what I'm saying.
504
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,700
Is like, if they're standing on
stage, then to me that says the
505
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:02,200
top three teams are the people
on stage and if aural intensity
506
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,200
got second and vocal adrenaline
got first by default new She's
507
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,100
got third unless they're just
standing on stage and the actual
508
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,300
third place winners are like
somewhere else.
509
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,800
You directions favorites like
us.
510
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:22,300
But then it's like why are there
only three teams competing in
511
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:25,700
regionals?
So either there's only three
512
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:30,100
teams competing in regionals
which seems unlikely or new
513
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:32,700
directions went on stage.
Even though there are more than
514
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:35,700
three teams and the other team
didn't show up.
515
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:39,200
Right before they got third
place and you just know that you
516
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,900
didn't Place.
Yeah, or do.
517
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,500
They only because they gave them
a trophy?
518
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:46,800
It's not even that they didn't
get a trophy.
519
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,700
So like you can't say, you
didn't place.
520
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,500
If you got third, even the
allergic.
521
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:53,900
Skoda third place.
Is the secret that new
522
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:58,700
directions can't count well,
because Matt is there one math
523
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,500
Lee's?
It has been dancing too much.
524
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:02,700
Goddamn it, this explains so
much.
525
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200
He leaves.
They do, they can't count
526
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,300
anymore.
They have to try to convince
527
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:10,800
Brittany that she's smart.
You can count and that to go get
528
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,000
that.
But I try to bring it on blame
529
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,200
to try to be like cool.
He's from Dalton I bet he can he
530
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,500
can count.
I bet they have math on the
531
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,700
curriculum.
This explains so much and like
532
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,500
maybe someone watching under
maybe it made more sense to
533
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:27,800
other people.
But I was watching it.
534
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,300
Like what do you mean?
You didn't place there only
535
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,400
three teams being a little
dramatic.
536
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Aren't you?
Guess Jesus anyway, This this
537
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,800
episode, of course was fun.
It was ridiculous.
538
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,600
It was in like fun.
I mean, we watched it.
539
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,300
Everything I expected to happen
happens.
540
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Except I was surprised that they
didn't have them win because I
541
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
did.
I expected TV Hollywood endings.
542
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,700
But yeah, good for that.
What were your, what are your,
543
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:03,000
guys thoughts on the whole for
season 4, season one go right
544
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
now?
Well, I do, are we leaving this?
545
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,300
Episode behind now.
Yeah, okay.
546
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,900
Well first I do want to bring up
the the behind-the-scenes thing
547
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,300
that like in like my you like
cursory Google for this episode
548
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,600
was mentioned and quite a few
articles as like a selling point
549
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,200
and it's that when will and Emma
kissed?
550
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,800
They didn't tell Gemma that that
was going to happen.
551
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,300
That like her reaction was to
being kissed without her like
552
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:35,400
knowledge that was coming and
how like kind of fucked up that
553
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,400
is it's a sack with like a
publicity point for them now,
554
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,800
it's completely fucked up and
definitely not something they
555
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,100
would do to Morrison.
It would not, they would not
556
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:53,900
bring down a kiss on a man.
I read the reasoning from from
557
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,900
Murphy's because he wanted an
Response, which is the most
558
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,400
bullshit reasoning.
Like, you, you're hiring fucking
559
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
actors.
Think they can do their job or
560
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,300
you don't.
They're activists that you let
561
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,800
the actors act off of a script.
Yeah, exactly.
562
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,199
And then it and if your, if your
reasoning for I wanted an
563
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,300
authentic kiss.
Then every other fucking kiss in
564
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,100
the show, better, be unscripted?
Yeah!
565
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:23,000
Work that is dumb are but we'll
get there.
566
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,300
Hold on.
Sorry, I'm taking That to I'm
567
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,500
taking that to lightly, but ya
know is it's bullshit.
568
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:31,900
It's only only ever happens to
women, right?
569
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:35,500
Yeah, I mean, you would at this
is taking it to such an extreme
570
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,800
but, you know, it's like we
wanted an authentic fear
571
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,400
response, so we threw them into
a vat of spiders.
572
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,400
Like, it's not your actors and
just can't just kiss somebody
573
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,699
without their consent.
And I have for a TV show.
574
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,600
I also like that you noted that
it's like that was the selling
575
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,900
point, but it's like that was
Man, that's supposed to be good.
576
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,800
Like that would make me go.
Oh no, no, I don't want to watch
577
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,300
that.
Yeah, I know.
578
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,200
There's like, there's an E
online promotional article that
579
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,100
came out.
June 9th 2010.
580
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,700
It's like five Glee finale
secrets.
581
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,700
And the number one secret is
that will an amicus wasn't
582
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:15,100
scripted.
Like you didn't accidentally
583
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,200
catch the two actors kissing in
the corner and record it.
584
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,500
Like know what you did was force
a woman to be kissed by a man
585
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,400
that she didn't consent to, or
wasn't made aware of as part of
586
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,100
her job.
Job.
587
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:30,200
And like just that there's
there's you know there's got to
588
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,200
be articles and stuff where
Gemma you know people and they
589
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,500
asked her about it and she's got
to talk about it positively.
590
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,900
Yeah.
Because she can't say well that
591
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,300
you really was a dick move to
do.
592
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,300
That was not, I did not like
that because that's not how you
593
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,800
keep working.
That doesn't make for a
594
00:35:48,808 --> 00:35:51,000
comfortable work environment for
anybody.
595
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,000
Nope, just more.
More evidence that.
596
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,400
I mean, I won't blame this one
on.
597
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,300
Go on shoo, I'll just blame this
early at Ryan.
598
00:35:58,300 --> 00:35:59,600
Murphy's feet.
Yes.
599
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,600
But Matthew Morrison wasn't
like, I'm not going to do that.
600
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,700
That's creepy a pair, totally
good.
601
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,800
I'm curious how many, how many
male actors would say?
602
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,000
No, I'm not going to do.
I'm not going to kiss my female
603
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,100
costar without them aware of it.
It.
604
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,500
I mean, today probably a few six
years ago not as many.
605
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:27,300
I'm also I also wonder if like
there definitely are.
606
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,300
I think actors who when they in
the Navy I guess the difference
607
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:32,900
here is they weren't playing a
couple.
608
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,700
They were playing people that
were potentially going to be
609
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,500
here in a couple your half of a
couple acting.
610
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,400
I do think there's like, hey,
you know, what?
611
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Are you, what are you familiar?
What are you comfortable with me
612
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
doing?
To you, and you will like, just
613
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,900
on.
Like, that's not scripted.
614
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:52,700
Let's talk that out.
And I think that's the thing
615
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,900
that could exist where it's
like, hey, you can touch me here
616
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:00,500
and I'm cool without it being in
the script, I don't need a
617
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:02,700
warning for that.
Maybe you get out of this.
618
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,800
It's also question of like, just
because they have kissed on
619
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,500
screen as actors before doesn't.
It's not like a standing, okay?
620
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:16,100
Like just because they filmed
these two actors kissing before,
621
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,800
doesn't mean You just get to
like lay one on anytime you want
622
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400
for the good of the show.
Yeah, I mean it's like the
623
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,200
analogy just because I loaned
you five dollars doesn't mean
624
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,200
you can take five dollars out of
my purse next week, like no, you
625
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
need to ask every time or like I
do.
626
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,900
I didn't all five dollar
transactions, like any time you
627
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:43,300
want Murphy, which does kind of
give the already kind of
628
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,600
lackluster finale, kind of a
nun, additional Pale.
629
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:53,800
But moving to the rest of the
lackluster or maybe luster
630
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,900
season.
I don't know.
631
00:37:54,900 --> 00:38:00,000
What do you guys think?
Yeah, so like I know a lot of
632
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,900
people really, really love
season 1 and I don't, but that's
633
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:11,400
in comparison to season 2.
So it's kind of hard to talk
634
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,800
about season one without it
being a comparison.
635
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Like, we talked about this
before, where it's hard to City.
636
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,200
We can't watch these episodes in
a vacuum, even though it's been
637
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,300
six years since we've seen them.
Yeah, we still have like we have
638
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:26,200
like the memory in the emotional
memory of what happens later,
639
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:33,000
but I think that this season
would have been a lot better if
640
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,700
it had been written to only 13
episodes or maybe even 20
641
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:40,800
episodes.
Well notice that's only two down
642
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,800
maybe like yeah let's say 13
episodes like if they had
643
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,600
condensed It, which is why
miniseries and limited series
644
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,200
works so well, is you the
streamlining of the writing?
645
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,600
You get rid of all like the
wheat and the chaff, like, you
646
00:38:55,607 --> 00:38:58,400
just get rid of the extraneous
bullshit, that takes away from
647
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,600
the more interesting stuff.
And I think if Glee had only
648
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,200
been written to be 13 episodes
per season, I think there's a
649
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,400
lot of the stuff that we all end
up hating that would have been
650
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,100
taken out just by the nature of
the streamlined writing.
651
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,700
I really want to believe that
but part of the opposite
652
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,900
shoulder is like, but would Ryan
Murphy have value stuff.
653
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:28,800
Like enough to keep, or would it
have been 13 episodes of no
654
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,400
characters besides thin?
Rachel shoe and Emma?
655
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,300
Yes, that is.
I mean logically.
656
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,200
Yes, I do generally agree,
though.
657
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
I do think that the 13-episode
Brian would have made a better
658
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,500
show.
I sort of feel that way about
659
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,500
most shows.
So yeah, I agree with you but
660
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,600
like I think he liked the most
television shows should be
661
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,300
between 13 and 15 episodes
because.
662
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,900
Yeah, because otherwise you do
It's like that in the week.
663
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,900
Yeah, you get in the weeds, you
spin off in the nonsense and I
664
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:05,100
but you're right that what we
would have probably forgotten is
665
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,500
just the stuff we didn't
necessarily want.
666
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,400
Like, then Mercedes wouldn't
have had a single storyline and
667
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Quinn and Santana.
Like everyone else would have
668
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,100
just been left in the dust even
more.
669
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,400
And that's not, that's not
better.
670
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:26,700
No, I was pulling out.
Reviews for the season, he'll
671
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:30,000
always curious to see what
reviewer said at the time
672
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,500
really.
It's a lot easier to find that
673
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:36,600
than it is to find like fan.
Thought at the time, that that
674
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,700
is a little bit more difficult.
But as always, would love to
675
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,000
hear what you guys thought of
the Season, as a whole when you
676
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,800
watched it, especially if you,
if, you know, where your
677
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,500
thoughts were, letting you live
blog, that that'd be great, but
678
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:56,100
on the whole Whole like it had a
78 Metacritic score and an 88
679
00:40:56,100 --> 00:41:00,600
percent on Rotten Tomatoes
that's based on reviews, not on
680
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,500
the, I'm not audience reviews.
So I mean on the on the whole
681
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,700
it's all very positive.
I do like this One reviewer from
682
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,300
The New York Times that called
the show blissfully unaware
683
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:15,800
gional fucking name in a witty
imaginative way.
684
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,500
And I was like way too.
Like totally try to like hide
685
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:22,100
that Zinger.
Holy shit, that's that was
686
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:27,600
great.
There was another piece the okay
687
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,300
variety the guy from variety was
critical of the early episodes
688
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:34,900
because he said hi the acting in
the characterization were way
689
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,800
off and that the show squandered
a bunch of talent and was uneven
690
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:46,000
intone and I'm like, yeah, yeah
that's literally, that's
691
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
literally how I feel.
He did also add the TV would be
692
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:56,700
poorer without the show but I
agree that all of the all of the
693
00:41:56,707 --> 00:41:59,900
things he highlighted I'm like I
know those are problems also
694
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:05,300
like this person that had that
was declared anti-christian by
695
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:09,500
youth Minister and comment all
10 commandments are violated
696
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:11,500
during the season who's
murdered?
697
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,900
Okay, so someone's neighbors,
coveted, I got that.
698
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:22,800
Adultery.
I honestly I don't know all the
699
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,300
10 Commandments but one of them
is murder and who who who was
700
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:31,900
murdered is it your shit quality
of writing in the television
701
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,300
landscape?
Yes.
702
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,800
But now is her secret murder
that we don't remember.
703
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:46,600
Also there's one is like you can
have no Gods before me.
704
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:53,400
So what other gods are there?
Sue worshipping her trophies.
705
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,800
Okay.
Yeah.
706
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:56,500
Are you googling Ten
Commandments?
707
00:42:56,500 --> 00:43:02,400
Because I did, I'm not trying to
remember my childhood stealing.
708
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,300
Okay, murdering stealing a dull
touring more.
709
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,700
Something about your honor, your
mom and dad on our you're gone,
710
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:12,700
keep holy the Sabbath day, but
we don't actually know what they
711
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:14,200
do on Sundays.
So we don't know that.
712
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,700
That's not true.
Oh, did you Google or you know,
713
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:19,800
I Googled, I don't know this
shit.
714
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,700
That's all it is.
All the ones I remember.
715
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:30,500
So, yeah, I'm just, I'm just
really concerned about this
716
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:35,200
killing that is, the prize.
There was a murder in season one
717
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,600
and we so we got it.
We didn't send hits, maybe
718
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:44,900
doesn't Finn hit.
That guy with his car when he's
719
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,400
thinking about.
We know that he died.
720
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,800
We do.
Should we just leave now?
721
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,600
He died.
I guess we have to assume.
722
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:57,800
Oh shit.
Wait, do we do we know that Matt
723
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,300
Rutherford wasn't supposed to
have a more untimely end?
724
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
What if Matt Rutherford was
really like a vision sort of
725
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,800
like Harvey to, we know he
wasn't actually with he was
726
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,600
alive or not, we don't know
anything anymore.
727
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:17,700
This is very confusing for me.
We have now turned our podcast
728
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:23,600
into my favorite River.
I wish we are trying to figure
729
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,700
out which murder happened in
season 1 of Glee who drew you
730
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:34,000
have any tips or the invite
please let us know hilarious.
731
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,500
Yeah.
So I think we would all agree
732
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:42,800
this season was kind of I would
agree with you that season 2 or
733
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:47,600
it's probably my favorite and
I'm torn between two and three
734
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,900
but this this one isn't my
favorite like what I like about
735
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:55,900
the show, isn't there yet?
And I don't mean Blaine play.
736
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,700
Do you mean clean?
Not entirely but that I'm a
737
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:02,200
little bit.
It's a little bit but then it's
738
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,300
also my favorite care.
Like I love Kurt and we only get
739
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:09,800
him a little bit and we get some
of the worst version of Kurt and
740
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,200
season was so like when I say
clang kind of I mean because
741
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,300
he's Of that.
But like I enjoy his character
742
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:24,500
and I don't get to see it.
It's very it's only every so
743
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:27,800
often and as you said it can be
it can be a little snarky.
744
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,300
Yeah.
It's a bit of the shit.
745
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,000
I mean I I'm gonna stick with
snarky but okay.
746
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:40,300
Yeah so it's a smile that you
are like Kurt stand number one
747
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:44,300
because we had that is my role
on this podcast.
748
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:47,500
To defend Kurt at all costs to
defend credit.
749
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,600
Most costs.
The diversity is good.
750
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,700
Yeah, I do not go, there are
times, he is really snarky and
751
00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:01,600
does deserve to be taken down a
peg but I mean son when
752
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Sebastian comes along I'm sorry.
You're only allowed to be,
753
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,200
you're only allowed to stand one
character at a time.
754
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,100
Oh, that's Sebastian.
So you say this is going to be
755
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:14,700
difficult to be like I'm sorry.
You can't have both.
756
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,900
Sebastian, those are the girls.
Okay, but okay, now, we can't
757
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,800
get into this because we haven't
even met these characters yet in
758
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,500
the timeline of this podcast.
And you are just trying to give
759
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:30,300
yourself more time, fine.
Oh, well then, I guess that kind
760
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:34,600
of rolls easily into so season 2
that's coming up.
761
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,300
It is, what are we looking
forward to looking forward to
762
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:44,400
more Rachel aren't we all know?
I mean, I'm looking forward to
763
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,300
the thing.
That I'm looking forward to
764
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:51,100
because completely a mystery.
Well, yeah, we are really
765
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,500
excited.
We get to have Blaine, which I
766
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:58,600
know is, I mean, considering he
ends up going from a walk-on
767
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,600
role to Leading half of the Glee
Club and staying until the end
768
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,900
of season 6.
It's a pretty decently sized,
769
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,500
you know, decently sized role or
excited to get to see.
770
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,800
Now, the other main one of the
other main characters show up
771
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,000
And, you know, it's the version
of him that I liked the most
772
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,400
tooth because frankly, later
versions of Blaine, I don't care
773
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400
for.
So it's like it speak.
774
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:31,700
Plain for me, is season two
because they're, we can't talk
775
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:33,400
about the sex.
We haven't watch these episodes
776
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,300
but it's, you know, and for the
work and you don't even get to
777
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,900
start talking about it.
As soon as we hit season two,
778
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:59,900
you know, the weight like a boy.
I love dolphins in.
779
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:02,800
They should have kept Kurt
there.
780
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,300
I still can't understand
reasons.
781
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:06,800
But anyway, so I'm looking for
all going.
782
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,900
All that are both looking for
the ending.
783
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,400
We're going to have a giving me
the Nostalgia for wanting to
784
00:48:13,408 --> 00:48:16,200
dive back into all of The Dalton
are effect.
785
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:19,800
Yeah.
If I just have plain Fick you
786
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,400
can send me or recommend to me
or anything.
787
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,700
I need it.
Thank you.
788
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000
I think we're going to have more
to talk about when it comes to
789
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,400
the fandom, right?
Because by season 2, there's
790
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,500
some history.
That's true.
791
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:43,400
And I think it'll be easier to
go back in blogs and find stupid
792
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,800
posts and that like there's some
I have hate the word iconic but
793
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,600
there's some tumblr post that
still go around from season to
794
00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:52,300
talk.
I mean while you eat.
795
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:57,300
Yes yes exactly.
And that's impressive for a show
796
00:48:57,300 --> 00:48:59,800
that was objectively not
amazing.
797
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,500
And you know so I'm kind of
excited to get into some of
798
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,500
those and we can figure out if
we're going to have special.
799
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:11,000
It's where we talk about bands
mm on its own because I you
800
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,300
know, we talked about doing a
shipping episode.
801
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,800
I definitely think things that
taught them.
802
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,600
That is not of your cat.
It is actually a no zarqa a
803
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,200
raspberry lime sparkling water
can.
804
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:27,900
Wow.
All right, I'm a little extra.
805
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,600
I said someone's fancy.
Oh, these are the anthem for the
806
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400
cheap.
Local versions that are of
807
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,800
Lacroix.
Okay.
808
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,000
Got it.
Yeah, so yeah, but you know
809
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,500
there's I think there will be
the fandom stuff is either going
810
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:49,600
to be aggravating or fun or both
at the same time because, you
811
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:55,500
know, it really would like to do
once we once we kind of get, I
812
00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:00,700
think, once we once claim comes
on, I would like to do a
813
00:50:00,707 --> 00:50:05,800
shipping conversation.
Not just because let me talk
814
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:13,000
about clean as much as possible
guys, but The pollution of and
815
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,000
and I'm saying this just using
let's say like the king cream as
816
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,400
like your source of and the
Ugly, huh?
817
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,800
Oh the Kink Mimi.
I know I know either.
818
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400
Would you throw back here?
But just like using that as like
819
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:34,000
your Source material, but seeing
how Kurtz characterization as
820
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,900
how fans saw him and how like
people were pairing him with
821
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:41,700
like these people and these,
Physical and then blinken's.
822
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,300
And and then you see how that
characterization of that
823
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:48,400
relationship goes and changes.
And it's just it's very
824
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,600
interesting.
I think, just from, you know,
825
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:57,200
occurred fan, we go like cool,
we went from like thin and Puck
826
00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:59,900
and then I think Sam and then
Blaine.
827
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,000
So just kind of like the
evolution of who of who Kurt
828
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,200
should be with and I read.
And that's an interesting, an
829
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,600
interesting conversation have
And then being able to bring in
830
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,700
other people, I guess as well.
Whenever I'm on other ships.
831
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,300
Fine, bridging.
So these are all things I'm.
832
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:19,800
I also some of my favorite songs
during season two.
833
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,900
I think they start to hit their
stride with some of their
834
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,800
craziness without it being a
know.
835
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:28,800
I like sensitive.
So I'm excited.
836
00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:30,100
Yeah.
No, I'm excited.
837
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,800
Mandy, what about yourself?
You not have to be excited.
838
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,900
If you don't want to be, I am
proud to be excited.
839
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:40,700
God damn it.
I feel like the I don't quite
840
00:51:40,700 --> 00:51:44,800
have the same like I don't want
to thank don't like Dalton like
841
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,200
as get the fuck exactly.
I can't.
842
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,800
I don't like don't leave.
I won't all opinions.
843
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,300
Wow.
So this podcast is in really
844
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:55,700
fun.
It's so bad that we have to end
845
00:51:55,700 --> 00:52:00,500
it now but hey I don't think I
quite have the same attachment
846
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:07,700
to Dalton that.
That said I'm excited for
847
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,300
excited as the wrong word.
We also get a Sam Evans is a
848
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:16,100
character and there's so much
salt potential there that I'm
849
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:21,200
excited.
I feel like that I'm doing with
850
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,400
Sam versus what they did and
half plane came in instead of
851
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,800
that.
Like all of that gets very
852
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:31,900
fascinating to talk about and
then doctor yes.
853
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,200
And also experience because I
feel like you two are going to
854
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,200
bring it as well.
Yes, yes.
855
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,500
So I think I'm excited for all
of the various discussions in
856
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:46,400
season 2, which kind of goes
back to the fact that there's a
857
00:52:46,408 --> 00:52:48,700
bit of history.
Now, there's like, establish
858
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:51,200
Dynamics and they try to bring
new people.
859
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:53,400
That's it works and sometimes it
doesn't.
860
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,900
Yes, it's gonna be good.
It's is season to also, when we
861
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:02,300
get sugar or is she season 3?
I like she's 13.
862
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:06,100
Yeah, I couldn't remember.
But okay.
863
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:09,000
So I'll have to wait longer to
be able to talk about being
864
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,500
excited for her.
We also do get more like more
865
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:16,900
Santana, which I love her
singing, so I hear for getting
866
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,700
your more of her.
So yeah, there's there's a lot
867
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:24,400
that we get to, we get to enjoy,
we do.
868
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,700
Let's see any, any other
obviously, if we keep going
869
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:32,700
we're just gonna end up talking
about the next episode.
870
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:33,900
So we should probably get
started.
871
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:37,100
Okay.
Well then here's a question.
872
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:39,500
What was your favorite episode?
From season one.
873
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:45,600
I feel like this is a pop quiz.
I didn't study 40 the name.
874
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,900
I can't remember any episodes
now.
875
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,900
Going to run through them.
No, no.
876
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,400
I'm gonna say the curtain Burt
stuff, but it's hard for me to
877
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,500
like, pick out one specific
episodes of that.
878
00:54:02,500 --> 00:54:05,100
Feel like I won't, you take all
the curtain Burt things and pull
879
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,700
them out and make them an
episode fair enough.
880
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,600
Gonna say the pilot and the
pilot was pretty good.
881
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:18,500
Yeah, let's say the pilots.
Okay.
882
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:23,200
And not because I can't remember
the other episodes of course
883
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,500
not.
Nope.
884
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,500
So what?
I chose chose that for a goddamn
885
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:32,600
reason.
Okay.
886
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,200
Well here is maybe an easier.
What was your favorite song?
887
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,500
That's not easier.
That's definitely not easier.
888
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,300
What's your song, if you
remember?
889
00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:46,200
You say, what the song you can
remember?
890
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,200
And literally the only thing in
my head is Don't Stop.
891
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:55,400
Believin was iconic.
The music version of Emily's,
892
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:03,700
answer of pilot the salt.
I mean, my okay - roses turn you
893
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:11,700
say that.
Yeah, mines resistor have an
894
00:55:11,707 --> 00:55:14,700
answer for myself, Teenage
Dream.
895
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,200
The precursor I can think of my
like, favorite songs from Glee
896
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,700
but none of them happened to be
in the first season except maybe
897
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:23,700
roses turn, but I'm just
concentrating.
898
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,100
Being openly safer.
If I say that I was like, I was
899
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,700
in a student's, a copy away.
All right, I'm gonna go, I'm
900
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:32,900
gonna go I'm gonna steal her
answer then roses turn.
901
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,000
How about you meth you know?
I said like I didn't have I
902
00:55:36,008 --> 00:55:39,400
didn't really have one so like I
don't like I asked this question
903
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,100
fully aware.
I did not, it was a viable
904
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:46,400
answer it.
I see, I see how it is.
905
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:52,300
I have now, I ask the question,
what I'm an answer to say?
906
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:57,100
I want all of the Kurt.
You know Kurt pieces and into an
907
00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:59,400
episode of place just everything
of him.
908
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,500
I that's my favorite episode.
This is anything with Kurtz.
909
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:09,000
I'll allow it.
And I did there's something to
910
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,400
be said for, they are their
Journey song at the end.
911
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,100
Don't sobbing ended there.
Don't Stop Believing.
912
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:22,200
So I think, because that song
became so intrinsically tied and
913
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,700
iconic that it just any time I
hear it, especially the way they
914
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:33,100
sing it with the acapella.
Yeah, and it gives me goosebumps
915
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:35,600
and in a way that I'm, like, I
get kind of angry that I get
916
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,100
goosebumps.
God damn it.
917
00:56:38,107 --> 00:56:40,300
This sucks.
This fucking show is not allowed
918
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:45,100
to affect me like this.
I have said it aloud and then it
919
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:48,000
still happens anyway.
So that'll be my, that'll be my
920
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,100
answer.
All right, all right, well I
921
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,600
don't have, I don't have any
other questions other than do we
922
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,300
do we want to rate the season on
a Kevin scale, or do we want to
923
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,400
just say a bead, like as a
whole?
924
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,500
The season was like, like one,
Kevin, what's Brianna Cavanaugh?
925
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,500
You know, all together.
Yeah, like all together one.
926
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:11,700
Kevin.
I mean, if we wanted to be, you
927
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:14,100
know, scientific about it.
We could probably add them up
928
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,300
and divide but that takes math.
And Matt Rutherford is not here
929
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:19,600
to do it for us and we don't
have that rather ver cozy.
930
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:22,800
Bitch went out and they became
his best self, so we got
931
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,300
nothing.
All right.
932
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:28,600
Well, then in that case, then I
think we've given a pretty
933
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,400
thorough rundown of everything
that everything that we that we
934
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,800
liked that we didn't like that,
we Are excited for and probably
935
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,800
more of that than we needed to
clearly.
936
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,500
We could we could talk about
that for days.
937
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:48,200
Oh yeah.
We will we will endeavor to keep
938
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,200
our podcasts at length.
This is next next season and not
939
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:59,200
to two hours.
The one podcast her Blaine scene
940
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,600
right, it's to podcasts for
episode.
941
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,300
The first one is everything
else.
942
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:07,000
Another one?
Is the blank.
943
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,500
Guess I honestly don't see a
problem with this.
944
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,900
I mean, technically neither do.
I All right.
945
00:58:15,900 --> 00:58:20,700
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946
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